Sandy Hook Gun Thread - Multi Merge

[longbow]

Anyone seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_NllT1iDo

[DEAGLER]

Conspiracies!

[UrbanWolf]

Looks like a Benelli super 90 in the trunk... charging handle is on right side, and the shells appears much bigger than any 223 i've seen.

[longbow]

Yeah I can't tell what it is with my craptop computer

[clublights]

yeah I'd call that a shotgun ... no way that is an rifle . you see one shell ejected and it looks like a shotshell to me .

[UrbanWolf]

yeah I'd call that a shotgun ... no way that is an rifle . you see one shell ejected and it looks like a shotshell to me .

If it was a 223 shell, it will be barely visible from the air at night. I obviously saw two relatively large shell ejected and i did not see a mag sticking out.

[CO303]

Looked like a shotgun to me. It's still a conspiricy.

[Ashton]

I said it before and I'll say it again. CIA coverup.

[MarkCO]

Well, the LGSs are out of ARs, but now that it looks like it was 4 handguns used, and a shotgun in the trunk, you should all return the ARs and mags and buy up all of the shotguns and Glocks. [gohome]

[SideShow Bob]

REPOST...........http://www.ar-15.co/threads/77221-Which-gun-was-used

[trlcavscout]

The coroner is lieing, their are ties between this guys dad and the aurora guys dad, their are several recordings of the police catching 3 people as well as video, the imediate response from the big cheese to start banning guns. This is reality tv at its best, wheres it gonna happen next? Christmas eve/day to seal the deal? This shit stinks to high heavens and back again!!! Wanna guess why the gun store was raided again, who else knew what she bought? Watch for the no-knocks to go up.

[trlcavscout]

I said it before and I'll say it again. CIA coverup.

Its not cia

[Great-Kazoo]

Been saying it for some time. BUY that 12 or 20 NOW.

[Ridge]

So where is this coming from?

[rondog]

I bet the TRUTH will never be known, about which gun(s) were used, and how many shooters there were. Too many inconsistencies. And where are the interviews with survivors? We know there were many adults that survived, what did they see? Why no interviews of them?

[SideShow Bob]

So where is this coming from?

Look at the video in the thread that I linked.......

[Bailey Guns]

I've never been one for conspiracies. This one has me thinking, though. Not necessarily any of the videos on YouTube but just the whole timing of it all.

Actually, the Aurora shooting has me thinking more than the CT shooting. By all accounts the Aurora shooter was brilliant and succeeding in a field where most people can't. Then suddenly, without reason, he turns into a whacko. He talks to people, leaves a notebook...huh.

Then the CT shooting. Some of the coincidences seem a little odd if they're true. Not to mention the inconsistencies...everything we were told for at least the first 12 hours turned out to be incorrect with the exception of the location and that a bunch of kids had been shot.

I dunno what it means...but coupled with other events like F&F and Benghazi and so on...let's just say I'm a little more open-minded now. Even my wife, who is very non-political and doesn't follow this sort of thing very often, is asking, "WTF?" And she's a pretty smart woman.

[Ridge]

Look at the video in the thread that I linked.......

I saw police unloading a semi auto 12 gauge shotgun. That doesn't exclude an AR from the rampage.

[King]

Is it possible that the video that showed the shotgun was from another incident. Who knows, something isnt right here.

[wreave]

Looks like a Benelli super 90 in the trunk... charging handle is on right side, and the shells appears much bigger than any 223 i've seen.

Also, look on the stock a few seconds later - there's a shell carrier on the right side. Obviously a shotgun.

[theGinsue]

I posted the link to this video on my FB page. Here's the comment I put with it:



Gun Inconsistencies In The Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting


Folks, watch this video. You can't contest what you see with your own eyes. Federal agents state that 4 HANDGUNS (no rifles - especially no "assault rifles") were found inside the school. You'll see video of police retrieving the shotgun from the trunk of Adam Lanza's car. Federal & state officials now state they also retrieved the AR-15 from Lanza's car too. He DID NOT take it into the school. You'll see video of the coroner stating TODAY (following the federal agents comments about the retrieved firearms inside the school) that all of the students were killed with a rifle. Either there was more than 1 shooter or the coroner is wrong; dead wrong.


