Strap on your tinfoil.....

[NMB2]

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005

[blacklabel]

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005

I read that recently. It's one of the few things that has given me chills.

[Bailey Guns]

Strap on your tinfoil.....

Sorry. Don't have enough. I am going to Costco, though.

[NMB2]

I read that recently. It's one of the few things that has given me chills.

Here is why it gives me chills.....

I read it and say "this sounds like a fucking movie, unreal"

Then I think.... "its completely plausible, and goes along with our current events"

[Trigger]

I think this is appropriate...if taken in figurative terms...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/harts152000/315415_381578668561927_535222258_n_zps8624eca9.jpg

[Zundfolge]

I've been reading that type of thing online for years (and before the internet they were passed around via small newsletters and such ... for example I had a college professor in the late '80s that was convinced that the Federal Reserve had printed up a bunch of new money and the old money was going to be obsolete so they could catch everyone storing money outside the banking system and force them to pay exorbitant taxes on it when you exchanged it for the new cash).

Maybe someday one of them will be true ... this one has just enough "ring of truth" to it to be true. However I've read enough of these that also sounded just as plausible that never materialized.

Either way I expect 2013 is going to really really suck.

[palepainter]

The sad part for me is, I will not be surprised......

[Skully]

The information in that read was interesting, reads like a movie/book. Sad part is there is a lot of comparisons to the real world. I feel the one unpredictable variable is the human being, we know a confiscation is as equal to a fire starter beyond our imagination. I doubt many friends in the law enforcement will follow 100% with orders such as they. With in any fairy tale there is always a little truth.


[Coffee]

[jerrymrc]

Sounds like a cross between "Patriots" (the book) and Jericho. Even as fiction it is a disturbing read.

[rgburdie]

Am I really naive enough to think there is no way this could be true?

[DSB OUTDOORS]

[tinhat]Check. [panic] Check.

[Zundfolge]

The guy did the interview is a kook ... why didn't he (the DHS guy) go to a legitimate news outlet instead of "Canada Free Press"?

When is my check from DHS going to show up?

[ANADRILL]

The guy did the interview is a kook ... why didn't he (the DHS guy) go to a legitimate news outlet instead of "Canada Free Press"?

When is my check from DHS going to show up?

What legimate news outlet? Is there one you can name? Most all of the major news outlets are corrupt in the US.

[Clint45]

"During all of this, and you’ve got to remember that the dollar collapse is a big part of this, our country is going to have to be redone. I’ve seen - personally - a map of North America without borders. Done this year. The number 2015 was written across the top, and I believe that was meant as a year. Along with this map - in the same area where this was - was another map showing the United States cut up into sectors. I’m not talking about what people have seen on the internet, but something entirely different. Zones. And a big star on the city of Denver."

So we are going to be the Capitol of the Evil Empire??? Cool! [tinhat]

[blacklabel]

The guy did the interview is a kook ... why didn't he (the DHS guy) go to a legitimate news outlet instead of "Canada Free Press"?

When is my check from DHS going to show up?

Read the whole interview dude. This was answered. [LOL]


Show me the proof, they say. Why doesn’t you source come forward? If he knows so much, why not go to Fox or the media? To them, if it’s not broadcast on CNN, it’s not real. Well, they’ve got it backwards. Very little on the news is real. The stock market, the economy, the last presidential polls, very little is real.

[Brock Landers]

So we are going to be the Capitol of the Evil Empire??? Cool! [tinhat]

I guess one silver lining to this ridiculous fantasy would be that if the White House death star petition gets approved we could be seeing a large boom in local construction jobs around 2015 - that is unless they opt for forced laborers from the FEMA concentration camps.[ROFL1]

[trlcavscout]

We all know how well organized our gobment is, do you really think they could pull something that large off? And would china finance it?

[buckeye4rnr]

I just finished reading "The Men, The Mission, and Me" by Pete Blaber and as someone who worked in the most secretive parts of our government he is absolutely convinced that our government is completely incapable of pulling off a conspiracy.

There are too many moving parts and too many people involved for anything to remain a secret for long.

[bogie]

I'm a glass half-empty kind of guy. I tend to believe something like this will happen eventually.

I think TSA is a joke, and I wonder if Americans operating within the DHS agencies would turn on Americans... Then I think, am i fucking kidding myself, of course they would. Pigs love to get in the farmhouse. (I mean this from the Orwellian sense not derogatory) But then I think, TSA is a bunch of pussies, what are they gonna do.. Which of course leads me to the conclusion that they will have to do very little as most of the people will line up like cattle for slaughter (or sheep).

