Eff the TSA

[Sharpienads]

I had the pleasure of watching my wife get molested by a TSA agent yesterday at COS. It made my blood boil. She set off the alarm because she is diabetic and has an insulin pump. You would think a normal human being would realize that no, my wife is not a terrorist, just a citizen trying to fly to visit family, and that the insulin pump is probably what set off the detector. But, I have now realized that people who work for the TSA are not normal. They are the lowest fucking form of human life. Fuck the TSA, and even more, fuck everyone who works there. I would starve to death before I worked for a fucking thug operation like the TSA.

[funkymonkey1111]

they are despicable people

[dwalker460]

The TSA is an excellent example of a well intentioned, well-thought out government program that was fucked from the word go.

They pay decently, which means the guberment agency was completely iunudated with demands to hire not the best people for the job, but "equally"
Their training is at best, laughable, and there is a lot of truth to the statement they are given more training about how to work the system and keep thier jobs than how to properly perform thier jobs
The worst part is they know they are ineffectual, and thier job has no meaning beyond harrassment and that they are resented, so few if any give a rats ass about actually doing a good job.

[Bailey Guns]

I have nothing but contempt for the entire organization and everyone employed there.

[DavieD55]

Sorry you guys had to go through that, It is a bunch of BS.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

The TSA is an excellent example of a well intentioned, well-thought out government program that was fucked from the word go.

They pay decently, which means the guberment agency was completely iunudated with demands to hire not the best people for the job, but "equally"
Their training is at best, laughable, and there is a lot of truth to the statement they are given more training about how to work the system and keep thier jobs than how to properly perform thier jobs
The worst part is they know they are ineffectual, and thier job has no meaning beyond harrassment and that they are resented, so few if any give a rats ass about actually doing a good job.


While I'm not the biggest fan of the TSA (They managed to break a $120 bow case that can survive a 40 foot fall) I do believe there are a FEW that actually do care. A few...

[Sharpienads]

While I'm not the biggest fan of the TSA (They managed to break a $120 bow case that can survive a 40 foot fall) I do believe there are a FEW that actually do care. A few...

I'm sure there are a few. But how can they overcome the moral dilemma of working for an organization whose sole purpose is to treat every Amerikan citizen as a terrorist, guilty until probed, prodded, groped, and proved otherwise? I hate the TSA, but when I say my wife was molested, I am not exaggerating. Right in front of everyone going through security. And when we ask if the shakedown is really necessary, we get get some bitchy remark about safety, spoken in a tone that says how dare we question the procedures put in place.

[DavieD55]

I'm sure there are a few. But how can they overcome the moral dilemma of working for an organization whose sole purpose is to treat every Amerikan citizen as a terrorist, guilty until probed, prodded, groped, and proved otherwise? I hate the TSA, but when I say my wife was molested, I am not exaggerating. Right in front of everyone going through security. And when we ask if the shakedown is really necessary, we get get some bitchy remark about safety, spoken in a tone that says how dare we question the procedures put in place.

No sh!% F%%k them!

[hatidua]

I suspect that the problem with many TSA agents is the low barrier to entry: it's not all that difficult to become a TSA agent, which means we get the dregs of society, pulling a power trip because they now have a badge. If you dare question their authority, you will very likely miss your flight....or worse.

[merl]

While I'm not the biggest fan of the TSA (They managed to break a $120 bow case that can survive a 40 foot fall) I do believe there are a FEW that actually do care. A few...

once forgot to take a portable hard drive out of the bag. They managed to drop it on the floor pulling it out to check... Thanks folks.

[RCCrawler]

If she was truly molested you should have right away called the police and filed charges before leaving the building.

If she was simply patted down like everyone else that buzzes through the metal detector, either accept that's what it takes to fly in an airplane or drive your car next time.

I know me personally if I would witness someone molesting my wife, I would need to be restrained to keep from seriously hurting someone.

[bigun1962]

Just another reason not to fly. If you do purchase a ticket to fly you know what you may have to encounter. Last plane I was on had 11 guns on it in the cabin and two with the pilots. That flight was secure! Carry on.

[JMBD2112]

i took my son back home to tenn. to meet my side of the fam when he was about six months old, they wouldnt let us through with his bottle, and then they wanted to search him. I was furious and i expressed so, needless to say we missed our flight.

