View Full Version : CBI updated there web page time estimatation section
Longest Wait : 6 days 12:14 Applications Waiting : 11304
as of this posting, a little better notification. I can better tell my customers at the show this weekend.
It's awesome to know our sport/hobby has gone mainstream.
JM Ver. 2.0
12-28-2012, 06:45
I'm just glad they got that pesky 100 hour clock improved.... Although, I don't think going from "hours waited" to DAYS is much of an improvement.
TEAMRICO
12-28-2012, 08:17
On the El Paso County front as far as CCW Permits go, I had a student tell me yesterday that her appointment with the Sheriffs Office was scheduled for March 6th. So if you call now you can look at about a 2 month wait.
RCCrawler
12-28-2012, 08:41
I wonder now if they'll ever get this caught up, or if they just continue to keep a 10,000 check backlog to act as a waiting period.
nikolatesla19
12-28-2012, 08:47
Man I love your avatar :)
battle_sight_zero
12-28-2012, 09:12
I mentioned in another post a friend of mine bought a new AR from Wal-Mart yesterday. He walked out of the store with almost immediately. This was a Colorado Walmart. Seems the chain uses the FBI background. To bad the gun shops can't do that.
I don't think any dealer is exempt from going through the CBI. Sounds like Walmart made a mistake :-(
trlcavscout
12-28-2012, 12:20
I still believe its horse shit that as a CCW holder I have to wait for a cbi check! Even in Las Vegas where they are way stricter on guns I never had to do a background check. But politicians aren't the brightest people around obviously.
By the time I get my new rifle shipped from Buds and do the application I should have it by February. [Coffee]
Sorry all, I put my BGC for a new Sig... I hope to have her by next weekend. What I really don't understand here is where the hell are all these coming from continuously? It was at 10,000 on Sat, and today it's at 11,000? So people keep flooding in and submitting checks? They get to what? 1200-1400 per day, and it would seem that 12-1500 keep submitting every day. I'm assuming, since prior to this posting, my BGC was entered, so maybe I have 6 days or so to wait. I'm still not happy, I've never had to wait more than an hour for my BGC.
omegalopez
12-28-2012, 13:10
Longest Wait : 6 days 12:14 Applications Waiting : 11304
as of this posting, a little better notification. I can better tell my customers at the show this weekend.
That poor person having to wait that long.
Sorry all, I put my BGC for a new Sig... I hope to have her by next weekend. What I really don't understand here is where the hell are all these coming from continuously? It was at 10,000 on Sat, and today it's at 11,000? So people keep flooding in and submitting checks? They get to what? 1200-1400 per day, and it would seem that 12-1500 keep submitting every day. I'm assuming, since prior to this posting, my BGC was entered, so maybe I have 6 days or so to wait. I'm still not happy, I've never had to wait more than an hour for my BGC.
Yah, I'm trying to figure that one out too. I wonder how many guns were bought online and are now waiting at the receiving FFL to clear the BGC.
clublights
12-28-2012, 13:28
I wonder now if they'll ever get this caught up, or if they just continue to keep a 10,000 check backlog to act as a waiting period.
Sawa blurb on fox31 news last night ...
CBI spokesperson said they have added personal and hours to try and catch up .
I still believe its horse shit that as a CCW holder I have to wait for a cbi check! Even in Las Vegas where they are way stricter on guns I never had to do a background check. But politicians aren't the brightest people around obviously.
The concern here, and it's a fair one, is that something could happen to make you ineligible, e.g. a restraining order or mental health hold, but you could still have your physical permit in hand. Without the background check, the seller is relying on potentially outdated info.
Sawa blurb on fox31 news last night ...
CBI spokesperson said they have added personal and hours to try and catch up .
Either way, I sent the CBI a FB message (not sure if they read it, but it's the thought) expressing my gratitude and appreciation for all their hard work during this insane time.
eadgbe194
12-28-2012, 15:36
so does anyone know what date/time checks are being processed now? I figured i would have heard something about my check that was started about this time last friday but i haven't yet.
nikolatesla19
12-28-2012, 15:42
so does anyone know what date/time checks are being processed now? I figured i would have heard something about my check that was started about this time last friday but i haven't yet.
I'm in the same boat. Just being patient. Went to sportsmans for lunch and it looked like a Walmart Black Friday sale. So my guess is that if every place is that busy, they are overloaded and doing there best. :crazy:
BlasterBob
12-28-2012, 15:52
The concern here, and it's a fair one, is that something could happen to make you ineligible, e.g. a restraining order or mental health hold, but you could still have your physical permit in hand. Without the background check, the seller is relying on potentially outdated info.
