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SuperiorDG
12-29-2012, 13:23
I have not been to a gun store in a while and was wondering who is buy all these guns? Is it first timers or people that are already are familiar with guns? What have you folks that work at these stores or others that have had contact with buyers finding out? Does all this craziness tell us something about how the American people feel about guns?
Great-Kazoo
12-29-2012, 13:38
EVERYONE is Buying them, EVERYONE. The insanity to buy a gun, anywhere in the country is phenomenal. The administartion did the biggest mistake ever announcing "Meaningful Dialogue" to resolve the issues. Flip side is O succeeded in 2 weeks, doing what no other president has. He jumped started the economy big time, shit i know people (mmm) who melted credit cards buying shit before the elections, NOW FUGGDABOTIT
OneGuy67
12-29-2012, 13:43
I was at Machine Gun Tours on Thursday during my lunch hour and it was busy with all sorts of people; some discussing SBR's and cans, while others didn't have a clue as to what they were looking at, but wanted one since Obama is talking restrictions. The prices were too high for me to be serious about buying anything. I did eye a nice forearm they had that hadn't had its price jacked up. Even their bargain bins had prices jacked up on the items in it.
The people that are buying the guns are the people that ask the guy at Sportsman's if they can buy another glock mag loader because it's tough loading his new glock.
The people that are buying the guns are the people that ask the SAME guy at Sportsman's if the lock in the box is to lock the plastic case!
TAHT'S who is buying the guns.... God help us all.
blacklabel
12-29-2012, 14:32
The people that are buying the guns are the people that ask the guy at Sportsman's if they can buy another glock mag loader because it's tough loading his new glock.
The people that are buying the guns are the people that ask the SAME guy at Sportsman's if the lock in the box is to lock the plastic case!
TAHT'S who is buying the guns.... God help us all.
That's certainly a portion of the market. I also have friends who are a part of the firearm culture that are buying every time they find something reasonably priced.
brokenscout
12-29-2012, 14:33
THe same people that have SKS-47s(super scary) http://www.armslist.com/posts/762675...lots-of-extras (http://www.armslist.com/posts/762675/denver-colorado-rifles-for-sale--norinco-sks-47-7-62x39mm--ak47-lots-of-extras)
Is it me or, do we desperately need a public service announcement about training.... I am thrilled American's are flocking to own guns! It's important and very few things can instill responsibility of their owner, like a firearm, but holy crap! This is still a game of numbers just like anything else, and with this many numbers, the lefties are bound to have more accidents to publicize. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE people, get some training and learn how to always safely handle those new guns you're buying!
Kraven251
12-29-2012, 14:41
I know some older people that own a hunting rifle or two, that have picked up an AR or AK, and ammo to go with it. I know people that grew up with guns that didn't own any because they didn't hunt anymore and were living in a more urban setting, they are buying guns.
Oddly the reason when I asked both sets of folks about why they were deciding to acquire, largely got the same answer. It wasn't that they were afraid of a ban, it didn't have anything to do with home protection or self-defense. It had everything to do with them wanting to have the tools at hand if the country took a bad turn.
Of all of the words and actions of politicians, and all of the fiscal/financial issues and the shit slide we are on...none of that scared me. These people that are worried about a very real possibility of a not so civil action ranging in ages from 25-85, that scares me. They are waiting for something to give, and they just simply want to be prepared if it does.
Delfuego
12-29-2012, 15:12
THAT'S who is buying the guns.... God help us all.And soon they will be CCW'ing, certified from an online course... [Peep]
Hell, even people who voted for Obama are buying guns right now.
I look forward to the horror stories from the public shooting areas once the weather warms up a bit.
electronman1729
12-29-2012, 15:29
Hell, even people who voted for Obama are buying guns right now.
I look forward to the horror stories from the public shooting areas once the weather warms up a bit.
Been thinking that myself.
What will happen to Left Hand/Pawnee?
Hell, even people who voted for Obama are buying guns right now.
I look forward to the horror stories from the public shooting areas once the weather warms up a bit.
don't worry, there will be campfire/shooting bans soon enough :)
On a more serous note. Does anyone know of a decent collection of YouTube videos about firearm basics? Has the NRA put something like that together? Something we could point new shooters toward?
colorider
12-29-2012, 15:32
They guys at blucore are really pushing buyers to take one of their classes on safety and usage. For many of the buyers it is their 1st firearm or a firearm they are not at all familiar with. Their classes are loading up so at least some people are interested in learning. He also stated they are talking about having a range officer in the shooting area to watch people more closely and make sure they are being safe.
