View Full Version : over 10,000 in the que for background checks
This is nuts
Longest Wait : 71:40 Applications Waiting : 10101
mtnrider
12-22-2012, 17:54
I bought a pistol this morning at 8am and I was like number 8100. This is just nuts. We won't ever see this on the liberal news media but to me this speaks volumes as to what "We the People" really want.
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I'll be adding my name to the list Monday morning. Hopefully I'll be cleared by next weekend so I can pick up my new toy.
SideShow Bob
12-22-2012, 18:27
: [/B]10101
10101 = 21 ???
Punkface
12-22-2012, 18:46
I put in my background check today. My lowers are still being shipped.
Rooskibar03
12-22-2012, 19:04
Man if I want something for New Years better get my name on the list this weekend.
I wonder how many people are maxing out there credit cards buying all this stuff...and then going to file bancruptcy on them, because you know it all got lost in a horrible boating accident. Lol it was 10,132 here about 20 minutes ago, the checks from early wed are just coming back. Its really amazing.
HBARleatherneck
12-22-2012, 19:11
how many checks are there typically in a month or year? to put all of this into perspective.
trlcavscout
12-22-2012, 19:14
Man if I want something for New Years better get my name on the list this weekend.
Probably to late for that. With the gun shows and short holiday weeks. I have been in the que a few days now.
omegalopez
12-22-2012, 19:15
This is nuts
Longest Wait : 71:40 Applications Waiting : 10101
WOW!!!!!
clublights
12-22-2012, 19:34
how exactly does that " three day rule" apply ?
seeing as the wait time listed is only 20 mins short of that ?
Great-Kazoo
12-22-2012, 19:48
Time from Submittal of 4473.
clublights
12-22-2012, 19:50
well yeah I get that part ..
so at the end of the 3 working days they just have to hand you the gun right ?
will they run the 4473 later or do they have to throw them out ?
if they do run them after and a prohibited person got a gun will they go knocking on doors to arrest em ?
I'm sure some of this is unknown because I don't think this has ever happened before ....
Great-Kazoo
12-22-2012, 20:16
well yeah I get that part ..
so at the end of the 3 working days they just have to hand you the gun right ?
will they run the 4473 later or do they have to throw them out ?
if they do run them after and a prohibited person got a gun will they go knocking on doors to arrest em ?
I'm sure some of this is unknown because I don't think this has ever happened before ....
BIGTIME, only now the media / .gov would use that incident to verify banning them. AFTER ALL EVEN FELONS can Buy Guns!
Bailey Guns
12-22-2012, 20:32
well yeah I get that part ..
so at the end of the 3 working days they just have to hand you the gun right ?
will they run the 4473 later or do they have to throw them out ?
if they do run them after and a prohibited person got a gun will they go knocking on doors to arrest em ?
I'm sure some of this is unknown because I don't think this has ever happened before ....
No...it's from the time the FFL receives a "Delayed" response from NICS. Once that happens, the 3 day clock starts running on the following day.
Q: What steps must be followed by an FFL prior to transferring a firearm subject to the requirements of the Brady law? The following steps must be followed prior to transferring a firearm:
The licensee must have the transferee complete and sign ATF Form 4473, Firearms Transaction Record.
The licensee must verify the identity of the transferee through a government-issued photo identification.
The licensee must contact NICS through either the FBI or a State point of contact (POC). The licensee initially will get either a “proceed” or “delayed” response from NICS. If the licensee gets a “proceed” response, the firearm may be transferred if there is no additional State waiting period. If the licensee gets a “delayed response” it indicates the transaction is in “open” status and that more research is required prior to a NICS “proceed” or “denied” response. If the licensee gets a “delayed” response and there is no additional response from the FBI or POC, the licensee may transfer the firearm after 3 business days have elapsed. Of course, the licensee must still comply with any waiting period requirements under State law. FFLs contacting the FBI directly will receive information from the FBI indicating when the 3 business days time period elapses on “delayed” transactions.
clublights
12-22-2012, 20:48
No...it's from the time the FFL receives a "Delayed" response from NICS. Once that happens, the 3 day clock starts running on the following day.
AH I should have read that a bit better...
so you could sit in the que for "weeks" before they even give the delayed response correct ?