Folks, you are being manipulated by both the media and others with a clear anti-gun agenda. They are preying on everyone's emotions by presenting lies as fact. Ask yourself WHY they would lie to us; the answer is closer at hand than most are willing to believe. It's YOUR and MY liberties that we risk losing if we don't wake up and quit accepting lies as truth. Stop being sheep and think for yourselves. Freedom's lost will never be recovered.


I urge EVERYONE to share this and get the information out to as wide an audience as possible. To those who've held anti-gun opinions, look within yourselves to determine why you have these feelings. If it's because of all of the negative information you hear in the media then the truth of information manipulation evident here should cause you to rethink what you "know". Get the word out! SHARE THIS!

[DSB OUTDOORS]

This is all I can say right now. [Bang] [Bang][Bang]

[palepainter]

Something stinks here.....

[ringhilt]

Something stinks here. The story being reported to the public keeps changing. First is was handguns with a rifle found in the trunk. Then the coroner says everyone was killed by the rifle. But police responded in less than 5 minutes. So this nutbag runs in, kills everyone, runs out and places the rifle into the trunk then runs back inside to commit suicide with the handgun???? All in less than 5 minutes. BULLS**T!!!!
I'm not saying conspiracy (yet). but something definitely stinks here. We are not getting the full or correct story. The story keeps changing too much and too fast. And what came out of that trunk was NOT and AR15. Charing handle on the right side is something else. Can't tell what but it is not an AR of anysort. Yet the AR15 is what they are blaming.
Bottom line is something stinks. We need to push for the correct story.

[Guylee]

Strange things are afoot at the Circle K...

[theGinsue]

Question about .223/5.56 ammunition ballistics:
According to statements made by the coroner in the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting, the bullets all stayed in the bodies.

If, as some would have us believe, an AR was used in this crime something seems wrong, ballistically speaking.

Typical publicly available .223/5.56 ammo is FMJ, or even soft point; right? (I know that AR's come in a variety of calibers, but given .223/5.56 is by far the most common configuration, I feel safe in assuming this is the caliber of the AR owned by Adam Lanza's mother).

Without being too graphic, what is the likelihood of the rounds not passing through the bodies of your average kindergartener?

I'd love to hear from those with first-hand experience in firearm wounds.

[kidicarus13]

Assuming conspiracy theory, why would "they" even allow the medical examiner to field questions?

[Rooskibar03]

Hold onto your tin foil hats boys. Some of you may know there is a giant scandal and lawsuit brewing over LIBOR (London Interbank Offered Rate, details here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal)

A few months ago you may recall hearing a story about a nanny in NYC who killed the two children in her charge and then tried to commit suicide by stabbing herself repeatly in the gut and then slitting her own throat.

Well the nanny just happen to work for the head of CNBC who broke the story of the scandal 24 hours before ( http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/cnbc-exec-kevin-krim-s-children-murdered-1-day-after-cnbc-reports)

Now it just so also turns out that both James Holmes and Adam Lanzas fathers are set to testify in the lawsuit around this scandal. Sadly the article on the Washington examiner from the 16th has gone 404.

Someone get Jesse Ventura on this one. Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.

(I'm not saying I buy into the conspiracy but does seem a little to convenient if one were trying to push and agenda and shut down a very large scandal at once)

[clublights]

Strange things foot at the Circle K . Bill and teds.... HA ...

Ok now to be serious ...

why go after the families ? if they can pull off these things.. why not just go for the dad's ? I men they have not ended the threat ... these guys could still talk to congress.. the story could still be broken ..

[TAR31]

What got to me about the changes in the story are how you can be dead on accurate about some details and way in left field on others. first reports were a Glock and Sig used in the school, Bushmaster found in the car. Then it changes to BM used for all the murders. How the hell can you get the specific makes of all the firearms correct but the location of where they were found completely wrong?

[theGinsue]

why go after the families ? if they can pull off these things.. why not just go for the dad's ? I men they have not ended the threat ... these guys could still talk to congress.. the story could still be broken ..