SuperiorDG
12-29-2012, 15:44
I know some older people that own a hunting rifle or two, that have picked up an AR or AK, and ammo to go with it. I know people that grew up with guns that didn't own any because they didn't hunt anymore and were living in a more urban setting, they are buying guns.
Oddly the reason when I asked both sets of folks about why they were deciding to acquire, largely got the same answer. It wasn't that they were afraid of a ban, it didn't have anything to do with home protection or self-defense. It had everything to do with them wanting to have the tools at hand if the country took a bad turn.
Of all of the words and actions of politicians, and all of the fiscal/financial issues and the shit slide we are on...none of that scared me. These people that are worried about a very real possibility of a not so civil action ranging in ages from 25-85, that scares me. They are waiting for something to give, and they just simply want to be prepared if it does.
If this is the mood in this country then we are in for some interesting times.
gnihcraes
12-29-2012, 16:56
Those who do not have guns are buying them. I was at G&G earlier and a young fellow ~25ish, was looking at an AR15 in a strange caliber, thought he should get one. A little late I'd say. He knew absolutely nothing about the AR platform, didn't know the stock from the barrel. Scary.
Great-Kazoo
12-29-2012, 16:58
If this is the mood in this country then we are in for some interesting times.
IF it's the mood. In some places IT's always been the mood. RE: Gordon Kahl
http://www.usmarshals.gov/district/nd/general/htm/kahl.htm
http://www.constitution.org/abus/gkahl/kahl.htm
johngraves2
12-29-2012, 17:02
I go to Bass pro a lot to look at everything they have and always see what is in stock behind the counter. Before the rush to buy firearms recently I would stereotypical say that they were being bought by people from out in the sticks and random inner-city people mixed in with a few hunters and such. Now it seems like it is all first time firearm owners with no clue what they are looking at only that they want to buy something. Seems to me a fair number of people are buying for the first time and then joining our site and other firearm sites to educate themselves (wish it was more, and wish the learned then bought after they knew what they were doing).
bigun1962
12-29-2012, 17:17
Its not everyone. It is first time buyers, doctors, lawyers, bank administration. Its not the run of the mill trader. Look on some of the sites and see the feedback of some of these folks. Don't know where they have been, but they have an endless supply of cash.
Singlestack
12-29-2012, 17:21
don't worry, there will be campfire/shooting bans soon enough :)
I know the guy who runs the Lafayette water treatment plant - se says if we have another dry winter like last winter that severe watering restrictions as well as a ban on outdoor campfires and possibly shooting are pretty much guaranteed.
Singlestack
12-29-2012, 17:27
At the Tanner this morning (which was insanely busy; avoid if you can), there was a super-busy vendor near the back of the North hall, selling cheaply tricked out DMPS ARs ($3K+!!!) and 870s. I saw many young guys who I would estimate were 25-30 years old buying up the ARs as fast as they could write the orders. Two of them I asked if this was their first rifle, and both said yes. I'm not sure if they understand the terrible value they are getting, but I don't think it mattered to them - they just wanted an AR.
james_bond_007
12-29-2012, 17:53
Is it me or, do we desperately need a public service announcement about training.... I am thrilled American's are flocking to own guns! It's important and very few things can instill responsibility of their owner, like a firearm, but holy crap! This is still a game of numbers just like anything else, and with this many numbers, the lefties are bound to have more accidents to publicize. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE people, get some training and learn how to always safely handle those new guns you're buying!
I was at a pistol class a few months back along with a very small (100 lbs wet type) of older lady (I won't comment on what "older" means). She had a Beretta 92FS that her husband said was THE gun she needed.
She couldn't rack the slide. He let her try a Glock 19...still couldn't rack it. Finally she could rack a Ruger Mark III .22LR.
He told her to get rid of the 92FS, as iff she ever got into a confrontation, it will eventually be taken from her and used against her.
She argued and stood by her husband's recommendation of keeping the 92FS.
The instructor would not PASS her. He told her to come back when she could demonstrate safe and sufficient operation of the firearm that she would be using...the 92FS.
To me, I think he did the right thing. He wanted to make sure his "graduates" left with what he felt was at least the "basics".
