Dec. 29/30 Tanner Gun Show

[sroz]

It will most likely be insane. My guess is forum members will be going for what they want & exit as quickly as humanly possible, avoid it all together, or show up for the entertainment value and not get caught up in the herd mentality.

It will be a mad house simply because buyers will view it as their last hope of finding what they want anytime soon.

Question for the vendors.....

......what is your pricing strategy for the upcoming show? The store fronts are running low on stock. Some of the vendors on this forum have not yet been involved in the frenzy since they are small operations. My guess is they will go into the show with most of their stock still available. Will you go for the huge mark-ups, sell for MSRP, or stick with your regular pricing. It presents an interesting dilemma.

[kwando]

How are they going to sell guns with a 3 day turnaround from CBI?

I'll outside selling my lowers for $500 and pmags for $50

[sroz]

I can only guess that they will have to be picked up at the ffl's place of business (gun shop or home). That's really no different than buying one anywhere else today except you will want to know where that place of business is before you buy.
The biggest effect will be on those vendors who do not possess a FFL and have to use the common FFL service by the entrance. Not sure how that would work.

[JDF]

How are they going to sell guns with a 3 day turnaround from CBI?

I'll outside selling my lowers for $500 and pmags for $50
+1

[lex137]

I wanted to get some mags for a couple of pistols and get a few gen 3 pmags, but refuse to pay above retail. If anyone goes let us know what the pricing is like.

[Goodburbon]

I might enjoy getting a seat in the bleachers and people watching for that one. Too bad I won't be around.

[kj4963]

I wonder if there will be "scalpers" outside selling Pmags? Nevrmind, the ones inside will be scalping as well.

[Great-Kazoo]

I wanted to get some mags for a couple of pistols and get a few gen 3 pmags, but refuse to pay above retail. If anyone goes let us know what the pricing is like.

What are you looking for? I'm, considering holding a Garage sale at my place. Throwing EVERYTHING i would like to move on a few tables or tarps and get rid of it. Nothign wrong with doing a mass sale one place, NO GUN SALES (Avoid the GS law) What say you?
The up side for me would be
1) hopefully recoup some cash, having less than 1K monthly sucks.
2) KEEP The guys who come over from slinking around and "touching shit".

[EKJ]

Pm coming Jim.

[hatidua]

but refuse to pay above retail

That'd have flown....two weeks ago. We're in a different world now, like it or don't, that's the reality of it.

[Great-Kazoo]

That'd have flown....two weeks ago. We're in a different world now, like it or don't, that's the reality of it.

No Shitte. Define RETAIL?

[ChunkyMonkey]

Jim is having garage sale? Dib on the dillon 650!

[sroz]

Jim is having garage sale? Dib on the dillon 650!

Is he gonna get the overflow parking from the gun show? He could make a killing! It's gonna be a mad house.

[Great-Kazoo]

Is he gonna get the over flow parking from the gun show? He could make a killing! It's gonna be a mad house.

Nope I'm up north but shuttle service is a possibility. if i could i would be walking up & down 58th about 1/2 mile away from the show with a 4 SALE sign

[DSB OUTDOORS]

You wont see my sorry ass down there this weekend. Unless someone were to pay me to go. Madhouse for sure. [panic]

[mahabali]

Yeah you couodnt pay me to go.

[Great-Kazoo]

Yeah you couodnt pay me to go.

Unless you are camping out or on 25 by 6am, i doubt you will get close. Any money on CSP handling traffic on 25[LOL]

[AR_ART]

Some good points. Going to be very interesting to see how it impacts the individuals who sell privately (meaning non-FFL). I bet its going to be a madhouse. Shizz is going to be flying out the door or off the tables.

Since we live in a Capitalist society, dealers should charge what the "traffic" will bear.

Personally, I'm glad, I prepared along time ago. I've got my shizz load of PMAGS and ARs....

[JoeT]

I was informed last night that I need a few more ammo cans. . . but will it be worth the crowds?

[alxone]

if people want to sit for a sec or step out from the crowd then just stop by the ass table and say hello

[APEXgunparts]

Gloria & I will be set up at TANNER, in our usual location.
I expect this show will have us both hopping all day long!

Richard

[Squeeze]

I wanted to get some mags for a couple of pistols and get a few gen 3 pmags, but refuse to pay above retail. If anyone goes let us know what the pricing is like.

