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Great-Kazoo
12-13-2012, 23:25
ENOUGH ALREADY. YOU WERE WARNED, YOU WERE CAUTIONED BUT DID YOU LISTEN NO you did not[Bang][Bang]
You know who you are, the naysayer who said no politician would talk gun control. No politician would sign off unless they didn't care about being re-elected.
YOU VOTED YOUR CONSCIENCE. YOU HAD THE BALLS TO ACTUALLY SAY YOU'D VOTE FOR O. HELL SOME OF YOU LIMP DICKS DID, THEN FLAUNTED IT IN OUR FACE
HOW DO YOU[pileoshit] FEEL NOW!!!!!!! Bailey Guns, Myself, hell a lot of you, said it numerous times
Every vote nation wide that went for GaryJ was another nail in gun owners coffins. NEVER HAPPEN YOU SAID, NUMEROUS TIMES
Every Gun Owner who said O was good for AMERICA hammered those nails in deeper.
WELL GUESS WHAT GUN CONTROL IS ON THE FRONT BURNER. Here & NOW
LOOK IN THE MIRROR BITCHES WE'RE OUR OWN WORSE ENEMY. HAPPY NOW????????????????????????????????
I've been through 2 previous BAN'S Get ready our number is being called. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
[B]DISCLAIMER: NO INTENT TO ADVOCATE UNREST OR OTHER MEANS OF CONFRONTATION ARE NOT MY INTENT. Discussion and opinions are the only thing i want to see for replies. IF you talk violence i would like the mods to shut this thread down as in yesterday.
ACT Like Adults.
I totally misread this thread title, thought you were talking about the new Volkswagen model..........[Coffee]
Seriously Jim, I am with you, my frustration an anger is at an all time time high. I still have this bad sickening gut feeling when I think about our current line up of politicians. Damage is done, no more whining totally need to make our voice heard louder than the other guys. Will it work with what we are all up against?
I fear not, call me pessimistic.
(BTW typing from my phone is a PITA)
I fear the damage the next 4 years will be so severe (not just 2nd amendment rights, but all our freedoms) we will never fully recuperate.
I think you're right. People have no idea what they have thrown away. We're not alone though, the Romans and the Greeks threw their republics away too.
PugnacAutMortem
12-13-2012, 23:52
Jim...you need to cut off the coffee around 1800ish I'm thinking [LOL]
In all seriousness though...even if every single 3rd party vote went to Romney (commies and all) good ol Barry would have still won. The people you should actually be pissed at is all of the conservatives that didn't vote because they didn't like Romney. Not even 60% of eligible voters voted in the elections. THAT is who elected Obama, Chickencooper and all of the wonderful democrats to the state legislature. We just have to fight the good fight and make our voices loud and clear to the state...we should enact a zero tolerance anti-gun control policy with our reps. If they even HINT at supporting gun control...we blow up (figuratively) their phone lines, inboxes and emails. We have to put boots on the ground and round up every single 2A advocate we can find. You said you've been through two bans before...something tells me that the 3rd time might be the charm if they can get it done.
Sorry Jim, but Gary Johnson got 1% of the vote while Obama beat Romney by over 3%.
I actually blame people like Bailey and his sorts. Why??
Because it was YOU GUYS THAT SAID ROMNEY HAD THE BEST CHANCE TO BEAT OBAMA!!!!!
What happened. He lost. Why???? Because he's MITT ROMNEY!!!!
Funny thing is, Ron Paul actually polled better against Obama than Romney most of the time.
So, the real reason we are having more gun control is because of establishment republicans nominating ANOTHER limp wristed establishment progressive that happens to have a "R" behind his name.
Blame it on Tancredo for running as a 3rd-party candidate and splitting the Republican vote for governor in 2010.
Blame it on Tancredo for running as a 3rd-party candidate and splitting the Republican vote for governor in 2010.
Tancredo and Maies combined did not have enough votes to beat Looper.
JMBD2112
12-13-2012, 23:56
Jim i have a good idea of whose the shitbird you're talking about...... haven't seen him posting anything in a while....hopefully never again
Great-Kazoo
12-13-2012, 23:58
Sorry Jim, but Gary Johnson got 1% of the vote while Obama beat Romney by over 3%.
I actually blame people like Bailey and his sorts. Why??
Because it was YOU GUYS THAT SAID ROMNEY HAD THE BEST CHANCE TO BEAT OBAMA!!!!!
What happened. He lost. Why???? Because he's MITT ROMNEY!!!!
Funny thing is, Ron Paul actually polled better against Obama early in the primaries than Romney most of the time.
So, the real reason we are having more gun control is because of establishment republicans nominating ANOTHER limp wristed establishment progressive that happens to have a "R" behind his name.
first off to one of the posters I do not do caffeine, of any kind, ask anyone, even brycom. Not pretty sight. No Caffeine, alcohol , carbonated beverages none.
Now to my beloved board member and neighbor. Ye,s no, maybe. IIRC you voted for R too. My point, or one of them is the people who truly believed there would be no gun control laws even mentioned. Agree to disagree, we are our own worse enemy. Until WE (every gun owner) realizes any form of restriction, effects every gun owner. AND they are willing to step up and say NO MORE we are doomed.
PugnacAutMortem
12-13-2012, 23:59
Blame it on Tancredo for running as a 3rd-party candidate and splitting the Republican vote for governor in 2010.
Statements like this one always are surprising to me. Surprising in the way that the only way you can make a statement like that is if you truly believe in the two party system...that it actually is the best way to go about things in the political arena. I think bryjcom hit the nail on the head...the republican establishment was insane to think that Romney was the best shot. This country craved a STRONG conservative candidate...and the best the GOP could come up with was Romney?
islandermyk
12-14-2012, 00:02
This day and age...
I'd say they have a lot on their plate if they'd throw out an AWB...
... correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the spike on all these firearms, ammo, survival prep gear sales give'em the idea that signing up for an AWB would trigger some type of civil backlash? Or do you think they'd just say f*ck the 25 plus million law abiding firearm owners?
Please forgive me for my ignorance. I was in the islands and unaware of the AWB back then....
I'm not trying to encourage shit... just thinking out loud here....
PugnacAutMortem
12-14-2012, 00:03
first off to one of the posters I do not do caffeine, of any kind, ask anyone, even brycom. Not pretty sight. No Caffeine, alcohol , carbonated beverages none.
Haha Could have fooled me...I barely have enough energy to change the channel at 10:30 at night let alone unleash a rant like that one. What's your secret my friend? [Beer]
Yeah I voted for Romney for the sole reason that Obunghole is such a dick head. I kinda regret it now, knowing that I sold out my principles and over rode my gut feeling, all for nothing.
