Paying for our own background checks:)

[brokenscout]

I already paid for my CCW, http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22277119/colorados-crush-gun-checks-requires-more-money-officials

[Great-Kazoo]

At one time there was a $10 fee for bg checks, Then CBI's budget was covered after X time from the funds, Just like an old toll road.

[blacklabel]

Heh, no.

[Byte Stryke]

so they want you to PAY for a redundant Bureaucracy...
that requires repeating...


Yeah, make fun of Georgia all you want. We do ONE Federal check, that covers the states as well.
Get your GWL and then for every weapon you buy thereafter you show your GWL, they make a photocopy of it, call it in and you are on your way.

[JohnTRourke]

exactly WTF do I pay taxes for??????
Oh, I know, for all the lazy fucking government employees to sit around and collect pensions and disability, not actually do their fucking job that I already pay for.

Yeah, this pissed me off also when I saw it.

[Gunner]

exactly WTF do I pay taxes for??????
Oh, I know, for all the lazy fucking government employees to sit around and collect pensions and disability, not actually do their fucking job that I already pay for.

Yeah, this pissed me off also when I saw it.

Liberal leeches on the goverment teet

[JoeT]

or we could be like 43 other states and just use the NICS check and not require an additional state check.

I may now speed it up, but it wouldn't cost the state money

[JohnTRourke]

or we could be like 43 other states and just use the NICS check and not require an additional state check.

I may now speed it up, but it wouldn't cost the state money

are you not paying attention?
all those people "doing" the checks need paychecks (I would say jobs, but that implies work)

or, like a bazillion other states, we could say people with a CCW could just show CCW and move on with life
but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
we need to justify positions and paychecks and control.

[KestrelBike]

He added that one good way to speed up the applications is to allow purchasers who already have concealed-carry permits to bypass the background checks — since they've already gone through the checks. Former Gov. Bill Ritter, a Democrat, vetoed Brophy's bill to do that in 2009 under a legislature controlled by Democrats.

Thanks Ritter you ass-stain.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

At one time there was a $10 fee for bg checks, Then CBI's budget was covered after X time from the funds, Just like an old toll road.
Ya, I remember paying for mine back when the FBI was doing the background checks. Then it was to changed to CBI and had to pay for awhile. Crap I feel old looking back at this. [blaster]

[jerrymrc]

exactly WTF do I pay taxes for??????
Oh, I know, for all the lazy fucking government employees to sit around and collect pensions and disability, not actually do their fucking job that I already pay for.

Yeah, this pissed me off also when I saw it.

Thanks, since about 1/2 the staff works for them. Hope I can repay the complement sometime.



Liberal leeches on the goverment teet

As well. Just like saying all cops are bad.......

[brokenscout]

Did not see this thread going this way, was just thinking CCW holders could not have to go through the back ground check...

[SideShow Bob]

Thanks, since about 1/2 the staff works for them. Hope I can repay the complement sometime.




As well. Just like saying all cops are bad.......



And I Would add that a good portion of the membership works for the government in one form or another.

I think I have a few new additions to my ignore list..........

[Byte Stryke]

Thanks, since about 1/2 the staff works for them. Hope I can repay the complement sometime.




Liberal leeches on the goverment teet
As well. Just like saying all cops are bad.......

I was trying to ignore it
Not all .Gov are leeches

I worked 5am-5PM Christmas day making sure DOD Networks were up and safe.

I will be working this Tuesday as well.

I am such a leech...

[JohnTRourke]

I was trying to ignore it
Not all .Gov are leeches

I worked 5am-5PM Christmas day making sure DOD Networks were up and safe.

I will be working this Tuesday as well.

I am such a leech...

tell you what
you find someone who DOES NOT get a check from the government who believes that (that not all are leeches)
then get back to us

[JohnTRourke]

And I Would add that a good portion of the membership works for the government in one form or another.

I think I have a few new additions to my ignore list..........

while I would quibble with the verb "works" for now I'll let that go

The rest of your statement seems to state the whole problem?
When a majority (or extremely large minority) is on the government teat?????

It's simply not sustainable.

These 10's of 1000's of people are not buying guns for the first time because they believe all these government employees are good for our future.