[BREATHER]

There ya go, What did Nazi Germany do ??? Took a bunch of retards and gave them work during extrememly bad financial times and worse gave them power... When is the common Amercia people gonna get fed up....

[glenncal1]

I just took a flight from Hawaii a couple weeks ago, was wearing shorts. The scanner showed something around my knee (which was uncovered) they had to check though. Stupidest thing I have seen. I was bare skin for God's sake.

[TS12000]

I just imagine a bunch of little cartmans demanding we respect their authority. Sorry about the wife thing though, they did the same to my wheelchair bound grandmother, like seriously? That's the terrorist? Come the fuck on, being PC has neutered any attempt at actually providing safety so what's the point?

[Troublco]

They can't actually check Muslims, that would be profiling. Otherwise, several folks here have already expressed bits of my basic opinion.

[Sharpienads]

I just imagine a bunch of little cartmans demanding we respect their authority. Sorry about the wife thing though, they did the same to my wheelchair bound grandmother, like seriously? That's the terrorist? Come the fuck on, being PC has neutered any attempt at actually providing safety so what's the point?

My wife asked the agent why they don't profile. She said profiling was wrong. I asked her what made her think treating every Amerikan citizen like a terrorist was any better. I received a blank stare. My wife then asked when was the last time a mid-twenties, white female traveling on a two way ticket with her active duty husband tried to hijack a plane. Her response was to chuckle and say more often than you think. Bullshit.

[JohnnyEgo]

Check a bunch of guns in, no problem. Bring my toddler's sealed sugar-free juice box through security? Got to open those juice boxes and swab them for explosive. Also, we'll need to put his security blanket through the scanner. Because nothing makes us feel safer then taking a blankey from a stressed out toddler in a crowded airport.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

This is why I don't fly! F*ck all of them. I know they have a job to do but come on, you have to draw the line somewhere!

[Sharpienads]

If she was truly molested you should have right away called the police and filed charges before leaving the building.

If she was simply patted down like everyone else that buzzes through the metal detector, either accept that's what it takes to fly in an airplane or drive your car next time.

I know me personally if I would witness someone molesting my wife, I would need to be restrained to keep from seriously hurting someone.

The problem is that, as far as I know, she did receive the "simple pat down". Unacceptable. That sort of groping, especially in front of everybody, is disgusting, and would (or should) be illegal in any other circumstance I can think of, except maybe right before you were being thrown in prison.

Unfortunately, I have to fly a lot for work, so I don't really have a choice most of the time. But we decided that we will be driving from now on. We shouldn't have to just "accept that's what it takes to fly in an airplane". I do not believe that wanting to fly on a plane should force you to accept some creep federal agent feeling your breasts. Wanting to fly shouldn't mean you have to give up your 4A protected rights. There has got to be a better way. Until there is, we will drive.

[ben4372]

TSA attracts the same type of person that enjoys writing parking tickets. I like the fact that they go home with no sense of doing good for the day. Great bunch of people who eff with people all day just because they are told to. "Just doing my job"

[Sharpienads]

Check a bunch of guns in, no problem. Bring my toddler's sealed sugar-free juice box through security? Got to open those juice boxes and swab them for explosive. Also, we'll need to put his security blanket through the scanner. Because nothing makes us feel safer then taking a blankey from a stressed out toddler in a crowded airport.


This is why I don't fly! F*ck all of them. I know they have a job to do but come on, you have to draw the line somewhere!

Difference between federal and private security:

a) While trying to get on a plane, toddler and parents are harassed because they have sealed juice boxes. Common sense plays no part in the actions of the security guard.

b) While going to a sporting event, security tells diabetic woman she can't bring outside food or drinks into the arena. Woman explains she has diabetes, and needs the juice in case her blood sugar gets low. Security guard uses common sense, apologizes, and lets the woman in.

[merl]

The problem is that, as far as I know, she did receive the "simple pat down". Unacceptable. That sort of groping, especially in front of everybody, is disgusting, and would (or should) be illegal in any other circumstance I can think of, except maybe right before you were being thrown in prison.