It is not like he was asking her to get 8/10 9's at 10 yards or more.
speedysst
12-29-2012, 18:52
THe same people that have SKS-47s(super scary) http://www.armslist.com/posts/762675...lots-of-extras (http://www.armslist.com/posts/762675/denver-colorado-rifles-for-sale--norinco-sks-47-7-62x39mm--ak47-lots-of-extras)
For a minute I though this was one of the SKS rifles that accepted AK mags but NOPE...just another idiot....
KevDen2005
12-29-2012, 19:28
I definitely just bought three rifles and have already numerous offers on them because I shopped and paid less for the three rifles than people are paying for one AR. This drives me crazy. I didn't just buy myself more toys to immediately sell them. I bought toys so I could play with them. Duh.
DSB OUTDOORS
12-29-2012, 19:33
I'm not buying anything. I have no toy's what so ever. And "I did Not inhale" or "Have any relations with Monica" [Coffee]
The people that are buying the guns are the people that ask the guy at Sportsman's if they can buy another glock mag loader because it's tough loading his new glock.
The people that are buying the guns are the people that ask the SAME guy at Sportsman's if the lock in the box is to lock the plastic case!
TAHT'S who is buying the guns.... God help us all.
We all started somewhere.
We all started somewhere.
This.
BPTactical
12-29-2012, 21:49
I was at a pistol class a few months back along with a very small (100 lbs wet type) of older lady (I won't comment on what "older" means). She had a Beretta 92FS that her husband said was THE gun she needed.
She couldn't rack the slide. He let her try a Glock 19...still couldn't rack it. Finally she could rack a Ruger Mark III .22LR.
He told her to get rid of the 92FS, as iff she ever got into a confrontation, it will eventually be taken from her and used against her.
She argued and stood by her husband's recommendation of keeping the 92FS.
The instructor would not PASS her. He told her to come back when she could demonstrate safe and sufficient operation of the firearm that she would be using...the 92FS.
To me, I think he did the right thing. He wanted to make sure his "graduates" left with what he felt was at least the "basics".
It is not like he was asking her to get 8/10 9's at 10 yards or more.
Sounds like an instructor with some morals. So many of these guys don't realize the tremendous obligation to society they have when teaching neophytes.
We also have the opportunity to be ambassadors of our sport when we see these rookies. Instead of giggling as we walk away, take a second and offer them help and share a little knowledge with them.
Somebody helped you once, didn't they?
Bailey Guns
12-29-2012, 22:00
The people that are buying the guns are the people that ask the guy at Sportsman's if they can buy another glock mag loader because it's tough loading his new glock.
The people that are buying the guns are the people that ask the SAME guy at Sportsman's if the lock in the box is to lock the plastic case!
TAHT'S who is buying the guns.... God help us all.
No shit. Screw those people that wanna exercise their 2nd Amend rights. They don't know everything about guns, they don't deserve to own one.
Flatline
12-29-2012, 23:25
The people that are buying the guns are the people that ask the guy at Sportsman's if they can buy another glock mag loader because it's tough loading his new glock.
The people that are buying the guns are the people that ask the SAME guy at Sportsman's if the lock in the box is to lock the plastic case!
TAHT'S who is buying the guns.... God help us all.
Did you take the opportunity to tell them about some of the resources available so that they could learn more about gun ownership and safety?
sneakerd
12-29-2012, 23:34
Really? Have you been in a gunshop in the last several weeks?
DavieD55
12-30-2012, 01:06
The founders of our nation would be very disappointed and disgusted at the fact that there are so many adult newbies who dont know squat about modern firearms. [Coffee]
Great-Kazoo
12-30-2012, 01:08
The founders of our nation would be very disappointed and disgusted at the fact that there are so many adult newbies who dont know squat about modern firearms. [Coffee]
They also don't know shit about oppressive governments, seeing how approx 50% of the country voted for one AGAIN!
DavieD55
12-30-2012, 01:11
They also don't know shit about oppressive governments, seeing how approx 50% of the country voted for one AGAIN!
Yup. Kids are not learning s%%t in school these days.
Bailey Guns
12-30-2012, 07:04
Yup. Kids are not learning s%%t in school these days.
I beg to differ. They're learning the lessons of the left quite well, I'd say.
Ugh.... We can't save em all!!!!
Fried Chicken Blowout
12-30-2012, 10:21
Liberals are jumping in and buying. I've been approached by several Prius driving left wing yoga people at work asking how they get a firearm and get one before it's too late.
