View Full Version : Here come the lawyers!
speedysst
12-28-2012, 20:57
http://news.yahoo.com/claim-seeks-100-million-child-survivor-connecticut-school-003646074.html
The first lawsuit is in the works. $100 million for a 6 year old survivor. The comments again show the absolute cluelessness of our society.
Pancho Villa
12-28-2012, 21:01
There is an interesting argument that since the state forbids any normal, caring adult to carry weapons to defend their charges, the state is responsible when wrongdoing occurs on school grounds.
Kraven251
12-28-2012, 21:13
So yeah, maybe the parents might want to be able to afford to send their kids to a fancy school with armed guards, since the politicians that send their kids to private schools with armed guards think the "common folk" don't need them.
I would normally argue against these sorts of lawsuits but in this case I support the family. We send our children to school and expect them to be safe. If a school creates policies they claim will make our children safer and their "safer" practices result in a significant loss of life that could have been avoided with a few preventative measures that school should be liable for any and all loss their irresponsible policies caused.
sabot_round
12-28-2012, 21:27
There is an interesting argument that since the state forbids any normal, caring adult to carry weapons to defend their charges, the state is responsible when wrongdoing occurs on school grounds.
Way back when in public HS (on another state) we had one armed guard (state police) and there was never an incident...and I can even say that he never had to pull his gun out to make a stop (even as fat as he was and with the thugs that we had).
SideShow Bob
12-28-2012, 22:22
Way back when in public HS (on another state) we had one armed guard (state police) and there was never an incident...and I can even say that he never had to pull his gun out to make a stop (even as fat as he was and with the thugs that we had).
Sheesh,
Back when I was in public HS, we carried Buck Folding hunters on our belts, shotguns or rifles in the trunk/back windows of pick ups for before & after school hunting and shooting trips.
We didn't need no armed guards.
sabot_round
12-28-2012, 23:05
Sheesh,
Back when I was in public HS, we carried Buck Folding hunters on our belts, shotguns or rifles in the trunk/back windows of pick ups for before & after school hunting and shooting trips.
We didn't need no armed guards.
Roger, I'm tracking!!! But I grew up in the city and that was it!! It wasn't 'till I joined the MIL that I learned about that.
trlcavscout
12-28-2012, 23:11
At poudre high school in FT. Collins we had guns in our back windows until we got some ol bitch principle my junior year in 1993, she threw a stink about it. Then we had a cop after that to make sure we didn't carry guns to school. But they also had spit cups in the cafeteria in the mornings for is. My how times have changed for the worst! I couldn't imagine going to school now with all the pussified rules. Hell we never thought about shooting or stabbing each other and we all had guns! Every once in a while we went out to the baseball field and settled our differences like men and that was that, you win some you lose some but you always learned from it.
I did get a 3 day vacation my senior year for having a 357 under my seat i forgot about. The damn "parking lot monitor" seen it.
"Back in my day" we just mostly had our fists and wits and I went to the "Dangerous Minds" (see imdb) HS in California. Our one security guy was not armed and is still the butt of jokes.
Troublco
12-29-2012, 07:05
We had two Samoan security guards at my HS, although I never quite figured out why. Neither one of them were armed (like they needed to be...both of them were as big as a Sumo wrestler) and I don't recall there ever being an issue that they were really needed for. Possibly because they were there, I suppose...you never need a gun until you really need it, so maybe they kept things from happening. I doubt it, it was a fairly quiet school in a pretty good area.
Of course, the last time I saw the place in about 1997 it had gone from an open campus to looking like Alcatraz South. Huge cement wall around the whole place, with a few iron gates.
buffalobo
12-29-2012, 07:16
Sheesh,
Back when I was in public HS, we carried Buck Folding hunters on our belts, shotguns or rifles in the trunk/back windows of pick ups for before & after school hunting and shooting trips.
We didn't need no armed guards.
^^This. Our senior year, in the spring right before graduation the senior sponsor's, hosted a Tea for the girls and a trap shoot for the guys. These events took place during the school day.
JM Ver. 2.0
12-29-2012, 08:28
I would normally argue against these sorts of lawsuits but in this case I support the family. We send our children to school and expect them to be safe. If a school creates policies they claim will make our children safer and their "safer" practices result in a significant loss of life that could have been avoided with a few preventative measures that school should be liable for any and all loss their irresponsible policies caused.
That's cute... I hope someone sues a school that your taxes pay for. Then I hope they win. Just so you can say you did a good thing by paying for their lawsuit with your taxes...
Moron...
Singlestack
12-29-2012, 09:10
We had two Samoan security guards at my HS, although I never quite figured out why. Neither one of them were armed (like they needed to be...both of them were as big as a Sumo wrestler) and I don't recall there ever being an issue that they were really needed for. Possibly because they were there, I suppose...you never need a gun until you really need it, so maybe they kept things from happening. I doubt it, it was a fairly quiet school in a pretty good area.
Of course, the last time I saw the place in about 1997 it had gone from an open campus to looking like Alcatraz South. Huge cement wall around the whole place, with a few iron gates.
Yup, Samoan security guards probably are effective against students who are horsing around and the usual stuff by normal kids. But they are totally useless against a firearm-armed nutjob intent on mass murder. There are a lot of schools with these unarmed security guards. The big objection IMHO to putting armed cops in schools or arming teachers is from the teachers unions - who are universally anti-2A and anti-gun. Many are determined to keep any gun possessed by a law-abiding citizen off their campus, at any cost.
h8monday
12-29-2012, 14:00
http://news.yahoo.com/claim-seeks-100-million-child-survivor-connecticut-school-003646074.html
The first lawsuit is in the works. $100 million for a 6 year old survivor. The comments again show the absolute cluelessness of our society.
Lawyers make every scenario a lose lose for someone. Imagine if a teacher at Sandy Hook had been armed and shot the intruder but a bullet passed through him and killed a child? There would be the same law suit against the school AND the teacher even through the teacher would have saved 25 lives.
JM Ver. 2.0
12-29-2012, 14:51
Lawyers make every scenario a lose lose for someone. Imagine if a teacher at Sandy Hook had been armed and shot the intruder but a bullet passed through him and killed a child? There would be the same law suit against the school AND the teacher even through the teacher would have saved 25 lives.
Let's not and say we didn't.... Plus, if your bullet passes through, you're doing something wrong. Wrong ammo or you missed.
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