Sounds like Mein Kampf, Quotations from Chairman Mao, The Prince, The Communist Manifesto, and the Quran are required reading for the administration cronies. Which ones did i miss?

[Zundfolge]

I look at it this way ... I know the folk in DC are up to no good. If THIS is their plan than we are so seriously fucked that there is no way to unfuck the fucked we are about to be.

However I also think trlcavscout and bogman have a point. If they were this organized and efficient they'd have done all this decades ago.

[Trigger]

I look at it this way ... I know the folk in DC are up to no good. If THIS is their plan than we are so seriously fucked that there is no way to unfuck the fucked we are about to be.

However I also think trlcavscout and bogman have a point. If they were this organized and efficient they'd have done all this decades ago.

certainly illustrates the diversity of the word

[Zundfolge]

certainly illustrates the diversity of the word

'tis my homage to George Carlin.

[BuffCyclist]

Definitely a scary read indeed. Sadly, my fiancee won't let me wear my tinfoil hat anymore [LOL] but I have a feeling the re-education camps will outlaw tinfoil hats anyways so theres no use to wearing one now. [panic]

[Irving]

I have to wonder if the US wouldstand in the way of another country that tried to do something similar, and have to believe that they wouldn't. So I ask if there is another country in the world that would try to prevent this from happening here, and I am not confident that there would be. Maybe France or England in better times.

[drift_g35]

Are we going to have to offer up tributes to fight until the death too?

[NMB2]

I look at it this way ... I know the folk in DC are up to no good. If THIS is their plan than we are so seriously fucked that there is no way to unfuck the fucked we are about to be.

However I also think trlcavscout and bogman have a point. If they were this organized and efficient they'd have done all this decades ago.

They are incremenalists, and we have a Constitution unlike any other society in existence today, that is what make it hard. The fact that it hasn't gone full retard yet tells me that they are this organized and efficient.

[Fmedges]

Can someone explain what the benefit of doing all of this would be?

[Trigger]

Can someone explain what the benefit of doing all of this would be?

the benefit would not be one for the american people. Any blue blooded American citizen with half a brain can would have a hard time trying to figure out what the benefit would be, and I dont propose to try and figure out where the benefit would be to this country or its leaders but if they see a benefit and a chance to make their own plans a realization I would assume they would do whatever is necessary to achieve their goals.

[Kraven251]

Can someone explain what the benefit of doing all of this would be?

Control, total and absolute control.

I am also fairly certain it would drop the North American population by about 25%

[sellersm]

I ask the question, "why wouldn't they do something like this?" Given the ideology subscribed to by many of our leaders, these types of actions would only make sense: these kinds of actions are absolutely congruent with such an ideology!

Let's say that just ONE of these things happens: what impact would that have on our lives? More than we probably imagine today...

[BuffCyclist]

Control, total and absolute control.

I am also fairly certain it would drop the North American population by about 25%

Sadly, this is the end game for all of the government's moves.

Disarm us, then no matter what they do, they know they won't have an uprising on their hands, especially when they don't disarm their bodyguards.

While the entire thing with new territories of the US is a little farfetched, I could see it truly being a possibility with the way things are going. By 2015, highly doubt (hoping against) it, but worse things have happened in shorter timeframes.

[Trigger]

gunna go a little redneck/hick on this one.

you throw a frog into a pot of boiling water what happens? He jumps out.
throw him in a pot of cold water and heat it up, what happens? he stays in a gets cooked.

think about that when you ask, "Why havent they done it yet?"

[dwalker460]

If this is true they have not thought very far ahead, no one wants to see the South rise again, and thats what would happen

[Trigger]

If this is true they have not thought very far ahead, no one wants to see the South rise again, and thats what would happen

not just the south. which could be good or bad

[<MADDOG>]

My thoughts:

While I do not doubt we will have a currency challenge in the future, there aren't enough L/E and Military to pull this off, even if those groups sworn to uphold the Constitution did get behind this kind of "scenario". Even if they did, there are at least 50 million gun owners in America, and let's say a meager 5% of those people refused to "comply". Result: you have a something that makes Syria look like candyland...

[dwalker460]

My thoughts:

While I do not doubt we will have a currency challenge in the future, there aren't enough L/E and Military to pull this off, even if those groups sworn to uphold the Constitution did get behind this kind of "scenario". Even if they did, there are at least 50 million gun owners in America, and let's say a meager 5% of those people refused to "comply". Result: you have a something that makes Syria look like candyland...

Already happened once, it was called the Civil War, and was brought on by economic oppression and unwarranted government intervention through abuse of power.