IMHO, the reason we have another 4 LOOOOOONG years with O is because stupid ass conservatives can't get their heads out of their asses and stop nominating these total dweebs. The last 2 elections we nominated McCain and Romney??? Are you freaking serious?
*Shakes head*
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 00:03
Blame it on Tancredo for running as a 3rd-party candidate and splitting the Republican vote for governor in 2010.
NO Blame it on Party over person. Dan Meas was/is a con man. The Hard Core R's backed him and other shit heads like Coors over more popular (across the R spectrum) and even the blue dog D's like Bob Scheaffer. Tancredo was hard line Immigration and the moderate R's stuck with Meas even though (until the nov debacle) most R's are Immigration conscious.
I voted person (Tancredo) over party Maes because i could not vote Maes at all.
This country craved a STRONG conservative candidate...and the best the GOP could come up with was Romney?
Don't you find it kinda "funny" that we have had one of the most conservative uprisings in modern history and we nominate one of the most progressive "conservatives" in the field?
Coinkey dink or fraud? Hmmmm.... What does your gut say?
PugnacAutMortem
12-14-2012, 00:06
Don't you find it kinda "funny" that we have had one of the most conservative uprisings in modern history and we nominate one of the most progressive "conservatives" in the field?
Coinkey dink or fraud? Hmmmm.... What does your gut say?
My gut says follow the money and I bet we find the truth there.
Tancredo and Maies combined did not have enough votes to beat Looper.
The pair of them lost by 45k votes. My guess is that if they hadn't had to battle against each other for the final 4 months, more Rs would have voted in that election. I'm sure some just stayed home.
ChunkyMonkey
12-14-2012, 00:08
Obama got 9 million less votes in 2012 vs 2008. The republicans just didnt show up at the poll. Most of these are libertarians and far right who pretty much abstained from supporting Mitt. The bickering right lost another election, and the above responses reflect the issue.
That being said, I am trying very hard not to be hateful to those who condone larger govt, higher taxes, more social justice, while ignoring the debt. But for couple months now, I have been refusing to work with or hire those w/ different political view. My BP is lower, and I can think clearer. As I have spoken openly to few of you. I am going to stay liquid for the next few years preparing for the coming fiscal cliff... the real one.. not the 2012 congress made few pennies on the dollar cut BS.
The pair of them lost by 45k votes. My guess is that if they hadn't had to battle against each other for the final 4 months, more Rs would have voted in that election. I'm sure some just stayed home.
Yeah... You could be right. Never know though. Keep in mind this was in 2010 and that was the election with a LARGE conservative turnout.. Nation wide at least, and Hick still won.
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 00:08
Yeah I voted for Romney for the sole reason that Obunghole is such a dick head. I kinda regret it now, knowing that I sold out my principles and over rode my gut feeling, all for nothing.
IMHO, the reason we have another 4 LOOOOOONG years with O is because stupid ass conservatives can't get their heads out of their asses and stop nominating these total dweebs. The last 2 elections we nominated McCain and Romney??? Are you freaking serious?
*Shakes head*
Hey i voted for the hot chick. Or as i sometimes say I voted with my Dick. Romney was a better choice than O, better than GJ, just because i'm not sold on him. Oddly enough my uncle, MR Hardcore Conservative told me in sept. Romney would loose, when asked why? He said R wasn't Conservative enough.
Give me a person who i feel good about and they have my vote. GJ wasn't that guy. I felt R would bring back some things we have lost, like decreasing entitlement programs, actually standing up to a foreign country and using the word Terrorist when addressing an attack. .
Unfortunately 50% of this country want and believe in the nanny state. well folks it's here to stay.
Obama got 9 million less votes in 2012 vs 2008. The republicans just didnt show up at the poll. Most of these are libertarians and far right who pretty much abstained from supporting Mitt. The bickering right lost another election, and the above responses reflect the issue.
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You have a good point.. which goes to my point... Maybe if we actually put up a conservative, we would have beat Obama. But alas, we didn't. The establishment fucked us again with another progressive
Statements like this one always are surprising to me. Surprising in the way that the only way you can make a statement like that is if you truly believe in the two party system...that it actually is the best way to go about things in the political arena. I think bryjcom hit the nail on the head...the republican establishment was insane to think that Romney was the best shot. This country craved a STRONG conservative candidate...and the best the GOP could come up with was Romney?
If by strong conservative you mean strong support of personal liberties, I agree that might have worked. The Republican establishment cannot tolerate such a candidate.
ChunkyMonkey
12-14-2012, 00:14
But that excuse means some of us would rather see the left won over center right. Heck, few of the posters here even support violent 'reset.' [Rant1]
Unfortunately 50% of this country want and believe in the nanny state. well folks it's here to stay.
Unfortunately the other 50% want and believe in continuous warfare. I guess we're bankrupt regardless of the election.....
crashdown
12-14-2012, 00:15
Jim.....
I gotta meet you someday, seriously.
You are like that little inner voice that I have that never has the balls to come out and call it like it is.
PugnacAutMortem
12-14-2012, 00:15
If by strong conservative you mean strong support of personal liberties, I agree that might have worked. The Republican establishment cannot tolerate such a candidate.
Which is exactly why the two party system always ends up like the situation we have today. If the republicans want to be the moderate progressive party that is just fine by me. But don't package a progressive as a conservative just because he has an R after his name.
PugnacAutMortem
12-14-2012, 00:17
Jim.....
I gotta meet you someday, seriously.
You are like that little inner voice that I have that never has the balls to come out and call it like it is.
I second that motion. We should put together a "Meet Jim Range Day" up north sometime soon.
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 00:18
You have a good point.. which goes to my point... Maybe if we actually put up a conservative, we would have beat Obama. But alas, we didn't. The establishment fucked us again with another progressive
Agreed, only i "think" the Conservative has vanished. I don't always vote party line, i vote who i feel would be good for me/us the people who want representation. That also has vanished. Big Money on both sides makes the 2 party system look like we'll end up as extras in the original ROLLERBALL movie.
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 00:20
Jim.....
I gotta meet you someday, seriously.
You are like that little inner voice that I have that never has the balls to come out and call it like it is.
Some of us do others wish they could. You ask me what my opinion os you will get it. No excuses. Not always a great way to make friends. Oh well you will know where i stand.
I put my money where my mouth is. SOMETIMES my foot too[facepalm]
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 00:21
I second that motion. We should put together a "Meet Jim Range Day" up north sometime soon.
Bring ammo i'm not a cheap date.
