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Ronin13
12-10-2012, 12:46
Didn't see this being talked about...

Colorado students accused of sickening class with pot-laced browniesBOULDER, Colo (Reuters) - Two University of Colorado at Boulder students are accused of bringing marijuana-laced brownies to a college class, sickening their unsuspecting professor and five classmates, police said on Sunday.
Thomas Cunningham, 21, and Mary Essa, 19, were arrested Saturday on suspicion of second-degree assault, fraudulently inducing the consumption of a controlled substance and conspiracy charges, university police spokesman Ryan Huff said.
Huff said three of those who ate the brownies were hospitalized, suffering from the effects of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active property in marijuana.
"If someone views this as a prank, it's no laughing matter," Huff told Reuters. "These (charges) are all felonies which carry potential prison time."
According to Huff, police were summoned to a classroom building Friday morning on a report that a female professor was complaining of dizziness and was drifting in and out of consciousness. The instructor, who was not identified, was transported to a hospital.
Later Friday, the mother of a student in the class notified police that her daughter also was hospitalized after suffering "an anxiety attack."
The family of a third student also notified police that their daughter felt like she was going to black out after attending the class, and that they took her to a hospital.
All three have since been released from the hospital.

Finish reading here: http://news.yahoo.com/colorado-students-accused-sickening-class-pot-laced-brownies-010104636.html

Thoughts? Personally, I'd be filing charges too and hope these morally deficient, social r-tards get used as an example... for those that don't know, pot brownies pack a much bigger punch than simply smoking it (in my youth...) This is pretty messed up stuff and I hope they do serve some hard time. [Mad]

SuperiorDG
12-10-2012, 12:55
CU students that don't know they are stoned. Strange.[pick-me]

BPTactical
12-10-2012, 12:57
Charges due?
Yes
I do see a humerous side to it however, for some twisted reason the scene from "Up in Smoke" where the cops get baked comes to mind....."Your stoned man"

Whoever ressurects "Twinkies" is gonna make bank in CO....

HBARleatherneck
12-10-2012, 12:58
delete

merl
12-10-2012, 12:59
Thoughts? Personally, I'd be filing charges too and hope these morally deficient, social r-tards get used as an example... for those that don't know, pot brownies pack a much bigger punch than simply smoking it (in my youth...) This is pretty messed up stuff and I hope they do serve some hard time. [Mad]
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charges, fines, every last cent of the medical bills, absolutely. hard time over a prank (that involved a scary plant), excessive.
yes it was a dumb joke that may well get them expelled. That in itself would knock some reality into kids pretty fast. I don't think we need to make more lifelong felons out of stupid kids. This one is damn close to the line though, could have injured someone.

ChunkyMonkey
12-10-2012, 13:00
Yeah... I've done the same.

SA Friday
12-10-2012, 13:10
I would be livid. Every student in my majors program know we all have to be able to pass a background, pee test, and poly for employment. We are future crime scene investigators and LE lab analysts. Now, every one of those kids will have to deal with explaining this during any possible future employment interview/process involving backgrounds, security clearances, etc. Yes, it's explainable, but damn. It's hard enough to get hired as it is. Having to explain something like this over and over again in interviews very well may impact future employment.

SuperiorDG
12-10-2012, 13:12
I would be livid. Every student in my majors program know we all have to be able to pass a background, pee test, and poly for employment. We are future crime scene investigators and LE lab analysts. Now, every one of those kids will have to deal with explaining this during any possible future employment interview/process involving backgrounds, security clearances, etc. Yes, it's explainable, but damn. It's hard enough to get hired as it is. Having to explain something like this over and over again in interviews very well may impact future employment.

Just get copies of the news story and take it with you.

Pancho Villa
12-10-2012, 13:20
Hilarious.

People need to chill. Most of all employers who care if you accidentally did pot at some point in time.

Edit: I think they should still be punished, its not gentlemanly to drug someone without their knowledge, but its an overall harmless prank and should be treated as such.

SAnd
12-10-2012, 14:29
They definitely should have a felony conviction so they have it on their permanent record. I don't care if they do jail or prison time as long as there is a felony conviction on their record. It is not a harmless prank. It is deliberate physically invasive assault on another person.

PugnacAutMortem
12-10-2012, 15:25
Hilarious.

People need to chill. Most of all employers who care if you accidentally did pot at some point in time.