[th3w01f]

Damn it, I made a strap-on out of my tinfoil thinking this was going to be about something else. Now it only protects a portion of my head and I'm not sure where to place it.

On the other hand this is the same guy who said something major would happen before and after Obama's election (Sandy and Sandy Hook) to cement him as our one true leader.

[theGinsue]

It would certainly explain a lot of things...
Like all of the .mil training in US communities;
The joint US/foreign.mil training going on here in the US like we've seen here in CO with Russia a few months back (it might still be going on, I don't know);
The 2 billion rounds of hollow point ammunition that DHS ordered this past summer;
How a no-name junior Senator came out of nowhere in 2007 to swipe the assumed locked-up Democratic nomination from Hillary Clinton;
Why the Republicans won't put forth a viable candidate and seem to sabatauge their chances of winning the elections;
How critical questions like the birth certificate issue could be ignored until after Obama was seated in power - and when it went to court with an unbelievable amount of evidence the judge just dropped it;
How so many members of both houses of Congress ould pass Obamacare without even reading it;
How the SCOTUS could possibly say that Obamacare is Constitutional;
etc., etc.

Sure, this thing reads like an action or drama novel/movie and seems utterly far-fetched. But, breaking it down and comparing it to the trends we've seen over the last many years, it also has plausibility and would explain lots of previously unexplainable activities/events. Perhaps, those involved are hoping that the extreme nature of this will keep our citizens in dis-belief until it's too late.

I'm not ready to discount it out of hand too readily.

[DFBrews]

http://uroboros.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/paranoia.jpg?w=500

[blacklabel]

http://uroboros.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/paranoia.jpg?w=500

Do you really think it's simply paranoia?

[DFBrews]

Do you really think it's simply paranoia?

No. Yes. No hell I do not know.

There is so much that happens that we will never know the full story on even though this is supposed to be the administration of "transparency". I do not trust one word that comes out of a politicians mouth about anything. The building blocks for what was outlined in the story are in place. I have a hope that as an American I can trust enough people that supposedly represent us from letting something like that happen. Lately I am less and less convinced though. Those at the top are trying to achieve their Utopia and we are standing in the way.

[NMB2]

Can someone explain what the benefit of doing all of this would be?

Honestly.... I know in my heart of hearts that Obama is a Muslim through and through, hardcore. His repeated actions that I can cite and provide indisputable proof for cement that for me.

The USA and Israel are the last frontiers. I think this goes beyond the big banks, and one world order. Look at how far the Islamic world has come, and look at the people they have in power. As far as I know, they have power in the world banks as well. This has been a LONG time coming.

I think that ultimately, this is the Jihad.


My thoughts:

While I do not doubt we will have a currency challenge in the future, there aren't enough L/E and Military to pull this off, even if those groups sworn to uphold the Constitution did get behind this kind of "scenario". Even if they did, there are at least 50 million gun owners in America, and let's say a meager 5% of those people refused to "comply". Result: you have a something that makes Syria look like candyland...

I have run this scenario through my head a thousand times. I served in the Army. (only have been out 2 months) Overseas with one unit, and trained DCRF mission when I was in Ft Polk for 2.5 years as a squad leader and commo chief. ( https://secureweb2.hqda.pentagon.mil/vdas_armyposturestatement/2011/information_papers/PostedDocument.asp?id=261

http://pstuph.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/us-military-now-trained-and-ready-to-deploy-in-the-united-states/ )

I never thought much of it when I was doing it.... but in the last year or so I started heavily thinking about the things we were trained to do. A lot of policing force, riot control, civil unrest, A LOT of CBRNe training.....things that just seemed like business as usual when I was doing it, and now seems odd to me.

Its looking like the Military is going to take about a 10% cut.... this is HUGE... this will be completely debilitating to our forces. I think initially the DHS could be used to contain us, twisting the law to make us the "criminals"..... a lot will refuse, but a lot will buy into the personal security, and being on the "winning team" so to speak.

I just wonder how the agenda fits into the end game and doing google searches, I think one would be completely foolish to think that there are not protected, and funded terrorist cells within our country. Al Queda, Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood.... whatever you want to call it, its here. We had no fucking clue as citizens that planes were going to get rammed into the trade centers, our government knew, but we didn't... just as we have no true proof of these cells.

Our brothers across the pond, Israel. It took them 4 days to pack, 2 days to destroy Syria/Egypt, and a day to go home last time. Look at the rift our president and administration has driven between USA and Israel. Look at him arming Egypt to the fucking teeth. Look at this bullshit that just went down in Benghazi.... My very first thought when I seen that shit was "Fast and Furious: Middle East".