That's why it'd be EXTREMELY important to some how update this type info (on a timely basis) with the official who actually issued that persons CCW. That official would then have to make immediate contact with the CCW holder advising him/her that their permit is no longer valid and must be returned to the issuing Officer immediately. But, this still wouldn't prevent the CCW holder to make purchases in the mean time..... Don't know how it would/could work but surely other States must have some system to update this type info.
CBI has a Facebook page?
Everyone has a Facebook page these days...
http://www.facebook.com/ColoradoBureauofInvestigation?ref=ts&fref=ts
clublights
12-28-2012, 18:19
so does anyone know what date/time checks are being processed now? I figured i would have heard something about my check that was started about this time last friday but i haven't yet.
On the facebook page they are making updates to where they are .. an hour ago ( 16:15 local) they were working on checks from dec 21 at 14:00
damn they are getting hammered.. tough time to be in the insta check unit!!!!
DavieD55
12-28-2012, 18:23
A right delayed is a right denied.
Everyone has a Facebook page these days...
http://www.facebook.com/ColoradoBureauofInvestigation?ref=ts&fref=ts
December 23 was the last time this was updated.
Not everyone has facebook. A government agency should not restrict public information to some freaking social media. It should be available to the public.
Sharpienads
12-29-2012, 00:46
December 23 was the last time this was updated.
Not everyone has facebook. A government agency should not restrict public information to some freaking social media. It should be available to the public.
Its been updated since then. Anyone can access their FB page whether they have an acct or not. And it's free. I think utilizing free social media is a good idea, as opposed to paying for a website and its upkeep.
So it's 8 hours ago from December 29. The last date of the 23rd made me think that was the last day it was updated. That made me think it wasn't public. If it is really 8 hours ago from today and is totally public I will agree with you bout being a more efficient way of doing it.
Thanks for clarifying that for me.
NightCat
12-29-2012, 02:01
understand....its like 140 hours...
But BUSINESS hours...FEDERAL BUSINESS HOURS.
By the time I get my new rifle shipped from Buds and do the application I should have it by February. [Coffee]
Hope Buds is better than impactguns.com. They have been a fail with their "in stock" items in both non-panic and edge-of-panic buying periods.
JM Ver. 2.0
12-29-2012, 08:47
understand....its like 140 hours...
But BUSINESS hours...FEDERAL BUSINESS HOURS.
State... The CBI isn't a federal unit... And, if I remember right, they were running extended hours to try and get checks knocked out.
Just checked the Facebook page...
Extended hours: 6am to Midnight. Yep... Sure sounds like FEDERAL BUSINESS HOURS to me...
Delfuego
12-29-2012, 10:49
Dont get too excited....
"CBI InstaCheck completed 1,274 background checks for firearms purchases on Friday. Currently working on checks submitted on 12/21/12."
Holger Danske
12-29-2012, 10:57
Sportsmans Warehouse in COS was quoting 7-9 days yesterday. The backlog at the time was 11,740.
nikolatesla19
12-29-2012, 10:58
Just got my call from last Friday. :)
Delfuego
12-29-2012, 11:03
Just got my call from last Friday. :)Your a lucky man...
Nice avatar too! [Awesom]
OneGuy67
12-29-2012, 12:05
From their FB page two hours ago...Colorado Bureau of Investigation (http://www.facebook.com/ColoradoBureauofInvestigation?ref=stream)
CBI InstaCheck completed 1,274 background checks for firearms purchases on Friday. Currently working on checks submitted on 12/21/12.
I was under the impression that CBI could do about 2,000 checks per day even before the recently expanded business hours. So why did they complete "only" 1,274?
OneGuy67
12-29-2012, 14:23
I was under the impression that CBI could do about 2,000 checks per day even before the recently expanded business hours. So why did they complete "only" 1,274?
Maybe some take longer? You know, the John Smith's of the world take a little longer to research than the Ivan Jachovaloski's of the world.
Prior to this, they rarely had to process more than 1000 in a day. The volume they are seeing is unprecedented. In October they processed a total of 28000.
I was under the impression that CBI could do about 2,000 checks per day even before the recently expanded business hours. So why did they complete "only" 1,274?
assuming they are working 18 hours a day, that equates to almost 71/hr or just over 1/minute thats not to bad for a gov. operation IMHO.
JM Ver. 2.0
12-29-2012, 14:48
I was under the impression that CBI could do about 2,000 checks per day even before the recently expanded business hours. So why did they complete "only" 1,274?
If they made a Social Security Number MANDATORY or at least REALLY REALLY suggested it... Check times would go down... Like the other guy said.... John Smith is a bastard to do a background check on.
Why does someone with a concealed carry permit even need to get a background check? That person has already been thouroughly vetted by the authorities. Seems to me they could streemline the system if they cut out the redundant checks on those folks.