BPTactical
12-22-2012, 22:16
10101
You ARE Bi............nary[LOL]
I knew there was a subliminal message in your signature line after adding the "firm" reference[smilesex]
SideShow Bob
12-22-2012, 22:39
You ARE Bi............nary[LOL]
I knew there was a subliminal message in your signature line after adding the "firm" reference[smilesex]
1.5 million comedians out of work, and you are TRYING to be funny...........
wow, that is insane. the more these idiots push for gun control, the more guns that end up in the hands of all of us crazy people.....well they think we are crazy, but we are merely standard citizens who simply value our rights.
BPTactical
12-22-2012, 23:46
Do you think any of the Pollytickians are paying attention?
The message this sends is damn compelling.
I think anyone voting to ban any firearm could be detramental to a political career. We have a Dem Gov and a Dem congress in CO, I wonder why the politicians aren't being interviewed on the massive gun sales this past week?
Do you think any of the Pollytickians are paying attention?
The message this sends is damn compelling.
Do you think any of the Pollytickians are paying attention?
The message this sends is damn compelling.
doubt it, the below is a copy and paste from the cbi site they don't even want to acknowledge it...
CBI cannot speculate on the reasoning behind this weekend’s surge as staff simply processes the requests, and has no interaction with customers.
Great-Kazoo
12-22-2012, 23:58
Do you think any of the Pollytickians are paying attention?
The message this sends is damn compelling.
I'm sure more than one board member has direct line to johnny H.
Have to give credit to the CBI workers, I have been watching the numbers go down since 2100hrs. someone is there knocking the checks out.
Have to give credit to the CBI workers, I have been watching the numbers go down since 2100hrs. someone is there knocking the checks out.
it has to be frustrating that no matter how many you do the number in que just continues to grow.
ChunkyMonkey
12-23-2012, 00:11
Job security [Beer] We have someone who works w/ CBI ICHC dept on this forum. I have the feeling we wont be seeing him for awhile.
BPTactical
12-23-2012, 00:51
I think anyone voting to ban any firearm could be detramental to a political career. We have a Dem Gov and a Dem congress in CO, I wonder why the politicians aren't being interviewed on the massive gun sales this past week?
You get a cookie. Gun Control is political suicide.
One would think they realize this as after the 94 ban every Congress critter that voted "Yay" got the "Nay" in the mid terms.
Or they are so well entrenched they don't care.......
Batteriesnare
12-23-2012, 09:32
How's CBI doing today?
Demodave
12-23-2012, 10:26
Longest Wait : 84:41
Applications Waiting : 9924
9:26am
doubt it, the below is a copy and paste from the cbi site they don't even want to acknowledge it...
CBI cannot speculate on the reasoning behind this weekend’s surge as staff simply processes the requests, and has no interaction with customers.
sounds to me like CBI is acknowledging it but will not give any comments on the cause. That is perfectly fine, they are there to run checks not make political statements. Anyone with 2 brain cells to knows why there was a surge.
Anyway, it is a compelling statement if these are new people getting guns. Some regular on this site running out & getting their Nth AR is not a big statement. Too bad there is no real way to know for sure. I do know that one person asked me where to get a lower (his first) and asked about his 10-22 mags, this is not all repeat purchasers.
Lets assume
2500 backgaround per day per state * 8th day since tragedy * 50 state = 1 mil background check. [rockon]
Circuits
12-23-2012, 12:09
Longest Wait : 73:36
Applications Waiting : 9910
11:08
I submitted on on Wed at ~1830 came back today ~ 0640
hollohas
12-23-2012, 13:31
You get a cookie. Gun Control is political suicide.
One would think they realize this as after the 94 ban every Congress critter that voted "Yay" got the "Nay" in the mid terms.
Or they are so well entrenched they don't care.......
Adding trillions to the debt, high unemployment, etc. used to be political suicide as well. Yet, those fools all got voted back. I think their memories are too short to remember what happened after 94. They will do it again.
Do you think any of the Pollytickians are paying attention?
The message this sends is damn compelling.
I doubt it. they are experts at twisting reality and dodging the facts.
Does anyone have any idea about the numbers? Nationally and statewide?
KestrelBike
12-23-2012, 22:48
Does anyone have any idea about the numbers? Nationally and statewide?
