Changing the name of what we call our rifle platform

[johngraves2]

This will be a little bit of a rant, but it all honesty I am serious. We all have "AR" platform rifles. I would say almost all of us only use them only for target shooting and maybe some varmints all configured in .223/5.56. The select few have some other caliber for hunting larger game. All by different brands, some with gas some with piston. Why don't we stop calling them AR's and call them MSR's, Modern Sporting Rifles, which is what they are after all. So much negativity and inaccuracy surrounds the name of an AR-15, some even think AR stands for Assault Rifle. I think a shift in the name by industry leaders could have a very beneficial impact.

[dwalker460]

Before the boating accident, my weapons were called "rifle" and "carbine", and sometimes when they acted up, bastard, motherfucker, and sometimes even POS. That was all before the tragic boating accident after a three hour tour..

[SideShow Bob]

Before the boating accident, my weapons were called "rifle" and "carbine", and sometimes when they acted up, bastard, motherfucker, and sometimes even POS. That was all before the tragic boating accident after a three hour tour..

OK Mary Ann, we all believe that one..........[facepalm]

[johngraves2]

I am also talking the names manufacturers give them. Ruger calls their an SR-556. I'm not sure what that stands for, Sport Rifle?

I also just told my wife about my idea after posting this, she too thought AR was for assault rifle [fail]

[dwalker460]

I would have to look, but I believe the AR stands for Automatic Rifle. CAR stood for Colt Automatic Rifle, yada yada.

[Zombie Steve]

I always thought AR was for ARmalite.

[johngraves2]

I thought AR was from ArmaLite naming it back in the day? I guess i am wrong then.

[Teufelhund]

I thought it stood for assault rifle too, as designated by Colt. Turns out the AR part came from Armalite. I had no idea.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

[pick-me] I want to start my new LEGO build!!! Building block is a Tonka lower, with a StarWars blaster stack upper! [Coffee]

[ray1970]

There's already an MSR. It is a Steyr AUG clone.

[SideShow Bob]

There's already an MSR. It is a Steyr AUG clone.

If I am not mistaken, I am sure it is MSAR.

[nynco]

I agree with changing the terminology.

[ray1970]

If I am not mistaken, I am sure it is MSAR.

Shit. I think you're right. My bad.

[BuffCyclist]

My Fiancee was talking about this earlier, talking about how assault rifles should be banned. Being new to the shooting world, I informed her that they ARE illegal, that what I own, and many others, are AR-15s. The AR stands for Armalite, the original designer of the AR15. I think the term assault rifle was people just running away and assuming thats what the AR meant, so anything that is a black rifle is an assault rifle, and anything thats a black pistol is a glock.

[ray1970]

My favorite rifle isn't an AR. It's a ST-15.

[Blowby]

How about we name it O-15 ... everybody will worship it now.

[wctriumph]

Since my M1 was built specifically to be used by a soldier in a war, does that make it a true Assault Rifle? And since my Bushmaster carbine was built for civilian purchase and use how could it possibly be called a Assault Rifle?

And why is the identical carbine my next door neighbor has in his deputy Sheriff's car called a Patrol Rifle and mine is called an Assault Rifle? And because my Bushmaster is black would it be racist to speak of it in a derogatory way?

I can live with Modern Sporting Rifle and will use that term for now.

[Kraven251]

I would have to look, but I believe the AR stands for Automatic Rifle. CAR stood for Colt Automatic Rifle, yada yada.

the AR does stand for Automatic Rifle, though produced by Armalite

[Adawg38]

I didn't know what AR stood for so I just call mine Aaron's Reaper. [Tooth]

[Kraven251]

My Fiancee was talking about this earlier, talking about how assault rifles should be banned. Being new to the shooting world, I informed her that they ARE illegal, that what I own, and many others, are AR-15s. The AR stands for Armalite, the original designer of the AR15. I think the term assault rifle was people just running away and assuming thats what the AR meant, so anything that is a black rifle is an assault rifle, and anything thats a black pistol is a glock.

Duracoat for everybody! ...we can all go multicam

[BuffCyclist]

Duracoat for everybody! ...we can all go multicam

Seriously! I've seen multicolored (not just FDE, OD, FolGrn, etc) duracoated AR's and I've gotta say, they look pretty awesome! Especially using Rit dyes to dye MagPul furniture interesting colors.

