View Full Version : Nugent’s ‘Gun Country’ scrapped
SuperiorDG
12-20-2012, 12:34
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2047904259001/nugents-gun-country-scrapped/?playlist_id=903226511001
Another victim.
Can't say I am crying over poopie pants draft dodger Nugent getting the boot, could not have happened to a "nicer" "guy".
too bad, I liked that show. nynco, you are the fucking problem, you and your liberal fuckstain friends.
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was meant for nynco but sniper is a weirdo too [Coffee]
because people cant just tell their kids "no you cant watch such and such show " no one gets to watch
DD977GM2
12-20-2012, 13:37
Can't say I am crying over poopie pants draft dodger Nugent getting the boot, could not have happened to a "nicer" "guy".
Whether you agree with him or not, he was getting the word out about firearms and not makiing them out to be the scary death machines
the media is making them out to be. So he was doing publicity for us and getting the word out. I can only see the gun shows being
canceled as a bad thing. YMMV[facepalm]
because people cant just tell their kids "no you cant watch such and such show " no one gets to watch
lol been that way forever.
lol been that way forever.
i was just talking to a younger person about shows like miami vice and how people lost it because it was over the top (at the time) in sex and violence .
Here's an excerpt from an interview with Ted Nugent that was in the Oct. '77 issue of High Times (Johnny Rotten cover)
There is a similar interview in the Sept. '77 Creem magazine (interview with Susan Whitall)
High Times:
How did you get out of the draft?
Nugent:
"Ted was a young boy, appearing to be a hippie but quite opposite in fact, working hard and playing hard, playing rock and roll like a deviant. People would question my sanity, I played so much. So I got my notice to be in the draft. Do you think I was gonna lay down my guitar and go play army? Give me a break! I was busy doin' it to it. I had a career Jack. If I was walkin' around, hippying down, getting' loaded and pickin' my ass like your common curs, I'd say "Hey yeah, go in the army. Beats the poop out of scuffin' around in the gutters." But I wasn't a gutter dog. I was a hard workin', motherfuckin' rock and roll musician.
I got my physical notice 30 days prior to. Well, on that day I ceased cleansing my body. No more brushing my teeth, no more washing my hair, no baths, no soap, no water. Thirty days of debris build. I stopped shavin' and I was 18, had a little scraggly beard, really looked like a hippie. I had long hair, and it started gettin' kinky, matted up. Then two weeks before, I stopped eating any food with nutritional value. I just had chips, Pepsi, beer-stuff I never touched-buttered poop, little jars of Polish sausages, and I'd drink the syrup, I was this side of death, Then a week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. poop, piss the whole shot. My pants got crusted up.
See, I approached the whole thing like, Ted Nugent, cool hard-workin' dude, is gonna wreak havoc on these imbeciles in the armed forces. I'm gonna play their own game, and I'm gonna destroy 'em. Now my whole body is crusted in poop and piss. I was ill. And three or four days before, I started stayin' awake. I was close to death, but I was in control. I was extremely antidrug as I've always been, but I snorted some crystal methedrine. Talk about one wounded mother *****. A guy put up four lines, and it was for all four of us, but I didn't know and I'm vacuuming that poop right up. I was a walking, talking hunk of human poop. I was six-foot-three of sin. So the guys took me down to the physical, and my nerves, my emotions were distraught. I was not a good person. I was wounded. But as painful and nauseous as it was -- 'cause I was really into bein' clean and on the ball -- I made gutter swine hippies look like football players. I was deviano.
So I went in, and those guys in uniform couldn't believe the smell. They were ridiculin' me and pushin' me around and I was cryin', but all the time I was laughin' to myself. When they stuck the needle in my arm for the blood test I passed out, and when I came to they were kicking me into the wall. Then they made everybody take off their pants, and I did, and this sergeant says, "Oh my God, put those back on! You *****' swine you!" Then they had a urine test and I couldn't piss, But my poop was just like ooze, man, so I poop in the cup and put it on the counter. I had poop on my hand and my arm. The guy almost puked. I was so proud. I knew I had these chumps beat. The last thing I remember was wakin' up in the ear test booth and they were sweepin' up. So I went home and cleaned up.