I'd be curious to know how many of the thousands of checks have resulted in denials.
sneakerd
12-23-2012, 22:51
Very, very few at the Firing Line.
mtnrider
12-23-2012, 22:54
I'd be curious to know how many of the thousands of checks have resulted in denials.
I would guess very very few. They know who they are and are not going to try and buy a gun legally, hence gun laws won't work.
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I'd be curious to know how many of the thousands of checks have resulted in denials.
I have been denied in the past, week later get a letter in the mail saying after further review..... So out of the very few denials there are how many are actual denials.
BPTactical
12-23-2012, 23:04
I used to get the big "D" until I started putting my ssn on these 4473. Always got the approval from 45 minutes to 3 days after the initial D.
Turned out there was some guy in Aurora hanging paper with the same name.
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2012, 23:16
You get a cookie. Gun Control is political suicide.
One would think they realize this as after the 94 ban every Congress critter that voted "Yay" got the "Nay" in the mid terms.
Or they are so well entrenched they don't care.......
D) Or they are so well entrenched they don't care.
lead_magnet
12-24-2012, 03:22
Where are you guys finding the numbers at? I would enjoy torturing the piss out of myself by watching them go down, maybe.
Byte Stryke
12-24-2012, 05:08
Do you think any of the Pollytickians are paying attention?
The message this sends is damn compelling.
Jim, we need to do something to spur spending and stimulate the economy.
Bob, I think you are right.... how do we get a ton of people to go out and panic buy 3 years of goods in the next few days?
Jim, I have an Idea, Pull a false flag attack; I know some guys with Camouflage and a white van. Then we get Barry to mention 'gun ban' on TV.
Great-Kazoo
12-24-2012, 08:47
Jim, we need to do something to spur spending and stimulate the economy.
Bob, I think you are right.... how do we get a ton of people to go out and panic buy 3 years of goods in the next few days?
Jim, I have an Idea, Pull a false flag attack; I know some guys with Camouflage and a white van. Then we get Barry to mention 'gun ban' on TV.
Mass run on the LDS store AND every food storage place on line, supply and DEMAND
Anyone know how backdated the checks are currently - has anyone received a call this AM from their dealer saying they're ready to go?
Saw on another post this morning that it's at 99 hrs. They also stated 99 is the highest number they post, so it could be a bit higher. Hoping one of the ffls can provide more insight.
Does anyone know if that is 99 consecutive hours from the time of submission, or is that 99 working hours for the CBI etc?
Aren't they required by law to transfer ownership of the forearms at 72 hours?
No...it's from the time the FFL receives a "Delayed" response from NICS. Once that happens, the 3 day clock starts running on the following day.
I got a call late this morning for the paperwork I did around 4 pm on Thursday. There were about 6,400 ahead of me in the computer.
muddywings
12-26-2012, 15:03
I just filled out my BGC at my local FFL for a Moss930 that finally came in. She told me that it would be 4-5 days (they are not open on the weekend) and they are showing 99 hour wait time HOWEVER, she says the system doesn't go higher than 99.
I really wanted to shoot that sucker over the holidays. :(
I think this clearly shows that if AR-15s are suddenly criminalized there are a LOT of citizens who have no intention of turning them in. After all, why pay triple what your rifle is worth shortly after intent to ban them is announced?
ChunkyMonkey
12-26-2012, 15:23
I think this clearly shows that if AR-15s are suddenly criminalized there are a LOT of citizens who have no intention of turning them in. After all, why pay triple what your rifle is worth shortly after intent to ban them is announced?
In Australia, it's estimated only 30% got turned in once the mandatory kicked in.
In Australia, it's estimated only 30% got turned in once the mandatory kicked in.
And after the ban in Australia happened, what happened to their crime rate? Yeah, if only politicians knew that here we could multiply that number by 100.
So question, you think if I did a BGC today I'd be G2G by Saturday afternoon?
JM Ver. 2.0
12-26-2012, 18:52
And after the ban in Australia happened, what happened to their crime rate? Yeah, if only politicians knew that here we could multiply that number by 100.
So question, you think if I did a BGC today I'd be G2G by Saturday afternoon?
Next saturday afternoon....
lpgasman
12-26-2012, 19:38
And after the ban in Australia happened, what happened to their crime rate? Yeah, if only politicians knew that here we could multiply that number by 100.
The problem is, its not about stopping crime, its about controlling the people.
