Did anybody else see this?

[CMP_5.56]

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22289245/colorado-lawmaker-eyes-imposing-fee-gun-buyers

There is Also talk that our now left leaning state government is talking about a state ban on semi automatic rifles, and bans on "high capacity" magazines.

so, I'm calling Hickenlooper, 303-866-2471

my state Senator, 303-866-2316

and representative, 303-866-2904

It's time We let them know, that if they even introduce these policies, We will clean out the state government during the next election.

[hawk1]

Gonna need a BIG mop and bucket!

[Great-Kazoo]

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22289245/colorado-lawmaker-eyes-imposing-fee-gun-buyers

There is Also talk that our now left leaning state government is talking about a state ban on semi automatic rifles, and bans on "high capacity" magazines.

so, I'm calling Hickenlooper, 303-866-2471

my state Senator, 303-866-2316

and representative, 303-866-2904

It's time We let them know, that if they even introduce these policies, We will clean out the state government during the next election.

You just heard this today? Where you been besides working, the news hasn't hit you?

[CMP_5.56]

I've been working more hours than I care to admit, until I got so sick I have been in a blanket hoping for death for the last 4 days. So, Yep, I've been way out of the loop.

[10mm-man]

Welcome back to the world!

[palepainter]

I have to be honest and say, that I would not have a problem paying for my own BG check. The problem I do have with it, is the fact that the money would never see any real help to keep the guns out of criminal hands. It would simply be another revenue source to pad their asses with.

[DavieD55]

If they pass any of this BS i sure hope it come back to bite them in the a$$ ten fold.

[Gman]

The NRA made some good points about this approach; http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2013/1/colorado-gun-grabbers-in-the-legislature-continue-to-add-to-their-rights-infringing-agenda-this-session.aspx?s=&st=&ps=

"CBI is 1 of only 12 states running this type of duplicative state check, as an overwhelming majority of states rely upon the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) to clear purchases of firearms through licensed gun dealers. This duplicative and unnecessary program will cost taxpayers over $2 million this year, yet when tasked with responding to a higher than average demand of volume, CBI has failed (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22280309/denver-gun-show-draws-buyers-protesters) to show its true value.

With NICS being used to conduct criminal records checks for purchasers of any modern firearm from a gun dealer in every state, state checks are obsolete and wasteful of scarce fiscal resources. Imposing a gun tax -- or a "user fee" on a constitutional right -- on firearm purchasers to subsidize an unnecessary and duplicative program is the wrong solution to this problem. If such program is a public safety measure, then the public as a whole should pay for it and not just law abiding gun owners. The better solution is to repeal the CBI checks and have firearms transfers subject only to NICS."

[DavieD55]

They tried to do it last year with HB1048. I dont see this passing this year.

[KAPA]

No way! They use drivers license as an example but I just checked the Bill of Rights again and don't see squat about driving rights. If you give in to this, then what is next? What other rights can they attach a fee to? Pay to follow a religion or say certain things?

I could almost agree with this if they didn't require background checks for current gun owners but since it is a right, I just can't get on board with it.

[BigDee]

NICS is currently providing background check results in 20 minutes despite the overwhelming demand. CBI is now up to 10 days and is requesting $500k in additional funds to continue providing less than efficient service.

Please tell me why the national system that seems to be working just fine for the majority of the nation is not sufficient for Colorado?

For the record... the media is making a big deal about the $500K issue and making it look like crazy ass gun owners are going to cause tax payers to spend a bunch of cash in the name of supporting the crazy ass gun owners. In reality $500K is what it costs to imprison 10 people per year. Colorado has several thousand people imprisoned.

[Byte Stryke]

So I only have one question. what did they do with all of the tax money for state hospitals?
Oh, That's right, they misappropriated it and now they want more.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

No way! They use drivers license as an example but I just checked the Bill of Rights again and don't see squat about driving rights. If you give in to this, then what is next? What other rights can they attach a fee to? Pay to follow a religion or say certain things?

I could almost agree with this if they didn't require background checks for current gun owners but since it is a right, I just can't get on board with it.

That's because there aren't any there.... But some people would try to make you think there was! There was some asshat going around trying to ramble off to some cop that he has the right to unrestricted travel... Which is ture. You can travel all you want... But operation of a motor vehicle... Totally different. Anyway, he would video tape the entire encounter in hopes of filing a lawsuit that his rights were infringed upon.. He was arrested and jailed for obstruction. He lost his lawsuit.

[Gman]

This isn't close to being anything like fee for a driver's license. This is just like a poll tax...and it's just as unconstitutional.

...not that anyone seems to honor that foundational document or its principles anymore.

[Ghosty]

What happens when you call? I've only emailed congresspeople, never called. Do you just leave a short message explaining your side of the issue, I couldn't someone actually answering. Guess I'll try...


I've been working more hours than I care to admit, until I got so sick I have been in a blanket hoping for death for the last 4 days. So, Yep, I've been way out of the loop.
Seems like everyone in Colorado is sick, including me. This is also the first year I got a flu shot, NEVER AGAIN! Normally only get sick for ONE, maybe two days, ONCE A YEAR, not two weeks! Feel like death, finally getting better so there's hope...

[bigmyk2k]

Incidentally, I saw yesterday that Colorado is 1 of only 12 states that even do a state background check on top of the federal check. Seems like a quick way to save some money is to cut the redundant check.

Cause that'll happen.

(On a side note, I can't decide if relying on the federal govment is the right move or not...)

[Ronin13]

See this is what I don't get. I have a good army buddy in FL who can buy a gun in 20min... NICS done. Here though, I purchase a gun last week, still don't have it. His neighbor bought a gun on Friday, brought it home on Friday. WTF? And CCW should bypass the BGC... but that'll never happen, because legislators (with the exception of one member here) hate gunowners. They forget that they work for us, they serve us, they are supposed to represent us!

[colorider]

It's all about what keeps the libtard gun grabbing twatwaffles happy. More checks even if they are redundant and a waste of money. They feel it is one more step in keeping guns out of the hands of bad guys,, or in this case good guys. To them, this new 10 day wait is a major bonus. It is acting like a waiting period which they would LOVE to have in place. The CBI check needs to go away. Redundant and a waste of resources.

[Gman]

Another thing that bothers me about these background checks for a God-given right that the Constitution only reinforces by telling the Government 'hands off'...

Why do law-abiding citizens have to prove who they are and go through this review to purchase a firearm when it's not legal to require voters to identify that they're a citizen or even eligible to vote? Is it because they both erode our freedom?

[Ronin13]

Another thing that bothers me about these background checks for a God-given right that the Constitution only reinforces by telling the Government 'hands off'...

Why do law-abiding citizens have to prove who they are and go through this review to purchase a firearm when it's not legal to require voters to identify that they're a citizen or even eligible to vote? Is it because they both erode our freedom?
It comes down to satisfying the people who don't know squat. Think about it, sell a gun to convicted felon and you are out of business and in jail. Granted we outnumber (we being the law abiding folks) felons, but still, if there was no background check system I promise you that every gang banger, felon, and wife-beater would be lined up to get a gun...
My thoughts on a waiting system, doesn't do squat. If some mentally unstable fruit cake wants to kill people, and has a clean record, you really think 3-10 days is going to stop him?

[Gman]

...and what happened 100 years ago when a cattle rustler or bank robber went to buy a gun? What happened in the 20's when you could buy a Thompson at the local hardware store, cash and carry? What part of "...shall not be infringed." are we trying to finesse?