What will you do?

[jgang]

Withdrawn

[ruthabagah]

Whatever happen, will probably be reversed by the next conservative administration. But to answer your question, I do have a large container I can use to bury stuff and wait for the next administration's decision.

[Gman]

The answer to that question should be known by the folks you're asking. The answer definitely should not be posted to a public Internet forum.

[jerrymrc]

You guys just keep wanting to put up stuff that in the end will not go well.

[TFOGGER]

Theoretically, we'll see civil disobedience on a massive scale. As much as they'd like to, they are never going to get the genie back in the bottle.

[Sawin]

As far as I know, Americans are not required to adhere to unconstitutional laws.

[2ndAmendment]

The answer to that question should be known by the folks you're asking. The answer definitely should not be posted to a public Internet forum.



Very true. About 99% of people here will not be giving up or burring anything ( know what I mean)

[Gman]

If you even have something to give up or bury. Will I have to give up my Nerf arsenal?

[jgang]

You guys just keep wanting to put up stuff that end the end will not go well.

So you think youre safe because you dont talk about "it?" Heres a newsflash for you...youre 3973 posts too late, just like the rest of us. Point is, each of us has our own threshhold for pain...physical, emotional or government-induced.

[Pancho Villa]

Don't ask, don't tell. Duh.

[jgang]

If you even have something to give up or burry.

Exactly. But I dont think anyone is buying the swamped boat story, funny as it is..

[jerrymrc]

So you think youre safe because you dont talk about "it?" Heres a newsflash for you...youre 3973 posts too late, just like the rest of us. Point is, each of us has our own threshhold for pain...physical, emotional or government-induced.

Not the FUCKING point at all. Here is a newsflash for you...... It has nothing to do with what I think or believe but since ya want to call me out on it you get it your way.

[h8monday]

The answer to that question should be known by the folks you're asking. The answer definitely should not be posted to a public Internet forum.

I disagree. This is a constitutional right we are talking about. It is not subversive or treasonous to talk about defending these rights with our lives. WE shouldn't be made to feel like terrorist or extremists to discuss these things.

[Fmedges]

Keeping it ready to go as needed.

[Squeeze]

The answer to that question should be known by the folks you're asking. The answer definitely should not be posted to a public Internet forum.

^^^THIS. I own nothing, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[Fmedges]

I disagree. This is a constitutional right we are talking about. It is not subversive or treasonous to talk about defending these rights with our lives. WE shouldn't be made to feel like terrorist or extremists to discuss these things.

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[spyder]

I don't know about you guys... but if anything passes, I'm going on vacation to Lake Powell to get some fishing in. :)

[Tinelement]

The answer to that question should be known by the folks you're asking. The answer definitely should not be posted to a public Internet forum.

Winner!

Not that most of have anything to talk about anyway since the boating accident.

[jerrymrc]

I disagree. This is a constitutional right we are talking about. It is not subversive or treasonous to talk about defending these rights with our lives. WE shouldn't be made to feel like terrorist or extremists to discuss these things.

But it is a private forum. Not saying I agree or disagree with many points but openly saying some of the things many are saying brings undue lighting on the site and it's members. Just saying.

[Gman]

I don't know about you guys... but if anything passes, I'm going on vacation to Lake Powell to get some fishing in. :)
Let me know if you fish up the AR that went to the bottom when the canoe rolled over.

It's one thing if/when it hits the fan and you do what you have to. It's entirely another to be talking about what you would do before you have to act. Look up the word "conspiracy".

I also have to take issue with the term "Constitutional right". Our rights were given to us 'by our creator' before there ever was a Constitution. The authors of the document understood this. Self-preservation is a natural right. That right is protected from the Federal government by the 2nd Amendment, not granted by it.

[h8monday]

I also have to take issue with the term "Constitutional right". Our rights were given to us 'by our creator' before there ever was a Constitution. The authors of the document understood this. Self-preservation is a natural right. That right is protected from the Federal government by the 2nd Amendment, not granted by it.

We are lucky to have law that guarantees our God given rights.

Courage is contagious. It's nice to know there are a few out there who have steeled their resolve.

[Just me]

I, for one, have been hugely motivated to engage with my representatives at state and federal levels. The postcard campaign is one way for our voices to be heard.....whether or not our elected officials listen is another matter entirely.

[TFOGGER]

I, for one, have been hugely motivated to engage with my representatives at state and federal levels. The postcard campaign is one way for our voices to be heard.....whether or not our elected officials listen is another matter entirely.

Employees can be fired. They should be made aware of this.

[Gman]

My in-laws were born in Nazi occupied Holland. It's amazing what they don't talk about, even at family gatherings, to this day. They understood what happened when you made what you thought were innocent comments, maybe about religion or politics or whatever, that later may cost you your freedom or your life.

I think there's a lesson in wisdom in there.

[Skully]

My in-laws were born in Nazi occupied Holland. It's amazing what they don't talk about, even at family gatherings, to this day. They understood what happened when you made what you thought were innocent comments, maybe about religion or politics or whatever, that later may cost you your freedom or your life.

I think there's a lesson in wisdom in there.