Edit: I think they should still be punished, its not gentlemanly to drug someone without their knowledge, but its an overall harmless prank and should be treated as such.

Gentlemanly? That is an extremely interesting word selection. Drugging someone without their knowledge is not a matter of being gentlemanly. I am 100% in favor of the legalization of marijuana, but I choose not to participate in using it. That being said, if I unknowingly ingested some because of a "harmless" prank...I would shit two bricks instead of one. What if I worked in a job where I was randomly drug tested and failed because of this "harmless" prank? The "harmless" prank now has taken food out my son's mouth. What if I was pulled over and found to be intoxicated? Now I have a criminal record because of this "harmless" prank. Still think it's "hilarious"?

I'm all for allowing people to make their own choices. But the second you start screwing with my choices, it's anything but comedic.

Ronin13
12-10-2012, 16:03
Hilarious.

People need to chill. Most of all employers who care if you accidentally did pot at some point in time.

Edit: I think they should still be punished, its not gentlemanly to drug someone without their knowledge, but its an overall harmless prank and should be treated as such.
I'm with Pugnac on this- it's not a harmless prank, none of the employers I ever worked for or applied to (USG and JCSO included) have ever looked at "accidently smoking pot" as something to look the other way on. If you think this is funny you got a sick twisted outlook on the world. Plus, it goes to show not many know the difference between smoking and ingesting THC. Smoking it is one thing, but ingesting it is a much more potent high that can actually negatively affect people. Further, I know some folks who are allergic to cannabis (yes, the plant), had this happened to them, there is a chance they could have died. Harmless? I think not, actually far from it. Think about if they had laced the brownies with LSD? Or what if someone did die from this? Drug my food without my knowledge or permission, yeah, I'm coming after you with the full force of the US Legal system, as messed up as it is, you probably won't be the one with the last laugh.

TFOGGER
12-10-2012, 16:38
So here's a totally unrelated but somewhat relevant hypothetical: What about a contact high from a concert? I went to a Kiss concert at McNichols Arena back in the day, and we were in the upper deck. Needless to say, I got baked just sitting there. I hadn't actively smoked dope since before I graduated high school several years prior. Had I been tested, how would I have explained that to my employer? Never was an issue because my employer at the time flat didn't care unless you were driving for the company.

Rucker61
12-10-2012, 16:39
I'm with you guys, not a harmless prank, criminal prosecution is in order, but what kind of yay-hoo accepts a brownie from a CU student?

PugnacAutMortem
12-10-2012, 16:41
So here's a totally unrelated but somewhat relevant hypothetical: What about a contact high from a concert? I went to a Kiss concert at McNichols Arena back in the day, and we were in the upper deck. Needless to say, I got baked just sitting there. I hadn't actively smoked dope since before I graduated high school several years prior. Had I been tested, how would I have explained that to my employer? Never was an issue because my employer at the time flat didn't care unless you were driving for the company.

I think that's a risk you accept taking when you go to an event like that. It's still against your will, but you're not unknowingly intaking something.

TFOGGER
12-10-2012, 16:44
I'm with you guys, not a harmless prank, criminal prosecution is in order, but what kind of yay-hoo accepts a brownie from a CU student?[ROFL1]

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/images/smilies/RoorRip.gif

Mazin
12-10-2012, 16:49
So here's a totally unrelated but somewhat relevant hypothetical: What about a contact high from a concert? I went to a Kiss concert at McNichols Arena back in the day, and we were in the upper deck. Needless to say, I got baked just sitting there. I hadn't actively smoked dope since before I graduated high school several years prior. Had I been tested, how would I have explained that to my employer? Never was an issue because my employer at the time flat didn't care unless you were driving for the company.

Now see if it was a Metallica concert at Mc Nichols arena I would owe you an apology. (96 sophomore in hs).

I agree it was assault.

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ChadAmberg
12-10-2012, 17:05
Here's one of the morons involved...
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/thomas%20cunningham%20barack%20obama.jpg

The one on the right.

TFOGGER
12-10-2012, 17:23
As a side note, I may have just gotten a contact high from just talking to one of my customers...my showroom STILL smells like weed. Holy skunk, Batman! [ROFL1]

Ashton
12-10-2012, 18:08
I think that's a risk you accept taking when you go to an event like that. It's still against your will, but you're not unknowingly intaking something.