I'll do my best. I plan on getting there early so I can get in and out before the tinfoil hats start exploding. If you see a guy wearing a black Glock hat running through the crowd with fingers in his ears shouting "LA LA LA LA LA" until he gets to the right table - That's me. I also agree that if the vendors are over-pricing the magazines on ANYTHING, they will get told to go fornicate with a goat.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'll do my best. I plan on getting there early so I can get in and out before the tinfoil hats start exploding. If you see a guy wearing a black Glock hat running through the crowd with fingers in his ears shouting "LA LA LA LA LA" until he gets to the right table - That's me. I also agree that if the vendors are over-pricing the magazines on ANYTHING, they will get told to go fornicate with a goat.

Based on the TP and other gun forums i doubt it. Then again, define reasonable pistol mags? The majority of 12-15 round mags sell or sold new around $25-30 per, Before this shiit happened.

[USMC88-93]

I'm debating on walking around the show to get nibbles and bites on my Para Fal. But considering I wouldn't be able to part with it the same day due to the background check backlog I am not sure its worth the hassle. I may just go to see what I get offered from the crowd. I wouldn't sell it to a dealer table as I would loose out on their mark up.

If I go I'm wearing a MARPAT boonie and carrying the FAL, Lets plan ahead and not dress alike. (ha-ha)
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[BlasterBob]

I'll bet there will be a ton of nibbles on the FAL and the AR. However, you do want to keep in mind about the required BG checks on these at a gun show According to Colorado law, Article 26.1, 12-26.1-101 (3) reads,
"If any part of a firearm transaction takes place at a gun show, no firearm shall be transferred unless a background check has been obtained by a licensed gun dealer". I know, it sounds like bull shit but if someone shows interest in your firearm and indicates that they'll give you a phone call and possibly work something out later that day at another location or will meet you in a few days, that would be illegal according to the CO statute (any PART of the transaction)....I doubt if anyone has been prosecuted for a violation of this but you had sure better know EXACTLY who you are dealing with. Also, there just may be an over abundance of LEO's cruising the aisles at this particular gun show. Just posting this in a sincere effort to keep our fellow members from getting "pinched" for something they are not even aware of.

[USMC88-93]

Ist posting this in a sincere effort to keep our fellow members from getting "pinched" for something they are not even aware of.


Bob, half the fun is going to be asking the gang banger types that show interest if they have $3,000 in their pocket and if they do "well lets head on up to the front to get a background check started". Only to see the sad look of despair and desperation on their faces. I bough a Garand once based on a contact I made at the show but it was weeks later and I am aware of the law but appreciate the concern none the less.

I would not consider doing such a transaction and would of course require the Background check if sold via a contact at the show.

[palepainter]

See ya there tomorrow sometime. Just looking for a few optics and accessories. Debating if I need to get there in the am or in the afternoon.

[Dave]

See ya there tomorrow sometime. Just looking for a few optics and accessories. Debating if I need to get there in the am or in the afternoon.

I would advise getting there before doors opening to make sure you have a good enough selection. With all the gun sales others will likely be looking for some of the same optics and accessories. I'm looking for some cans of non tracer 5.56 ammo and I'm heading out early to see what's available.

[DesertStorm1]

OK Guys and Gals, I was told today (by dealer) that the background check is now 6 days and 10 hours and counting for a reply. Oh course this is bull shit, since it was suppose to be quick and easy. Just another Infringement on the 2nd. So, no firearms will be leaving the show. I do love this in a way, cause people are maybe seeing the writing on the wall and will become patriots!

[roberth]

I was there yesterday for set up. I saw a few ARs and less magazines. I talked to a vendor who sold out all his ARs and parts, he doesn't think he'll get resupplied for a few weeks. Apparently the distributors (RSR, etc.) have nothing to distribute to the dealers and the manufacturers are sold out too. I saw 3 AR180s, a Sterling and a couple of others. I'll try to post during the day today.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

OK Guys and Gals, I was told today (by dealer) that the background check is now 6 days and 10 hours and counting for a reply. Oh course this is bull shit, since it was suppose to be quick and easy. Just another Infringement on the 2nd. So, no firearms will be leaving the show. I do love this in a way, cause people are maybe seeing the writing on the wall and will become patriots!