But that excuse means some of us would rather see the left won over center right. Heck, few of the posters here even support violent 'reset.' [Rant1]
Right. Thats why I voted for R even though every single waking moment told me not too. The problem is if you don't inspire ALL the people on your side then your not gonna get turnout.
It would be the GOP's best interest to put up a libertarian candidate. Why? Because you know the life long republican jelly fish will vote Republican no matter what... You can always count on their vote, but you can't count on the conservative idealoges and libertarians to vote. You have to run a very conservative candidate to get all the conservative votes... And better yet if you put up a libertarian candidate you could count on all the conservatives and some of the democrats to vote for them. I personally know a few people that voted for Obama that if given the chance would have voted for Ron Paul instead.
He's not all what he's cracked up to be...[Tooth]
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 00:25
He's not all what he's cracked up to be...[Tooth]
Still up, don't you have a job, or something? BRO :)
BSing with you is more fun.
I was bout ready to hit the hay but I saw your post and decided to spice it up a bit.
Teufelhund
12-14-2012, 00:28
Right. Thats why I voted for R even though every single waking moment told me not too. The problem is if you don't inspire ALL the people on your side then your not gonna get turnout.
It would be the GOP's best interest to put up a libertarian candidate. Why? Because you know the life long republican jelly fish will vote Republican no matter what... You can always count on their vote, but you can't count on the conservative idealoges and libertarians to vote. You have to run a very conservative candidate to get all the conservative votes... And better yet if you put up a libertarian candidate you could count on all the conservatives and some of the democrats to vote for them. I personally know a few people that voted for Obama that if given the chance would have voted for Ron Paul instead.
Win. Rand Paul 2016? . . if the GOP can pull its head out of its collective ass before then.
And for the record, I'm totally down for a "meet jim range day."
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 00:33
And for the record, I'm totally down for a "meet jim range day."
GREAT Now clear your PM in box!..
crashdown
12-14-2012, 00:33
Some of us do others wish they could. You ask me what my opinion os you will get it. No excuses. Not always a great way to make friends. Oh well you will know where i stand.
I put my money where my mouth is. SOMETIMES my foot too[facepalm]
I think the unique thing is that nobody has ever asked your opinion. I'm not opposed in the least to what you post, especially when it comes to Ronin... That stuff is just funny. You just put you opinion out there like that Bat Signal over Gotham City for all to admire.
Win. Rand Paul 2016? . . if the GOP can pull its head out of its collective ass before then.
Hopefully there will still be an election.....
Rand Paul is a wildcard IMHO. He sounds like his Dad but also plays the politics game a LOT more than his Dad. Hopefully he's just doing it to position himself accordingly and not isolate himself like Ron did.
ChunkyMonkey
12-14-2012, 00:34
I ll bring the dunk tank.
I ll bring the dunk tank.
Make sure the dunk tank target is AR500[Muaha]
Teufelhund
12-14-2012, 00:36
And for the record, I'm totally down for a "meet jim range day."
I'm down for that, though I've met him already. Jim and I have been talking about getting together to empty some brass for a while now and have not gotten it done yet.
I can vouch that Jim presents in person exactly as he does on the forums. The first time I met him, before he opened the gate to let us in the yard, he looked me up and down, looked over at Whistler for a second, looked back at me, swings open the gate and says, "Yeah. . . you've got some ink, you can come in."
GREAT Now clear your PM in box!..
Its cleared... somewhat.....
Teufelhund
12-14-2012, 00:37
Hopefully there will still be an election.....
Rand Paul is a wildcard IMHO. He sounds like his Dad but also plays the politics game a LOT more than his Dad. Hopefully he's just doing it to position himself accordingly and not isolate himself like Ron did.
That's my thought on the matter. I'm sure Rand has had a lot of long talks with his dad to work this shit out. STRATEGERY!
I'm down for that, though I've met him already. Jim and I have been talking about getting together to empty some brass for a while now and have not gotten it done yet.
I can vouch that Jim presents in person exactly as he does on the forums. The first time I met him, before he opened the gate to let us in the yard, he looked me up and down, looked over at Whistler for a second, looked back at me, swings open the gate and says, "Yeah. . . you've got some ink, you can come in."
First time I talked to him he said he could shoot my house from his window, and then when I met him he was all pissed about him getting screwed in a deal and said he's gonna have the guy stabbed in prison.
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 00:45
First time I talked to him he said he could shoot my house from his window, and then when I met him he was all pissed about him getting screwed in a deal and ALLEGEDLY said he's gonna have the guy stabbed in prison.
I'd vote for Rand in a heart beat NO MATTER What party he ran under.
I let TH in because his brother Whistler looked like a good guy, you marine, on the other hand...........kind of sketchy.
FWIW: my reload schedule is fairly tight. I do however need to get to whistlers sooner than later.
Brock Landers
12-14-2012, 02:41
Getting back to the original topic, I still don't expect to see major shifts in gun laws throughout the states or at the federal level in the near future. Despite the Democrats' margin of victory in 2012 public opinion still favors gun rights over gun control and support for stricter gun laws has been declining consistently since the 90's.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx
Clinton signed the AWB at a point in time when there was overwhelming public support for stricter gun control. In 2012 the opposite is true, and I am doubtful that Obama will want to waste political capital on an issue that more than half the country disagrees with him on. Also, I don't think this is purely a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It's true that a majority of Republicans support gun rights and a majority of Democrats don't, but polls consistently show healthy minorities in the 20 to 30 percent range in each party that buck those trends. Vermont is one of the bluest states in the country and its gun laws are non-existent; Texas doesn't even allow open carry.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE ALL YELLING ABOUT!
Romney would have been no different on gun control lets be serious
Whistler
12-14-2012, 05:13
I'd vote for Rand in a heart beat NO MATTER What party he ran under.
I let TH in because his brother Whistler looked like a good guy, you marine, on the other hand...........kind of sketchy.
FWIW: my reload schedule is fairly tight. I do however need to get to whistlers sooner than later.
I have bacon... http://www.cogunowners.com/images/smilies/bacondance.gif
Need to get over to EB today or tomorrow to pick up some parts I ordered, can meet you there if you want and save a couple miles. Hell I'll even bring tamales. Hmmm now that I think of it that may be why my orders always seem to arrive late Thursday...
edit: playing & forgot to post: This is just misdirection you'll never see/hear it coming in the dark of night & behind closed doors. It will come in the form of higher taxes, fees and "minimum qualifications", fewer places to shoot legally pushing guns and ammo out of the reach of most folks. It'll come in the form of UN treaties we never get to see until they pass, minor "common sense" regulations creeping like kudzu until they cover the landscape.