I think that's a risk you take living in boulder where they voted 2:1 to legalize it.

SideShow Bob
12-10-2012, 18:23
Hilarious.

People need to chill. Most of all employers who care if you accidentally did pot at some point in time.

Edit: I think they should still be punished, its not gentlemanly to drug someone without their knowledge, but its an overall harmless prank and should be treated as such.

They should be made examples of ! Punished to the full extent of the law !
If that were to happen to. A CDL holder and he or she got pulled for a random, they would lose their jobs and license. There would be no explaining or extenuating circumstances, you are fired end of story.
Completely ruin someone's livelihood and life, real funny, Ha Ha. Harmless prank my ass.
To He'll with you....[goFyourself]

Aloha_Shooter
12-10-2012, 18:25
Hilarious. People need to chill. Most of all employers who care if you accidentally did pot at some point in time. Edit: I think they should still be punished, its not gentlemanly to drug someone without their knowledge, but its an overall harmless prank and should be treated as such. It is more than "not gentlemanly" to drug someone without their knowledge. It is hardly harmless if people got physically sick and this created a condition of impairment without the victims' knowledge or consent. It's a felony and should be treated as such -- to fix your grotesque misstatement.

TFOGGER
12-10-2012, 18:26
Sooo...hypothetically speaking, is this any different than spiking the punch at a high school dance? if so, why? I'm betting a significant number of the older members of this forum either did that or attempted to do that at one point...

Aloha_Shooter
12-10-2012, 18:35
I don't see a whole lot of difference but I had (and still have) the same objections to spiking the punch. I'd guess I'm one of the older members on this forum and I not only didn't do or attempt that, I verbally said I thought it was wrong when talking with someone about "Grease". Then again, I preferred old Sandra Dee with straight hair in sweater and skirt to new Sandra Dee in permed hair and skintight leather.

merl
12-10-2012, 18:36
Sooo...hypothetically speaking, is this any different than spiking the punch at a high school dance? if so, why? I'm betting a significant number of the older members of this forum either did that or attempted to do that at one point...
same thing.. ex-lax cookies anyone?

Was thinking on the ride home about a report last month.
Someone strung a single strand of barbed wire across a bike path just after a curve at 18". perfect height for an endo. They had a much higher chance of injuring someone, were trying to. And if caught would get off pretty light so long as nobody was badly injured.

Kids got caught in a prank. punish em, absolutely, but hard time is beyond excessive.

Aloha_Shooter
12-10-2012, 18:57
Kids got caught in a prank. punish em, absolutely, but hard time is beyond excessive.

Not to hijack the thread but why are they called "kids" who "got caught in a prank" when they've given classmates brownies laced with a mind-altering substance but we're supposed to consider them adults when it comes to voting? I keep telling my Scouts that 100 years ago they would have been expected to help with the household income (if not been the sole breadwinner) and behave like adults at age 16. The Pony Express riders were younger than these idiots so while I wouldn't bother with hard time, I'd definitely prosecute and put them on a long probationary period along with heavy community service and fines.

clublights
12-10-2012, 19:24
What if it had been roofies?
Even without the rape component is that ok ?

I tend to say no no it is not.

Is it more ok since it's "just weed" ?

Where is the line then ?
LSD, MDMA, Meth, Mushrooms, Herion, Would any of those just be " ok" ?

merl
12-10-2012, 22:11
Not to hijack the thread but why are they called "kids" who "got caught in a prank" when they've given classmates brownies laced with a mind-altering substance but we're supposed to consider them adults when it comes to voting? I keep telling my Scouts that 100 years ago they would have been expected to help with the household income (if not been the sole breadwinner) and behave like adults at age 16. The Pony Express riders were younger than these idiots so while I wouldn't bother with hard time, I'd definitely prosecute and put them on a long probationary period along with heavy community service and fines.

I say kids because of their age and actions. they are adults though.

TFOGGER
12-10-2012, 22:14
I'm thinking that if the amount of dope involved would not constitute a felony, than neither should this. Charge 'em with a misdemeanor, sentence them to a fine, probation, and community service, and move on.

wreave
12-10-2012, 22:23
I'm all for allowing people to make their own choices. But the second you start screwing with my choices, it's anything but comedic.