At some point you must stand for your principles though and not hide.

Others WILL follow. Organizing and hanging out with people of like mind helps a lot as well; however, all information is on a need to know basis. [Coffee]

[bogie]

I foresee a record number of Colorado boating accidents in 2013.

Just so everybody in the world knows, I'm hereby announcing to the internet that I have discarded all firearms from my person and worldly possessions. Any pictures I use in future posts will be fictitious, and merely represent what I wish I had in this world, and any future discussions on firearms will be hypothetical.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

Not the FUCKING point at all. Here is a newsflash for you...... It has nothing to do with what I think or believe but since ya want to call me out on it you get it your way.
That's the Jerry I know and love!! [Beer]

[DSB OUTDOORS]

Bottom line, if a ban does go into effect. Which I hope it wont. It will start a Civil War in America. Citizens VS Government on a very high plain! And I for one will not give up my rights for any one. If having a weapon is a crime? Than I will be the most honest, law abiding, Criminal I know. Having lost those dar things in boating accident! Or buried somewhere in The Great sand dunes.

[Teufelhund]

This particular redneck will be returning to a red State, where I can be certain I will not be the only one shooting back. I will be taking all my guns with me; I don't even own a boat.

[CO303]

Bottom line, if a ban does go into effect. Which I hope it wont. It will start a Civil War in America. Citizens VS Government on a very high plain! And I for one will not give up my rights for any one. If having a weapon is a crime? Than I will be the most honest, law abiding, Criminal I know. Having lost those dar things in boating accident! Or buried somewhere in The Great sand dunes.

That's fine. But we get to keep the Stars and Stripes. They have to use that communist, agricultural coop symbol.

[streetglideok]

This is one of those topics, that though most might agree on what would happen, etc, it is best not discussed here in the open. I have my thoughts on the subject, but I wouldn't want to put it out here, so the feds can round us all up.

[Great-Kazoo]

What ever i choose to do sure as hell wouldn't be posted on the internet.

[Great-Kazoo]

That's fine. But we get to keep the Stars and Stripes. They have to use that communist, agricultural coop symbol.

"THEY" Already have a flag it's red, white and blue, only instead of stars it has Fearless Leaders face on it. Remember how fast that symbol disappeared,for now?

[Teufelhund]

If they want to come round us up for acknowledging what they already know about us, the net effect is the same.

[Kraven251]

When you think it’s time to bury your guns, it’s really time to dig them up

Something my brother has always said, "Everyone is a hero, until the blood starts flowing." If this whole scenario goes south in a big way, the reality of what is happening will shatter minds and render the general populace useless. It is not an issue of what you will hide, it is a simple matter of what will you do. I have never been placed in a situation where I have had to take a life, and I sincerely hope I never am, but as someone has already said, once the genie is out of the bottle it isn't ever going back in. So let's hope it never comes to that.

[NMB2]

Unfortunately I have had the displeasure of being shot at and having to shoot at people... as I'm sure there are a few more on this board. Practice and muscle memory is your friend, because the plan is only good until contact is made... then the plan went out the fucking window. Your brain shuts down... going into tunnel vision of sorts, you go into auto pilot. Order will come out of the chaos.

I think the most difficult thing for me would be that its my own people, not the taliban. But an enemy is an enemy.... you have to stow that shit and drive on hooah.

Patriots in our countries past have been through this, and they survived while preserving our country. You can rest assured, a stronger people, and a stronger.....more loophole free Constitution will come of this.

[newracer]

I am not afraid to post it, I will simply not comply. MOLON LABE

[BushMasterBoy]

I think having a dedicated representative on the inside is the only answer. Maybe even legislating an official state militia? Is that even constitutional? If they are gonna pay unemployment, why can't they just pay them to guard the schools & theaters.

[Fmedges]

Unfortunately I have had the displeasure of being shot at and having to shoot at people... as I'm sure there are a few more on this board. Practice and muscle memory is your friend, because the plan is only good until contact is made... then the plan went out the fucking window. Your brain shuts down... going into tunnel vision of sorts, you go into auto pilot. Order will come out of the chaos.

I think the most difficult thing for me would be that its my own people, not the taliban. But an enemy is an enemy.... you have to stow that shit and drive on hooah.

Patriots in our countries past have been through this, and they survived while preserving our country. You can rest assured, a stronger people, and a stronger.....more loophole free Constitution will come of this.

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[brokenscout]

I will comply with the United States Constitution... That is all

[Gman]

At some point you must stand for your principles though and not hide.
Precisely. I have principles I'll risk my life to defend. I just choose to not advertise mine and my strategy on the Internet...where they'll live forever and be used by an undefined audience.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Not the FUCKING point at all. Here is a newsflash for you...... It has nothing to do with what I think or believe but since ya want to call me out on it you get it your way.

Well played, sir. Well played.

[Great-Kazoo]

So you think youre safe because you dont talk about "it?" Heres a newsflash for you...youre 3973 posts too late, just like the rest of us. Point is, each of us has our own threshhold for pain...physical, emotional or government-induced.