They took a putty knife to me. I got the street rats out of my hair, ate some good steaks, beans, potatoes, cottage cheese, milk. A couple of days and I was ready to kick ass. And in the mail I got this big juicy 4-F. They'd call dead people before they'd call my ass. But you know the funny thing about it? I'd make an incredible army man. I'd be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I'd have the baddest bunch of motherfuckin' killers you'd ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn't into it. I was too busy doin' my own thing, you know?"
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxvDmPcWoEAvL_p1j5gpbyJ-HGPMzSAUD62AuLEgpAtH7vZ5ae3sF-DVp8nA
Whether you agree with him or not, he was getting the word out about firearms and not makiing them out to be the scary death machines
the media is making them out to be. So he was doing publicity for us and getting the word out. I can only see the gun shows being
canceled as a bad thing. YMMV[facepalm]
I see people like Ted as a liability for normal gun owners. He is a bad cartoon of who we are.
Here's an excerpt from an interview with Ted Nugent that was in the Oct. '77 issue of High Times (Johnny Rotten cover)
Oh of course, because something from 1977 is so relevant now, and people don't change... Congrats, you're a fucking moron. [facepalm]
Ok so being a draft dodger who poops his pants means nothing to other veterans.... ends justify the means right
DD977GM2
12-20-2012, 14:16
Ok so being a draft dodger who poops his pants means nothing to other veterans.... ends justify the means right
Never said I respected him for that. I have no control over his cowardice. Maybe he is trying to make up for his downfall and shitty judgment then
with the Pro-2nd Amendment TV show in some way. Kinda like music I listen to....majority are left wing douches yet I enjoy the music for what it is.
Also can be said about movies, the people who make them sure hate us but sometimes you have look at things for what they are. Movies are for entertainment
music is for entertainment and Pro 2A shows are about showing the masses that guns are not the scary death dealing machines they are lied about from the media.
DD977GM2
12-20-2012, 14:18
I see people like Ted as a liability for normal gun owners. He is a bad cartoon of who we are.
We can say majority of your posts in threads on here do more harm then good for the 2nd AMendment. [mop]
HBARleatherneck
12-20-2012, 14:21
my personal opinion is Ted is a douche. he is a draft dodger. he went above and beyond to get out of serving his country. Now he is some flamboyant entertainer and everyone worships him. he likes guns. wow it doesnt make us brothers. just like some douche who rides a motorcycle who wants to wave at me isnt my brother.
We can say majority of your posts in threads on here do more harm then good for the 2nd AMendment. [mop]
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But I would also like to point out that what it shows outsiders is that gun owners are not all extreme right wingers. The more people who are middle of the road and even left wing, the better for all of you. Because it takes the issue away from being a partisan win. This whole move to make guns a right wing only thing leaves the 2nd amendment vulnerable to the pendulum of politics in this country.
HBARleatherneck
12-20-2012, 14:24
the world ended one day earlier than predicted.
i agree with nynco on this.
Kraven251
12-20-2012, 14:36
I never could see Nugent as the face for 2A. Nugent is the scary man that these people are afraid of...even though they shouldn't be.
R. Lee Ermey on the otherhand I was saddened deeply when Lock and Load and Mail Call went away.
I agree with Kraven. While R. Lee Ermey was a character, he was not a bad one. He showed a tough side and a good side.
my personal opinion is Ted is a douche. he is a draft dodger. he went above and beyond to get out of serving his country. Now he is some flamboyant entertainer and everyone worships him. he likes guns. wow it doesnt make us brothers. just like some douche who rides a motorcycle who wants to wave at me isnt my brother.