You go after the LIBOR witnesses and you show your hand. You go after their families, by somehow getting them implicated as the culprit in something as horrendous as mass shootings, and you send a clear msg to the witness as well as discredit the witness by association.

[Ridge]

Two biggest sellers this Christmas? AR-15s and Reynolds Wrap

[sellersm]

You go after the LIBOR witnesses and you show your hand. You go after their families, by somehow getting them implicated as the culprit in something as horrendous as mass shootings, and you send a clear msg to the witness as well as discredit the witness by association.

It's called intimidation. Classic strong-arm techniques that have stood the test of time...

[sellersm]

Personally, I think it was Col. Mustard, in the kitchen, with the lead pipe! [Coffee]

[dwalker460]

Hold onto your tin foil hats boys. Some of you may know there is a giant scandal and lawsuit brewing over LIBOR (London Interbank Offered Rate, details here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal)

A few months ago you may recall hearing a story about a nanny in NYC who killed the two children in her charge and then tried to commit suicide by stabbing herself repeatly in the gut and then slitting her own throat.

Well the nanny just happen to work for the head of CNBC who broke the story of the scandal 24 hours before ( http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/cnbc-exec-kevin-krim-s-children-murdered-1-day-after-cnbc-reports)

Now it just so also turns out that both James Holmes and Adam Lanzas fathers are set to testify in the lawsuit around this scandal. Sadly the article on the Washington examiner from the 16th has gone 404.

Someone get Jesse Ventura on this one. Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.

(I'm not saying I buy into the conspiracy but does seem a little to convenient if one were trying to push and agenda and shut down a very large scandal at once)


.5 degrees of separation perhaps?

[Zundfolge]

Assuming conspiracy theory, why would "they" even allow the medical examiner to field questions?

Because he's one of "them" and his press conference has once and for all time established as absolute fact that the shooter used an AR15 to kill the children. Now anyone that questions any of the facts surrounding this case are "conspiracy nuts".

Kind of brilliant if you think about it. ANY form of malfeasance on the part of government can be swept under the rug by simply comparing anyone that suggests The State is made up of anyone but boy scouts and angels to people that believe the moon landing was faked and reptilian aliens secretly run the world.

The death of truth is now complete.

[trlcavscout]

libor scandal connection to the shooters a hoax? Anybody seen anything credible form a credible resource stateting the truth?

[ChadAmberg]

Something stinks here. The story being reported to the public keeps changing. First is was handguns with a rifle found in the trunk. Then the coroner says everyone was killed by the rifle. But police responded in less than 5 minutes. So this nutbag runs in, kills everyone, runs out and places the rifle into the trunk then runs back inside to commit suicide with the handgun???? All in less than 5 minutes. BULLS**T!!!!
I'm not saying conspiracy (yet). but something definitely stinks here. We are not getting the full or correct story. The story keeps changing too much and too fast. And what came out of that trunk was NOT and AR15. Charing handle on the right side is something else. Can't tell what but it is not an AR of anysort. Yet the AR15 is what they are blaming.
Bottom line is something stinks. We need to push for the correct story.


I heard it took 20 min from the call to first responders showing up. Probably was a Saiga-12 in the trunk but that means of course it was an "AR with clips".

[Ridge]

I heard it took 20 min from the call to first responders showing up. Probably was a Saiga-12 in the trunk but that means of course it was an "AR with clips".

In the video it looked like a tube mag fed shotgun. Could have been a Benelli, could have been a Rem 1100/11-87, or a Mossberg 930

[HBARleatherneck]

In the video it looked like a tube mag fed shotgun. Could have been a Benelli, could have been a Rem 1100/11-87, or a Mossberg 930

thats what it looked like to me. obviously right side charging. the barrel looks like a tube fed shotgun. i agree with ridgerunner.

[Bailey Guns]

I've been able to verify only:

There is a congressional investigation into the LIBOR scandal
Apparently the fathers of Holmes and Lanza work for companies who might be connected to the scandal

I haven't found anything from a mainstream/reputable source that either was to testify in the LIBOR hearings. I haven't seen a source where this information could be confirmed or denied.

