View Full Version : JURY DUTY! What you guys think.....
DANGERTASTIC!
01-03-2013, 12:16
Is it our civil DUTY??? Or the BIGGEST waste of Fu-KinG time!
Sorry but Ive done this garbage and missed enough work...Its like they waste your day on purpose, and if you DONT do it they threaten you with jail time or a ridiculous fine???
I just have a hard time being told its my duty to waste a day of work
henpecked
01-03-2013, 12:22
If your scheduled to appear on a monday get it rescheduled... mondays are the days they pick for the whole week of duty.
Try to get any day but a monday.
colorider
01-03-2013, 12:23
Funny rant as you kinda think the govt cares one bit about you working or your job. I am a business owner and I am the only employee. When I am unavailable, my income is $0. Do you think that is an excuse to get out of Jury Duty? Nope. They don't give one shit about it.
Never been picked, just waited around each time. They should just send out that questionnaire a week or two ahead so that people who will never get picked can avoid the hassle.
trlcavscout
01-03-2013, 12:25
The problem i have with it is 1) not everyone gets called, my wife for one has never had to go but i get it once every other year? So i know a lot of other people never get called either. And 2) i never get called to a case which would get me out of work for a few days haha.
DANGERTASTIC!
01-03-2013, 12:30
Okay so how many times you think you should be "Required" to attend. Ive done this garbage in Co. 3 times.
Now they want it again.
I've never been picked... my mother has been picked 3 times, my aunt twice, but me, not once... [Dunno]
RCCrawler
01-03-2013, 12:41
I've got summoned a few times, but never had to go in. Have a family member that was on a trial for almost the entire month of December, and ended up having to use all of her vacation time she had been saving for her honeymoon so she could still pay her bills.
I called in a DUI driver in August 2011 and he was arrested. In August 2012 I was summoned to testify on the case, showed up and was told it was postponed and I was resummoned to go back in October, showed up for that one and was told it was postponed again and I needed to come back in January. So I have now missed 2 half days of work and still haven't even showed up to the trial. They sure make it hard for me to want to get involved with turning someone in again.
I've gotten the letter a few times. Although I always tell them that my wifes a cop. Get off everytime. Father in law gets one about every 3 mos.
newracer
01-03-2013, 12:47
Do it, it is your civic duty. Both the defendants and the victims deserve quality people to be on the jury.
My wife was just on a jury for a murder/sexual assault case, lasted 2 weeks. They found him guilty.
We were both surprised she was picked as she has a criminal justice degree, worked as a deputy sheriff for several years, and is currently working as a paralegal.
Jackrabbit
01-03-2013, 12:48
I love jury duty. I was the jury foreman last time. Defendant plead the 5th, which was interesting. It's amazing to be in the room after the trial and see people's opinions and watch them get swayed by other jurors.
It's our last defense against BS laws in this country. I would hope I got someone like me on my jury if I ever needed one. You know, someone who understands jury nullification and the Constitution?
Do your fellow man a favor and do not avoid it.
Picked. Missed a week of work. Sent the SOB away for a long time. Made, I believe, $100. Self employed and might have made more per hour doing my "civic duty". (sad, I know) Considered it a forced vacation and used it to recharge my batteries, not to mention, was kind of interesting
SuperiorDG
01-03-2013, 12:50
This one of the best ways to learn about our legal system and to get to know who our judges are. It's worth your time and is your duty as a citizen.
i got picked once but didnt have to do anything....i thought it was neat to be involved in our legal system in a way other then fighting traffic tickets
ruthabagah
01-03-2013, 13:26
It's your/our civic duty. Imagine a system where there will be no juror..... Are you ready to trust the judicial system to make sound decisions?
RCCrawler
01-03-2013, 13:33
My thoughts are very much in line with Doug Stanhope on this issue.
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I agree it blows but your one day off work could be a lifetime for the person on trial (either way)
Aloha_Shooter
01-03-2013, 13:58
It's your civic duty. We need people on juries that can think ... on second thought, based on your rant, skip it and stay home ...
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I got picked once and they asked me if I had a problem with drug dealers... I replied with Not really they're just trying to make a living. They didn't pick me.