And I agree with you HBAR
Teufelhund
12-20-2012, 14:44
Nugent claims he made that entire story up to mess with the High Times staff, but in fact still had a student deferment to get out of the draft anyway. Thanks for sharing the fact he avoided the draft (hadn't heard that before), but I don't know if I believe the posted story. It sounds a lot like something The Onion would publish. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp
Cassius Clay was a POS draft dodger as well, but that doesn't diminish his boxing prowess. Nugent loses his temper and makes gun-owners look pretty bad sometimes IMO, but the guy is typically informed and eloquent enough to make very good points on the subject matter. Most people have some shit in their past they aren't proud of. I'm not sure that means we should never listen to another word they say.
PugnacAutMortem
12-20-2012, 14:46
Nynco...not gonna lie...I thought you might have died. I was ok with that. Just thought you should know.
Ok so being a draft dodger who poops his pants means nothing to other veterans.... ends justify the means right
So you're in the camp that thinks there is no way in hell you can ever be respected when you avoid going to a war that you don't feel is justified? I mean, what if there was a war that broke out with Somalia (just spitballing) tomorrow, and they instituted a draft... you're saying you'd just raise your hand and go? Have you ever served in the military? I was raised by a woman who had 70% of the men in her HS graduating class get drafted to go fight in a war, they didn't want to go, but the draft made them. Being a veteran, I like the fact that I could volunteer on my own free will and go defend my country so not everyone had to. I also think people change. Ted may not have been a die hard patriot back then, also, you forget how unpopular of a war Vietnam was... of course now, looking back, whether or not we went, didn't really do much, so the "war" there could have been avoided. Did your mother have any children that lived?
No I take issue with his pro war hypocrisy. I take issue with Chicken Hawks.
No I take issue with his pro war hypocrisy. I take issue with Chicken Hawks.so now you dont like vietnam helicopter pilots ?
Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political term used in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) to describe a person who strongly supports war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War) or other military action (i.e., a War Hawk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Hawk)), yet who actively avoided military service when of age.
The term indicates that the person in question is hypocritical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy) for personally dodging a draft or otherwise shirking their duty to their country during a time of armed conflict while advocating that others do so. Generally, the implication is that chickenhawks lack the moral character to ask others to support, fight and perhaps die in an armed conflict. Those who avoid military service and continue to oppose armed aggression are not chickenhawks.
I love helicopter guys, I was stationed on a helo base for a long time. Bunch of crazy fun guys there.
No I take issue with his pro war hypocrisy. I take issue with Chicken Hawks.
DUDE!!! Are you retarded? So back when I was in High School I smoked pot, I don't now, and don't agree with it... does that make me a hypocrite or just "grown up"? Not everything is black and white and we're not zebras, we can change our stripes... Gawd, you're such a typical liberal... where is that ignore button?
was meant for nynco but sniper is a weirdo too [Coffee]
HEY!!! I represent that remark!
No not everything is black and white. But I think that those who are the first to wave the flag and call for war.... who in their own life when called upon did not step up, are Chicken Hawks. I did not see him as the cautious type when other peoples lives were on the line.
the world ended one day earlier than predicted.
i agree with nynco on this.
Me too. Just another reason we are now in the end of the world as we know it. Nothing makes any sense anymore haha
Here's an excerpt from an interview with Ted Nugent that was in the Oct. '77 issue of High Times (Johnny Rotten cover)
What about Obama smoking weed, what about his connections with various people? What about all his Czars that committed tax fraud?
The Nuge has gone above and beyond making up for his mistake as a young man.
the world ended one day earlier than predicted.
i agree with nynco on this.
you should have waited to post until tomorrow!
No not everything is black and white. But I think that those who are the first to wave the flag and call for war.... who in their own life when called upon did not step up, are Chicken Hawks. I did not see him as the cautious type when other peoples lives were on the line.
What is clearly black and white is that you are a liberal douche that should be banned from owning guns and should be banned from speaking. just my opinion. Just so it is clear, i think you are a tool.