So.... You would rather no background checks at all?

I don't see how the back up is the CBI's fault. What if you got backed up at work and everyone threw a fit about how incompetent you are?

You should chill.

[Dave]

So.... You would rather no background checks at all?

I don't see how the back up is the CBI's fault. What if you got backed up at work and everyone threw a fit about how incompetent you are?

You should chill.

I think he's complaining about how long each one takes. I've rarely had one take less than an hour, and that was a few years ago when I bought one on a tuesday morning. If a cop can pull up your history from his patrol car using your DL number in about 30 seconds, the CBI checks shouldn't take as long for each one to process. So when a backup does occur we don't end up with what amounts to a week waiting period to take our purchase home, though I'd rather the background checks be accurate and not allow a firearm to go to someone who shouldn't have one.

[omegalopez]

WOW It's 7:30 and there are people already In line outside waiting for the doors to open at the Tanner Gun Show.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Good freakin luck. The best part is you goobers prolly think you're gonna get a deal.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I think he's complaining about how long each one takes. I've rarely had one take less than an hour, and that was a few years ago when I bought one on a tuesday morning. If a cop can pull up your history from his patrol car using your DL number in about 30 seconds, the CBI checks shouldn't take as long for each one to process. So when a backup does occur we don't end up with what amounts to a week waiting period to take our purchase home, though I'd rather the background checks be accurate and not allow a firearm to go to someone who shouldn't have one.

All these checks are run by a computer... I'm sure we all know what happens when you try to open too many things, too quickly, on a computer... It slows down...

This isn't the CBI's fault. No one could have forseen or expected this to happen.

[omegalopez]

Good freakin luck. The best part is you goobers prolly think you're gonna get a deal.

No am on the inside drinking my coffee watching them all pull up. It sure looks cold out side

[sneakerd]

I totally agree with JM- and highclass!!!

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

No am on the inside drinking my coffee watching them all pull up. It sure looks cold out side

Gotcha. [AR15]

[joedelt]

Heading up now. Continuing my hunt for a few old odds and ends. I expect it should be amusing. Black Friday esk

[electronman1729]

How early were you there this morning?

[Robert217]

I just need to pick up a couple ammo cans but really I just want to grin at the unprepared hoards. I said 4 1/2 years ago that odummer would try this. I'm gonna wait till tomorrow afternoon to see what's left of the carnage. Appreciate the updates omega.

[BlasterBob]

OK Guys and Gals, I was told today (by dealer) that the background check is now 6 days and 10 hours and counting for a reply. Oh course this is bull shit, since it was suppose to be quick and easy. Just another Infringement on the 2nd. So, no firearms will be leaving the show. I do love this in a way, cause people are maybe seeing the writing on the wall and will become patriots!



I do believe there will be some firearms leaving the show in the hands of the new buyers providing the firearms they have just bought are C&R firearms that have been purchased from an authorized C&R Licensed person. If they are from a regular FFL dealer, then BG checks and wait is mandatory. Remember M1 Garands and M1 Carbines along with many others are considered C&R's.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I just need to pick up a couple ammo cans but really I just want to grin at the unprepared hoards. I said 4 1/2 years ago that odummer would try this. I'm gonna wait till tomorrow afternoon to see what's left of the carnage. Appreciate the updates omega.

There should be plenty of jewelry left....

[palepainter]

It was worth it for me. This goober found an Ishapore in 7.62 for 150bucks, out the door with the C&R. :p

[Dave]

Not bad, been looking for some Mosin Nagants myself. Bud's has them for 120 each, saw some last week at the show in Douglas Co for 150. I wasn't able to make it, wife wasn't feeling good and gave the impression it was best for me to stay home with her.

[DesertStorm1]

So.... You would rather no background checks at all?

I don't see how the back up is the CBI's fault. What if you got backed up at work and everyone threw a fit about how incompetent you are?

You should chill.



I think they are over rated. The BAD guys and gals still get what they want. IF you like the background checks, you must love the TSA. I have had years of government training on aircraft HJ and it always was put on by the ground crew. The point I was making is that "the check" was sold to the public as a few minutes of their time. So if some one needs a firearm for protection (ie being stalked by the ex) 10 days maybe to late. This has happened here in Colorado. BTW when I was on patrol in the county, my response could be up to two hours. [dig]

[ChunkyMonkey]

What's an EPSO? El Paso Sherrif? Police?