Circuits
12-29-2012, 14:58
Why does someone with a concealed carry permit even need to get a background check? That person has already been thouroughly vetted by the authorities. Seems to me they could streemline the system if they cut out the redundant checks on those folks.
ATF will not allow that unless a state's permit is "NICS-compliant", which Colorado's county-by-county issuing system is not.
Byte Stryke
12-29-2012, 15:01
ATF will not allow that unless a state's permit is "NICS-compliant", which Colorado's county-by-county issuing system is not.
One thing I love about Georgia
I can walk in, buy an AR-15 and a 1911 and walk out with only a verification of my GWL
:D
Crazy. I guess I'll be waiting some time for the pistol I bought on Dec 26th.
funkymonkey1111
12-29-2012, 18:59
CBI is asking for a additional funds from the legislature to complete the checks
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22277119/colorados-crush-gun-checks-requires-more-money-officials
I think CBI hires through Prime Source Staffing, so anyone looking for a job right now may check into that. I think they pay $10-$11 an hour or something.
kidicarus13
12-29-2012, 19:07
I think CBI hires through Prime Source Staffing, so anyone looking for a job right now may check into that. I think they pay $10-$11 an hour or something.
Very accurate info. Different shifts and different days off are available if hired.
KevDen2005
12-29-2012, 19:29
Very accurate info. Different shifts and different days off are available if hired.
This is really good for the economy.
clublights
12-29-2012, 20:06
From CBI's Facebook just a few mins ago :
Currently 12,797 checks in queue for background checks for firearms purchases. Wait time of 7 days. CBI has processed 1,643 on Saturday. Working on morning of 12/22/12.
Taking those numbers with the
11,942 number from yesterday means that CBI had ~ 2500 ADDED checks today alone.... WOW..
Just checked status on my background check at Sportsmans and they said i'm four from the top still. We put our request in saturday morning.....
Byte Stryke
12-29-2012, 20:19
CBI is asking for a additional funds from the legislature to complete the checks
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22277119/colorados-crush-gun-checks-requires-more-money-officials
wait until we have to do NFA Registrations on over 300 Million guns... and if they don't hurry it will be 400 Million
Great-Kazoo
12-29-2012, 20:26
wait until we have to do NFA Registrations on over 300 Million guns... and if they don't hurry it will be 400 Million
More once all the CO BG checks get approved. THE Feds would have to Amnesty w/out charge for tax stamps. During the wait time you could not (hopefully) be prosecuted for a non-compliant gun. THEN comes the legality / court cases for people in states who do not recognize NFA. CA would shit IF they had to allow grandfathered CADOJ long guns as NFA / Title II firearms. Blomberg would have an aneurism, seeing his Gun Ban morph in to a nationwide NFA Free for all.
Your current wait time for NFA approval is 28 months. Isylandermyk would be pulling his hair out;)
Just saw this CBI update on Facebook:
Currently 12,797 checks in queue for background checks for firearms purchases. Wait time of 7 days. CBI has processed 1,643 on Saturday. Working on morning of 12/22/12.
More once all the CO BG checks get approved. THE Feds would have to Amnesty w/out charge for tax stamps. During the wait time you could not (hopefully) be prosecuted for a non-compliant gun. THEN comes the legality / court cases for people in states who do not recognize NFA. CA would shit IF they had to allow grandfathered CADOJ long guns as NFA / Title II firearms. Blomberg would have an aneurism, seeing his Gun Ban morph in to a nationwide NFA Free for all.
Your current wait time for NFA approval is 28 months. Isylandermyk would be pulling his hair out;)
If the NFA Branch had to process all of the outstanding "assault rifles" in circulation it would take them decades to get it completed, if they tripled their output.
kidicarus13
12-29-2012, 22:42
If the NFA Branch had to process all of the outstanding "assault rifles" in circulation it would take them decades to get it completed, if they tripled their output.
True but someone will still be along shortly and propose that that is the exact plan on how our gov't intends to take away our firearms.
Great-Kazoo
12-29-2012, 23:06
Supposedly CBI is allowing ffl's to call in no more than 10 for same day approval.
gnihcraes
12-30-2012, 11:26
Supposedly CBI is allowing ffl's to call in no more than 10 for same day approval.
Interesting, a friend of mine bought a pistol late yesterday, paid extra $ for phone in check, and received a call today that it's done a ready for pick up.
Great-Kazoo
12-30-2012, 11:44
Interesting, a friend of mine bought a pistol late yesterday, paid extra $ for phone in check, and received a call today that it's done a ready for pick up.
filled out yesterday am. picked up this am.
Why does someone with a concealed carry permit even need to get a background check? That person has already been thouroughly vetted by the authorities. Seems to me they could streemline the system if they cut out the redundant checks on those folks.