It will all come to pass so long as we argue and assess blame amongst ourselves. For decades we have watched as those with less fortitude willingly traded their freedom for the comforting arms of the Fed to the point they now believe it morally superior. It's more than guns, lying politicians, Liberal/Progressives or the two-party system it's the entire ideal we hold in our hearts for America.
If we are to have a chance we must come together, not just over guns but the pussification of this great country. Throw off your bubble wrap, air bags, warning labels and pointy-weird bike helmets and embrace the fact that death is but the opposite side of the coin. No one can be completely safe anywhere at any time and if you've never pushed your Harley until the front wheel started floating out you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Disclaimer: This rant is no way promotes or advocates violence of any sort. Any similarities to real persons living or dead is coincidental.
Bailey Guns
12-14-2012, 06:20
Does it really matter? We have Obama on the verge of being sworn in for a second term and he's bringing his entire agenda with him this time. It wasn't Romney's fault for not being conservative enough. It wasn't my fault for encouraging others to vote Republican. It wasn't bryjcom's fault for advocating for a Libertarian. We're reaping what we've sown for the last 50 years. Times they are a changin'.
The real problem is the Democrats are far better at this game than conservatives. This argument we're having mirrors life. Democrats are masters at class warfare and social division and they've forced conservatives over and over to play their game by their rules. Conservatives keep trying to do that and continue to get their asses handed to them.
Conservatives are heartless, racist, extreme and hate women and the poor. How do you win when half the country believes that before you even open your mouth?
I dislike liberals as much as the next guy. But the simple truth is they brought their starters and they played to win. They ran the score up and then threw it in our faces and laughed at us while we were complaining about their lack of "sportsmanship".
Pissing and moaning and talking about blame isn't going to change the score.
Byte Stryke
12-14-2012, 06:26
I Blame everyone. All of the special little snowflakes clinging to handouts, rattling sabers and sitting on the sofa. all of the -Americans, the D's, the R's and the I's. We are so stupid that we park ourselves in front of the television day after day and swallow the lies and diversity day after day without question. We have accepted the 2 party system, the media, the debt and ballooning corruption that is the "Federal government of the few, funded by the many"
Stop pointing at the ones you do not like and accept that the system has been rigged against you. you no longer have a real say. You have a theater of opinion in which you cast a ballot for a politician that is going to arrive at the same place regardless of who won. The country was lost long ago without a shot fired, we now live in a lie of what was supposed to be.
So when you want someone to blame, Blame your father and his father before him. Blame the system that is, blame yourself for not rising against it.
None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. They feed them on falsehoods till wrong looks like right in their eyes.
-Johann von Goethe
Goodburbon
12-14-2012, 06:49
Me voting for someone nationally had nothing to do with my votes in state politics...Since gun control is on the front burner in the state, not nationally, AND the guy who I didn't vote against would have won even even if everyone who voted like me would have voted AGAINST him. I fail to see the point of your rant Jim.
You're blaming people for not voting against the most likely to win worst of 10 evils.
The blame lies on a party that betrayed it's core principle...conservatism, to appeal to a "wider" section of the electorate with a progressive candidate. The blame does NOT lie on those who noticed the betrayal and would not fall into lock-step behind a progressive conservative.
bellavite1
12-14-2012, 08:08
Truth is this is not the result of some misguided Repubblican vote.
Truth is we are a country of suckers that still believe the politicians are there to do our best interest.
We are a country that was shocked that Bill Clinton lied to the nation whene he finally managed to get is dick sucked by something vaguely resembling a human being.
"He lied to us under oath!" DUH! He's a fucking politician!
This is the result of generations of people being thaught that they should feel guilty about slavery.
So now, like the menopausal cow that lives next door to me, they wanted to "give a black guy a chance".
Well, bend over if you want to give him a chance, see how well it works.
Oh, wait, we all bent over.
We bent over when we allowed our kids being taught that we ought to be ashamed of having had slaves 300 years ago.
Well, guess what, slavery has been practiced since the beginning of time, by ALL races.
You lose a war, you become a slave.
You get colonized, you become a slave.
You have no unity in you country, someone will come and make you his slave, one by one.
After the slave emancipation in the US the whole country of Liberia weas given to black ex-slaves to give them a homeland.
What is the first thing they did?
They got their own slaves!
Look it up if you don't believe me.
But this is conveniently not being taught in our school: all is being taught is that white people made black people their slaves and we shall forever feel guilty about it.
The Democrats used Obama and our guilt trips to get back in power.
Yeah, give a black man a chance: that worked out well...
And, Mods,don't give me the whole racist bullshit:I am not talking anbout a race being better than another.
I am talking facts.
Rant over.
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 09:01
Me voting for someone nationally had nothing to do with my votes in state politics...Since gun control is on the front burner in the state, not nationally, AND the guy who I didn't vote against would have won even even if everyone who voted like me would have voted AGAINST him. I fail to see the point of your rant Jim.
You're blaming people for not voting against the most likely to win worst of 10 evils.
The blame lies on a party that betrayed it's core principle...conservatism, to appeal to a "wider" section of the electorate with a progressive candidate. The blame does NOT lie on those who noticed the betrayal and would not fall into lock-step behind a progressive conservative.
I posted / Ranted because i read all the Hickenpooper says Gun Control. To be surprised or shocked, a state or nation wide call for more CONTROL especially in the gun community is ridiculous . WE the people knew if O stayed in office, IF the dems took CO / Went darker Blue there would be a fight. All the hand wringing OH MY GOD HicK wants tougher laws is bullshit. Everyone needs to stop whining, complaining etc and focus that energy on letters, ph calls PUBLIC ORGANIZED (Peaceful) Protest and let the CO representatives know WE will not stand for it. It's an up hill fight, however if we sit idle and blame each other good by guns we have owned or own.
DavieD55
12-14-2012, 09:05
More taxes, more regulations, less freedom. That is what we're going to see. If you think life is hard now just wait.
HoneyBadger
12-14-2012, 09:22
Blame it on Tancredo for running as a 3rd-party candidate and splitting the Republican vote for governor in 2010.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while... I thought when a 3 parties ran, you were supposed to blame the party with the smallest percentage of the vote for the others failures?? [Bang]
HoneyBadger
12-14-2012, 09:25
I'm so glad SOMEONE ELSE understands the nature of politicians. [Beer]
Truth is this is not the result of some misguided Repubblican vote.
Truth is we are a country of suckers that still believe the politicians are there to do our best interest.
We are a country that was shocked that Bill Clinton lied to the nation whene he finally managed to get is dick sucked by something vaguely resembling a human being.
"He lied to us under oath!" DUH! He's a fucking politician!