[Zundfolge]

I've been able to verify only:

There is a congressional investigation into the LIBOR scandal
Apparently the fathers of Holmes and Lanza work for companies who might be connected to the scandal

I haven't found anything from a mainstream/reputable source that either was to testify in the LIBOR hearings. I haven't seen a source where this information could be confirmed or denied.
Even if both Holmes and Lanza's fathers were to testify that doesn't prove anything other than we're talking about upper middle class, college educated professionals (which is the class of people that most of these mass killers seems to come from).

I've read that there are a LOT of "high functioning sociopaths" in the upper levels of most large corporations and in the high tech sector. Since mental illness is often hereditary, maybe all that does is add to the psychological profile of the mass killer.

So I have to dismiss the Libor scandal conspiracy as nonsense, but there is clearly something not kosher with how the Sandy Hook shooting is being investigated and reported on and it looks to me like there is misinformation being disseminated to push a political agenda.

[longbow]

My personal tin foil hat scenario was that maybe the monster didn't even use a black gun but instead the handguns and that maybe the facts got turned around to fit a political agenda. I see there is a hell of a lot more here..................

[rondog]

Misinformation?

Political agendas?

From OUR government and The Annointed One?

Balderdash!

<insert sarcasm smiley here>

I wouldn't put ANYTHING past those rotten bastards in Washington. I'd LOVE to see all the Government's lies and coverups suddenly dragged out into the sunlight for all to see, but this country would probably collapse into chaos. God only knows what The People have been lied to about since The Civil War, let alone just the last 100 years, or even since Roswell.

[Byte Stryke]

why so many handguns? Why are we expected to believe not a single one was used
What happened to the (reported) second shooter that was captured in the nearby woods?
Why would you drag out a guy in a Lab coat playing the "M.E." Except to turn the previous story of the AR in the trunk into an assault rifle killing Babies.
why would said "M.E" Claim something 90% of us know is utter BS... there is no way all of the bullets were in the bodies unless every single one was a ricochet or at minimum 250 yards.

as far as reputable sources... in the kingdom of lies, truth is treason.

[rondog]

Yeah, 6 year old kids are pretty small. Just my opinion, but I'd think that .223 bullets, even hollowpoints, would zip right through their little bodies. And standard FMJ's would probably go through 2 or 3 of them. Of course I have no experience with bullets and bodies, just my imagination. I just don't see a child's body stopping high-powered bullets that easily. But the wounds would be horrifying, I'm sure.

Shooting children in a school, my God. And if it turns out there's ANY kind of coverup, conspiracy, or anything besides a solo nutcase acting alone, there had better be some serious heads rolling, or things could get ugly. For someone to do something like this for a "political agenda" like gun control is just unthinkable, but if someone did......

[hammer03]

high-powered bullets
I thought his AR was in .223?

/sarcasm

[Byte Stryke]

I thought his AR was in .223?

/sarcasm


pffft ask and democrat, you can slap a scope on it and you have a sniper rifle that can shoot down high altitude airliners

[Ashton]

A standard 5.56 XM193 round would tear through a child... Unless it hit bone. XM193 is the NON STEEL CORE version. As a visual aid here's a video with ballistic gelatin designed to show wound cavities from firearms.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBqjAyhs56M

[WETWRKS]

Seems that the confusion has been solved...

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

[Fmedges]

What is an ar15 style of rifle? It either is or isn't.

[dwalker460]

So now we need to place a bounty on the head of that lying sack of shit ME for lying to the press to meet the liberal agenda.

[bryjcom]

Apparently 4 handguns were used and the rifle was left in the car. They keep calling it a AR15 rifle but I saw the video of them pulling it out of the car and they cleared it by pulling on the right side of the rifle as if it was an AK.

More fucking lies from the media. I can't take this shit anymore!!

[SAnd]

That video is from a report broadcast December 15. That is NOT a current report. At least that is what it says just below the vidio.

[rondog]

Nothing's been solved, nothing's been proven, nothing's been exhibited, nothing regarding the weapons has been confirmed in any way. Not that I've heard or seen.