[TEAMRICO]

No matter what you call them Liberals will always use the most terrifying term to describe them. The ignorant no nothing's will eat it up and believe it.
Rupert Murdoch is tweeting about banning Automatic Weapons!!! Uhhhhhh OK.

The more we find out about this Loon the more we will see it was the INDIVIDUAL that caused this. The media a
has been stepping on its dick and reporting nothing useful. Let the facts come out. But sadly we know how this turns out.
YOU are now going to be labeled a criminal in the near future.

[driver]

I am also talking the names manufacturers give them. Ruger calls their an SR-556. I'm not sure what that stands for, Sport Rifle?

I also just told my wife about my idea after posting this, she too thought AR was for assault rifle [fail]


I believe it is for Sturm,Ruger. SR-556, SR9, SR22 etc.

[Gunner]

I am also talking the names manufacturers give them. Ruger calls their an SR-556. I'm not sure what that stands for, Sport Rifle?

I also just told my wife about my idea after posting this, she too thought AR was for assault rifle [fail]

Strum and Ruger is what SR stands for

Sent from my Galaxy Note II

[Gunner]

I believe it is for Sturm,Ruger. SR-556, SR9, SR22 etc.

Beat me to it

Sent from my Galaxy Note II

[funkymonkey1111]

the AR does stand for Automatic Rifle, though produced by Armalite

No, it stands for ARmalite.

[Gunner]

No, it stands for ARmalite.

Nail on the head!

Sent from my Galaxy Note II

[Kraven251]

No, it stands for ARmalite.

There is a smart assed gunsmith somewhere I need to beat...

though I may have to give him the benefit of the doubt since he is a Colt armorer, and is only human.

[RYAN50BMG]

I believe I will have TORTURE THE FUCK OUT OF ANYONE USING THE PHRASE "MODERN SPORTING RIFLE".

[Zombie Steve]

No matter what you call them Liberals will always use the most terrifying term to describe them. The ignorant no nothing's will eat it up and believe it.


Agreed. I felt my blood pressure was too low earlier this evening, so I turned on the Rachel Maddow show on PMSNBC. They had a guy from "Mayors against illegal guns". My first thought was "Who the hell is for illegal guns?". That's as dumb as the people driving around with bumper stickers that say "Stop Rape". Nobody is pro-rape. I suppose if their ilk are dumb enough to believe that there are people out there against clean water and who hate the earth, there's no stopping whatever idiotic narrative they want to push.

[HoneyBadger]

I always thought AR was for ARmalite.


if it hasn't been clarified yet, this is the correct answer.

[Aloha_Shooter]

There is a smart assed gunsmith somewhere I need to beat...

though I may have to give him the benefit of the doubt since he is a Colt armorer, and is only human.

How do you blame this mistake on the gunsmith? Since I presume you understood your AR-15 is semiautomatic, how would you ever think the AR stood for Automatic Rifle? [facepalm]

[mcantar18c]

Hey R-tards... there already IS an MSR. Remington makes it, stands for "Modular Sniper Rifle" (yeah, real lib-friendly name there).
We use something similar to em at work, the XM2010. As far as I understand, it's the same chassis, with the only difference being that the 2010 uses a standard 700 action and the MSR is a new action design. They shoot great.

[Mazin]

We can rename it the Stoner-Boner [Coffee]

[Great-Kazoo]

Ummmm i own an AR. The only thing i can know that had a name changed, was my wife's last one to mine. Anything else REMAINS AS IS, That is all.

[Zundfolge]

It doesn't matter what we call our guns, just like antis twisted the term "well regulated" they will twist whatever name we use into something evil because that's what liberals and progressives do ... they tweak the language until it suits their agenda.

We could call them "Fuzzy McBunny Slippers" and within a decade all three of those words would be redefined to mean "Killer Death Machines".

[buffalobo]

I call mine what it is. A military pattern semi automatic rifle and remind users of the term assault rifle that they(assault rifles) are so heavily regulated as to be effectively outlawed for civilian ownership.

[BuffCyclist]

While perusing the Smith and Wesson website, I noticed that they call their ARs "Modern Sporting Rifles". So, OP, did you steal their idea or did they steal yours?

[BPTactical]

OK Mary Ann, we all believe that one..........[facepalm]
[LOL]



Armalite
Rifle

The Styer AUG clone is the MSAR.