What is clearly black and white is that you are a liberal douche that should be banned from owning guns and should be banned from speaking. just my opinion. Just so it is clear, i think you are a tool.
no really tell us how you feel [ROFL2]
Way to be a positive ambassador for ar-15.co Sniper7 [facepalm]
HBARleatherneck
12-20-2012, 15:15
Americans need to know, gun ownership, collecting guns, shooting guns, competing with guns, hunting,having guns for protetction is open to all Americans, gay, straight, lesbian, trannys, Christians, Jews, Mormons, yuppies, hippies, liberal, conservative. I have been extremely right wing my whole life. Until the last year or two, I have realized that extremism in any form is usually not a good idea. Im still very right of center. But, these Rights belong to all of us. If we continue to be exclusionary, it will only hurt us. We need to show the "other" side, that all this is open for them too.
No not everything is black and white. But I think that those who are the first to wave the flag and call for war.... who in their own life when called upon did not step up, are Chicken Hawks. I did not see him as the cautious type when other peoples lives were on the line.
I'll ask again... did your mother have any children that lived?
In the best Sam Elliot impression I can muster: "You're a special kinda stupid, ain'tcha?"
A draft (WWII being an extreme exception because we were attacked) is technically unconstitutional. After 1972 we have prided ourselves on having our military be an all volunteer force. I look at that as a good thing, because there are about 60-75% of people I graduated high school with that I don't think would ever cut it in any of our armed forces. I'll ask again, have you ever served in the military?
Americans need to know, gun ownership, collecting guns, shooting guns, competing with guns, hunting,having guns for protetction is open to all Americans, gay, straight, lesbian, trannys, Christians, Jews, Mormons, yuppies, hippies, liberal, conservative. I have been extremely right wing my whole life. Until the last year or two, I have realized that extremism in any form is usually not a good idea. Im still very right of center. But, these Rights belong to all of us. If we continue to be exclusionary, it will only hurt us. We need to show the "other" side, that all this is open for them too.
100% agreed
I'll ask again... did your mother have any children that lived?
In the best Sam Elliot impression I can muster: "You're a special kinda stupid, ain'tcha?"
A draft (WWII being an extreme exception because we were attacked) is technically unconstitutional. After 1972 we have prided ourselves on having our military be an all volunteer force. I look at that as a good thing, because there are about 60-75% of people I graduated high school with that I don't think would ever cut it in any of our armed forces. I'll ask again, have you ever served in the military?
I could ask the same of you but I am being more civil. I have no problem with someone who personally dodges the draft and later advocates for peace. He walks the walk. But someone who they themselves are not willing to stand next to another person who they are willing to send to die in battle, well I have a problem with that. Because I think that people like that dangerous to the lives of those who pledge to serve our nation.
Americans need to know, gun ownership, collecting guns, shooting guns, competing with guns, hunting,having guns for protetction is open to all Americans, gay, straight, lesbian, trannys, Christians, Jews, Mormons, yuppies, hippies, liberal, conservative. I have been extremely right wing my whole life. Until the last year or two, I have realized that extremism in any form is usually not a good idea. Im still very right of center. But, these Rights belong to all of us. If we continue to be exclusionary, it will only hurt us. We need to show the "other" side, that all this is open for them too.
ding ding ding ding. I refer back to my last post in this thread where I also echo HBAR's opinion.
I could ask the same of you but I am being more civil. I have no problem with someone who personally dodges the draft and later advocates for peace. He walks the walk. But someone who they themselves are not willing to stand next to another person who they are willing to send to die in battle, well I have a problem with that. Because I think that people like that dangerous to the lives of those who pledge to serve our nation.
Perhaps you don't read too good...Did you, nynco, ever serve in the military?
Snowman78
12-20-2012, 15:25
As awesome as I think this video is, I am not sure it shows MSR owners in a positive light.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVecBww1vcE
I served Ronin, I just don't like people who send other people to die but will not stand next to them. Its his choice, but I think he is a bad ambassador to the 2nd Amendment and that is only one of many reasons so.