Back to the topic,

Background checks have not slow down any gun crime committed by criminals.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I think they are over rated. The BAD guys and gals still get what they want. IF you like the background checks, you must love the TSA. I have had years of government training on aircraft HJ and it always was put on by the ground crew. The point I was making is that "the check" was sold to the public as a few minutes of their time. So if some one needs a firearm for protection (ie being stalked by the ex) 10 days maybe to late. This has happened here in Colorado. BTW when I was on patrol in the county, my response could be up to two hours. [dig]

13 years as a Deputy and you're in favor of selling guns to just anyone with no checks?

Few things, by the way..


I dont care if you have 100 years of LE under your belt... That doesn't mean you're worth a damn.

Removing the check system would kill the second amendment faster than an entire tribe of Obamas.

And yes, I do like the background checks.

I don't fly enough for the TSA to bother me.

Keep digging the hole... You're gonna need it...

[JM Ver. 2.0]

What's an EPSO? El Paso Sherrif? Police?

Back to the topic,

Background checks have not slow down any gun crime committed by criminals.

Be that as it may.... Getting them taken away will never happen. Ever. So lets not even talk about it. Before you know it some asshole from the media will read it and sprout some bullshit story about how "gun owners are in favor of selling to criminals."

[DesertStorm1]

Ok I was there and it was the zoo, won't be going back soon, got the safe I needed and some jewelry for my girl.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Be that as it may.... Getting them taken away will never happen. Ever. So lets not even talk about it. Before you know it some asshole from the media will read it and sprout some bullshit story about how "gun owners are in favor of selling to criminals."

Are you serious? You are stretching. How many private transfers happen in this country and how many gun crimes are committed by legally purchased guns? For all you know, you sold your lowers to some illegal immigrant few nights ago..since you didn't ask me for anything. You did sell me firearms w/o background check, didnt you?

Background check slows down gun crime rate as much as a 17 year old cannot get his/her hand on beer because it's forbidden. California has both background check and waiting time, what's their rate of gun crime compare to say CO, AZ, or Alaska. How about Chicago where until recently, no legal guns are allowed. How was their gun crime rate? COME BACK JM!!!! are we losing you??

[Great-Kazoo]

I just need to pick up a couple ammo cans but really I just want to grin at the unprepared hoards. I said 4 1/2 years ago that odummer would try this. I'm gonna wait till tomorrow afternoon to see what's left of the carnage. Appreciate the updates omega.

4.5 years ago? You're about 18 years too late.

[Great-Kazoo]

No am on the inside drinking my coffee watching them all pull up. It sure looks cold out side

Where you there when that guy screwed me out of those Pmags ! ! ! !

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Are you serious? You are stretching. How many private transfers happen in this country and how many gun crimes are committed by legally purchased guns? For all you know, you sold your lowers to some illegal immigrant few nights ago..since you didn't ask me for anything. You did sell me firearms w/o background check, didnt you?

Background check slows down gun crime rate as much as a 17 year old cannot get his/her hand on beer because it's forbidden. California has both background check and waiting time, what's their rate of gun crime compare to say CO, AZ, or Alaska. How about Chicago where until recently, no legal guns are allowed. How was their gun crime rate? COME BACK JM!!!! are we losing you??

I wouldn't use our deal as an example... For one, you've got more than enough feedback for me to feel safe selling you something. Two, would you like to be the victim of racial profiling? Personally, I don't pay attention to race. To me, you're just harder to see in the dark and a little hard to understand when you talk. Other than that, you're a person.

Now... On to the crime thing... Nothing is going to stop the spread of guns. We all understand that... But the that have never been around guns, have no desire to be around guns, and don't know a damn thing about guns DONT know that.

Have you ever heard the term, "Choosing your battles"?

Getting BGCs taken off the table is NOT a battle we want to try and fight. It's not a battle we can win. And it's also not a very socially acceptable battle given the current events.


Now, if you want to make us all out to be gun crazed freaks that think EVERYONE should have a gun no matter what, you go right ahead. Just don't take my rights down the drain with you.