I may have my tinfoil underwear on way too fucking tight, but this is all clear to me, and I will not be caught with my pants down.

[NMB2]

Another side note.... I have a fellow NCO still in, he is in big red 1. They are deploying to Africa.... wtf for? He sure as shit can't tell me.

Another thought that has crossed my mind, especially with the rising tensions in the middle east once again.... If this war with Israel and Islam kicks off you can sure bet its possibly going to set off WW3.

Attack us on our own turf with a broken Military that has a majority of combat units deployed?

There is so many different angles and ways that this can work, that is will drive me insane trying to think of them all. The best answer is to be prepared as you can. Make friends with like minds, and bring your A-Game gents. I will proudly serve next to each and every one of you if I have to. All differences aside.

[bogie]

It would certainly explain a lot of things...
Like all of the .mil training in US communities;
The joint US/foreign.mil training going on here in the US like we've seen here in CO with Russia a few months back (it might still be going on, I don't know);
The 2 billion rounds of hollow point ammunition that DHS ordered this past summer;
How a no-name junior Senator came out of nowhere in 2007 to swipe the assumed locked-up Democratic nomination from Hillary Clinton;
Why the Republicans won't put forth a viable candidate and seem to sabatauge their chances of winning the elections;
How critical questions like the birth certificate issue could be ignored until after Obama was seated in power - and when it went to court with an unbelievable amount of evidence the judge just dropped it;
How so many members of both houses of Congress ould pass Obamacare without even reading it;
How the SCOTUS could possibly say that Obamacare is Constitutional;
etc., etc.

Sure, this thing reads like an action or drama novel/movie and seems utterly far-fetched. But, breaking it down and comparing it to the trends we've seen over the last many years, it also has plausibility and would explain lots of previously unexplainable activities/events. Perhaps, those involved are hoping that the extreme nature of this will keep our citizens in dis-belief until it's too late.

I'm not ready to discount it out of hand too readily.

Thanks for all those reminders. I just had to roll out all 200 sq ft of this foil to make myself a cocoon.

[KestrelBike]

"During all of this, and you’ve got to remember that the dollar collapse is a big part of this, our country is going to have to be redone. I’ve seen - personally - a map of North America without borders. Done this year. The number 2015 was written across the top, and I believe that was meant as a year. Along with this map - in the same area where this was - was another map showing the United States cut up into sectors. I’m not talking about what people have seen on the internet, but something entirely different. Zones. And a big star on the city of Denver."

So we are going to be the Capitol of the Evil Empire??? Cool! [tinhat]

Hopefully they at least rename it to Coruscant

[Trigger]

all this talk of possible war and conflict is all very scary, and if its been said once its been said a million times "I truly hope it does not come down to open conflict." and I stand by that hope, a hope for humanity to come to its senses before we all blow each other to hell, and yet a small part of me knows that it is a false hope. however should it come down to it, I'm with NMB2, it would be my genuine pleasure to stand and serve with each and every man, woman and child who would fight for liberty.

Gentlemen, the pawns have been played...its our move.

[NMB2]

The whole Denver thing having a star on it. In our DCRF training, and during the cubs and bubs Denver was significant as well, especially when we went to Illinois for training and did a "live fire" type exercise. Its a regional capitol or command center of some sort.

[Fmedges]

all this talk of possible war and conflict is all very scary, and if its been said once its been said a million times "I truly hope it does not come down to open conflict." and I stand by that hope, a hope for humanity to come to its senses before we all blow each other to hell, and yet a small part of me knows that it is a false hope. however should it come down to it, I'm with NMB2, it would be my genuine pleasure to stand and serve with each and every man, woman and child who would fight for liberty.

Gentlemen, the pawns have been played...its our move.

I wait for the day. It would kill me to go against my Corps, but I value the constitution and principals this country was founded on more than life itself. Nothing would mean more to me than a standing shoulder to shoulder in the face of overwhelming odds to defend this great nation or whatever is left of it. I pray it does not come to this, but do not mistake my hesitation as weakness. We will prevail.

[Trigger]

I wait for the day. It would kill me to go against my Corps, but I value the constitution and principals this country was founded on more than life itself. Nothing would mean more to me than a standing shoulder to shoulder in the face of overwhelming odds to defend this great nation or whatever is left of it. I pray it does not come to this, but do not mistake my hesitation as weakness. We will prevail.