Rant over.
Good bye my friends, I'm moving to MT! That is unless we turn the heat up on our Democrap state legislature and let them know how we feel...
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu42uc6YIL1r13hpd.jpg
Win. Rand Paul 2016? . . if the GOP can pull its head out of its collective ass before then.
Rand Paul will never win. Just like his Daddy.
But that excuse means some of us would rather see the left won over center right. Heck, few of the posters here even support violent 'reset.' [Rant1]
I guess you're talking about posters like me. In the months leading up to the election I often said I would almost rather see the left win so we can crash this plane faster. Even though I couldn't force myself to vote for Obummer, or not vote at all, (I voted for that clown Romney because he had the best chance) I am fully prepared and expecting a violent revolution. We are too far gone for diplomacy. I hope I'm wrong, I just don't think I am.
HoneyBadger
12-14-2012, 10:46
Rand Paul will never win. Just like his Daddy.
Ohhhhh burn! [facepalm] Obviously you don't know much about Rand, he is not "just like his daddy" in most ways.
I guess you're talking about posters like me. In the months leading up to the election I often said I would almost rather see the left win so we can crash this plane faster. Even though I couldn't force myself to vote for Obummer, or not vote at all, (I voted for that clown Romney because he had the best chance) I am fully prepared and expecting a violent revolution. We are too far gone for diplomacy. I hope I'm wrong, I just don't think I am.
Good for you. This forum is for AR-15 hobbyists and talk of violent revolution has no place here. As any of the mods will probably remind you, it will absolutely not be tolerated.
Ohhhhh burn! [facepalm] Obviously you don't know much about Rand, he is not "just like his daddy" in most ways.
Good for you. This forum is for AR-15 hobbyists and talk of violent revolution has no place here. As any of the mods will probably remind you, it will absolutely not be tolerated.
Keep dreaming, keep putting up loser candidates, and keep letting the liberals take more and more control.
You have a statement of violent revolution in your signature, so go fuck yourself hypocrite. I'm not in here spouting plans or intentions, just my broad opinion on what will eventually happen. You should of probably finished out my sentence with your red, not pick and choose words.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while... I thought when a 3 parties ran, you were supposed to blame the party with the smallest percentage of the vote for the others failures?? [Bang]
Huh?
Tancredo lost the R primary. By law, Republicans (because of how many voted republican in the previous election) automatically had a spot on the ballot for their candidate.
If you are simply saying not a single Republican should have run for governor, all because they didn't vote for Tancredo in the primary? That makes even less sense. Of course they'll run the candidate that won the primary.
dwalker460
12-14-2012, 11:05
I snuck up on Jim once, I'm still alive...
Rand Paul will never win. Just like his Daddy.
I guess you're talking about posters like me. In the months leading up to the election I often said I would almost rather see the left win so we can crash this plane faster. Even though I couldn't force myself to vote for Obummer, or not vote at all, (I voted for that clown Romney because he had the best chance) I am fully prepared and expecting a violent revolution. We are too far gone for diplomacy. I hope I'm wrong, I just don't think I am.
See and there is a problem here with this... I've met a few from here (including you, Justin) and know none of us would ever be the type to instigate or much less push for anything to happen... but I do know that if/when push comes to shove, most of us on here would back it, either morally or physically. Question remains... who would start it if it was the last option available? Which it should always be the absolute last resort. I've already voiced my concern on this issue with the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action and am fully prepared to put my name on any court documents in a lawsuit against the governor or state of Colorado... but what if that doesn't work? What comes next?
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 11:11
See and there is a problem here with this... I've met a few from here (including you, Justin) and know none of us would ever be the type to instigate or much less push for anything to happen... but I do know that if/when push comes to shove, most of us on here would back it, either morally or physically. Question remains... who would start it if it was the last option available? Which it should always be the absolute last resort. I've already voiced my concern on this issue with the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action and am fully prepared to put my name on any court documents in a lawsuit against the governor or state of Colorado... but what if that doesn't work? What comes next?
That is something for another thread and not something i even want to talk about in this one.
See and there is a problem here with this... I've met a few from here (including you, Justin) and know none of us would ever be the type to instigate or much less push for anything to happen... but I do know that if/when push comes to shove, most of us on here would back it, either morally or physically. Question remains... who would start it if it was the last option available? Which it should always be the absolute last resort. I've already voiced my concern on this issue with the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action and am fully prepared to put my name on any court documents in a lawsuit against the governor or state of Colorado... but what if that doesn't work? What comes next?
Do I truly want for it to happen? No, that's ridiculous. Wanting it to happen, "talks of violent revolution", and being prepared are completely different things. I was just thinking this after my last comment but you could not pay me to believe that at least 95% of the people on this board are not prepared, or think they are prepared.
As for what will cause it to happen..... the answer lies in mankinds history. Hell, the answer lies in the United States short history even. We have no excuse for being unprepared or blind sided. Educate yourself, plan accordingly, and live your life as enjoyable as possible.
The base of what this thread is about is exactly what is throwing fuel on the fire. Electing, or allowing the election of officials that will take away our freedoms, our American birth rights..... for what? Pride? A point? The ones to blame are the Republicans that didn't show up, and the ones that were stupid enough to vote for a libertarian. Period.
Or you just have to accept the fact that we are a split left country with a Liberal controlling power now. The Liberals are better politicians, and the takers have become the majority and the workers (victims) are now the minority. We are now the slaves, this is payback from the Liberal hate machine.
PugnacAutMortem
12-14-2012, 11:18
You have a statement of violent revolution in your signature, so go fuck yourself hypocrite.
Ah...the classic defense mechanism for someone who didn't like being called out [ROFL3]
HoneyBadger
12-14-2012, 11:22
Ah...the classic defense mechanism for someone who didn't like being called out [ROFL3]
LOL I know, right?
Keep dreaming, keep putting up loser candidates, and keep letting the liberals take more and more control.
Who's the one putting up loser candidates? Unless you mean to say that you supported the winner, Barack Obama.
You have a statement of violent revolution in your signature, so go fuck yourself hypocrite. I'm not in here spouting plans or intentions, just my broad opinion on what will eventually happen. You should of probably finished out my sentence with your red, not pick and choose words.
HAHAHA Molon Labe is not suggesting violent revolution. It literally means "come and take them". If you try to take my guns, good luck. It is not in any way suggesting that if i'm unhappy with the current political climate, I'm going to start a violent revolution. Do your homework next time, settle the fuck down, and stop acting like a child.