I had a conversation with Gina (co-owner of 5280) yesterday about this... She says she pays close attention, being one of the biggest FFLs in Denver, and said that had come up 3 times and was vetoed 3 times. Ritter had seen it and said no, and she's not sure if Hick had seen the proposal, but there isn't a chance in hell he would sign off on anything that would make it easier for us who OBEY THE LAW to get a gun... [Mad]
Great-Kazoo
12-30-2012, 13:43
I had a conversation with Gina (co-owner of 5280) yesterday about this... She says she pays close attention, being one of the biggest FFLs in Denver, and said that had come up 3 times and was vetoed 3 times. Ritter had seen it and said no, and she's not sure if Hick had seen the proposal, but there isn't a chance in hell he would sign off on anything that would make it easier for us who OBEY THE LAW to get a gun... [Mad]
CCW use to be recognized for cash & carry. however the shooting in castle rock was one of th estraws that broke the proverbial camel's back. As usual the mantra of "IF IT SAVES ONE LIFE, ISN'T IT WORTH IT" SWAYED politicians back to the dark side of life. The next session of the Co legislature will be the full brunt of anti-gun emblazoned reps and their minions.
So, guys that know more than I...
Since I bought a gun on the 21st, and haven't heard anything yet, what would be the best way to look into the delay? I had a family shoot last thursday and called Machineguntours a few times that day and I really don't want to annoy them too much.
6 pm upate: 12,604 in the queue for background checks for firearms purchases. Queue time is 8 days, 5 hours. Processing checks from 12/22.
Great-Kazoo
12-30-2012, 22:03
So, guys that know more than I...
Since I bought a gun on the 21st, and haven't heard anything yet, what would be the best way to look into the delay? I had a family shoot last thursday and called Machineguntours a few times that day and I really don't want to annoy them too much.
Average time is 5-7 days, deduct monday & tuesday for Christmas PLUS everyone who filled out a 4473 before you. This puts you for approval hopefully tomorrow. Simple math. reference this thread for more anwers
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/78931-Is-it-just-me
Average time is 5-7 days, deduct monday & tuesday for Christmas PLUS everyone who filled out a 4473 before you. This puts you for approval hopefully tomorrow. Simple math. reference this thread for more anwers
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/78931-Is-it-just-me
Thanks Jim for your helpful comment.
I guess since they were posting on facebook that they were processing from the 22nd... I thought I may have been passed over, since I submitted the instacheck on the 21st.
trailrider12
12-30-2012, 23:24
I have never seen an AR in Walmart, they normally have long guns and shot guns only....
two shoes
12-30-2012, 23:38
I have never seen an AR in Walmart, they normally have long guns and shot guns only....
Had them at the South Loveland and the Timnath Wally-World in the north... until 2 weeks ago anyways... the gun cases are empty in Timnath.... Only the tags left
I have never seen an AR in Walmart, they normally have long guns and shot guns only....
An AR is a long gun.
An AR is a long gun.
Think he meant bolt guns and single shots. [Flower]
most my customers got a 24 hr turnaround after I figured out how to do it.
CBI taking flipper rubs now too huh...:)
most my customers got a 24 hr turnaround after I figured out how to do it.
Went by your tables. I know you mentioned you do not do your own BGCs at the shows. The folks you use must do a good job!
[Beer]
Great-Kazoo
12-31-2012, 10:24
CBI taking flipper rubs now too huh...:)
All joking aside The untold time Randy and his wife spend on the phone waiting for approvals may never be appreciated by the masses. The same for any other lgs that tries to facilitate a speedier turn around time.
My bad. Didn't know that was his wife. When I asked why they charge for checks, the owner told me they are not affiliated with R&S. Maybe I'm confusing them with someone else. Wouldn't be the first time. I'll have to stop by again at the next show.
omegalopez
12-31-2012, 13:11
You need to hand it to Randy and his wife, they went out of their way to make sure the BGC went through. They spent hours on the phone to make sure they spoke with someone at CBI to process the 4473. They could have easily entered the 4473 manually and his customers would have a 8 to 10 day wait time OR they could have charged more to have them processed within 24.
+1 to R&S I alway check with Randy first when I'm in the market for my next purchase.
So the $10 charge was only because CBI was backed up and they had to call them in. OK, that makes sense. I thought it was their normal practice. I'll drop by and ask next show.
Great-Kazoo
01-01-2013, 02:08
So the $10 charge was only because CBI was backed up and they had to call them in. OK, that makes sense. I thought it was their normal practice. I'll drop by and ask next show.
Why not stop by their place instead of waiting till "the next show" ?
For the Scripture says, “Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain,”b (http://www.ar-15.co/#footnotesb) and “The worker deserves his wages.