PugnacAutMortem
12-20-2012, 15:32
Way to be a positive ambassador for ar-15.co Sniper7 [facepalm]
Don't you dare act like you speak for anyone here except for your dumb ass nyncopoop.
I served Ronin, I just don't like people who send other people to die but will not stand next to them. Its his choice, but I think he is a bad ambassador to the 2nd Amendment and that is only one of many reasons so.
Ok, so I take it you weren't drafted, coerced, or otherwise forced against your will to join up. If I'm correct in this, I'll continue- my dad, never served, too young to be drafted, and very pro military, does this make him bad? No. Do you think perhaps people can have a change of heart? Do you think maybe Ted didn't want to go fight in Vietnam, when one of our own presidents claimed that it wasn't our fight? Military service is not for everyone, I'm proud to say that I defend the right for people to not join, and help their nation in other ways. Ted never sent anyone to die- you look at war from a very fucked up liberal perspective- we don't send our troops to die, we send our troops to fight, there's a difference there. I think Ted is a very good ambassador to the 2nd, and just because he didn't go off and fight (I probably would have avoided the draft too) doesn't make him less of an American. Grow up. You look at things from such a biased POV, I'm not surprised hardly anyone here likes you. I'm sure you're a smart, friendly person, but I wouldn't buy you a round if I had a gun to my head... you can't look at the other side of things. I'm sure if SHTF here, Ted would proudly stand shoulder to shoulder with people who served and people who chose not to serve.
Don't you dare act like you speak for anyone here except for your dumb ass nyncopoop.
Pug run along before you get spanked again. Your childish outbursts are tiring.
PugnacAutMortem
12-20-2012, 15:41
Pug run along before you get spanked again. Your childish outbursts are tiring.
Yes master.
[fyou]
BTW...it was nice not having to deal with your bullshit for a few weeks. Thanks for the break.
Ok, so I take it you weren't drafted, coerced, or otherwise forced against your will to join up. If I'm correct in this, I'll continue- my dad, never served, too young to be drafted, and very pro military, does this make him bad? No. Do you think perhaps people can have a change of heart? Do you think maybe Ted didn't want to go fight in Vietnam, when one of our own presidents claimed that it wasn't our fight? Military service is not for everyone, I'm proud to say that I defend the right for people to not join, and help their nation in other ways. Ted never sent anyone to die- you look at war from a very fucked up liberal perspective- we don't send our troops to die, we send our troops to fight, there's a difference there. I think Ted is a very good ambassador to the 2nd, and just because he didn't go off and fight (I probably would have avoided the draft too) doesn't make him less of an American. Grow up. You look at things from such a biased POV, I'm not surprised hardly anyone here likes you. I'm sure you're a smart, friendly person, but I wouldn't buy you a round if I had a gun to my head... you can't look at the other side of things. I'm sure if SHTF here, Ted would proudly stand shoulder to shoulder with people who served and people who chose not to serve.
I have no problem with anyone who did not serve. I volunteered, my father volunteered (Vietnam time frame too), my grand father.... all the way back the French and Indian Wars; I have someone who served that was in the tree. I have no problem with people who were drafted or who even shirked the draft. But Ted over the last 10 years was about as pro war as it could get. Now whether you want to argue semantics about dying or serving does not matter to me one bit. Because if we are going to be sending those who serve this nation into harms way, we must make sure that we do it for reasons that the leaders themselves would feel are strong enough to send themselves or their kin to die for.
I don't care if you like me, my point is bigger than myself.
Pug run along before you get spanked again. Your childish outbursts are tiring.
[ROFL1] Pot, meet kettle! [facepalm]
Pug run along before you get spanked again. Your childish outbursts are tiring.
your liberal drivel is tiring. the only thing you represent here is the small group of liberals that troll.