Jgang, Jerry has more spent casings on the ground than you probably have in your entire ammo stash. To do a mud check on him is inexcusable. I've known him (web wise) since the formation of the falfiles. You have 159[ish] post since 09and question him, get real.

[HoneyBadger]

Jgang, Jerry has more spent casings on the ground than you probably have in your entire ammo stash. To do a mud check on him is inexcusable. I've known him (web wise) since the formation of the falfiles. You have 159[ish] post since 09and question him, get real.


lol rookie got pwned.

As much as I would love to use the internet and this forum to organize and draw a consistent line in the sand, that's just not a good idea. We need to be a little "old school" about this and be careful about sharing such information.

[HBARleatherneck]

actually JGANG is a US Army Man. He is a good guy, just because he doesnt have a high post count doesnt mean anything. He may have done something this time to push the wrong buttons. He is a like minded guy, who is from the area. I hope he gets to come back as JGANG.

[HoneyBadger]

actually JGANG is a US Army Man. He is a good guy, just because he doesnt have a high post count doesnt mean anything. He may have done something this time to push the wrong buttons. He is a like minded guy, who is from the area. I hope he gets to come back as JGANG.


I'm sure he is a good guy... He just attacked Jerry. BAD DECISION! lol

I completely understand his frustration though... If we cannot ever get organized, we are just going to succumb, one by one, until there is nobody left to defend the constitution.

[Monky]

I'm sure he is a good guy... He just attacked Jerry. BAD DECISION! lol

I completely understand his frustration though... If we cannot ever get organized, we are just going to succumb, one by one, until there is nobody left to defend the constitution.

Tons of people attack each other on here daily.. look at the other threads.. who gives a fuck who gets called out. Go watch Honey Boo Boo if you can't take being questioned. Poor form indeed.

[BigDee]

My reaction will be based on the extent of the measures passed and whether or not the measures are statewide or nation wide.

If there are state bans enacted I'm moving my family to a state where they recognize the 2A. I will also be contacting every family member I have here that voted for the democrats to tell them to fuck off and never speak to me again.

If its at a national level I'm still not sure what ill do aside from contacting every single person I know that voted democrat and telling them to go fuck themselves.

[jerrymrc]

actually JGANG is a US Army Man. He is a good guy, just because he doesnt have a high post count doesnt mean anything. He may have done something this time to push the wrong buttons. He is a like minded guy, who is from the area. I hope he gets to come back as JGANG.

The Ginsue said it best.
What I would do is prohibit & remove conversations that could later be used as evidence of potential conspiracy.

Discussion of intention to violate the law (current or future) is called conspiracy. To discuss plans out in the open is begging to get this site shut down as well as midnight raids to homes. Constitutional or not, if these laws go on the books, they are the law. This nation does have processes in places to appeal/repeal UnConstitutional laws.

I have nothing against him at all and he will be back. Actully he already is but that account has not been deleted. I guess in the future I need to just remove the issue instead of trying to nudge the membership into realizing that the path they are on is not a good one. All it seems to do is wind people up because they can't read between the lines.

Like I said it has nothing to do with me and/or what I believe. It has everything to do with the site and its members.

[brokenscout]

I agree theres a lot of bickering lately, we have a real fight on our hands and its not with each other on this forum
Tons of people attack each other on here daily.. look at the other threads.. who gives a fuck who gets called out. Go watch Honey Boo Boo if you can't take being questioned. Poor form indeed.

[Gman]

Wow. Sorry to see that this became so heated. I understand that folks are passionate, but we've got to be smart about it.

I get the feeling that there are a large number of us that understand the issue and have a number of strategies in mind...depending on the situation. We're unified in defending the principles that founded this great nation. I've discussed these openly with my wife, but you won't see them here. I try to be a good boy scout and "be prepared".

I don't think you have to be clinically diagnosed with paranoia to understand that statements here could be used in a court to make an act of self-defense into a premeditated act based on previous comments on the web.

When the time comes, only YOU will know when it's time for you to act.

[roberth]

The way I see it everything we all own right now will be grandfathered in IF there is a law passed, and that is a mighty big IF. There will not be a confiscation. There might be restrictions on future manufacturing and sales but I don't see that coming either due to the constitutional and economic impact among other things.

Reasons why there will not be a confiscation

1. Federal, state, and local authorities simply do not have the manpower to enforce a confiscation, even at 100% participation by all parties ordered to participate.
2. I do not believe that the majority of people who the government would prefer to use in a confiscation will participate in the confiscation. They'll refuse their orders and go home because they know confiscation is against the constitution and they'll put their own families and friends ahead of what the government wants them to do.
3. Of those who would/might participate in a confiscation many won't because everybody wants to go home in one piece on any given day. They won't participate because the risks to themselves would be so great and if there is one thing that all these people share it is a craven selfishness and a strong sense of self preservation. When was the last time a mullah committed a homicide bombing, probably never because they have useful idiots for that sort of thing, the same thing applies to the leadership in this country that would impose such a law.
4. This is an enormous country, there are 310 million people across 3.7 million square miles. Once again, not enough man power or drones and the personnel to operate drones, etc. and so forth.