My wife deals with the BGC for me (I don't do BGC at the show) and she won't do it for free (I can't say as I blame her). She has to put up with "is it finished yet", "why is it taking so long" so on and so forth [panic] (multiply that times 30 people) WHILE she is trying to enter it into the computer. The other option for me is to raise my prices or take the purchase up to the front and for the customer to wait in line with all the other 4473s to be processed by the TGS processors in the front of the show. I choose to keep my prices lower and let the buyer pay $10.00. The job is available to anyone who want to do that for 2 days, then file the forms, enter them into the A&D book, maintain the for forms for 20 years, and do this all for free.
So, $10.00 sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
$10 is a DEAL for this service. Some people place no value whatsoever on the labor of others. I could go into a really long, profanity laced tirade about the expectations some people have of other people...but I won't.
randy kicks much ass . i cant say enough good about him and his staff at r&s . they have always been super helpful and they even called one in for little old me this weekend . plenty of venders would not go the extra distance like r&s will . i have never seen better prices on new guns at the show and they are always in a pretty good mood . i could go on but it would be better if you had your own positive buying experience from r&s .
thanks again randy , the r1's look great together and now i have one to pass on to each of my kids [Flower]
$10 is a DEAL for this service. Some people place no value whatsoever on the labor of others. I could go into a really long, profanity laced tirade about the expectations some people have of other people...but I won't.awe come on robert . didnt you know that venders have nothing better to do and they didnt pay anything for the stuff on the table ........well the crowd/costumers at tanner would at lest have you believe that
Tables + power + internet connection for 2 days = $400.00. I have to sell a lot of guns just to pay for the tables. I know it's the cost of doing business, but most folks think the tables, power, and internet connections are free.i know what you mean , i have to sell a lot to make up table ,gas , food , hotel and then time .......i always fall short on getting paid for time though .[Coffee]
For the Scripture says, “Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain,”b (http://www.ar-15.co/#footnotesb) and “The worker deserves his wages.
My wife deals with the BGC for me (I don't do BGC at the show) and she won't do it for free (I can't say as I blame her). She has to put up with "is it finished yet", "why is it taking so long" so on and so forth [panic] (multiply that times 30 people) WHILE she is trying to enter data into the computer. The other option for me is to raise my prices or take the purchase up to the front and for the customer to wait in line with all the other 4473s to be processed by the TGS processors (then you will still pay $10.00). I choose to keep my prices lower and let the buyer pay $10.00.
The job is available to anyone who wants to do that for 2 days from 9 to 5, then file the forms, enter the info into the A&D book, maintain the for forms for 20 years, and do this all for free.
So, $10.00 sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
I agree, but since you are quoting scripture, you could have just told me and others that. Why tell customers they are not affiliated you? Again, I have no issue with it. I just sensed some deception so chose to buy elsewhere. It is all good.
[Beer]
awe come on robert . didnt you know that venders have nothing better to do and they didnt pay anything for the stuff on the table ........well the crowd/costumers at tanner would at lest have you believe that
If I had as much $$ as some of the crowd thinks I'd own the entire state of Colorado. :)
Great-Kazoo
01-01-2013, 11:55
I agree, but since you are quoting scripture, you could have just told me and others that. Why tell customers they are not affiliated you? Again, I have no issue with it. I just sensed some deception so chose to buy elsewhere. It is all good.
[Beer]
Wow you're a pretty rude mother #$%^&. You have an issue with ANYONE here PM them. Stop pissing & moaning grow up act like a man. I'd pm you this but doubt you would get it, especially after the numerous times it was EXPLAINED TO EVERYONE.
I have had the one dealing with R&S,, Both Randy & his wife went out of their way for a sale which they could have charged me much more for, PLUS accommodated me due to distance from them. RANDY made the calls to me, RANDY made sure i SAVED MONEY by driving down to the show not only on saturday, but then again on sunday to pick up my rifle. This was after i informed him, if he or his wife were unable to SIT ON THE PHONE FOR UNTOLD HOURS i would be happy to pick it up next week when down in the metro area.
HOWEVER RANDY said he would try to get it done ASAP. I WILL NOT EVEN GO IN TO WHAT TIME I RECEIVED MY gtg CALL, CONSIDERING THE LONG HOURS THEY PUT IN AT TANNER, DEALING WITH SNIVELLING Childern like you.
IF R&S had an item i wanted, i would take the drive there and back just because R&S stood by their word. That's something you RARELY see ANYWHERE .
jim ,sometimes you make me smile [Flower]
met plenty of f*cktards in my day but not the r&s crew . they have always been a cut above the rest and this weekend proved it by a bunch .