This sums it up perfectly. I've never used drugs in my life, and though I'm completely in favor of appropriately-regulated legalization of marijuana, this would be a serious invasion of my body and I would expect it to be treated as such.

Also, I *love* brownies. If someone brought them to work or class, I'd probably have three if there were enough to go around. Or four. Okay, not more than six. That's on me if they're normal brownies and I don't like the looks of the scale the next day, but if they were pot-laced? Boy would I be having a bad day.

Rucker61
12-10-2012, 22:27
What if it had been roofies?
Even without the rape component is that ok ?

I tend to say no no it is not.

Is it more ok since it's "just weed" ?

Where is the line then ?
LSD, MDMA, Meth, Mushrooms, Herion, Would any of those just be " ok" ?

No, yes, no, yes, no.

Ashton
12-10-2012, 22:28
This sums it up perfectly. I've never used drugs in my life, and though I'm completely in favor of appropriately-regulated legalization of marijuana, this would be a serious invasion of my body and I would expect it to be treated as such.

Also, I *love* brownies. If someone brought them to work or class, I'd probably have three if there were enough to go around. Or four. Okay, not more than six. That's on me if they're normal brownies and I don't like the looks of the scale the next day, but if they were pot-laced? Boy would I be having a bad day.

Maybe you should try it. You might like it. But I'm betting after six pot brownies you'd hate yourself. Stick with one. Not that I'd know anything about that. Not to mention you wouldn't be able to throw them up because pot often inhibits that "portion" that makes you want to throw up. Which is why a lot of cancer patients like it? Pot isn't bad IMHO.

JM Ver. 2.0
12-10-2012, 22:50
Hilarious.

People need to chill. Most of all employers who care if you accidentally did pot at some point in time.

Edit: I think they should still be punished, its not gentlemanly to drug someone without their knowledge, but its an overall harmless prank and should be treated as such.

You're an idiot.

jackthewall81
12-11-2012, 01:11
Hilarious.

People need to chill. Most of all employers who care if you accidentally did pot at some point in time.

Edit: I think they should still be punished, its not gentlemanly to drug someone without their knowledge, but its an overall harmless prank and should be treated as such.
Agreed. I am surprised students here as well as the professor didn't know what to expect.

Fmedges
12-11-2012, 01:15
You're an idiot.

Agreed. They normally hand out felonies for things that are "no big deal"

buffalobo
12-11-2012, 07:03
Don't know if it should be felony, but definitely would set up circumstance to repay the "favor" with an anonymous ass beating. Expulsion from school should be immediate.

Aloha_Shooter
12-11-2012, 10:41
No, yes, no, yes, no.

When you get done with your Empress Nympho imitation ...

Ronin13
12-11-2012, 11:00
Sooo...hypothetically speaking, is this any different than spiking the punch at a high school dance? if so, why? I'm betting a significant number of the older members of this forum either did that or attempted to do that at one point...
Kind of a difference there... alcohol is metabolized and out of the system much more swiftly than THC. Also, most jobs don't test for the presence of alcohol, but do for the presence of THC. Furthermore, drugging someone is quite a bit different to spiking the punch. As I stated earlier, I know people who are allergic to cannabis, I have heard of, but know of no one who is allergic to alcohol... Anaphilaxys (sp?) is a very serious thing, BTDT. Aside from that, again, like I said earlier, ingested THC packs a more potent punch than smoked, and no surprise one girl went to the ER with an anxiety attack. Some know on here, I'm waiting to get on a Sheriff's Dept., had this happened to me my chances would be shot to hell... that's messing with people's livelihood, not just a "harmless" prank. Both are wrong, but there isn't much of a comparison between lacing food with pot and spiking the punch in terms of long term. Of course spiking the punch could lead to underage intoxication, DUI, etc. So there is the immediate aftermath in both cases, but pot has more long term issues.

Ronin13
12-11-2012, 11:03
No, yes, no, yes, no.
If I read that right you said:
"What if it had been roofies?" No
"Even without the rape component is that ok?" yes
"Is it more ok since it's 'just weed'?" no
"Where is the line then?" yes
"LSD, MDMA, Meth, Mushrooms, Heroin, Would any of those just be 'ok'?" no

So roofies are ok?

clublights
12-11-2012, 14:59
If I read that right you said:
"What if it had been roofies?" No
"Even without the rape component is that ok?" yes
"Is it more ok since it's 'just weed'?" no
"Where is the line then?" yes
"LSD, MDMA, Meth, Mushrooms, Heroin, Would any of those just be 'ok'?" no

So roofies are ok?