ChunkyMonkey
12-26-2012, 19:41
And after the ban in Australia happened, what happened to their crime rate? Yeah, if only politicians knew that here we could multiply that number by 100.
So question, you think if I did a BGC today I'd be G2G by Saturday afternoon?
Just saying that 70% of their citizen all the sudden had boat accident etc and lost their firearms... I imagine if it happened here small riot will break out and 99% of weapons are lost in the following mass boat accident.
No you wont get your background til next week.
Great-Kazoo
12-26-2012, 20:26
Just saying that 70% of their citizen all the sudden had boat accident etc and lost their firearms... I imagine if it happened here small riot will break out and 99% of weapons are lost in the following mass boat accident.
No you wont get your background til next YEAR.
NightCat
12-26-2012, 20:37
Heard when I was at Big R earlier that the Timer is now pegged out at 99:59 and cant count any higher, with about 12k in que
I'm not feeling very positive that I will get to pick up my new toy this weekend. [fudd]
Irrespective of wait time, anyone in que should likely just be happy that what they purchased was available - not everything is...
My FFL guy has had one 4473 pending for 6 days now...
funkymonkey1111
12-27-2012, 14:04
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22264459/colorado-gun-background-check-system-tops-out-checks
the post says information on the timing is no longer readily available to dealers. I don't know what that means exactly, but sounds like quite a line still exists
I did my BGC last Thursday at 5ish and still have not heard anything yet. I ordered my new toy three months ago and it gets in when everyone else decided they needed to get a gun.[Bang] Now I am going to be gone for five more days and will not be able to pick it up tell next wendsday. I am not a happy camper!!
I did my BGC last Thursday at 5ish and still have not heard anything yet. I ordered my new toy three months ago and it gets in when everyone else decided they needed to get a gun.[Bang] Now I am going to be gone for five more days and will not be able to pick it up tell next wendsday. I am not a happy camper!!
My brother ran into a similar issue today- he ordered his new Nighthawk GRP about 3 weeks ago, had them put new Hiney sights on it, then they shipped it last Wednesday (FFL transfer to 5280). That same Wed. he went in and got his BGC done (completed Friday afternoon), gun arrived Friday, he went in Sun to get it, they said it hadn't arrived. He called Nighthawk on Mon, got confirmation that it shipped and was signed for on Friday. Went in today to pick it up, they said they haven't logged or inventoried arrivals from Fri yet, they'll call when he can come in and pick up his already paid for gun... He's pissed. The gun is there, the check is complete, but because of this panic rush he can't get it until they get to it... I call bullshit. Seriously, this whole crap needs to end soon.
battle_sight_zero
12-27-2012, 15:20
A friend of mine checks the Walmart every day in Douglas County for an AR. Today they got some Colts in. Upon filling out the paperwork the counter guy said the wait time is now 3-4 hours..... Does not make any sense. Anybody got an update????
eadgbe194
12-27-2012, 16:13
still waiting for my check that was started Friday, I think a chp should exempt you from an instacheck.
A friend of mine checks the Walmart every day in Douglas County for an AR. Today they got some Colts in. Upon filling out the paperwork the counter guy said the wait time is now 3-4 hours..... Does not make any sense. Anybody got an update????
I was at the wally world in Loveland this weekend and they said the same thing. They said that they call in thier BGCs rather then using the online check and the phone checks dont take aslong.
battle_sight_zero
12-27-2012, 16:47
Interesting: I thought the same people did the checks.
I was at the wally world in Loveland this weekend and they said the same thing. They said that they call in thier BGCs rather then using the online check and the phone checks dont take aslong.
Walmart calls in their checks. I bought a rifle from them and the gal had to sit there at the counter on the phone(on hold) for about 45 minutes. This was in the pre-panic buying days. Seems pretty inefficient(for them) but if they are getting it done faster than online checks, might be the way to go.
Delfuego
12-27-2012, 17:53
They were on holiday like everyone else and only went back to work mid-day yesterday... [pick-me]
I bought a pistol at Lock & Load Armory yesterday. They told me next Wednesday at the earliest and I think that was pretty optomistic.
omegalopez
12-27-2012, 22:38
I did a BGC last Thursday and still nothing. If anything at least I was able to secure the item I wanted. It look's like we are being conditioned for the new norm.
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