[USMC88-93]

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[ChunkyMonkey]

I wouldn't use our deal as an example... For one, you've got more than enough feedback for me to feel safe selling you something. Two, would you like to be the victim of racial profiling? Personally, I don't pay attention to race. To me, you're just harder to see in the dark and a little hard to understand when you talk. Other than that, you're a person.

Now... On to the crime thing... Nothing is going to stop the spread of guns. We all understand that... But the that have never been around guns, have no desire to be around guns, and don't know a damn thing about guns DONT know that.

Have you ever heard the term, "Choosing your battles"?

Getting BGCs taken off the table is NOT a battle we want to try and fight. It's not a battle we can win. And it's also not a very socially acceptable battle given the current events.


Now, if you want to make us all out to be gun crazed freaks that think EVERYONE should have a gun no matter what, you go right ahead. Just don't take my rights down the drain with you.

HA HA! I take your profiling of me as compliment. Nevertheless, you keep putting words in people's mouths.. quit it!! Noone said they should do away w/ background check but you. Noone mentioned gun crazed freak who think everyone should have a gun no matter what but you. Here are the facts mentioned above:
1. Background checks Do Not decrease gun crime rate
2. It is an infringement

These are undisputed-able. Stop trying to introduce completely new angle of the argument either.. you are giving me heart burn! [dig]

[JM Ver. 2.0]

HA HA! I take your profiling of me as compliment. Nevertheless, you keep putting words in people's mouths.. quit it!! Noone said they should do away w/ background check but you. Noone mentioned gun crazed freak who think everyone should have a gun no matter what but you. Here are the facts mentioned above:
1. Background checks Do Not decrease gun crime rate
2. It is an infringement

These are undisputed-able. Stop trying to introduce completely new angle of the argument either.. you are giving me heart burn! [dig]

Suit yourself...


Given that English is probably not your first, or more fluent, language I'll excuse you from understanding the words that are coming from my fingers. ;)

And now you're giving me heart burn... And I take a pill for that... THANKS, A-Hole!

[DesertStorm1]

13 years as a Deputy and you're in favor of selling guns to just anyone with no checks?

Few things, by the way..


I dont care if you have 100 years of LE under your belt... That doesn't mean you're worth a damn.

Removing the check system would kill the second amendment faster than an entire tribe of Obamas.

And yes, I do like the background checks.

I don't fly enough for the TSA to bother me.

Keep digging the hole... You're gonna need it...

Thanks Jim LOL, but I have been called a lot worse than what you printed, but it still comes down to if give away the farm a foot at a time it will still be gone in the end (with or without the tribe of Obummers.) Compromise is their tool, not ours.



Ok, back at matters at hand does any one have any experience with the show in Loveland, CO at the Ranch?? Good/small/not worth it???[dig]

[MrPrena]

Good old days (5-6 years ago), when I can just part my car at a front parking lot. Pay and go inside the show.



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[Dravur]

I almost got a table at this show, I have about 6 ARs I could sell... and buy a freaking car. I dunno. Im so torn... Do I sell one to someone who hasn't thought this through, hoping I could replace it later... or, just keep mine, shoot them.

Although I do have one I would like to trade for a good Over under. Hell, according to todays prices, I have over 3 grand just in P-mags.

Its nuts, its sad and I think I am keeping everything. Well, except for that one...

[sneakerd]

I want to know how ChunkyMonkey can claim (and PROVE) that background checks do not decrease crime? I'm pretty damn sure that background checks keep felons from buying guns at gunshops.

[spqrzilla]

Because felons have no trouble buying the few guns they need for crime from other criminals. Background checks do not result in a decrease of crime. There was no association of a reduction with the addition to background checks with the passage of the Brady legislation mandating background checks.

[hurley842002]

I almost got a table at this show, I have about 6 ARs I could sell... and buy a freaking car. I dunno. Im so torn... Do I sell one to someone who hasn't thought this through, hoping I could replace it later... or, just keep mine, shoot them.

Although I do have one I would like to trade for a good Over under. Hell, according to todays prices, I have over 3 grand just in P-mags.

Its nuts, its sad and I think I am keeping everything. Well, except for that one...

Honestly, if I had more than one AR of the same caliber, I'd likely sell'em and buy ammo. In your case I'd probably sell three and buy food for the other three. Unless of course you have a metric sh$t ton of ammo already, lol.