We can call them whatever benign, politically correct name you want to hang on them.
They won't care.

[Bailey Guns]

Yeah...that whole appeasement approach has worked so well in the past. I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading on this forum in the last 20 hours.

[Kraven251]

How do you blame this mistake on the gunsmith? Since I presume you understood your AR-15 is semiautomatic, how would you ever think the AR stood for Automatic Rifle? [facepalm]

Because I was corrected by him on the designation of AR. ...like I said I am giving him the benefit of the doubt since he is a Colt Armorer, and the AR in CAR is Automatic Rifle. The other possibility is he was fucking with me and I missed the sarcasm.

[johngraves2]

BuffCyclist -

I actually stole it from a book on guns done by Field and Stream. I had never heard it before and I really liked it.

[cstone]

If I call it a bang stick that shoots lead gumdrops, do you think that will make it more acceptable to people who don't like guns?

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

[DANGERTASTIC!]

the AR does stand for Automatic Rifle, though produced by Armalite


It stands for Armalite Rifle, model 15.

MIS-information over the net....gotta love it.


On the subject of naming guns to something different,

You can call them Rifle,Carbine, Sniper rifle, or Black death machine.....when it comes down to it, they are TOOLS, nothing more.

Different tools have different purposes. Some people use a HAMMER to fix anything. However it may be the WRONG tool, they still do it anyway. This is often applied in real world and you can see it on an almost weekly basis, guys using a .338 for shooting Coyotes. It works but its a little "Overkill".

Or when you see "Bubbas" at the range shooting dirt clods with an AK.....when we know all you need to take down those evil dirt clods with is a .22

[JM Ver. 2.0]

It stands for Armalite Rifle, model 15.

You gusy got DANGER out of his Photo Threads... This man must speak truth...

[spyder]

the AR does stand for Automatic Rifle, though produced by Armalite
Nope...

No, it stands for ARmalite.
Nope...

[LOL]



Armalite
Rifle

Yep...

It stands for Armalite Rifle, model 15.

MIS-information over the net....gotta love it.

Nail on the head.

Most people don't know that the AR-10 was made before the AR-15.

[cstone]

Most people don't know that the AR-10 was made before the AR-15.

I knew that. 10 comes before 15 unless you are counting backwards [LOL]

I award 50 points and the thread winner to Dangertastic. Tools: use the right one for the job.

Be safe.

[SAnd]

One of my favorite quotes from a famous man-

"The problem with the internet it is impossible to verify the source of information." President Abraham Lincoln, from one of his more obscure speeches.

I've always believed it was ArmaLite Rifle model 15.

[UrbanWolf]

Does it bothers anyone when the Hollywood gun grabbers say AR stand for Assault Rifle?
From my understanding AR stand for Armlite...

[BPTactical]

For the hearing and visually impaired:

AR = ARMALITE RIFLE


This has been a public service announcement.

Thank you

[car-15]

in ops' defense as fast as the pages are rolling through today it is hard to check first unless you want to sift through 5 pages.

[SideShow Bob]

in ops' defense as fast as the pages are rolling through today it is hard to check first unless you want to sift through 5 pages.

It wasn't that long ago that this topic was page 1, and a fairly long running thread. It is not that hard to recall, unless you are suffering from short term memory loss............

[BPTactical]

in ops' defense as fast as the pages are rolling through today it is hard to check first unless you want to sift through 5 pages.

Very true.

OP, I wasn't trying to be a jerk-just sarcastic yet informative humor.

[sniper7]

[MOD: Edited. Let's not feed the anti's agenda]

Only ignorant people call them assault rifles when they think "AR". The problem is; the media, hollywood, liberals, politicians all continue to loosely use the term. the terms will only get worse. the public opinion on them must be as negative as possible until they finally get the backing to rid the world of these horrible devices.

[car-15]

It wasn't that long ago that this topic was page 1, and a fairly long running thread. It is not that hard to recall, unless you are suffering from short term memory loss............
I honestly don't give 2 squirts of piss what the topic is, I was just stating just today alone if you wanted to see if you're reposting something you would have to go back 4-5 pages to check. ETA: not to mention with some of the vague titles we use sometimes you would have to read 20 threads as well.