Byte Stryke
01-01-2013, 12:07
R&S team is as good as it gets.
Some people are just liberal whiney-asses in conservative clothing
ChunkyMonkey
01-01-2013, 13:00
$10 is a DEAL for this service. Some people place no value whatsoever on the labor of others. I could go into a really long, profanity laced tirade about the expectations some people have of other people...but I won't.
I agree, I don't think I ever dealt with so many cheap bastards the last week through here or armslist. These are the same asholes who should have known better after the election and now bitch and moan over $10bgc??? Fvck them!!
SideShow Bob
01-01-2013, 13:01
opinions are like asshole's and yours stinks.
HEY ! That is my sig. Line, pay up for copyright infringement ! .............[LOL]
ChunkyMonkey
01-01-2013, 13:01
R&S team is as good as it gets.
Some people are just liberal whiney-asses in conservative clothing
damn I miss you, bytey
SideShow Bob
01-01-2013, 13:13
So, when did this thread jump the tracks and become a Bitch about R&S thread ?
They have always been an upfront honest outfit.
$10 for a BGC that doesn't take 7- 8 days ? hell yes ! Only a dumb ass would bitch about that.
Even before the madness, it still cost you the $10 for the BGC at the gun shows.
So, when did this thread jump the tracks and become a Bitch about R&S thread ?
They have always been an upfront honest outfit.
$10 for a BGC that doesn't take 7- 8 days ? hell yes ! Only a dumb ass would bitch about that.
Even before the madness, it still cost you the $10 for the BGC at the gun shows.
I was put in the queue for a BGC on Saturday at an LGS. According to the CBI numbers I won't be able to pickup my gun until sometime late next week. I would have gladly ponied up an extra $10 to have the gun same day if it were an option.
Great-Kazoo
01-01-2013, 14:47
So, when did this thread jump the tracks and become a Bitch about R&S thread ?
They have always been an upfront honest outfit.
$10 for a BGC that doesn't take 7- 8 days ? hell yes ! Only a dumb ass would bitch about that.
Even before the madness, it still cost you the $10 for the BGC at the gun shows.
At this point in the discussion
I agree, but since you are quoting scripture, you could have just told me and others that. Why tell customers they are not affiliated you? Again, I have no issue with it. I just sensed some deception so chose to buy elsewhere. It is all good.
[Beer]
Anyone have the most recent numbers? How many are still in the system? When is mine going to go through?
HoneyBadger
01-01-2013, 18:47
Wow you're a pretty rude mother #$%^&. You have an issue with ANYONE here PM them. Stop pissing & moaning grow up act like a man. I'd pm you this but doubt you would get it, especially after the numerous times it was EXPLAINED TO EVERYONE.
I have had the one dealing with R&S,, Both Randy & his wife went out of their way for a sale which they could have charged me much more for, PLUS accommodated me due to distance from them. RANDY made the calls to me, RANDY made sure i SAVED MONEY by driving down to the show not only on saturday, but then again on sunday to pick up my rifle. This was after i informed him, if he or his wife were unable to SIT ON THE PHONE FOR UNTOLD HOURS i would be happy to pick it up next week when down in the metro area.
HOWEVER RANDY said he would try to get it done ASAP. I WILL NOT EVEN GO IN TO WHAT TIME I RECEIVED MY gtg CALL, CONSIDERING THE LONG HOURS THEY PUT IN AT TANNER, DEALING WITH SNIVELLING Childern like you.
IF R&S had an item i wanted, i would take the drive there and back just because R&S stood by their word. That's something you RARELY see ANYWHERE .
[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1]
Great-Kazoo
01-01-2013, 19:01
Anyone have the most recent numbers? How many are still in the system? When is mine going to go through?
11K ++
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22293328/wait-times-gun-background-checks-continue-rise?source=rss
facebook post from an hour ago (17:04)
Happy New Year! The latest numbers from InstaCheck are as follows: 11,878 checks in the queue. The team has run more than 1,000 background checks for firearms purchases today. They are currently processing checks submitted on 12/23 (early afternoon).
Great-Kazoo
01-01-2013, 19:06
[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1]
I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099685/quotes?qt=qt0434772
One of the best back & forth banters in any movie EVER
facebook post from an hour ago (17:04)
Happy New Year! The latest numbers from InstaCheck are as follows: 11,878 checks in the queue. The team has run more than 1,000 background checks for firearms purchases today. They are currently processing checks submitted on 12/23 (early afternoon).
Thanks. [Awesom]
Mine went in early on the 24th. Hopefully they'll get me processed by this weekend.
funkymonkey1111
01-01-2013, 19:35
Some people are just liberal whiney-asses in conservative clothing
yep, that's it--someone is liberal because they don't like a vendor. i guess all the people that carp about gunsmoke, jensen's, 5280, or wherever are just whiney-asses in conservative clothing, too?