Unfortunately, I have to fly a lot for work, so I don't really have a choice most of the time. But we decided that we will be driving from now on. We shouldn't have to just "accept that's what it takes to fly in an airplane". I do not believe that wanting to fly on a plane should force you to accept some creep federal agent feeling your breasts. Wanting to fly shouldn't mean you have to give up your 4A protected rights. There has got to be a better way. Until there is, we will drive.

there wont be a better way. ever. Both parties think this is a good thing, cannot be soft on terror after all.

[BushMasterBoy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G6URhJTvVg

[Great-Kazoo]

They had a field day when i was pierced:)
Last time out i forgot to wash my hands, after securing a gun in the car AND one of the carry on bags was used during a range trip. They were intensely and curious swabbing here and there. I told the one guy, Hey could you run that wand and swab a little higher, i getting hard and it's been so long, i'd like to enjoy it for at least another minute or two. "WE'RE done get your shoes and move along"

[joeyshoe]

They had a field day when i was pierced:)
Last time out i forgot to wash my hands, after securing a gun in the car AND one of the carry on bags was used during a range trip. They were intensely and curious swabbing here and there. I told the one guy, Hey could you run that wand and swab a little higher, i getting hard and it's been so long, i'd like to enjoy it for at least another minute or two. "WE'RE done get your shoes and move along"


gross, but HAHAHA!

back when I was in high school, i put a crosman air rifle in my checked luggage. I was stupid, naive, ignorant, ..... i don't know. I wasn't trying to be sneaky. well, anyway, that was a no go. the thing that pissed me off was that once the police came, they kept telling me that I had a bullet chambered. I kept trying to tell them that it was a .177 pellet rifle (that didn't even have the stock attached) but they insisted that it was loaded. Also, I had a box of fudge that they insisted was my ammunition. ugh.

[Irving]

If she was truly molested you should have right away called the police and filed charges before leaving the building.

If she was simply patted down like everyone else that buzzes through the metal detector, either accept that's what it takes to fly in an airplane or drive your car next time.

I know me personally if I would witness someone molesting my wife, I would need to be restrained to keep from seriously hurting someone.

If what happened to his wife at the airport, happened to your wife in ANY other circumstances, we'd be reading about the consequences of your last sentence.

[boulderite]

I have metal hardware thoughout my body . I get to deal with these clowns a lot do to traveling for work and being bolted together. It is very rare to meet one that is helpful. It is typically an attitude of I am here for only 8hrs and could care less about anything else. Eastcoast is much worse with their duties.

[sneakerd]

As far as I am concerned they are just people trying to do a tough job. I have -0- problem with TSA, never have had any problem following direction at an airport, and empathize with the fact that they most likely hate doing what they have to do. A job is a job these days. If you've got one that pays decently, you keep doing it, because the grass is not greener on the other side.

[bogie]

I had the pleasure of watching my wife get molested by a TSA agent yesterday at COS. It made my blood boil. She set off the alarm because she is diabetic and has an insulin pump. You would think a normal human being would realize that no, my wife is not a terrorist, just a citizen trying to fly to visit family, and that the insulin pump is probably what set off the detector. But, I have now realized that people who work for the TSA are not normal. They are the lowest fucking form of human life. Fuck the TSA, and even more, fuck everyone who works there. I would starve to death before I worked for a fucking thug operation like the TSA.

Bull$hit. Where was your laser designator? That should've drawn them away from her.


They had a field day when i was pierced:)
Last time out i forgot to wash my hands, after securing a gun in the car AND one of the carry on bags was used during a range trip. They were intensely and curious swabbing here and there. I told the one guy, Hey could you run that wand and swab a little higher, i getting hard and it's been so long, i'd like to enjoy it for at least another minute or two. "WE'RE done get your shoes and move along"

HAHAHAHA [ROFL2]

[PugnacAutMortem]

As far as I am concerned they are just people trying to do a tough job. I have -0- problem with TSA, never have had any problem following direction at an airport, and empathize with the fact that they most likely hate doing what they have to do. A job is a job these days. If you've got one that pays decently, you keep doing it, because the grass is not greener on the other side.