If your freedom was about to be taken by the state, who would you want to sit on your jury and judge your guilt or innocence? Unemployed housewives and welfare dependents who don't care about missing work because they don't; or a yeoman citizen who knows what the words "personal responsibility" mean because they live by them everyday.
Anyone who wants off of a jury can easily open their mouth and get themselves excused. For those citizens willing to give up some of their time to sit in judgment of evidence against another citizen, you have my gratitude.
Public service comes in many forms. Voting and jury duty are some of the least onerous methods of serving our nation.
Be safe.
Do it, it is your civic duty. Both the defendants and the victims deserve quality people to be on the jury.
My wife was just on a jury for a murder/sexual assault case, lasted 2 weeks. They found him guilty.
Agree, everyone gets up in arms because it happens so rarely, but when it happens to them they have to take off of work. Just do it, and enjoy being a part of what you normally only see on Law & Order episodes!
I also got called a few years ago, and it was a very educating and rewarding experience. I got to help put a Thornton major douchebag Nazi skinhead CrystalMeth dealer in jail for many years. Got to hear from undercover officers, and a play by play of the huge SWAT raid, etc. Would do jury duty again for sure, I enjoyed it! ROT IN JAIL SHITHEAD!!
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I've never been picked either and I've lived here since March 2006.... I wonder if being on the permit holders list in my county, if it reduces my chance of being summoned for jury duty? hmm...
I'd be happy to if necessary, but don't really "want" to per say.
Suck it up and do it right.
Imagine how you'd feel if you were on trial for something and the jury wasn't even listening to your defense arguments.
Suck it up and do it right.
Imagine how you'd feel if you were on trial for something and the jury wasn't even listening to your defense arguments.
You'd make a good foreman :)
I got called up last year. I was the first alternate. When they dismissed someone, they asked me to move over to the jury panel. As soon as my butt hit the chair the defense asked me to be dismissed. That's the closest I've ever been to being selected.
I doubt I'll ever be selected. I'm too principled. Since I'm not in business for myself, I still get paid for a half day of wasting my time. Next time, I should plan on going to the range after my dismissal around lunch time.
SA Friday
01-03-2013, 14:43
Never been called and I doubt I would make a panel even after being called. Some counties are way more busy than others. So where you live has a lot to do with getting called. If I remember correctly, they use voter registrations to choose jury pools.
It is your duty as an American.
When people TRY to get off by saying their wife/brother/etc is a cop/attorney/etc. colors you as a person who does not want to serve and will usually get you removed from the pool because they know you won't do a good job if you don't want to be there. I have several close personal friends that are LE, including a JeffCO Captain, a city Cheif, a County Prosecutor, and a Secret Service agent, plus I am an expert witness with professional licesnes and close to 100 pieces of testimony. When I got called, I went in, figured I would be dismissed, but got seated and then voted to be the Jury Foreman.
In my jury polling afterwards, I asked both the Judge and the attorneys how someone like me got seated. They answered about the same...they want clear thinkers willing to fulfill their Civic duty. Also realize that there are City, County, State and Federal courts. So if you live in Lakewood, you have 4 courts that can get your name, usually from the rolls of registered voters. I personally know LEOs and attorneys that have been seated on a Jury.
Kraven251
01-03-2013, 14:50
Been picked for Federal and twice for State while I lived in PA. Uncle was State Police, Father was USMC, Brother had a DUI, and Mother is on disability after a traffic accident almost broke her spine...and I am a member of the NRA
So yeah, would love if I could just fill out the questionnaire and they can tell me I am not who they are looking for in a juror.
I was happy to go in and be part of the process, but it totaled 6 days of waiting, and I never made it to jury selection.
Aloha_Shooter
01-03-2013, 15:50
I've never been picked either and I've lived here since March 2006.... I wonder if being on the permit holders list in my county, if it reduces my chance of being summoned for jury duty? hmm...
I'd be happy to if necessary, but don't really "want" to per say.
Doubtful. I don't think your CCW status is even available to the people running the random selection process. I had a notice to report for jury duty last month but my "number" placed me in the afternoon block. When I called in at 1130 as instructed, the message said none of the afternoon block was needed. Pity as I actually wanted to participate.