SuperiorDG
12-30-2012, 10:32
Liberals are jumping in and buying. I've been approached by several Prius driving left wing yoga people at work asking how they get a firearm and get one before it's too late.
Good to hear.
Liberals are jumping in and buying. I've been approached by several Prius driving left wing yoga people at work asking how they get a firearm and get one before it's too late.
Lol, I do yoga for my back. To me just another way to work out. Your right that 90% of those that are into the "yoga lifestyle" are very liberal.
There's too many liberal retards in our country anyways. Next time one of them asks how to obtain a firearm just tell them firearms are evil and they don't need one. They should just dial 911 and the police will come to their rescue. Then go home and pray that next time some mentally deficient psycho goes and does something stupid that person is there to experience it.
There's too many liberal retards in our country anyways. Next time one of them asks how to obtain a firearm just tell them firearms are evil and they don't need one. They should just dial 911 and the police will come to their rescue. Then go home and pray that next time some mentally deficient psycho goes and does something stupid that person is there to experience it.What if getting a firearm opens their eyes to a different possibility? I would think we would welcome more people on our side.
What if getting a firearm opens their eyes to a different possibility? I would think we would welcome more people on our side.
That's not a gamble I am willing to take. Four years of our last administration taught them absolutely nothing. I'd just as soon their numbers were reduced somehow.
Bailey Guns
12-30-2012, 11:13
What if getting a firearm opens their eyes to a different possibility? I would think we would welcome more people on our side.
These are the people that put the anti-gun politicians into office. Now they want a gun because the scumbags THEY elected want to take them? FFS. Sorry...I'd be rippin' someone a new ass for voting for the gun-grabbing liberals to begin with. I don't see some long-term sea change in ideals with a liberal who decides to buy a gun. Sure, it might happen with a few...maybe.
These are the people that put the anti-gun politicians into office. Now they want a gun because the scumbags THEY elected want to take them? FFS. Sorry...I'd be rippin' someone a new ass for voting for the gun-grabbing liberals to begin with. I don't see some long-term sea change in ideals with a liberal who decides to buy a gun. Sure, it might happen with a few...maybe.
A very remote maybe!
jonny450r
12-30-2012, 11:37
I was at a pistol class a few months back along with a very small (100 lbs wet type) of older lady (I won't comment on what "older" means). She had a Beretta 92FS that her husband said was THE gun she needed.
She couldn't rack the slide. He let her try a Glock 19...still couldn't rack it. Finally she could rack a Ruger Mark III .22LR.
He told her to get rid of the 92FS, as iff she ever got into a confrontation, it will eventually be taken from her and used against her.
She argued and stood by her husband's recommendation of keeping the 92FS.
The instructor would not PASS her. He told her to come back when she could demonstrate safe and sufficient operation of the firearm that she would be using...the 92FS.
To me, I think he did the right thing. He wanted to make sure his "graduates" left with what he felt was at least the "basics".
It is not like he was asking her to get 8/10 9's at 10 yards or more.
That sounds like my sister and brother in-law situation. He just bought my sister a kahr cw45 with the same attitude that she'll learn to shoot it and nothing else is worth the money, this is after my dad and I took them shooting my sister said she liked shooting our 9s and 40s more. We all gotta start somewhere but peoples ignorance scare me.
sent from my fancy dancy phone that'll soon be outdated or broken
These are the people that put the anti-gun politicians into office. Now they want a gun because the scumbags THEY elected want to take them? FFS. Sorry...I'd be rippin' someone a new ass for voting for the gun-grabbing liberals to begin with. I don't see some long-term sea change in ideals with a liberal who decides to buy a gun. Sure, it might happen with a few...maybe.
Maybe they're buying guns to keep you from buying guns. Like the dork in the Prius who drives at 50 in the passing lane because it makes everyone save fuel.
Maybe they're buying guns to keep you from buying guns. Like the dork in the Prius who drives at 50 in the passing lane because it makes everyone save fuel.
[LOL]
Bailey Guns
12-30-2012, 12:13
Maybe they're buying guns to keep you from buying guns. Like the dork in the Prius who drives at 50 in the passing lane because it makes everyone save fuel.
That makes more sense than the "leopard changing it's spots" explanation.
Troublco
12-30-2012, 12:15
What if getting a firearm opens their eyes to a different possibility? I would think we would welcome more people on our side.