I think he meant

No to LSD
Yes to MDMA( ecstasy for those of you with less drug knowledge)
No to Meth
Yes To Mushrooms
No to Herion

Ronin13
12-11-2012, 15:29
I think he meant

No to LSD
Yes to MDMA( ecstasy for those of you with less drug knowledge)
No to Meth
Yes To Mushrooms
No to Herion
No to LSD? That's not very liberal of him.... [LOL]

Rucker61
12-11-2012, 15:48
No to LSD? That's not very liberal of him.... [LOL]

Not for unsuspecting sharing, no ;)

RMAC757
12-11-2012, 17:07
Kind of a difference there... alcohol is metabolized and out of the system much more swiftly than THC. Also, most jobs don't test for the presence of alcohol, but do for the presence of THC. Furthermore, drugging someone is quite a bit different to spiking the punch. As I stated earlier, I know people who are allergic to cannabis, I have heard of, but know of no one who is allergic to alcohol... Anaphilaxys (sp?) is a very serious thing, BTDT. Aside from that, again, like I said earlier, ingested THC packs a more potent punch than smoked, and no surprise one girl went to the ER with an anxiety attack. Some know on here, I'm waiting to get on a Sheriff's Dept., had this happened to me my chances would be shot to hell... that's messing with people's livelihood, not just a "harmless" prank. Both are wrong, but there isn't much of a comparison between lacing food with pot and spiking the punch in terms of long term. Of course spiking the punch could lead to underage intoxication, DUI, etc. So there is the immediate aftermath in both cases, but pot has more long term issues.

A little presumptuous ?

merl
12-12-2012, 18:39
an update, 18 felony counts for one of em. other hasn't been formally charged yet

http://www.timescall.com/news/longmont-local-news/ci_22177433/cu-boulder-student-charged-18-felonies-suspended-from

a conviction on any of these would mean no firearms for life. Hope they get a good plea offer....

Teufelhund
12-12-2012, 18:45
Dosing someone without their consent, regardless of the substance used, is unethical and should carry consequences for the perpetrators. Felony conviction and the resulting, permanent effects, however, is undue punishment and hardly commensurate with the crime.

Kraven251
12-12-2012, 19:38
Dosing someone without their consent, regardless of the substance used, is unethical and should carry consequences for the perpetrators. Felony conviction and the resulting, permanent effects, however, is undue punishment and hardly commensurate with the crime.

Not to down play what happened, but I don't think there was any intentional malice, just some really bad judgment. No one was seriously injured, so there is that as well. I do think these kids should have to pay for the hospital bills for the people that ended up in the ER and get to perform copious amounts of community service and some nasty probation, but I don't think a felony conviction is what these kids need. Though if they violate the terms of their probation/community service requirements, fuck em.

SideShow Bob
12-12-2012, 19:58
Ages 19 & 21 are not kids. You are considered an adult at 18, act like it, or suffer the consiquenses of your actions.
I bet that most of "you people" that are proponents of leniency would be singing a different tune if one of the victims of this "Prank" were your son, daughter or wife and they got into a serious injury accident while driving home from a college class after eating those brownies.

merl
12-12-2012, 20:03
Ages 19 & 21 are not kids. You are considered an adult at 18, act like it, or suffer the consiquenses of your actions.
I bet that most of "you people" that are proponents of leniency would be singing a different tune if one of the victims of this "Prank" were your son, daughter or wife and they got into a serious injury accident while driving home from a college class after eating those brownies.

I would be singing a different tune if ANYONE had been injured. fact is that nobody was and the act was done without intent to cause harm (making an assumption on the second part)

Kraven251
12-12-2012, 20:06
Ages 19 & 21 are not kids. You are considered an adult at 18, act like, or suffer the consiquenses of your actions.
I bet that most of "you people" that are proponents of leniency would be singing a different tune if one of the victims of this "Prank" were your son, daughter or wife and got into a serious injury accident while driving home from a college class after eating those brownies.