[hammer03]

Did you guys notice all the public backlash and protesting?

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/12/29/lone-protester-pickets-tanner-gun-show-in-denver/

Careful she might shout mean things at you tomorrow!

[Great-Kazoo]

Did you guys notice all the public backlash and protesting?

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/12/29/lone-protester-pickets-tanner-gun-show-in-denver/

Careful she might shout mean things at you tomorrow!

Someone should report her to the authorities. "SHE'S ABOUT TO SNAP" last thing we need is a rampaging protester with one of those deadly placards. At least we know she prefers being alone to quality time with her child. Stay classy mom.
10 years from now when her kid's holed up in some dive bar, sucking dick for tap beer, her only memory will be how mom said FUK You kid i'ma going wave my freak flag high.

ATTICA, ATTICA

[sneakerd]

Whatever your reasoning- I am glad that some people get turned down (denied) on their background checks. Considering some of the people who legally purchase guns from us, I wish more would be denied.

[ChunkyMonkey]

I want to know how ChunkyMonkey can claim (and PROVE) that background checks do not decrease crime? I'm pretty damn sure that background checks keep felons from buying guns at gunshops.

On your first point, my thought process is the NICS which was created by the brady act (AWB) 1994 did not prevented mass shooting such as Columbine. Those guns were purchased legally by a straw buyer, werent they? Can you say AWB decreased gun crime?

I truly believe that any felons/bad guys with bad intention will not have any issue getting guns. I am more concerned about stores/gun show vendors who sell guns to gangster wannabe as long as they passed background checks.

[sneakerd]

Do you believe that there would be less... or more likelihood of guns in the hands of felons if they were able to walk into their local gunstore and purchase a handgun without a background check? That of course is a simple yes or no question.

[ChunkyMonkey]

No of course not, but then the same rejected felons that really want those guns will then buy them in some back alley. Meanwhile the rest of the citizens stand in line subjected to the same treatment as terrorist.. whoops that would be TSA. Wait, I am at lost of what's the difference.

[rgburdie]

No of course not, but then the same rejected felons that really want those guns will then buy them in some back alley. Meanwhile the rest of the citizens stand in line subjected to the same treatment as terrorist.. whoops that would be TSA. Wait, I am at lost of what's the difference.

Not much difference there bud.

[sneakerd]

Really? Comparing having to be in a computer que waiting for a background check (warm at home in front of the TV) to standing in line at the airport "same treatment as terrorist"? Your logic (lack of) totally escapes me. Also- you ask me - "Can you say AWB decreased crime?" As a debate point, it is up to you to prove your statement, not up to me to disprove it. Your single example of Colombine is nebulous at best.

[gnihcraes]

Lady friend of mine, bought a new SW MP yesterday, paid extra for a Phone In background check. She got a phone call this morning of approval and to pick up her new purchase!

I'm not sure which vendor yet, but will find out. Sure beats the 11 day wait via internet check.

[dwalker460]

Really? Comparing having to be in a computer que waiting for a background check (warm at home in front of the TV) to standing in line at the airport "same treatment as terrorist"? Your logic (lack of) totally escapes me. Also- you ask me - "Can you say AWB decreased crime?" As a debate point, it is up to you to prove your statement, not up to me to disprove it. Your single example of Colombine is nebulous at best.

IMHO Background checks are an invasion of privacy and UN-Constitutional, so yeah, you are being treated as a potential terrorist. I know its hard, but think back to when we could walk into a gunstore, select a firearm, and walk out with it. The weird thing is that the number of violent crimes per capita was far less than today.
Then came waiting periods, to allow for "cooling off" so an angry wife wouldnt go out and buy a gun to shoot her cheating ass husband and Post Office employees couldnt get pissy and go buy a gun on the way into work and shoot the place up. Stupid laws put into place for specific and rare issues that did nothing to fix the problem.

Stupid BS like "Well a background check is a reasonable compromise" is what is allowing the 2nd to be eroded away.

EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN should be pissed as hell the background ghecks are taking so long, and they should be calling every elected official they can get a number for to complain, loudly and without apology, that they are being denied the property they have payed for for stupid political crap that has NEVER worked in the first place. No background check has ever prevented a crime. The Newtown shooter was denied baed on a background check so he just went and took the guns he wanted.