Randy,
While I haven't purchased from you, I have fingered your wares at one show, and received pricing from you several times while shopping around. You have always been accommodating, pleasant, and professional. You don't need to explain yourself to any asshole that wants to whine about a
$10 fee for special handling.
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facebook post from an hour ago (17:04)
Happy New Year! The latest numbers from InstaCheck are as follows: 11,878 checks in the queue. The team has run more than 1,000 background checks for firearms purchases today. They are currently processing checks submitted on 12/23 (early afternoon).
Has anyone else noticed they seem to be doing less and less each day? Initially they were doing around 2200 a day. If I'm not mistaken they managed to do over 4K on Black Friday and now every update I see from them indicates they have done less than they did the previous day.
Has anyone else noticed they seem to be doing less and less each day? Initially they were doing around 2200 a day. If I'm not mistaken they managed to do over 4K on Black Friday and now every update I see from them indicates they have done less than they did the previous day.
Its not just them. It's everyone doing less. It's the holidays you know.
OneGuy67
01-01-2013, 20:51
They are adding 26 temps in order to try to catch up, starting next week as well as moving people from other sections of CBI who have experience with the databases in there temporarily until the temps can get up to speed.
Sounds to me like they're doing all they can.
KevDen2005
01-01-2013, 21:02
They are adding 26 temps in order to try to catch up, starting next week as well as moving people from other sections of CBI who have experience with the databases in there temporarily until the temps can get up to speed.
One Guy, I thought you mentioned before that they are possibly going to be hiring in this section. I know a couple people, with clean records of course, that are looking for work and would most likely be willing to do this type of work. Where can I send them to search for such jobs, if they exist?
Longest Wait : 8 days 12:54 Applications Waiting : 11452
One Guy, I thought you mentioned before that they are possibly going to be hiring in this section. I know a couple people, with clean records of course, that are looking for work and would most likely be willing to do this type of work. Where can I send them to search for such jobs, if they exist?
I think CBI hires through Prime Source Staffing, so anyone looking for a job right now may check into that. I think they pay $10-$11 an hour or something.
Very accurate info. Different shifts and different days off are available if hired.
Prime Source
Mine finally cleared. Submitted Dec. 24th at about 9:15 a.m. Got the call around ten this morning. Now, if it wasn't for this whole, pesky job thing maybe I could get up to Loveland to pick up my new toy.
[Coffee]
CBI now has a new, old process. It was if I were willing to wait on "hold" for 4 hours CBI would process 10 form 4473. Now when I call in, they will take the information and put it into the computer and call me back when it is finished, no quicker than when I put it in the queue. WHAT A CROCK OF SHIZ. They are hiring 26 people to answer the phone and put the same information into the computer that I can do myself?
Instead of doing what other states do, put in the CCW license number on the 4473 and letting the gun go to the customer, they hire staff to do what I can do faster. That a bureaucrat for you.
CBI now has a new, old process. It was if I were willing to wait on "hold" for 4 hours CBI would process 10 form 4473. Now when I call in, they will take the information and put it into the computer and call me back when it is finished, no quicker than when I put it in the queue. WHAT A CROCK OF SHIZ. They are hiring 26 people to answer the phone and put the same information into the computer that I can do myself?
Instead of doing what other states do, put in the CCW license number on the 4473 and letting the gun go to the customer, they hire staff to do what I can do faster. That a bureaucrat for you.
yep, exactly what the lgs here ran into today.
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/79583-no-more-call-in-bgc-s
Colorado: Gun Grabbers in the Legislature Continue to Add to Their Rights Infringing Agenda This Session (http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2013/1/colorado-gun-grabbers-in-the-legislature-continue-to-add-to-their-rights-infringing-agenda-this-session.aspx?s=&st=&ps=)
Earlier this week, state Representative Lois Court (D-6) stated that she will pursue legislation this session that would unnecessarily burden law abiding gun owners with a $10.50 fee for the state mandated background check for each firearm transfer. The cost of this background check, which is conducted by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI), is currently covered by the state.
CBI is 1 of only 12 states running this type of duplicative state check, as an overwhelming majority of states rely upon the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) to clear purchases of firearms through licensed gun dealers. This duplicative and unnecessary program will cost taxpayers over $2 million this year, yet when tasked with responding to a higher than average demand of volume, CBI has failed to show its true value.
With NICS being used to conduct criminal records checks for purchasers of any modern firearm from a gun dealer in every state, state checks are obsolete and wasteful of scarce fiscal resources. Imposing a gun tax -- or a "user fee" on a constitutional right -- on firearm purchasers to subsidize an unnecessary and duplicative program is the wrong solution to this problem. If such program is a public safety measure, then the public as a whole should pay for it and not just law abiding gun owners. The better solution is to repeal the CBI checks and have firearms transfers subject only to NICS.