I got called up last year. I was the first alternate. When they dismissed someone, they asked me to move over to the jury panel. As soon as my butt hit the chair the defense asked me to be dismissed. That's the closest I've ever been to being selected.
I doubt I'll ever be selected. I'm too principled. Since I'm not in business for myself, I still get paid for a half day of wasting my time. Next time, I should plan on going to the range after my dismissal around lunch time.
Any idea why you were dismissed immediately?
electronman1729
01-03-2013, 16:30
My wife got called to grand jury a few years back. Luckly she wasnt an american citizen, so she got out of it (We were not married at the time, BTW)
whitbaby
01-03-2013, 16:49
I actually got selected one time in JeffCo. It was a drug case, they'd just started describing what it was about and the lab techs were presenting what they'd found as evidence and the defense lawyer started wanting the jury excused for some silly shit. This went on and on about six times and we were getting pissed. While we were in the jury room one of the jurors mentioned that he'd read that traces of drugs could be found on 90% of the US currency.
One of the jurors went running to the judge that we'd been discussing the case, not really, and he and the defense atty got a mistrial and threw us all out after two days of jumping through hoops. And no menial pay.
Kinda left a sour taste in my mouth about the court systems.
mahabali
01-03-2013, 16:57
I had it a few months ago. Waited in the big selection room for about an hour. They called several groups of people and sent them to various court rooms. Then they finally did call me and I had to go up to the 3rd floor and wait for about another hour outside a court room. They finally called us in (about 30 of us). Then the called 12 of us to the jury box.
It was for a 6 man jury. The judge then told us a little about how it was going to work and asked us basic questions. She dismissed 2 people (who seemed basically retarded, or maybe they were just acting). Then 2 more joined. This process was about another hour. Then we all got to stand up and go down a list telling about ourselves. Then both attorneys questioned everyone, about another hour and then dismissed 3 each. I was the last person dismissed by the defense. So I basically spent the longest possible time without actually serving.
Snowman78
01-03-2013, 17:10
I have been picked twice and loved it!!
blacklabel
01-03-2013, 17:26
I went through a two day selection process for an attempted murder/witness intimidation case. I would have gladly served.
funkymonkey1111
01-03-2013, 17:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MFebZlUJ7E
Any idea why you were dismissed immediately?
All you have to do is talk to me to figure out I don't operate in 50 shades of grey. My values are almost entirely black & white, and I'm not shy. [Neene3]
We had to fill out questionnaires and I'm sure they already planned on dismissing me. I was just the second to go. Several others followed me out. It was a DUI case.
aaron734
01-03-2013, 18:25
I am not a fan of the jury system in civil cases. In criminal cases, its really important though and if you are on the panel, you had better take it seriously.
I can totally understand the frustration with the process though. For 90% of the people that show up, it amounts to nothing more than an inconvenience.
Although, I would not mind it if I got called - I watch from the other side, so being on a jury could be kind of fun for me. I have a feeling that I would never get picked, even if I got in the box for questioning.
funkymonkey1111
01-03-2013, 18:29
i was called in 1989. haven't been called since for some reason
Diesel24
01-03-2013, 19:06
I've been summoned many times but never had to show up after calling the recorded message line. I actually think it would be a fun experience to hear a trial though.
FWIW, I did enjoy the experience. When I testify in court now, I spend a lot more time looking at the Jury when I talk.
bigun1962
01-03-2013, 19:09
Not sure why most people want to rant. Freedom is not free. Maybe we could hold tribunals or maybe let a king decide our fate. We have to have checks and balances or we will turn into something we fought to be away from. Most socieities would give a nut for "common" people to sit on a jury.
Not sure why most people want to rant. Freedom is not free. Maybe we could hold tribunals or maybe let a king decide our fate. We have to have checks and balances or we will turn into something we fought to be away from. Most socieities would give a nut for "common" people to sit on a jury.
You think "Checks and balances" actually work?
johngraves2
01-03-2013, 20:33
I served on a case while in college, most interesting thing i have ever done, and got out of my classes. you learn so much doing it. plus after 2 days they pay you for mileage plus i think it was $50 a day for every day served and they gave you donuts every morning, so being a college student i was happy.