[Dave]

IMHO Background checks are an invasion of privacy and UN-Constitutional, so yeah, you are being treated as a potential terrorist. I know its hard, but think back to when we could walk into a gunstore, select a firearm, and walk out with it. The weird thing is that the number of violent crimes per capita was far less than today.
Then came waiting periods, to allow for "cooling off" so an angry wife wouldnt go out and buy a gun to shoot her cheating ass husband and Post Office employees couldnt get pissy and go buy a gun on the way into work and shoot the place up. Stupid laws put into place for specific and rare issues that did nothing to fix the problem.

Stupid BS like "Well a background check is a reasonable compromise" is what is allowing the 2nd to be eroded away.

EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN should be pissed as hell the background ghecks are taking so long, and they should be calling every elected official they can get a number for to complain, loudly and without apology, that they are being denied the property they have payed for for stupid political crap that has NEVER worked in the first place. No background check has ever prevented a crime. The Newtown shooter was denied baed on a background check so he just went and took the guns he wanted.

You should see what other states have to go through. When I was home on leave in MI back in 2001 I bought a 9mm pistol and it was a circus to complete the transaction. I had to pass a check at the gun store, get all the info on the pistol and take it to the local police station, fill out paperwork there and wait a few hours for the cops to do another check on me and the pistol. I then got a pistol puchase permit, went back to the gun store to complete the transaction and per state law I couldn't buy any ammo that fit that gun from them that day, so I had to head to Meijer later to grab a box of ammo. Then I went back to the police station so they could check out the pistol to make sure it confomed to state law, like functioning safety, mag capacity and also that it came with a trigger lock so they would put the final signature on the pistol license.

[dwalker460]

You should see what other states have to go through. When I was home on leave in MI back in 2001 I bought a 9mm pistol and it was a circus to complete the transaction. I had to pass a check at the gun store, get all the info on the pistol and take it to the local police station, fill out paperwork there and wait a few hours for the cops to do another check on me and the pistol. I then got a pistol puchase permit, went back to the gun store to complete the transaction and per state law I couldn't buy any ammo that fit that gun from them that day, so I had to head to Meijer later to grab a box of ammo. Then I went back to the police station so they could check out the pistol to make sure it confomed to state law, like functioning safety, mag capacity and also that it came with a trigger lock so they would put the final signature on the pistol license.


Also Un- Constitutional

[Great-Kazoo]

Not a line this am like yesterday. same woman protesting instead spending time with her family. bad enough she missed the kid's birthday.

[dwalker460]

Somone should go give her a dollar, ask her if shes hungry, and offer to drive her to the the Denver Rescue Mission or help her call a family member who might be able to help her, basically treat her like she is as homeless as she is clueless. And while your at it, give her a copy of the US Constitution and a set of Clifs notes...

[kidicarus13]

Or give her $8 and get her into the heart of the lion's den.

[bennice]

When I drove by on my way in, I just smiled at her. I thought about buying her a cup of coffee on the way out.

Even though her opinion is wrong as far as I can tell, I have to give her props for standing out there in the cold by herself to exercise her rights. The country needs more people who are that passionate about their views. They also need to be better educated about the issues, but that's another story.

I did 3 laps around the place desperately looking for one or two things to catch my eye. Specifically, I was looking for a Winchester Model 94 (one to actually shoot, not a safe queen), a Yugo SKS, and perhaps some ammo that wasn't priced stupid high. I left empty handed. :(

[Clint45]

I truly believe that any felons/bad guys with bad intention will not have any issue getting guns..

In places where citizens are denied the right to possess handguns, only criminals, police, and the politically connected have them. Criminals typically get their guns one of two ways: either they burgle the residence of a gun owner, or they purchase what they want from another criminal at triple MSRP. Fences who purchase tools and electronics from burglars often have a very profitable side business selling stolen handguns . . . pay $100, sell for $1000. And if a criminal is highly motivated and has a lathe and machinist skills, they can always start their own gun factory. Criminals will ALWAYS have guns, even in places like NYC, DC, and Chicago where a law-abiding citizen with no criminal record is arbitrarily denied a permit to possess (not carry) without cause.