He used his mothers guns. Isn't there ANYBODY in that state that knew her and what guns she had? Her ex-husband? Her other son?

Isn't there any security camera footage from the school, showing him on the campus, and what he was carrying/using? Is there any proof AT ALL that he used, or even had, any kind of AR-15 type rifle? Words from some medical examiner or detective mean shit, where's the photographic proof?

This whole thing stinks to heaven and reeks of a coverup of some kind, but why? Innocent children and teachers were killed, who's hiding the facts and why? Nobody's asking for gory details or photos, buy why can't anyone confirm the simple details of what kind(s) of weapon(s) were used, and how many rounds were fired? Why is that such a mystery?

Just because somebody "said" something in a statement to a bunch of microphone waving morons doesn't mean shit. Where's the PROOF? It's fucking simple - have a news conference, with the weapons on a table, and hold them up one at a time and identify them and if they were used or not.

Don't recall seeing any details like that from the Aurora theater shooting either.

[USAFGopherMike]

No details = they can make it up and feed the dipshit liberal gun-hating media whatever they want = the libs in power get their next bit of legislation shitting on the constitution.

[WETWRKS]

Even if they had a news conference with weapons on a table...who really can prove that those were the weapons that were used?

[Byte Stryke]

Take Adam Lanza into this school, cap him out, Make it a suicide. Shoot the place up, kill anyone that sees you, Dump a bunch of guns everywhere.
Get your butts BACK in the van, get out and pick up Walt. Walt, you hang back in the woods and be a lookout.
Oh, Walt, wear something more suited to hiding in the woods than those damned pink pants.
Everyone meet back here after.
DO NOT Flash Creds unless you get nabbed by the local PD.



Just a theory

[dwalker460]

Starting to look this way.
Can understand no video of the actual shootings, but we have not even been given the video of the guy entering the school.
Theres not going to be a trial, so no reason not to release the actual number of rounds fired, which guns exactly were used, etc.
Who was the guy they hauled out of the woods? Anyone seen/heard anything about him after the pics of him being led from the woods in handcuffs?

Where is the clamor by the press for the truth and the details of this story? Anyone find it interesting that its been backburnered?

[rondog]

Wait, there was someone else too? Someone "hauled out of the woods?". I guess I missed that part..... WTF is going on there?

[Aloha_Shooter]

Who cares what guns were used? The point is that HE was evil, HE was intent on doing harm to the kids, HE shouldn't have had access to the guns. That has no bearing on MY danger to society or MY right to have access to my guns.

[alxone]

Wait, there was someone else too? Someone "hauled out of the woods?". I guess I missed that part..... WTF is going on there?
gov versions goes something like this "move along nothing to see here "[Metal]
press version goes like this "assault rifle goes crazy again and kills children " or "crazed gunman kills children in mass shooting " [panic]
tin foil hat version
dad is going to testify against banks (trillions at stake ) , gov programs kid , kid goes loco , my starts paperwork to get kid locked up in the puzzle factory , kid kills mom in her sleep , kid goes to the place that mom volunteers at full time (in this case ) and kills a bunch of kids but only because the gov programed him too [tinhat]

the whole subject is wearing me out . everywhere i turn its more people worried about mass shootings . sounds about as productive as worrying about a plane falling on my house . [hammer]

[alxone]

oh yeah he may have not done it but been killed and someone else did it and planted everything [tinhat][hammer]
people are getting crazy with it for sure [Bang]

[griebel303]

It's such a crock our government can never just be honest with the people of the United States. Put your bullshit agendas to the side and just lay it out there. Just like Benghazi, there still is no real truth, just people silently stepping out the back of the room.

[rondog]

Who cares what guns were used? The point is that HE was evil, HE was intent on doing harm to the kids, HE shouldn't have had access to the guns. That has no bearing on MY danger to society or MY right to have access to my guns.

Absolutely right! But, the issue is, what's the truth? Why are they repressing the truth, and how much of what's being released is bullshit that's being used to further someone's anti-gun agenda?