Your thought is a good one, and I understand where you're coming from. However, most if not all of these folks are the same ones who thought that the first 4 years of Maobama were so great that they'd give him 4 more. And I have to agree with Ray and Bailey on this one. They thought this administration was so great, now let them deal with the results of their decisions.
Personally, I'd say that the mere fact that they suddenly feel differently shows that they knew at some level that there was an issue before, and now they don't want to live up to the beliefs they espoused previously. To which I say, Sucks to be them. They made their bed, now let them lie in it.
SuperiorDG
12-30-2012, 12:42
Your thought is a good one, and I understand where you're coming from. However, most if not all of these folks are the same ones who thought that the first 4 years of Maobama were so great that they'd give him 4 more. And I have to agree with Ray and Bailey on this one. They thought this administration was so great, now let them deal with the results of their decisions.
Personally, I'd say that the mere fact that they suddenly feel differently shows that they knew at some level that there was an issue before, and now they don't want to live up to the beliefs they espoused previously. To which I say, Sucks to be them. They made their bed, now let them lie in it.
The more property the government as to seize the harder it will be.
Troublco
12-30-2012, 12:50
The more property the government as to seize the harder it will be.
Ordinarily I'd tend to agree, but these are the folks that will run, not walk, to hand them over if the call came.
I'm probably going to have Rucker and nynco[mpoop] jump on me for this, but the biggest oxymoron today is 'gun-owning democrat.' Seriously, it's in their platform of ideals, they want "reasonable" restrictions on gun ownership. I read something the other day:
"The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them." -Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, 1811-1845.
Something to think about...
It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace
Are you good with the entire Joseph Story quote you posted, or just parts of it?
Are you good with the entire Joseph Story quote you posted, or just parts of it?
That quote right there I believe you to be taking out of context... He says nothing about eliminating the military, just not keeping war-capable force size 100% of the time- in that context he is speaking kind of in terms like it was just after WWII- during WWII we had a large force, but after Korea such a large force wasn't necessary so it can shrink and expand again when needed. It's more of an argument toward the requirement for a militia (to be defined as "any civilian that takes upon themselves the responsibility to keep an bear arms"- as Story quoted at a later date).
That's not a gamble I am willing to take. Four years of our last administration taught them absolutely nothing. I'd just as soon their numbers were reduced somehow.
10,000,000 less people voted for Obama the second time than the first time and the Repubs still could not win? There is a problem on the Repub side too, fielding an East Coast Rino. I agree we will never convert the far left, but that is maybe 10-30%. We only need a 1-2% swing to change things.
Kraven251
12-31-2012, 10:43
10,000,000 less people voted for Obama the second time than the first time and the Repubs still could not win? There is a problem on the Repub side too, fielding an East Coast Rino. I agree we will never convert the far left, but that is maybe 10-30%. We only need a 1-2% swing to change things.
The swing vote was "women's health," smoke and mirrors or reality doesn't matter, that election was lost on the perception of women's health and the fact the GOP handlers painted a picture of a man that couldn't speak his mind publicly. They redacted so many of his and Ryan's statements, their own party made fools of them on a very public stage.
bigmyk2k
12-31-2012, 11:15
I'm probably going to have Rucker and nynco[mpoop] jump on me for this, but the biggest oxymoron today is 'gun-owning democrat.' Seriously, it's in their platform of ideals, they want "reasonable" restrictions on gun ownership. I read something the other day:
Something to think about... [/FONT][/COLOR]
Is that quote from a decision, or just something he wrote or said?
Hey, I'm all in favor of this last two weeks' crop of newly-minted "gun-owning democrats". Gives them a personal stake in their decisions in the future. I think the 2nd Amendment saints rejoice, and an angel gets his wings every time one of these weak-kneed, liberal sheep buys a gun for the first time (incited to action by the impending threat of stripped freedom from THEIR leader). Might shift their viewpoint a little more toward the center, and give them pause the next time they vote - if they're one of the gun-owning populace.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but there are indeed MANY moderate gun-owning Independents with a mix of Liberal, Libertarian, and Conservative ideals. Just sayin'... They're not all extremist loons out there, heh. Many Liberal gun-owners, and this isn't their first rodeo. ;)
Many of us have written pissed off letters to all our Colorado (Dem.) Sens & Reps, using the helper links floating all over, after Fascist Feinstein's proposed bill was made public.
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