[ChunkyMonkey]

In places where citizens are denied the right to possess handguns, only criminals, police, and the politically connected have them. Criminals typically get their guns one of two ways: either they burgle the residence of a gun owner, or they purchase what they want from another criminal at triple MSRP. Fences who purchase tools and electronics from burglars often have a very profitable side business selling stolen handguns . . . pay $100, sell for $1000. And if a criminal is highly motivated and has a lathe and machinist skills, they can always start their own gun factory. Criminals will ALWAYS have guns, even in places like NYC, DC, and Chicago where a law-abiding citizen with no criminal record is arbitrarily denied a permit to possess (not carry) without cause.

Very scary!

[Great-Kazoo]

In places where citizens are denied the right to possess handguns, only criminals, police, and the politically connected have them. Criminals typically get their guns one of two ways: either they burgle the residence of a gun owner, or they purchase what they want from another criminal at triple MSRP. Fences who purchase tools and electronics from burglars often have a very profitable side business selling stolen handguns . . . pay $100, sell for $1000. And if a criminal is highly motivated and has a lathe and machinist skills, they can always start their own gun factory. Criminals will ALWAYS have guns, even in places like NYC, DC, and Chicago where a law-abiding citizen with no criminal record is arbitrarily denied a permit to possess (not carry) without cause.


24 hours was the average time to obtain ANY FIREARM in NY, ALLEGEDLY.

[omegalopez]

Where you there when that guy screwed me out of those Pmags ! ! ! !

I was, This one guy had a deal on some Pmags. I Snatched them out of his hands before he could put them on the table. [ROFL2]

[gnihcraes]

About the protester: Could we have posted two armed men next to her, visibly protecting her rights with a sign stating such?

[sroz]

I was, This one guy had a deal on some Pmags. I Snatched them out of his hands before he could put them on the table. [ROFL2]

Should have beat him with your cane. I would have helped you out if not for the fact that he is younger, stronger & faster than me. Maybe I should have tripped him.

[omegalopez]

Should have beat him with your cane. I would have helped you out if not for the fact that he is younger, stronger & faster than me. Maybe I should have tripped him.


[ROFL1] And for the record the seller is a stand up guy. I did have my eye on that cane. Would have never seen the trip. [Beer]

[jtw22]

I got there about 8:30 and walked all the way around the building to find the end of the line and then promptly left.
ended up picking up a Sig 226 in .40 from Jensen's up in Loveland. CBI wait is until Jan 8th at the earliest is what they told me. 13,000 in queue

[OneGuy67]

The state's gun stores have got to run out of inventory sometime!! That is the only way in which CBI is going to catch up!

[Great-Kazoo]

The state's gun stores have got to run out of inventory sometime!! That is the only way in which CBI is going to catch up!

They have, new product is somewhere between here & there. Most items are now "consignment" items.

[Ridge]

About the protester: Could we have posted two armed men next to her, visibly protecting her rights with a sign stating such?

That would have been called intimidation, and rightly so.

[Great-Kazoo]

That would have been called intimidation, and rightly so.

Not as citizens concerned for her safety. That 58th st is notorious for gang bangers, ask any ccw holder, they'll tell ya.

[gnihcraes]

That would have been called intimidation, and rightly so.

I would not intend for it to be "intimidation" - just protection, proving a point. :)

[sroz]

Expect much of the same for the next show this weekend.

[Southbridge]

Was there any 5.45 at this show and if so what was it going for? Thanks, trying to figure out if I should go this weekend!

[sroz]

Was there any 5.45 at this show and if so what was it going for? Thanks, trying to figure out if I should go this weekend!

I didn't make note of 5.45 prices. Overall, OD Green Supply was way over-priced at least for what I'm willing to pay at this time for ammo. Their range 9mm was $369/1000. Ammo-Kan and Ten-X maintained their pre-panic prices. Have no clue if they will maintain that strategy this weekend. I'm sure their cost of re-supply will have an effect.

[Southbridge]

Do you have contact info for either of those dealers? Can't find them on google or here, but that could just be the flu delusion.

[sroz]

I only see the guys selling Ten-X at the Tanners, so don't have contact info for them. If they're there I'll try to remember to get their info. Contact info for Ammo-Kan is

Curt Perry
720-389-8283
Littleton, CO.

[Southbridge]

Thanks!!