Everytime a nut with a gun does something horrible, it seems to trigger a disinformation campaign by the authorities and media to make people believe that ALL gunowners are nuts, and are just waiting for our own chance to do something horrible with our tools of mass-murder. That's all that semi-automatic weapons and high capacity magazines are good for, right? To kill and maim as many innocent people as possible, as quickly as possible?

If there WAS an AR-15 at that school, and it was used, then let's see the damned thing and some proof. If no video exists, there would still be empty casings and plenty of witnesses to verify it. If there WASN'T one there and one WASN'T used, then they need to come clean about it, admit it, and STFU about it.

Tell the goddamn truth about what really happened, and stop using the tragedy to try and push some agenda about banning "assault rifles", or "high-capacity magazines", or "purchases of large amounts of ammo", or some other such bullshit. Is that too much for the American People to ask?

At this point, we don't really know if he actually used an AR-15, "four handguns", or maybe nothing but a Browning Buckmark .22 pistol and a pocketful of magazines. That's the real issue, is WE don't know what was really used, and THEY aren't saying or providing any proof.

[KestrelBike]

Amen, Rondog.

[R&S]

Rondog said it right!

[BushMasterBoy]

And Obama promised us "transparency" in government! Maybe they will publish an "FBI" report...redacted of course!

[USAFGopherMike]

How do we call them out? How do we force them to be honest with the American public? How do we hold the left dog media accountable?

[rondog]

How do we call them out? How do we force them to be honest with the American public? How do we hold the left dog media accountable?

Very good questions. I have no answers or suggestions. But I'm damned sick and tired of this "us vs. them" shit.

[colorider]

It's a giant clusterfuck of govt agenda. Same with the firefighters shooting. And wtf is with them pinning it all on a " bushmaster ar-15 assault rifle".? Both shootings with the same model rifle Fucking unlikely but it sure sounds good on the news. I'm so tired of the fabricated bullshit. The libtards are eating this shit up and adding fuel to their cause. It's like we are being ran over by a govt bullshit train. Obama has forgot this is the USA. Not the U.S of Obama. Fuckimg dictator.

[rondog]

It's a giant clusterfuck of govt agenda. Same with the firefighters shooting. And wtf is with them pinning it all on a " bushmaster ar-15 assault rifle".? Both shootings with the same model rifle Fucking unlikely but it sure sounds good on the news. I'm so tired of the fabricated bullshit. The libtards are eating this shit up and adding fuel to their cause. It's like we are being ran over by a govt bullshit train. Obama has forgot this is the USA. Not the U.S of Obama. Fuckimg dictator.

Yeah, expect "Bushmaster" to become the new catch-all name for evil killing machines. I wonder who will be the first to write about the "evil Bushmaster AK-47"......

[ChadAmberg]

I think someone should put in FOIA requests for make/model and most definitely serial # (so it can be independently confirmed) for the various weapons used.

[Dave_L]

I think someone should put in FOIA requests for make/model and most definitely serial # (so it can be independently confirmed) for the various weapons used.

And then make sure to post every 2 hours so we know you didn't disappear. ;)

[Byte Stryke]

Wait, there was someone else too? Someone "hauled out of the woods?". I guess I missed that part..... WTF is going on there?


the two guys in the van picked him up after the CIA had him released.

[Graves]

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495

Hmm...

[blacklabel]

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495

Hmm...

But the coroner stated that all victims were shot by a firearm using .223 ammunition. Complex indeed.

[sroz]

I can't tell you how many times I have seen this December 15 newscast posted as if it's the latest. It's old & erroneous news. There is newer & hopefully more reliable info out there.

[Rust_shackleford]

If the Corporate government funded media says so it's so!

[sroz]

It's a gun ban liberal whitch hunt. This bullshit " bushmaster ar-15 " media blitz has me fuming. Fabricated media bullshit. Spun and twisted stories in order to push an agenda. And it's working.

It's working cause we stay 2 weeks behind them. We keep harping on the shit that was disproven a couple of weeks ago.

[hatidua]

Conversation inside media newsroom:

"Now that AR-15's have been accepted by the masses to be evil incarnate that we can get banned, let's move to demonize pistols, let's tweak the message as needed,.....yeah, handguns, that's what did it!"