[JohnTRourke]

let's take this one little CBI department for example. To the best of my knowledge they are open 9-9 7 days a week (correct? incorrect? not far off). At least 2 to 3 background checkers on at any one time. 2 shifts a day plus coverage for the extra hours, plus vacation, holidays etc. So there are at least 20 to 30 people who have this "background checker" job. Plus 3 shift supervisors. Plus a department head. Plus about 1/2 of a FTE of an HR person and probably another 1/2 of a FTE of an IT person.
We're talking 25 to 35 people making on average probably 40,000 to 50,000 PLUS benefits (usually figured at 50% on top of salary) so let's call it $75,000 a year times 25 people.
so, this one little department is making about 2,000,000 dollars a year. Plus building, room, computers, phones, IT support, heat, cold, etc, etc, etc

DOING A JOB THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE AT ALL

since it's already done at the Federal side. (much less the constitutional argument pre-1968 that it was never done before then)

But it will never be cut. Those people will never be fired, they will continue to get raises, better buildings, more equipment, more benefits, bigger departments, more permanent people, etc.

I can give more examples, I'm certain everyone can. Even people employed by the government.

50 to 75% of government is total and utter waste. And everyone knows it even if they won't admit it.

It's simply not sustainable.

[Byte Stryke]

let's take this one little CBI department for example. To the best of my knowledge they are open 9-9 7 days a week (correct? incorrect? not far off). At least 2 to 3 background checkers on at any one time. 2 shifts a day plus coverage for the extra hours, plus vacation, holidays etc. So there are at least 20 to 30 people who have this "background checker" job. Plus 3 shift supervisors. Plus a department head. Plus about 1/2 of a FTE of an HR person and probably another 1/2 of a FTE of an IT person.
We're talking 25 to 35 people making on average probably 40,000 to 50,000 PLUS benefits (usually figured at 50% on top of salary) so let's call it $75,000 a year times 25 people.
so, this one little department is making about 2,000,000 dollars a year. Plus building, room, computers, phones, IT support, heat, cold, etc, etc, etc

DOING A JOB THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE AT ALL

since it's already done at the Federal side. (much less the constitutional argument pre-1968 that it was never done before then)

But it will never be cut. Those people will never be fired, they will continue to get raises, better buildings, more equipment, more benefits, bigger departments, more permanent people, etc.

I can give more examples, I'm certain everyone can. Even people employed by the government.

50 to 75% of government is total and utter waste. And everyone knows it even if they won't admit it.

It's simply not sustainable.

preaching to the choir here Brother...
I blame the commiefornian immigrants

[spittoon]

Ya, I remember paying for mine back when the FBI was doing the background checks. Then it was to changed to CBI and had to pay for awhile. Crap I feel old looking back at this. [blaster]
you old fart[facepalm] just kidding ,,,, 1k in que and they what more fo

[KestrelBike]

preaching to the choir here Brother...
I blame the commiefornian immigrants

Well shit if we just nuke the eastern and then southern hemispheres, finally build that wall on the border states, then we won't need you for any network upkeep!! (Canada isn't going to do a thing)

[thebolt]

let's take this one little CBI department for example. To the best of my knowledge they are open 9-9 7 days a week (correct? incorrect? not far off). At least 2 to 3 background checkers on at any one time. 2 shifts a day plus coverage for the extra hours, plus vacation, holidays etc. So there are at least 20 to 30 people who have this "background checker" job. Plus 3 shift supervisors. Plus a department head. Plus about 1/2 of a FTE of an HR person and probably another 1/2 of a FTE of an IT person.
We're talking 25 to 35 people making on average probably 40,000 to 50,000 PLUS benefits (usually figured at 50% on top of salary) so let's call it $75,000 a year times 25 people.
so, this one little department is making about 2,000,000 dollars a year. Plus building, room, computers, phones, IT support, heat, cold, etc, etc, etc

DOING A JOB THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE AT ALL

since it's already done at the Federal side. (much less the constitutional argument pre-1968 that it was never done before then)

But it will never be cut. Those people will never be fired, they will continue to get raises, better buildings, more equipment, more benefits, bigger departments, more permanent people, etc.

I can give more examples, I'm certain everyone can. Even people employed by the government.

50 to 75% of government is total and utter waste. And everyone knows it even if they won't admit it.

It's simply not sustainable.

Colorado used the federal system for these background checks for quite some time but a problem came up and public pressure caused the state to take the task on internally.........but you know it all and there is no reason for me to provide any more information for your benefit.

[gnihcraes]

exactly WTF do I pay taxes for??????
Oh, I know, for all the lazy fucking government employees to sit around and collect pensions and disability, not actually do their fucking job that I already pay for.

Yeah, this pissed me off also when I saw it.

I take offense to this, and can give you examples of government waste, but don't make assumptions that all .gov employees are blowing your tax money.

We can get fired, I see it many times a year in just a few departments.
Raises, eh, haven't seen one in 5-7 years now.
Benefits, well, there is nothing to brag about there either.
Bigger departments? Haven't seen that either in many years. Most are shrinking with lack of funds. The ones shrinking are supposed to be keeping criminals contained, but you can see where this is going can't ya.

So where do I find that ignore button?