I have no problem with anyone who did not serve. I volunteered, my father volunteered (Vietnam time frame too), my grand father.... all the way back the French and Indian Wars; I have someone who served that was in the tree. I have no problem with people who were drafted or who even shirked the draft. But Ted over the last 10 years was about as pro war as it could get. Now whether you want to argue semantics about dying or serving does not matter to me one bit. Because if we are going to be sending those who serve this nation into harms way, we must make sure that we do it for reasons that the leaders themselves would feel are strong enough to send themselves or their kin to die for.
I don't care if you like me, my point is bigger than myself.
Your point is hypocritical... So Obama didn't ever serve, and he sends troops into harms way every day... Your thoughts on this? As for Ted, do I have to come and physically beat this into your thick skull? Ted may not have agreed with the war, he may not have felt he could best serve in the military, there are a number of reasons, and who are you to fault him for that? I served, I was very proud of my service, but unlike you, I'm not a pompous little fuckbag that thinks my service somehow makes me better than those who didn't serve. You think because Ted dodged the draft in his youth, and is now pro war is somehow wrong... no you are what's wrong with this country. You think it's wrong, or hypocritical to have a change of heart or mind... guess what highspeed, people do that all the time! Faulting them for that just makes you look like a major douche. Who are you to judge someone else based on their actions or beliefs? Wake up genius, you live in a glass house, why on earth are you throwing stones?
I saw the one episode they had and wouldn't have watched it anyway.. wasn't that good.
BPTactical
12-20-2012, 15:55
You guys need a juice box and a nap?
Stop pissing on each other.
Back on topic, I always liked Nuge's music, politics, philosphies and frankness. But I will agree in the current environment he comes across too strong. He has the money, morals and smarts to be a great ambassador for the 2A. Now if he could come across a bit less brash and arrogant he could accomplish something with it......
Snowman78
12-20-2012, 16:01
^+1
Back on topic, I always liked Nuge's music, politics, philosphies and frankness. But I will agree in the current environment he comes across too strong. He has the money, morals and smarts to be a great ambassador for the 2A. Now if he could come across a bit less brash and arrogant he could accomplish something with it......[Beer]agree
too bad, I liked that show. nynco, you are the fucking problem, you and your liberal fuckstain friends.
Agree! who needs idiots like this the liberals have a patent on them
Your point is hypocritical... So Obama didn't ever serve, and he sends troops into harms way every day... Your thoughts on this? As for Ted, do I have to come and physically beat this into your thick skull? Ted may not have agreed with the war, he may not have felt he could best serve in the military, there are a number of reasons, and who are you to fault him for that? I served, I was very proud of my service, but unlike you, I'm not a pompous little fuckbag that thinks my service somehow makes me better than those who didn't serve. You think because Ted dodged the draft in his youth, and is now pro war is somehow wrong... no you are what's wrong with this country. You think it's wrong, or hypocritical to have a change of heart or mind... guess what highspeed, people do that all the time! Faulting them for that just makes you look like a major douche. Who are you to judge someone else based on their actions or beliefs? Wake up genius, you live in a glass house, why on earth are you throwing stones?
Ronin, do you really have to be such a jerk? Really?
My whole point is people like Ted were the ones calling liberals or anti war people unpatriotic scum..... for what? Calling for caution before we went to war. So yeah I think he is a piece of garbage and I have a good memory of the 2000s to remember why.
[Beer]agree
While I tend to agree- Uncle Ted does have that in-your-face attitude with his opinions on 2A... But, think for a second, how is he any different than the other side? They have that same attitude just opposite.
Ronin, do you really have to be such a jerk? Really?
My whole point is people like Ted were the ones calling liberals or anti war people unpatriotic scum..... for what? Calling for caution before we went to war. So yeah I think he is a piece of garbage and I have a good memory of the 2000s to remember why.