[Tinelement]

Soooo is there something new here from this video a few days ago???

ju_NllT1iDo

[sroz]

OMG. You talking bout that shotgun in the trunk?

[Ashton]

"confirmed 4 handguns found in school today one ar style weapon in the trunk of the car"

LAWL. How does that work if "all of the children were shot with the long rifle caliber"

COVERUP! (Doesn't have to be CIA. Just a damn gov coverup.

[BPTactical]

Jeeez, you guys are slow.

Anybody else find it curious that on the day Feinstein releases her proposed points of her legislation that now clearly states "Handguns" we see a questionable media presentation demonizing handguns?

I would have thought the Zimmerman media cluster would have lernt ya'll better[Coffee]

[Byte Stryke]

"confirmed 4 handguns found in school today one ar style weapon in the trunk of the car"

LAWL. How does that work if "all of the children were shot with the long rifle caliber"

COVERUP! (Doesn't have to be CIA. Just a damn gov coverup.

when are you amateurs going to learn, CIA Kills other citizens, NSA Kills ours.

sheesh

[DocMedic]

Don't know if this is a repost but;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGn4o1Lb6L0

[Big Wall]

I guess that makes the Coroner a lying sack.

[splogan]

but the AR was there and it's scary so it needs to be ban to save the kids blah blah or some liberal crap

[PsyKo]

will not slow our steady decline into the shitter one bit.

[onebadfx4]

The coroner should be charged with making a false official statement. Lying sack of crap. Should also have his license revoked due to the fact he obviously has no cluse what he is doing.

[BPTactical]

will not slow our steady decline into the shitter one bit.

^^^this

It doesn't matter.
Nobody will ever investigate, the damage is done.
It doesn't suit the narrative of the day.

Hell, we very likely have an illegal Pres and yet few care

[fitz19d]

I believe this is an old video. Said "On 11th, the Tuesday of this week." IE this is from December when all the conflicting info was flying around... Ergo as much as I wish it would true I doubt it means shit.

[sniper7]

You can be sure no rifle was used. It is why obama didnt address it during all of his commandments.

[GlockDog47]

Funny how things change. I hate the media, they never have it right. What ever it takes to get the story.

[BREATHER]

Realize this, banning "military assualt weapons" has nothing to do with saving the children, Mr. Obama exploited those poor children in CT. And having those children with him when he signed the executive orders was grandstanding.

"THEY", all the ultra rich and the fish in power, who back Hussein, know that common Amercian people are really getting sick of all thats going on with the power brokers and the economy. "THEY" want subjects, not citizens and taking away the means to put down tyranny(a serious obligation according to the U.S. Consitution). "THEY" don't want responsible armed citizens with the proper tools to protect the Constitution......

[Clint45]

Nobody knows for sure. LOTS of conflicting stories, and no-one has confirmed this. I wouldn't be surprised if it were true though.

[zteknik]

Nobody knows for sure. LOTS of conflicting stories, and no-one has confirmed this. I wouldn't be surprised if it were true though.

It's like trying to get the whole story on who shot Kennedy......

[Gman]

Looks like old video really close to the shooting. There was so much misinformation flying at the time, I don't put much into this clip.

Yeah, I said it, "clip".

[rockhound]

If you shoot more than one person you must have had an assault rifle

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

If you shoot more than one person you must have had an assault rifle

Or if its a black weapon.

on a side note anyone that leaked information that was false, such as he creepy coroner should be held accountable. Wait wtf am I thinking, am I drunk this early? It doesn't work with their agenda. Mfers.

[HoneyBadger]

Doesn't matter, the damage is already done. Like if a prosecutor says something inadmissible in court... The defendant or the judge will object and sustain the objection, but what has been said was heard by the jury and could change their perspective of things... whether it was true or not is irrelevant.