In addition to considering the imposition of a gun tax on firearm purchasers, state legislators are proposing a wide variety of gun restrictions this session in an attempt to severely limit your gun rights in the Centennial State. There has been serious discussion by some Democrats in the Colorado General Assembly to ban commonly-owned semi-automatic rifles, ban “high capacity magazines,” restrict private firearm sales and reverse the state Supreme Court ruling on Campus Carry. These misguided proposals are an affront to our constitutional rights as law-abiding citizens.
The battle in Denver that lies before us to protect our gun rights begins next Wednesday, January 9. This will be an assault on our Second Amendment rights unlike one we have ever seen. As gun owners, sportsmen and supporters of the Second Amendment, we urge you to contact Governor John Hickenlooper and your state legislators TODAY and respectfully express your opposition to restrictions to your lawful gun rights.
muddywings
01-03-2013, 12:24
FYI-- did BGC at noon on 26th. Just got call complete.
FYI-- did BGC at noon on 26th. Just got call complete.
So if I'm lucky I'll get the call tonight? I did mine at about 5:45 last Thurs (27th) back when they said wait time was 6 days 04 hrs... I don't believe them though, I don't expect a call until tomorrow, which sucks because I'm going to a funeral.
Jan. 5 update: 11,200 background checks in the queue. InsatCheck team cleared Dec. 28 checks today. More than 2,000 checks were processed on Saturday.
patrick0685
01-05-2013, 23:26
Jan. 5 update: 11,200 background checks in the queue. InsatCheck team cleared Dec. 28 checks today. More than 2,000 checks were processed on Saturday.
holy cow that still a ton of people waiting
I submitted mine the 28th and was told late this afternoon that it might me cleared tomorrow.....
I submitted mine the 28th and was told late this afternoon that it might me cleared tomorrow.....
According that update your bgc should be done, I put mine in on the 2nd I still have some time to wait....
Has anyone been cleared from a check submitted on the 28th? My check was submitted mid afternoon on the 28th and CBI is reporting that all checks from the 28th have cleared but the gun store is saying my BGC is still in queue.
Meh.. mine will be done by the time I get my gun in :)
I'm happy to report that my BGC cleared at 1:30 this afternoon. It took 9 days to be processed.
Punkface
01-06-2013, 16:52
Took about a week for mine to be processed. It finished processing the day before my lowers were delivered.
trlcavscout
01-06-2013, 17:07
Is their any guns left for sale? Are you guys buying all the old wheel guns from the back rooms or what? With that many checks done in CO alone I would imagine that the supply is drying up?
Mountain Boy
01-06-2013, 17:11
I only have 8(ish) days left![facepalm]
Today was one of the frist days going shooting that was not as much fun, well, still fun but all the while thinking about 2 weeks from now......
Jim, don't say it, I know I could have been shooting your Rossi today, but I couldn't pass up the deal I got on the 2 new rifles.
Great-Kazoo
01-06-2013, 17:35
I only have 8(ish) days left![facepalm]
Today was one of the frist days going shooting that was not as much fun, well, still fun but all the while thinking about 2 weeks from now......
Jim, don't say it, I know I could have been shooting your Rossi today, but I couldn't pass up the deal I got on the 2 new rifles.
Cash and carry, for a low non-waiting period time. Hey it's hard to pas any "deal' right now.
Is their any guns left for sale? Are you guys buying all the old wheel guns from the back rooms or what? With that many checks done in CO alone I would imagine that the supply is drying up?
There seems to a decent supply of handguns at reasonable prices. I've been to a few places with a nice stash of AR's but they all start around $2700 and go up from there.
The gun I picked up for myself was one I ordered on December 21 through Gallery Of Guns.
Holger Danske
01-06-2013, 18:24
Went to Sportsman's Warehouse in COS, with a friend, who was picking up a pistol (took 9 days to clear CBI). I was really surprised. No, AR's of course, very few pistols on display, maybe 25 or so, very few magazines, and the only ammo they had in volume was shotgun shells and 45 auto. No 9mm ammo at all and no .22lr. They did have a good amount of long guns and shotguns left.
hammer03
01-06-2013, 20:00
They've been wiped for weeks. Last friday I guess they had 50 people in line for the door to open in the morning. Trucks show up on Friday, I guess they didn't even bother putting things on shelves, just threw it all on a table and let people go after it. It was all gone by noon. They hadn't hiked prices, so I bet most of that stuff was on armslist by the evening.
Wonder what all the shops with $3k AR's are going to do if a ban does materialize?
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