Semper Fi, Corporal

[Fmedges]

Semper Fi, Corporal

Kill

[NMB2]

Kill

Hooah ;)

[ChunkyMonkey]

While you guys ponder on that article... please stop a moment and pay attention the small changes that are being forced upon us. I am not afraid of the drastic change, as it will unite the people to say 'enough!' The 'smaller non-event' changes are what killing us as a nation.

[NMB2]

While you guys ponder on that article... please stop a moment and pay attention the small changes that are being forced upon us. I am not afraid of the drastic change, as it will unite the people to say 'enough!' The 'smaller non-event' changes are what killing us as a nation.

I think we're all tracking on that.... every forum I'm apart of across the net has realized this and drastically changed their views over the last few months.

[brokenscout]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=greuYvcMLDk

[cofi]

Are we going to have to offer up tributes to fight until the death too?

at least Denver gets a star I'll bet we are going to get to be district one

[BPTactical]

Tinfoil?

This one requires carved from billet....

[Singlestack]

If you read what Joel Skousen (http://www.joelskousen.com/) and Alex Jones (Infowars: http://www.infowars.com/, Prison Planet: http://www.prisonplanet.com/) have been saying for years, Denver is the site of a shadow government that has been in construction for years. That will be the center of an anti-constitutional "post collapse" government. Some have said there are huge facilities beneath DIA for that purpose - and thats why construction took so long and ran so far over budget. I thought it was the ultracool baggage handling system that didn't work? However, its not like computers are just too advanced to be fixable. And you would be reasonable to ask why newer airports don't have the ultracool baggage handling system in-place - surely they would have worked out the kinks by now?

[Kraven251]

at least Denver gets a star I'll bet we are going to get to be district one

or neutron bomb numbah 1

[dogbreath650]

I think the govt is way too screwed up to pull off anything as widespread and overt as what this "interview" suggests. Do I believe there are behind the curtain conspiracies - sure. But with all the people that would have to be "read in" to something like this there is no way they could keep a lid on it. Also, I believe there are way too many true Americans in uniform (of various colors) that would balk at being asked to be participate in action against citizens....

[BPTactical]

I think the govt is way too screwed up to pull off anything as widespread and overt as what this "interview" suggests. Do I believe there are behind the curtain conspiracies - sure. But with all the people that would have to be "read in" to something like this there is no way they could keep a lid on it. Also, I believe there are way too many true Americans in uniform (of various colors) that would balk at being asked to be participate in action against citizens....


Hail dogbreath! (personally I prefer catfood breath though).
I could not agree more.
While there are those in elected offices with nefarious undertones and desires I feel there is no way that this large of an agenda could be kept under wraps.

[whichfinger]

If you read what Joel Skousen (http://www.joelskousen.com/) and Alex Jones (Infowars: http://www.infowars.com/, Prison Planet: http://www.prisonplanet.com/) have been saying for years, Denver is the site of a shadow government that has been in construction for years. That will be the center of an anti-constitutional "post collapse" government. Some have said there are huge facilities beneath DIA for that purpose - and thats why construction took so long and ran so far over budget. I thought it was the ultracool baggage handling system that didn't work? However, its not like computers are just too advanced to be fixable. And you would be reasonable to ask why newer airports don't have the ultracool baggage handling system in-place - surely they would have worked out the kinks by now?
So when the work at DIA was finished, did the MIB hunt down and kill everyone who worked on it? 'Cause I think they'd have to, lest someone spill the beans.

[sellersm]

While I don't disagree that things are difficult to "cover up" and people tend to 'talk', what does history tell us about such things? Did Carthage "know" that Rome was going to take over them, and all the things Carthage did, 'in the name of peace & protection', were just a rouse to be disarmed and ready for killing? I don't see anywhere that history says someone "spilled the beans" in the Roman gov't. Does the history of Communism (in its various flavors and locations over the time of history) tell us that there were "bean spillers"?

[dogbreath650]

Different game from word of mouth and underground printing presses. A lot harder to keep things under wraps now...

[NMB2]

A lot harder to keep things under wraps now...

Obviously its not. Have you been watching current events? We have no idea of the real atrocities that are happening.

Worst thing you can do is underestimate your enemy.

[buffalobo]

Alot of ominous info and such out there. One thing I know for sure. The politicians do not have the best interest of the citizenry in mind.

[Hitman 6]

But with all the people that would have to be "read in" to something like this there is no way they could keep a lid on it. Also, I believe there are way too many true Americans in uniform (of various colors) that would balk at being asked to be participate in action against citizens....
THIS.... Unless of course, you're one of those paid agents that talk down upon these theories, Mr. Noob......