[cstone]

As of January 18, 2013, from a statement posted by the Connecticut Department of Emergency Services & Public Protection:

Seized inside the school:
1. Bushmaster .223--model XM15-E23
2. Glock 10mm handgun
3. SIG-Sauer P226 9mm handgun




Seized inside the school:
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine

#2. Glock 10 mm handgun

#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun









http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226

[alxone]

like others have pointed out , the damage has been done and the weapons used matter not at this point . the left have all they need to scare the public into damn near anything they want .

[Great-Kazoo]

Doesn't matter, the damage is already done. Like if a prosecutor says something inadmissible in court... The defendant or the judge will object and sustain the objection, but what has been said was heard by the jury and could change their perspective of things... whether it was true or not is irrelevant.

So tell me and the jury Mr. Honey badger. Do you Still beat you Wife? No more questions your Honor.

[KestrelBike]

Not to sound sexist, but really the mom sought out and bought a 10mm Glock? Or even an ar-15? If you have a Glock 10mm, you gotta be a serious gun enthusiast, and then you don't even lock them up?? Come the f*** on, this shit is unreal. I don't buy the story for a second.

[alxone]

Not to sound sexist, but really the mom sought out and bought a 10mm Glock? Or even an ar-15? If you have a Glock 10mm, you gotta be a serious gun enthusiast, and then you don't even lock them up?? Come the f*** on, this shit is unreal. I don't buy the story for a second.im no super genius but im gonna go with no ammount of locked up guns will prevent someone from taking them if they kill you in your sleep .

[HBARleatherneck]

delete

[Goodburbon]

Glock 20 does not equal gun enthusiast. A friend of mine bought a 20 as his second weapon. Knew.next to nothing about guns at the time.

[JMBD2112]

http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226

Just saw this on FB

[birddog]

Looks official.

[HBARleatherneck]

i predict your thread will be a dupe.

lets see....gay title....check

blind link.....check.

people make a real title and label the link.

and of course there are 10 other threads you could have added this to.

[osok-308]

Not to sound sexist, but really the mom sought out and bought a 10mm Glock? Or even an ar-15? If you have a Glock 10mm, you gotta be a serious gun enthusiast

^^^ This, it seems odd that she had a Glock 20mm (uncommon caliber), a Sig Sauer (relatively expensive pistol), and a Bushmaster AR-15 (on the expensive side), and a Siaga 12 gauge in the car (another uncommon and expensive gun) A single woman with this odd assortment of guns? Seems sketchy.

[blacklabel]

Well now that the government has cleared up the confusion, I feel all warm and fuzzy.

[mtnrider]

Already posted in the "No Assualt Weapon used" thread

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/84299-NBC-Admits-No-Assault-Rifle-used-at-Sandy-Hook

[splogan]

I would like that as my only collection. Seriously though, a 10mm would be nice to have.

[Monky]

You know I really question the education of people when they can't even get shit right on a forum..

- sent by the free-range electronic weasel attached to my hip.

[Great-Kazoo]

You know I really question the education of people when they can't even get shit right on a forum..

- sent by the free-range electronic weasel attached to my hip.

YES! Low 5 homez.

[spyder]

You know I really question the education of people when they can't even get shit right on a forum..

- sent by the free-range electronic weasel attached to my hip.
LOL Dick head!!!! LOLOLOLOLLLOopijiopqeruighqeru -]i

[TEAMRICO]

Damn, now they will come after Saiga 12s!!!!!

[JMBD2112]

i predict your thread will be a dupe.

lets see....gay title....check

blind link.....check.

people make a real title and label the link.

and of course there are 10 other threads you could have added this to.

HBAR, I aplogize, I should've spent more time out of my day at work to search the entire forum so I could live up to your expectations. Please forgive me.....or you could just get over it

[Ridge]

^^^ This, it seems odd that she had a Glock 20mm (uncommon caliber), a Sig Sauer (relatively expensive pistol), and a Bushmaster AR-15 (on the expensive side), and a Siaga 12 gauge in the car (another uncommon and expensive gun) A single woman with this odd assortment of guns? Seems sketchy.

It wasn't a Saiga 12. The article got it wrong. It was clearly a tube fed semi auto shotgun.

[spyder]

Yay! This has become 13 pages of shit, that no one needs to hear more about, and no one will more than likely know the truth about.