I wanted to be done with you, but you keep going. Yes, I have to be a jerk when someone is blatantly being a pompous, self-righteous ass... I remember the 2000's too, 9/11 is about 80% of the reason I chose to swear the oath. I won't get into a pissing match with you, and a lot weren't calling for "caution" they were outright calling for us to do nothing. Big difference. You remind me of those Clydesdales I see every Christmas, they have the blinders put on so they can only see certain things... if you were able to look at things from a different perspective, you might actually see something you might not normally see, and your opinion could change.
Except many of the people calling for caution were right in the end. As to the pissing match it seems to be one sided with you getting emotional. So don't accuse me of what you yourself are doing.
Time to put the gloves back on and keep it above the belt gents.
Except many of the people calling for caution were right in the end.
From your point of view they were right... Which war are we talking about- the one in response to being attacked, or the one to go after the genocidal dictator? I see both as being completely justified.
While I tend to agree- Uncle Ted does have that in-your-face attitude with his opinions on 2A... But, think for a second, how is he any different than the other side? They have that same attitude just opposite.
yes but its that in your face attitude that's really getting on my nerves (from both sides ) . im not saying ted is bad or wrong , just a little bit agraveted of a personality type for the gen public for a 2nd spokesman
I have no problem with Afghanistan. I had a problem with how we purposely diverted resources from that and sent them to Iraq. In retrospect, a lot of what people were saying, people that Ted called traitors for not wanting to go to war there were right. So F Ted and his chicken sh$T chicken hawk a$$.
yes but its that in your face attitude that's really getting on my nerves (from both sides ) . im not saying ted is bad or wrong , just a little bit agraveted of a personality type for the gen public for a 2nd spokesman
Agreed he was hardly the shining face to show as a normal gun owner.
Agreed he was hardly the shining face to show as a normal gun owner.
dont worry your not ether
dont worry your not ether
Badum chhh!
PugnacAutMortem
12-20-2012, 16:49
dont worry your not ether
[ROFL3]
INB4 nynco grammar lesson
My grammar sucks so I try not to be petty about those things. We all make typos
10mm-man
12-20-2012, 16:52
Can't say I am crying over poopie pants draft dodger Nugent getting the boot, could not have happened to a "nicer" "guy".
too bad, I liked that show. nynco, you are the fucking problem, you and your liberal fuckstain friends.
I can't stand the DRAFT DODGER, piece of crap either!
[ROFL3]
INB4 nynco grammar lessonwe all no eye dont give 2 [pileoshit]'s about know ghramer or spellin
10mm-man
12-20-2012, 16:56
Ok so being a draft dodger who poops his pants means nothing to other veterans.... ends justify the means right
I don't care for 99% of your views but I am gonna stand with you on this. He is a piece of shit, that in no way represents me as a gun owner!!!
10mm-man
12-20-2012, 16:59
You guys need a juice box and a nap?
Stop pissing on each other.
Back on topic, I always liked Nuge's music, politics, philosphies and frankness. But I will agree in the current environment he comes across too strong. He has the money, morals and smarts to be a great ambassador for the 2A. Now if he could come across a bit less brash and arrogant he could accomplish something with it......
^^^^^ This, except I have no respect for DRAFT DOGGERS.... So he can go pound sand and if that is what represents gun owners, GOD help!!
10mm-man
12-20-2012, 17:00
my personal opinion is Ted is a douche. he is a draft dodger. he went above and beyond to get out of serving his country. Now he is some flamboyant entertainer and everyone worships him. he likes guns. wow it doesnt make us brothers. just like some douche who rides a motorcycle who wants to wave at me isnt my brother.
I stand with you on this BROTHER!
Aloha_Shooter
12-20-2012, 17:18
Except many of the people calling for caution were right in the end. As to the pissing match it seems to be one sided with you getting emotional. So don't accuse me of what you yourself are doing.