You have no problem with an agency that has never actually done what it says it's supposed to do (catch terrorists)? You have no problem with young children being groped and refusing to allow the parents to come over and comfort their upset child? You have no problems with accosting a young woman who has an insulin pump as if she is a terrorist trying to hijack the plane to fly it directly into the president's asshole?

You're right, we shouldn't give the TSA any shit whatsoever [Bang]

[sneakerd]

Never actually said any of the things you state. I personally have no problem whatsoever with TSA employees doing what they are supposed to do as they are trained to do it. None of it offends me at all. I also think using the inflammatory terms being used- goping, accosting, etc, are exaggerations of what they have to do in the performance of their jobs. Never said we shouldn't give them any "shit", that's your problem. I've seen the videos of what people think and what appear to be stupidity on the part of certain employees. Same as I have seen stupidity on videotape in many other forms of work. Calling all TSA employees various names and implying that they are all trash is stupidity in and of itself.

[Ashton]

How to prevent the TSA from touching you.... "Could you touch me a little more... I like it. While smiling."

[tmjohnson]

I was in Atlanta airport, watched two of TSA's best search an older man probably in his 80's and in a wheel chair and on oxygen. Made him stand while they searched his wheel chair and oxygen. Held him there for over 10 minutes, All the time he could barely stand. These two individuals were very rude and inconsiderate. Wouldn't even slide a chair over for the gentleman to set down while they searched. Tore his bags apart, when they were done tearing thru his stuff, they said you can go. Didn't help him put his stuff back. Yeah my opinion, TSA personnel are scum of the earth and I am being polite!

[sneakerd]

The examples given are the worst- the bad stuff that everybody talks about. How many millions of people go thru the TSA inspections every single day and have no problem whatsoever?

[PugnacAutMortem]

The examples given are the worst- the bad stuff that everybody talks about. How many millions of people go thru the TSA inspections every single day and have no problem whatsoever?

See we aren't even talking in the same ballpark if you don't think what the TSA uses as searching techniques is a "problem".

And another thing...I wouldn't really base my argument on the actions of the sheeple in this country.

[cstone]

Should airports and aircraft have any security? If you were able to design that system, what would it look like?

Please avoid what it would not be, but provide examples of what it would be; that is if you believe there should be any system at all.

Be safe.

[sneakerd]

So to bring it back..... what do you think the percentage is comparing TSA's worst moments compared to those who have absolutely no problem whatsoever going thru TSA checkpoints? Maybeeee 1 problem to how many million issues? Also- TSA "searching techniques" have nothing to do with the individuals who have to do it as part of their job.

[asmo]

As far as I am concerned they are just people trying to do a tough job. I have -0- problem with TSA, never have had any problem following direction at an airport, and empathize with the fact that they most likely hate doing what they have to do. A job is a job these days. If you've got one that pays decently, you keep doing it, because the grass is not greener on the other side.

Then you don't deal with them enough. For most of the TSA folk they are *not* trying to do a job. They are trying to coast along and do the minimum possible. They take out their frustrations on travelers. I've seen it sooooooo many times.

[sneakerd]

That's possible, I only fly a couple of times a year.

[Goodburbon]

I had a gaggle of people with beards white robes and head scarves in front of me one day. They walked right through. I was then singled out for further testing. That's effective.

[sneakerd]

No racial profiling!!! That is of course, completely idiotic. Muslims should be the first people searched, every time, all the time.

[Goodburbon]

Agreed. Whoever the terrorist group du jour is, that's who should get first look

[DireWolf]

I used to fly all the time, and I can say that on average, the TSA agents I've encountered have seemed like decent people doing a job....However...

...I have also run into many instances where one or more complete #$%!'n jackasses has been harassing someone, or trying to harass me, for no real apparent reason. It's possible that some may just be riled up from some earlier confrontation and don't quite understand the concept of professional demeanor, but generally speaking, it usually boils down to a combination of ignorance and what is most likely some psychological defect.

This is where having some extra time, staying calm, and knowing the law and your rights (at least to some minimal degree) can be enormously helpful. I've personnally had TSA attempt to pull a variety of crap on me, including the ol' grope routine (never sucessfully), but have on more than one occasion been able to watch their stupid dejected faces when the supervisor instructed them (after a calm discussion) to let me walk through the standard metal detector unmolested.