Now with a full time job I would not be happy if i was summoned, especially if i was not selected to do it, but i was still go.
I will say that if you are summoned and you work a normal 9-5 job you better not make up a crap excuse to not do it, it is your duty to go, you would want a fair jury if you got arrested. If you are self employed i can understand an argument to get out of going.
I served on a case while in college, most interesting thing i have ever done, and got out of my classes. you learn so much doing it. plus after 2 days they pay you for mileage plus i think it was $50 a day for every day served and they gave you donuts every morning, so being a college student i was happy.
Now with a full time job I would not be happy if i was summoned, especially if i was not selected to do it, but i was still go.
I will say that if you are summoned and you work a normal 9-5 job you better not make up a crap excuse to not do it, it is your duty to go, you would want a fair jury if you got arrested. If you are self employed i can understand an argument to get out of going.
Uh nope. I'd want a good lawyer that made sure I never got to trial =).
RYAN50BMG
01-03-2013, 21:09
It's Jury "Duty", not Jury "If you feel like it". Welcome to America. I don't see the differance between work and jury duty. It's my place of duty for that day. Plus, a day to chill, read a book and look at hot lawyer ass? OK.
Troublco
01-03-2013, 21:55
I've been summoned 3 times, picked twice, and served once. One went all the way up to where we were about to hear the case and the defendant got some some of deal. The one I actually served on, I wound up as the Jury foreman. I think the only reason I made it past jury selection was they had already used up their quick and easy dismissals by the time they got to me. It was educational, and I agree with those who say that we should have people who actually give a darn on juries so the process can at least have a chance of working like it's supposed to.
The case I served on? We found him guilty, and then got to hear about his record...wow...made the one lady that was with us who was doing a lot of hand-wringing feel better.
It is our civic duty...I served this past year for the first time and it was a very enlightening experience. Everyone should participate at least once in their lives.
gnihcraes
01-03-2013, 22:29
It is our/your civic duty.
Your attitude makes the difference of how well it goes for you.
Be nice to the court employees, they catch enough grief from the other 600 jurors each monday.
Plan to be there most of the day, and possibly the whole week depending on what it's for.
Tell your employer about it, they can verify your attendance electronically when you return.
Bring something to read.
Tinelement
01-03-2013, 22:33
If you don't wanna serve,
walk in with your Klans hat on...........
*[sarcasm]*
I got selected, was the foreman, and tried to send this dirt bag to prison. The other jurors had mush for brains and it was a hung jury. I wish I could check up on the results of the retrial.
I've been selected and ended up on the jury. I spent 6 days in the courtroom hearing testimony. It certainly was not the most fun experience in my life but it was one of the most interesting and eye opening experiences I have ever had.
If it were you being tried would you want a bunch of dumb fucks who were to stupid to get out of jury duty ruling on your case? Or.. would you want someone such as yourself who is capable of hearing facts for what they are and providing a truly fair and honest judgement? Our system only works if we provide the resources to keep it working.
If your freedom was about to be taken by the state, who would you want to sit on your jury and judge your guilt or innocence? Unemployed housewives and welfare dependents who don't care about missing work because they don't; or a yeoman citizen who knows what the words "personal responsibility" mean because they live by them everyday.
Anyone who wants off of a jury can easily open their mouth and get themselves excused. For those citizens willing to give up some of their time to sit in judgment of evidence against another citizen, you have my gratitude. Public service comes in many forms. Voting and jury duty are some of the least onerous methods of serving our nation. Be safe.
THIS!
Not sure why most people want to rant. Freedom is not free. Maybe we could hold tribunals or maybe let a king decide our fate. We have to have checks and balances or we will turn into something we fought to be away from. Most socieities would give a nut for "common" people to sit on a jury.
And this.
@ LarryDavid: That show is hilarious! Ever see the one where he is taking care of a German Shepard and it only barks at black folks? Wow, needless to say, painful shenanigans ensue, poor Larry, he always gets the shaft, deservingly mostly, heh.
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