I've got no love for or interest in Nugent but very few of the people calling for caution in either war (not sure which you're referring to) were right. WRT Vietnam, very few people were calling for caution for the same reasons MacArthur was (getting bogged down in an intractable war with questionable public support) -- most were protesting the war for the wrong reasons (and frankly, creating the condition that gave MacArthur and like-minded generals pause). WRT Iraq, again, very few people were calling for caution due to an accurate assessment of the military situation (Shinseki was one of the few who was cautious for this particular reason) -- most of the protests I remember were for wholly inaccurate or political purposes.
Rumsfeld wanted to analogize Iraq to WW II while the Left wanted to analogize it with Vietnam. Interestingly, (just as with Vietnam) purposeful undermining by the Left gave hope and energy to our adversaries which may have resulted in a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Now both of you kiss and make up.
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n8tive97
12-20-2012, 17:25
http://youtu.be/oUIXH9DeCRU
Byte Stryke
12-20-2012, 17:58
my personal opinion is Ted is a douche. he is a draft dodger. he went above and beyond to get out of serving his country. Now he is some flamboyant entertainer and everyone worships him. he likes guns. wow it doesnt make us brothers. just like some douche who rides a motorcycle who wants to wave at me isnt my brother.
Absolutely concur. You don't have to make a career out of it, but when your country calls you answer the damned phone
the world ended one day earlier than predicted.
i agree with nynco on this.
inorite? I was about to swear off drinking, but then I realized I hadn't started yet
I agree with Kraven. While R. Lee Ermey was a character, he was not a bad one. He showed a tough side and a good side.
OK Dude... stop it before I go get an Obama T-shirt and come over to your house for cosmo-tinis er something
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OK Dude... stop it before I go get an Obama T-shirt and come over to your house for cosmo-tinis er something
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You are welcome anytime Byte, I see you as a rational stand up guy around here. [Beer]
I've got no love for or interest in Nugent but very few of the people calling for caution in either war (not sure which you're referring to) were right. WRT Vietnam, very few people were calling for caution for the same reasons MacArthur was (getting bogged down in an intractable war with questionable public support) -- most were protesting the war for the wrong reasons (and frankly, creating the condition that gave MacArthur and like-minded generals pause). WRT Iraq, again, very few people were calling for caution due to an accurate assessment of the military situation (Shinseki was one of the few who was cautious for this particular reason) -- most of the protests I remember were for wholly inaccurate or political purposes.
Rumsfeld wanted to analogize Iraq to WW II while the Left wanted to analogize it with Vietnam. Interestingly, (just as with Vietnam) purposeful undermining by the Left gave hope and energy to our adversaries which may have resulted in a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Now both of you kiss and make up.
[ROFL3]
Here Aloha, let me shatter a little image of me... I agree
I tend to fall in line with Shinseki's point of view and I agreed with him 100% at the time. I don't give a crap about going around the world toppling evil dictators. Esp ones that behind the scenes were doing some good for US interests... how by keeping a lid on that crap hole called the middle east. When we were railroaded into Iraq, I hoped for the best but was not let down in the least in my expectations. None of this had to do with the military lacking. It all had to do with the ideologue goons calling the shots. They were determined to prove that the Marshal Plan was wrong and in the end got people killed for that bull headed stance.
Americans need to know, gun ownership, collecting guns, shooting guns, competing with guns, hunting,having guns for protetction is open to all Americans, gay, straight, lesbian, trannys, Christians, Jews, Mormons, yuppies, hippies, liberal, conservative. I have been extremely right wing my whole life. Until the last year or two, I have realized that extremism in any form is usually not a good idea. Im still very right of center. But, these Rights belong to all of us. If we continue to be exclusionary, it will only hurt us. We need to show the "other" side, that all this is open for them too.
Thank you for saying this.
<MADDOG>
12-20-2012, 23:09
How in the hell do these posts degenerate into rants of insults?
Because some people hate me and act like children about the fact that not all people agree with them 100%. I am doing my best not to insult or degrade fellow board members.
Because some people hate me and act like children about the fact that not all people agree with them 100%. I am doing my best not to insult or degrade fellow board members.
This is the answer.
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