...Unless of course you were referring to the quote from JM. [ROFL2]
HAHAHA Molon Labe is not suggesting violent revolution. It literally means "come and take them". If you try to take my guns, good luck. It is not in any way suggesting that if i'm unhappy with the current political climate, I'm going to start a violent revolution. Do your homework next time and settle the fuck down.
No, its time for you to do your home work.
Molon Labe is loosely translated to "come and take them".
It was made popular because it is what was reported that King Leonidas said to Xerxes at The Battle of Thermopylae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae). It is a classical expression of defiance of rule. Its core IS violence.
Whistler
12-14-2012, 11:40
Anyone even contemplating a "worst case scenario" needs to watch something like The Patriot again for a tiny hint of the horror you're advocating and reassess exactly where/when it was you lost your freakin' mind.
I hate to further derail this Jim, but Honey Badgers ignorance is driving me nuts.
Molon Labe is the Army SOCCENT motto, it was the motto or slogan used for the Texas Revolution, and I'm pretty sure its on the Greek military uniform as well. So regardless of your interpretation of it, you are wrong.
It is a defiant, rebellious, violence inciting motto. I have nothing against it, I have t-shirts that say it as well as other things, but you are a hypocrite.
HoneyBadger
12-14-2012, 11:47
No, its time for you to do your home work.
Molon Labe is loosely translated to "come and take them".
It was made popular because it is what was reported that King Leonidas said this to Xerxes at The Battle of Thermopylae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae). It is a classical expression of defiance of rule. Its core IS violence.
What the ffuuuuuuck? Isn't that exactly what I just said? Let me quote above, since you seem to struggle with reading comprehension:
HAHAHA Molon Labe is not suggesting violent revolution. It literally means "come and take them".
I said "literally" because it refers to the actual event that I'm going to hold my ground, should someone decided to try to "come and take [my guns]". (As a side note, I used the word "literally" absolutely literally, in the true sense of the word. Of course it is "loosely translated"... there is no exact translation from Greek to English.) This is exactly what King Leonidas was rumored to have said and meant at the battle of Thermopylae (the actual event, not the fictional story depicted in the movie 300). When the aggressor Xerxes allegedly demanded the Spartans' surrender, King Leonidas replied (again, allegedly) that Xerxes would have to come and take their weapons because they were going to stand their ground. This is exactly what I mean in my sig. I do not mean, in any way, that I'm going to start a violent revolution. Certainly King Leonidas was not intending to start a violent revolution either. He said he would stand his ground and not surrender. I think it is a good philosophy, so I put it in my sig. Unless you have something intelligent to add to this, please do not respond. (<--edit: just in case you didn't see it the first time, NMB2) I was an English major with a minor in Military History.
..And now, back to your regularly scheduled thread about Jim being sick of everyone "fuken whining"! [mop]
PugnacAutMortem
12-14-2012, 11:49
I hate to further derail this Jim, but Honey Badgers ignorance is driving me nuts.
Molon Labe is the Army SOCCENT motto, it was the motto or slogan used for the Texas Revolution, and I'm pretty sure its on the Greek military uniform as well. So regardless of your interpretation of it, you are wrong.
It is a defiant, rebellious, violence inciting motto. I have nothing against it, I have t-shirts that say it as well as other things, but you are a hypocrite.
Defiant? Yes. Rebellious? Yes. Violence inciting? [facepalm]
Keep digging your hole...the more you try and justify your hatred of Badger the more I imagine you sound like an adult from Charlie Brown.
stevelkinevil
12-14-2012, 12:06
I held my nose, took some pepto and voted for Romney. BUT the fact remains that the republican party at this point may as well be the UK's "conservative" party, its controlled by a bunch of ineffectual pseudo liberals. Their continual efforts to thwart the Liberty and Tea party movements has led to their own downfall. This coupled with massive liberal voter fraud has led to the current state of affairs and things will only get worse, because the neo-cons in control of the party at their core have many of the same agendas as their liberal counterparts (ie. more power over the citizenry). If some of you cant see this its because you simply don't want to.
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 12:08
I hate to further derail this Jim, but Honey Badgers ignorance is driving me nuts.
Molon Labe is the Army SOCCENT motto, it was the motto or slogan used for the Texas Revolution, and I'm pretty sure its on the Greek military uniform as well. So regardless of your interpretation of it, you are wrong.
It is a defiant, rebellious, violence inciting motto. I have nothing against it, I have t-shirts that say it as well as other things, but you are a hypocrite.
Then take it up with him via PM's. OR start your own thread.
What the ffuuuuuuck? Isn't that exactly what I just said? Let me quote above, since you seem to struggle with reading comprehension:
I said "literally" because it refers to the actual event that I'm going to hold my ground, should someone decided to try to "come and take [my guns]". (As a side note, I used the word "literally" absolutely literally, in the true sense of the word. Of course it is "loosely translated"... there is no exact translation from Greek to English.) This is exactly what King Leonidas was rumored to have said and meant at the battle of Thermopylae (the actual event, not the fictional story depicted in the movie 300). When the aggressor Xerxes allegedly demanded the Spartans' surrender, King Leonidas replied (again, allegedly) that Xerxes would have to come and take their weapons because they were going to stand their ground. This is exactly what I mean in my sig. I do not mean, in any way, that I'm going to start a violent revolution. Certainly King Leonidas was not intending to start a violent revolution either. He said he would stand his ground and not surrender. I think it is a good philosophy, so I put it in my sig. Unless you have something intelligent to add to this, please do not respond. I was an English major with a minor in Military History.
..And now, back to your regularly scheduled thread about Jim being sick of everyone "fuken whining"! [mop]
I might have reading comprehension issues. After all, I'm not an English major like you. Just a history major.
Defiant? Yes. Rebellious? Yes. Violence inciting? [facepalm]
Keep digging your hole...the more you try and justify your hatred of Badger the more I imagine you sound like an adult from Charlie Brown.
If a policing force, armed combatant, or military force tells you to put down your weapons, and you reply with "COME AND TAKE THEM!"..... that will not incite violence? Get the fuck out of here.
Obvious troll is obvious.
dwalker460
12-14-2012, 12:08
Seriously, I walked right up to him. Musta been on different meds or something. Dog didnt even bark (children and animals love me) and I just walked right into his garage shop. Nice guy honestly.
HoneyBadger
12-14-2012, 12:08
I held my nose, took some pepto and voted for Romney.
Did you still get the "nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea"? [ROFL2]
Then take it up with him via PM's. OR start your own thread.
Deal! Sorry for contributing to the derail.