That is the point, no one got hurt. I would still be pissed, but I wouldn't be out for blood. I would want them to take responsibility for their actions, but I still do not see a reason for them to eat a felony conviction. And 19 & 21 are still kids, legally adults yes, but still kids with bad judgment. You asked us to take the side of the parent of the victim...how about looking at it from the perspective of the parents of the "perps."

SideShow Bob
12-12-2012, 20:08
I would be singing a different tune if ANYONE had been injured. fact is that nobody was and the act was done without intent to cause harm (making an assumption on the second part)

Not injured ? How many victims needed to be hospitalized ? Reread the OP's link. I would call that injuries.

merl
12-12-2012, 20:12
Not injured ? How many victims needed to be hospitalized ? Reread the OP's link. I would call that injuries.

I'd be tempted to goto the hospital too if I suddenly and for no reason started feeling stoned. How are the victims now? Any of the "seriously injured?"

SideShow Bob
12-12-2012, 20:16
I'd be tempted to goto the hospital too if I suddenly and for no reason started feeling stoned. How are the victims now? Any of the "seriously injured?"

So with your logic, I can shoot you as long as I don't seriously injure you it is OK and I shouldn't be punished to the full extent of the law.

merl
12-12-2012, 23:00
we obviously have different views on this. you see it as a poisoning attack. technically that is what it is.

It was not done maliciously, it was a joke. haha oh shit that wasnt funny after all.

Intent plays alot into it. I've never said no punishment. I'm advocating not branding them felons and throwing them in jail.


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You know you are a good shot, put a bullet though my pant leg as a joke. never touches me, wasn't intended to. would you expect to be in jail for attempted murder, assault? intent means quite a bit.

Fmedges
12-12-2012, 23:09
we obviously have different views on this. you see it as a poisoning attack. technically that is what it is.

It was not done maliciously, it was a joke. haha oh shit that wasnt funny after all.

Intent plays alot into it. I've never said no punishment. I'm advocating not branding them felons and throwing them in jail.


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You know you are a good shot, put a bullet though my pant leg as a joke. never touches me, wasn't intended to. would you expect to be in jail for attempted murder, assault? intent means quite a bit.

What fucking planet do you live in?

JM Ver. 2.0
12-12-2012, 23:26
Kind of a difference there... alcohol is metabolized and out of the system much more swiftly than THC. Also, most jobs don't test for the presence of alcohol, but do for the presence of THC. Furthermore, drugging someone is quite a bit different to spiking the punch. As I stated earlier, I know people who are allergic to cannabis, I have heard of, but know of no one who is allergic to alcohol... Anaphilaxys (sp?) is a very serious thing, BTDT. Aside from that, again, like I said earlier, ingested THC packs a more potent punch than smoked, and no surprise one girl went to the ER with an anxiety attack. Some know on here, I'm waiting to get on a Sheriff's Dept., had this happened to me my chances would be shot to hell... that's messing with people's livelihood, not just a "harmless" prank. Both are wrong, but there isn't much of a comparison between lacing food with pot and spiking the punch in terms of long term. Of course spiking the punch could lead to underage intoxication, DUI, etc. So there is the immediate aftermath in both cases, but pot has more long term issues.

My uncle is deathly allergic to beer. It causes his stomach to contract so violently that it tears itself away from everything else. Causes him to break ribs and tear abdominal muscles.

SA Friday
12-13-2012, 00:13
I think he meant

No to LSD Lysergic acid diethylamide, never seen and OD on this, but did see a guy fry his brain to the point of a vegetative state on it.
Yes to MDMA( ecstasy for those of you with less drug knowledge) 3.4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine is the primary drug, but there are at least 3 other sub-derivatives that meet the definition. I've seen one OD on this.
No to Meth; methamphetamine, I've seen multiple ODs and a butt-ton of permanent living zombies from this.
Yes To Mushrooms psilocybin, no OD's but there are a couple of accidental poisonings from the wrong mushroom every year.
No to Herion It's spelled heroin and is morphine diacetate. Butt load of ODs on this...

Seriously, every one of these has the potential to (some always do like meth and heroin) do irreversible damage to the user. None of these are OK, and only heroin has a viable medical use. Meth in a different form has some limited medical uses, but neither meth nor heroin are pharmaceutical grade drugs and the danger of OD is pretty high.

