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th3w01f
12-17-2012, 19:15
http://www.paragoulddailypress.com/articles/2012/12/15/top_story/doc50cbbb312e241511092932.txt

jgang
12-17-2012, 19:37
Ill bet it the ACLU will be all over this one in a matter of seconds!!!!

cstone
12-17-2012, 19:52
Big crime problems in Paragould, AR?

Anyone on the street, in public space can attempt to talk to anyone. You have the choice on how you would like to respond.

I'm out strolling around the neighborhood and a police officer asks me for ID, and I will ask: Why? Let the interaction go from there, but more than likely I will probably just walk away until I am told that I am being detained.

Never argue with a cop on the street.

Know your rights and exercise them with courtesy and respect.

Treat others as you would like to be treated, not as they choose to treat you.

Memorize the number you will call if you are ever detained or arrested.

Be safe.

blacklabel
12-17-2012, 19:55
http://www.federalobserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/your_papers_please_krakow_1941.jpg

I don't see this ending well if it continues as planned.

Bailey Guns
12-17-2012, 21:09
First, did anyone find that page annoying? The ads kept changing and the text was jumping around like a freakin' kangaroo on the screen. Maybe it's just my browser.

Why is it the first thought that came to mind after reading the mayor's and the chief's comments was, "I hope you have a really good insurance carrier"?

Inspector Fowler
12-17-2012, 21:12
This is a sign of poor administration by this police department.

Putting patrols out like this is like a cry for help, that says, "I don't want to reach out to other departments that have successfully reduced crime in bad neighborhoods to see what actually works. In fact, I have no idea how to lower crime through effective policing. Instead, I am going to threaten this crap until the voters give in and approve a new mill levy so I can hire more cops - that's the ticket."

I would bet money that most of these cops are dreading this. They know damn well they can't actually stop anybody who isn't reasonably suspected of committing a crime, but you know their administration is going to be all over them to get field interview numbers. Most citizens are either polite or ignorant enough to actually give the cops this information, but it will leave them with a bad taste in their mouth about cops. Although the chief says his officers won't back down from requiring ID, my guess is most of them won't even bother unless the chief is standing on the same street. That's my hope, anyway.


"They may not be doing anything but walking their dog," he said. "But they're going to have to prove it."

That is 100% unconstitutional, and they should know it.


Should an individual not produce identification, Stovall said his officers would not back down. Individuals who do not produce identification when asked could be charged with obstructing a governmental operation, according to Stovall.

Holy God, has this jackass ever been to a police academy?

Somebody in the department needs to call their FOP (or similar) attorney and get an injunction so that this is stopped before cops start getting disciplined for refusing to obey an unlawful order, or worse, obeying the order out of fear and then getting sued.

CO303
12-17-2012, 21:13
Does any one know where this is?

Inspector Fowler
12-17-2012, 21:18
Arkansas. Wikipedia page has been updated to reflect the recent shenanigans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragould,_Arkansas).

ChadAmberg
12-17-2012, 21:27
Does any one know where this is?

Paragould Arkansas.

TFOGGER
12-17-2012, 22:20
Paragould: derived from an American Indian phrase meaning "Horse's Posterior"...


Does this sounds familiar: "Paperz, pleaze...."

CO303
12-17-2012, 22:37
Paragould: derived from an American Indian phrase meaning "Horse's Posterior"...


Does this sounds familiar: "Paperz, pleaze...."

I like it, very catchy

Skully
12-17-2012, 23:24
http://www.federalobserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/your_papers_please_krakow_1941.jpg

I don't see this ending well if it continues as planned.




Fitting picture for the subject matter at hand.

sniper7
12-17-2012, 23:39
so what's next...arm tattoos and shaving our body hair?

Ashton
12-17-2012, 23:39
Nope.

Inspector Fowler
12-18-2012, 00:53
so what's next...?

Should this idiot follow through, I would guess something like:

- A series of painful and well earned lawsuits
- or...The state AG intervening in whatever manner Arkansas allows
- Some totally unwarranted arrests followed by number one above

Different states have different laws, but what they are proposing violates some well established US Supreme Court case law. This won't move far, if it starts at all.

One Shot
12-18-2012, 01:01
I couldn't read the article because the website was too F-ing annoying with the advertisement that kept changing the format of the paragraph. But...what I did read sounded like a bunch of bullsheet.

Byte Stryke
12-18-2012, 05:05
I couldn't read the article because the website was too F-ing annoying with the advertisement that kept changing the format of the paragraph. But...what I did read sounded like a bunch of bullsheet.

click the pause button?

HBARleatherneck
12-18-2012, 07:01
delete

Monky
12-18-2012, 09:08
[facepalm]

Ronin13
12-18-2012, 09:11
I thought martial law was declared unconstitutional in the post-Civil War era...

Inconel710
12-18-2012, 09:45
Sounds like someone has been attending the Michael Bloomberg School of Civic LEADERship.