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 12:08
I held my nose, took some pepto and voted for Romney. BUT the fact remains that the republican party at this point may as well be the UK's "conservative" party, its controlled by a bunch of ineffectual pseudo liberals. Their continual efforts to thwart the Liberty and Tea party movements has led to their own downfall. This coupled with massive liberal voter fraud has led to the current state of affairs and things will only get worse, because the neo-cons in control of the party at their core have many of the same agendas as their liberal counterparts (ie. more power over the citizenry). If some of you cant see this its because you simply don't want to.
Unfortunately i agree with this. . Add the latest shooting in a school this morning and we are fuked.
DavieD55
12-14-2012, 12:21
Have you guys noticed how the media is reporting every shooting now? We are going to start hearing about shooting after shooting, you watch. I think we will see one of the biggest attacks on the 2nd ever.
Have you guys noticed how the media is reporting every shooting now?
I was just thinking this.
Aloha_Shooter
12-14-2012, 12:37
It's not just the votes for Johnson which wouldn't have been enough to sway the election itself. It's the energy that went into fighting Romney and creating division within the anti-Socialists. Obama mobilized his base and kept them energized through bullshit like the Occupy movement and their misleading propaganda about "1%" and "99%". The anti-Socialists were not united or mobilized. Some of you said Romney wasn't conservative enough, the Republicans were the same as the Democrats and a lot of other equine fecal matter and you're still rationalizing your discontent.
Rationalize away -- the fact of the matter is that a fragmented slim majority will lose to a unified slim minority every time -- both historically and in game theory. Perotistas gave us Clinton and the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban. Otherwise moderates and conservatives who care more about some single issue (e.g., smoking pot, free condoms, a mythical war on women, NPR funding, racial loyalty, unionism, etc.) will give us the 2014 All Weapons Ban.
Goodburbon
12-14-2012, 12:46
I think having a 2 year long election cycle burnt everyone out as well. You can't bash the same story day after day for years on end and expect the people to be excited about it, they're just excited it's fukin over.
Goodburbon
12-14-2012, 12:48
It's not just the votes for Johnson which wouldn't have been enough to sway the election itself. It's the energy that went into fighting Romney and creating division within the anti-Socialists. Obama mobilized his base and kept them energized through bullshit like the Occupy movement and their misleading propaganda about "1%" and "99%". The anti-Socialists were not united or mobilized. Some of you said Romney wasn't conservative enough, the Republicans were the same as the Democrats and a lot of other equine fecal matter and you're still rationalizing your discontent.
Rationalize away -- the fact of the matter is that a fragmented slim majority will lose to a unified slim minority every time -- both historically and in game theory. Perotistas gave us Clinton and the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban. Otherwise moderates and conservatives who care more about some single issue (e.g., smoking pot, free condoms, a mythical war on women, NPR funding, racial loyalty, unionism, etc.) will give us the 2014 All Weapons Ban.
Then bring the party to me, instead of pulling the party away from me for the more "moderate" votes. You want me in the party? Include me. You want me to accept a flaming pile of shit in the name of "unity", piss off.
Edited for grammar and punctuation. Also to add.
I agreed with the Democrap platform on just as many issues as I did the Republican platform. THAT is friggin sad.
Kraven251
12-14-2012, 12:51
...will give us the 2014 All Weapons Ban.
Makes me want to track down all the pictures I have out there of my small collection and purge them
Makes me want to track down all the pictures I have out there of my small collection and purge them
Unfortunately I went boating a few weeks ago and mine fell out of the boat :(
patrick0685
12-14-2012, 13:02
its sad that we fear our government when it should fear us
Otherwise moderates and conservatives who care more about some single issue (e.g., smoking pot, free condoms, a mythical war on women, NPR funding, racial loyalty, unionism, etc.) will give us the 2014 All Weapons Ban.
2014? You're an optimist.
brianakell
12-14-2012, 13:23
Statements like this one always are surprising to me. Surprising in the way that the only way you can make a statement like that is if you truly believe in the two party system...that it actually is the best way to go about things in the political arena. I think bryjcom hit the nail on the head...the republican establishment was insane to think that Romney was the best shot. This country craved a STRONG conservative candidate...and the best the GOP could come up with was Romney?
Reality unfotunately is we have a 2 party system. Sort of. From what Ive seen, its a lot more 1 party than anything. Example, use Maes. R said they would get behind who ever won primary. They obviously never thought Maes would win But he did. Tancredo was thrown out as an option before it came down to McInnis/Maes. Vote went to Maes.
Now look at the fact that Tancredo then changed parties, signed up for a fringe party, and campaigned his a$$ off, not against Hickenlooper, but against Maes! Then also realize that MANY other R in the state told R's to vote for Tancredo! AND on top of that, you have to understand Maes never received a penny from the R party in his whole campaign! So R party lied they would get behind, never did. Then look how many jumped in to support Tancredo, who had already lost to McInnis! And on top of that, Tancredo hasnt won anything in how long? That childish bs, made it real obvious to me that the R party would rather have a D elected than an outsider.
And yes, the R party is still idiots by trying to get Romney elected, he didnt have a chance, never did. But someone who would actually help this country would screw up more of the buddy/buddy bs deals than obonzo would, so run a 1/2 a$$ race, obonzo gets the ticket, and R party still keeps getting more $ than if they had pulled with someone else, someone not so party line. It has nothing to do with principals, has everything to do with funding a party, and as long as they money keeps coming in, why or how doesnt matter.
Goodburbon
12-14-2012, 13:25
its sad that we fear our government when it should fear us
As soon as they fear one of us, he's arrested.
dwalker460
12-14-2012, 13:27
Unfortunately I went boating a few weeks ago and mine fell out of the boat :(
Yeah, Mine went boating and had a tragic boating accident, you can likely find them on the bottom of the Pueblo reservoir. I keep trying to stop those crazy firearms from boating, but yanno, they are dangerous and have minds of thier own...
No guns to see in my house! Move along. [Sofa]
Unfortunately i agree with this. . Add the latest shooting in a school this morning and we are fuked.
Yes, we are so foooooked, no matter how loud we can be.
Should I put on my Tin Foil hat or is it mathematically probable that ALL these events are specifically happening at a specific course of debate going on amongst the rhetoric ?
I feel like I am watching a scripted event..............
Teufelhund
12-14-2012, 14:32
The news coverage could easily be the preamble to a movie about a dystopian society. I'm still hesitant to buy into a conspiracy theory of specific intent, but it does look scripted.
Kraven251
12-14-2012, 14:36
I wonder which video game was used for the delivery of the conditioning, and what was used as the trigger. Now that is a conspiracy theory.
The news coverage could easily be the preamble to a movie about a dystopian society. I'm still hesitant to buy into a conspiracy theory of specific intent, but it does look scripted.