Aloha_Shooter
12-13-2012, 01:21
That is the point, no one got hurt. I would still be pissed, but I wouldn't be out for blood. I would want them to take responsibility for their actions, but I still do not see a reason for them to eat a felony conviction. And 19 & 21 are still kids, legally adults yes, but still kids with bad judgment. You asked us to take the side of the parent of the victim...how about looking at it from the perspective of the parents of the "perps." Ummm ... no. People DID get hurt. At the end of the day, I'd be more inclined to convict on serious misdemeanors and give them huge freaking fines, treble damages, massive community service and years of probation rather than waste money throwing them in the pokey but the felony charges may be simply designed to get them to plead to lesser charges and save the taxpayers the expense of trials. I'll say this though ... if I were the parent of the perps, they'd wish they HAD gone to jail. I'm guessing the parents of the victims would be nicer than I would if one of the perps was my kid.

buffalobo
12-13-2012, 05:56
we obviously have different views on this. you see it as a poisoning attack. technically that is what it is.

It was not done maliciously, it was a joke. haha oh shit that wasnt funny after all.

Intent plays alot into it. I've never said no punishment. I'm advocating not branding them felons and throwing them in jail.


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You know you are a good shot, put a bullet though my pant leg as a joke. never touches me, wasn't intended to. would you expect to be in jail for attempted murder, assault? intent means quite a bit.

Bad analogy, no such thing as shooting @ a person as a joke. Don't point unless you intend to destroy. Shooter in your analogy should expect death.

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Byte Stryke
12-13-2012, 07:53
charges, fines, every last cent of the medical bills, absolutely. hard time over a prank (that involved a scary plant), excessive.
yes it was a dumb joke that may well get them expelled. That in itself would knock some reality into kids pretty fast. I don't think we need to make more lifelong felons out of stupid kids. This one is damn close to the line though, could have injured someone.

Have you heard about the prank where the guy took a piss in his CSM's coffee pot?
There was a command staff meeting that day
everyone wound up with Hepatitis
Hysterical, right?

How about the one where they spiked the punch and a kid drove drunk
OMG What a knee-slapper!

Singlestack
12-13-2012, 08:06
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Gee, his son doesn't look at all like Trayvon...

Byte Stryke
12-13-2012, 08:11
we obviously have different views on this. you see it as a poisoning attack. technically that is what it is.

It was not done maliciously, it was a joke. haha oh shit that wasnt funny after all.

Intent plays alot into it. I've never said no punishment. I'm advocating not branding them felons and throwing them in jail.


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You know you are a good shot, put a bullet though my pant leg as a joke. never touches me, wasn't intended to. would you expect to be in jail for attempted murder, assault? intent means quite a bit.


Here is a really good prank! (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/10/teen-shot-in-head-during-home-invasion-prank/)
OMG HAHAHA SO FUNNY!!!! Right?

NO

what you think is a joke, others might not find so funny
the joke ends when you start messing with other people and put lives at risk

a prank is filling their office with empty boxes or rotating the view on their monitor.

BigBear
12-13-2012, 08:48
Whew, couple of you folks I know now not to invite to my parties...

IMHAOeO, throw the book at them.

The problem is not how much do you value a human life, the problem is not thinking through the consequences for your actions. For instance, this robbery shooting at the Springs liquor store. I keep hearing people say that "a bottle of liquor isn't worth a human's life!" Bull crap, don't steal and you won't be put in the position to be killed. The store owner paid, worked, logged, etc to have that product in his store. I wouldn't let some stupid kid walk in and take it without a fight. I know that's hard hearted but this world would be a much better place if people THOUGHT before they acted.

Back to the lack or morals/ethics/standards and the degradation of our society.

PugnacAutMortem
12-13-2012, 09:37
You know what...I don't have a problem with the felony charges. Honestly, if you have such poor judgement that you do something like this...I don't think you are responsible enough to own a handgun/vote/whatever the hell else you can't do when you have a felony.

JM Ver. 2.0
12-13-2012, 10:05
Oddly enough... These morons weren't the first to do something like this... Only these dipshits were a little more bold.


N.M. Cops Sue Burger King Over Marijuana-Laced HamburgersPublished November 07, 2006
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Three Burger King employees were arrested and charged with possession of marijuana and aggravated battery on an officer, a felony. They later were indicted.
The lawsuit, filed Friday in Bernalillo County, alleges personal injury, negligence, battery and violation of fair practices. It seeks unspecified damages along with legal costs.
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