[cstone]

Is it wrong that I want a StG 44??? Can I have one if I promise that I will guard it so that it doesn't go on a baby killing spree?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44

[UrbanWolf]

Is it wrong that I want a StG 44??? Can I have one if I promise that I will guard it so that it doesn't go on a baby killing spree?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44

You would have to put it on a leash.

[cstone]

You would have to put it on a leash.

Deal! It would be a two point leash and I would hang the leash around my neck [Flower]

[jreifsch80]

i call my rifles

Автомат Калашникова Модернизированный and Автомат Калашникова образца 1974 года

;)

[buffalobo]

Is it wrong that I want a StG 44??? Can I have one if I promise that I will guard it so that it doesn't go on a baby killing spree?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44


Not at all(everyone should own at least two), but am sure this reply is wrong, just can't help myself.[Peep]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKZtqclXCEQ


http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/307/7/f/stg_58_austrian_fal_7_62x51mm_by_wolfwing9115-d4exgiv.jpg



No, it is not a pic of StG 44, pic of STG 58 nearly identical to mine which I Love.(SIL trolling thru emailed me).

[omegalopez]

Before the boating accident, my weapons were called "rifle" and "carbine", and sometimes when they acted up, bastard, motherfucker, and sometimes even POS. That was all before the tragic boating accident after a three hour tour..

[ROFL1]

[Singlestack]

While perusing the Smith and Wesson website, I noticed that they call their ARs "Modern Sporting Rifles". So, OP, did you steal their idea or did they steal yours?

I know the NSSF (National Shooting Sports foundation - the organization that runs the SHOT Show in January) calls ARs Modern Sporting Rifles. Their reasoning is pretty sound, in that the AR platform is today used for everything - pistols, plinking, home defense, precision shooting, sniper rifles, varmint rifles, hunting rifles - and even Shotguns (that Turkish gun introduced in the past year). By far the fastest growing platform in the shooting world.

[UrbanWolf]

What does the media think AK stand for? Ass Kicker?

[UrbanWolf]

i call my rifles

Автомат Калашникова Модернизированный and Автомат Калашникова образца 1974 года

;)

http://www.russianamericanacademyofart.com/KalashnikovPORTRAIT.smD.jpg

[jgang]

All I have are CGATBUFALPs..."constitutionaly guaranteed arms to be used for all lawful purposes."

Stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it Rachel!

[Squeeze]

Fire Extinguishers. All mine are specifically designed to/for extinguishing incoming fire from unlawful threats. [Awesom]

[sniper7]

Fire Extinguishers. All mine are specifically designed to/for extinguishing incoming fire from unlawful threats. [Awesom]

I like it.

I think I'll call mine the criminal extinguisher.

[DANGERTASTIC!]

I like to call mine a "Panty Dropper"

[ROFL1]


http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j468/Danger131/sPReaDEm-1.jpg

[ROFL1]

[HoneyBadger]

I like to call mine a "Panty Dropper"

[ROFL1]


http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j468/Danger131/sPReaDEm-1.jpg

[ROFL1]



Danger, you win this thread. Everyone else, go home. [gohome]

[Ronin13]

Danger, you win this thread. Everyone else, go home. [gohome]
Yes, yes he did! Danger, no homo, but dammit I love your work! [Beer]

[Kraven251]

Yes, yes he did! Danger, no homo, but dammit I love your work! [Beer]

Wouldn't be so sure, there is a Ray Finkle element to that picture.

[20X11]

This will be a little bit of a rant, but it all honesty I am serious. We all have "AR" platform rifles. I would say almost all of us only use them only for target shooting and maybe some varmints all configured in .223/5.56. The select few have some other caliber for hunting larger game. All by different brands, some with gas some with piston. Why don't we stop calling them AR's and call them MSR's, Modern Sporting Rifles, which is what they are after all. So much negativity and inaccuracy surrounds the name of an AR-15, some even think AR stands for Assault Rifle. I think a shift in the name by industry leaders could have a very beneficial impact.

Modern Sporting Rifle? WTF...the freakin thing was designed over 50 years ago...hardly MODERN.

[ChunkyMonkey]

What part of no infringement dont people understand. You can name it whatever you want, it's still a firearm.

[DANGERTASTIC!]

Wouldn't be so sure, there is a Ray Finkle element to that picture.

Haha. A Ray Finkle element