I wonder which video game was used for the delivery of the conditioning, and what was used as the trigger. Now that is a conspiracy theory.
I am not a BIG conspiracy theorist, but I do get a sense of things being pushed into directions, manipulation of information, etc.
Logically thinking this series of events is highly un-probably and coincidence happens way too often............... makes no sense.
sellersm
12-14-2012, 15:25
Remember folks, it isn't a "conspiracy theory" when there's an agenda behind it all... The phrase 'conspiracy theory' is a handwave, a rouse, a vilification/distraction technique. Let's not propagate those mis-directions. There are people and there are agendas.
Zundfolge
12-14-2012, 16:08
I am not a BIG conspiracy theorist, but I do get a sense of things being pushed into directions, manipulation of information, etc.
Logically thinking this series of events is highly un-probably and coincidence happens way too often............... makes no sense.
I can see that position (there's times I think this crap looks scripted too) But Thomas Sowell makes a good point when he says that the left doesn't need conspiracies or false flag operations because when you have a population of around 350 million freely moving individuals something crazy/bad is bound to happen once in a while, you just need plans and infrastructure in place to capitalize on them.
I can see that position (there's times I think this crap looks scripted too) But Thomas Sowell makes a good point when he says that the left doesn't need conspiracies or false flag operations because when you have a population of around 350 million freely moving individuals something crazy/bad is bound to happen once in a while, you just need plans and infrastructure in place to capitalize on them.
Yeah there is a lot of people in the world, but this is not an everyday event. There is murders everyday amongst other tragic events. Just interesting how in the last 6 month we have had a quite a few "events."
Of course your completely right the media under their own guise of journalism exploits every sensational news story specially at times when a specific agenda is in everyone's conversations lately.
I was just saying..................
Yeah I voted for Romney for the sole reason that Obunghole is such a dick head. I kinda regret it now, knowing that I sold out my principles and over rode my gut feeling, all for nothing.
IMHO, the reason we have another 4 LOOOOOONG years with O is because stupid ass conservatives can't get their heads out of their asses and stop nominating these total dweebs. The last 2 elections we nominated McCain and Romney??? Are you freaking serious?
*Shakes head*
McCain I could handle, until he got a VP. Didn't vote for hope and change but that woman scared me. I think he had a chance until she showed up.
Romney, I just had to assume that everything he said during the primary was a lie and he'd do what he had done as governor. Not the best there either. Yeah I eventually voted for Romney, hoping that he was a fucking liar, because I like a gridlocked government. How wrong is that.
IMO, the 'social conservative' section is destroying the party during the primaries. Only wackos can survive the primaries and the general population wont vote for them. I know I hate voting for someone that says they are.
BREATHER
12-14-2012, 18:33
Looks like Colorado is turning into a pussy state. I moved here from the rust belt to get away from pussy citizens and politicians...
Zundfolge
12-14-2012, 23:18
Molon Labe is loosely translated to "come and take them".
It was made popular because it is what was reported that King Leonidas said to Xerxes at The Battle of Thermopylae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae). It is a classical expression of defiance of rule. Its core IS violence.
A classical expression of "defiance of rule"? Uh, no, it's telling an invading foreigner that you will not allow them to just quietly invade and take what they want.
Nothing about "violent revolution" there, just an admonition that it you won't just roll over and show your belly to a bully.
After the challenge was issued it was Xerxes that initiated violence upon the Spartans (not the Spartan that issued the challenge).
What is ironic is that seemed to be your thesis as well (don't start trouble, but be ready if it comes your way).
Now I's just confused.
HoneyBadger
12-14-2012, 23:45
Don't worry guys, he already sent me several profane PMs telling me just how right he thinks he is. You'd better drop it, or he'll come after you too! [LOL]
Great-Kazoo
12-14-2012, 23:59
Don't worry guys, he already sent me several profane PMs telling me just how right he thinks he is. You'd better drop it, or he'll come after you too! [LOL]
Well he is........he knows it, i don't know why you don't:)
Have you guys noticed how the media is reporting every shooting now? We are going to start hearing about shooting after shooting, you watch. I think we will see one of the biggest attacks on the 2nd ever.
Well, maybe not every shooting. They report those that are sensational, incite the masses into calling for more gun control, and sell adspace, not the 192 shootings Chicago saw in November alone, in a city with the strictest gun laws and disarmed populace in the country.
I don't mean to trivialize recent events, every death is tragic and my heart goes put to the families enduring the painful loss of a child or other loved one.
http://m.cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/chicago-shootings-spike-49-november-despite-strict-gun-laws
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USAFGopherMike
12-15-2012, 03:52
If we shoot all the liberals, there won't be anyone to support the bleeding heart gun banners. Just sayin.
If we shoot all the liberals, there won't be anyone to support the bleeding heart gun banners. Just sayin.
Did you even read jim's first post?
Here is some of it, just in case you missed it.
DISCLAIMER: NO INTENT TO ADVOCATE UNREST OR OTHER MEANS OF CONFRONTATION ARE NOT MY INTENT. Discussion and opinions are the only thing i want to see for replies. IF you talk violence i would like the mods to shut this thread down as in yesterday.
ACT Like Adults.
Now can we all stay on topic please?
Byte Stryke
12-15-2012, 09:43
Now can we all stay on topic please?
Since when?
[ROFL1]
DavieD55
12-15-2012, 12:43
Well, maybe not every shooting. They report those that are sensational, incite the masses into calling for more gun control, and sell adspace, not the 192 shootings Chicago saw in November alone, in a city with the strictest gun laws and disarmed populace in the country.
I don't mean to trivialize recent events, every death is tragic and my heart goes put to the families enduring the painful loss of a child or other loved one.
http://m.cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/chicago-shootings-spike-49-november-despite-strict-gun-laws
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Yes i know. The media is using more shootings to help advance a political agenda.
I Blame everyone. All of the special little snowflakes clinging to handouts, rattling sabers and sitting on the sofa. all of the -Americans, the D's, the R's and the I's. We are so stupid that we park ourselves in front of the television day after day and swallow the lies and diversity day after day without question. We have accepted the 2 party system, the media, the debt and ballooning corruption that is the "Federal government of the few, funded by the many"
Stop pointing at the ones you do not like and accept that the system has been rigged against you. you no longer have a real say. You have a theater of opinion in which you cast a ballot for a politician that is going to arrive at the same place regardless of who won. The country was lost long ago without a shot fired, we now live in a lie of what was supposed to be.
So when you want someone to blame, Blame your father and his father before him. Blame the system that is, blame yourself for not rising against it.
Very eloquently spoken Byte. I'm calling my dad and Sharpienad's dad right now...:p
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