So I get a laff everyday...

[dwalker460]

I apologize in advance if this is one of our dear members, but I just had a good chuckle over this email reply to my advert on Armslist for my little carbine-


I'm interested. I live in Denver.
I will want the weapon inspected by a professional gunsmith.
I will pay.
I will buy only if background checks are completed.
That covers you and that covers me.
I have already tentatively set-up the above


All of which I am OK with, I mean who am I to argue if a guy wants to spend money on a local FFL transfer and wait until it clears before getting what he has paid for. And of course any buyer is entitled to and encouraged to pursue a professional opinion before throwing down your hard earned cash.




Here is my reply-


I have no problem with an inspection. I recommend Bert at BP Tactical OR Rob at
Bowers Tactical.
If you really want to wait for a week to take possession waiting on a 4473 to
clear, thats fine by me. Bowers Tactical is again convenient, although Lock and
Load Armory is not far from my shop and the Blunderbuss is across the street.
Castle Arms, Firing line, etc. are also somewhat convenient.

I just find it a little humorous I guess.

[Sharpienads]

I wouldn't do that personally, but with the panic in full force, it might not be a bad idea.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Ah, you are getting a clingy buyer. One of those who might call you again and again over the simplest thing. So, Am I an asshole for always asking guys that seem to be uptight or first time gun buyer if he/she voted for Obama?

[Ashton]

Ah, you are getting a clingy buyer. One of those who might call you again and again over the simplest thing. So, Am I an asshole for always asking guys that seem to be uptight or first time gun buyer if he/she voted for Obama?

This is why burner phones were created.

[Ridge]

Ah, you are getting a clingy buyer. One of those who might call you again and again over the simplest thing.

Which is why, when I sell a gun, I stipulate that I don't offer any warranties or refunds.

[00tec]

Which is why, when I sell a gun, I stipulate that I don't offer any warranties or refunds.

Which is why if I sell anything on armslist or craigslist, I use a Google voice number. Disposable, and I can filter it rather well.

[merl]

Which is why, when I sell a gun, I stipulate that I don't offer any warranties or refunds.

the lack of any warranty or refund combined with a lack of knowledge to properly evaluate an item means it should be inspected by someone who does know. That part is just wise.

as for him wanting a FFL transfer, you'd have to meet him somewhere anyway. Not like you have to wait around for it to finish, if he fails the check that is between him and the FFL to sort out.

[dwalker460]

Yeah like I said I dont care on way or the other, its just a little odd to me.

[Great-Kazoo]

Yeah like I said I dont care on way or the other, its just a little odd to me.

How much is your time worth to go from here to there and back? IF he fails to pass the BG then you have to wait 2 weeks (current time frame) to get the gun back. This could cost you X amount of time and loss of potential sale.

[MrPrena]

This type of buyer requires "AS IS" form signed after inspection.

[dwalker460]

How much is your time worth to go from here to there and back? IF he fails to pass the BG then you have to wait 2 weeks (current time frame) to get the gun back. This could cost you X amount of time and loss of potential sale.

As always, Jim cuts right to the heart of the issue. I had thought of my time actually, which is why I recommended my preferred, and convenient for me, locations for his requests, but you hit the unseen nail right on the head- if he fails the BG then I do have to wait, which is a huge PITA for me. This will bear further discussion...

[SideShow Bob]

Yeah like I said I dont care on way or the other, its just a little odd to me.

The way his response is worded, it sounds like he wants you to do a form 4473 also as the seller. ????

[Timothy]

cash or check?

[dwalker460]

The way his response is worded, it sounds like he wants you to do a form 4473 also as the seller. ????


Yeah I kinda got that too, which is just strange. I am guessing what he wants is some sort of check to make sure its not stolen or something, but thats going to add to hi costs exponentially.

[dwalker460]

cash or check?


You should always check your cash to make sure you have enough when shopping for expensive items..

[Irving]

He doesn't eant you to do a 4473 as the seller, he is just naive enough to think that going through an FFLwill protect both of you.

[merl]

How much is your time worth to go from here to there and back? IF he fails to pass the BG then you have to wait 2 weeks (current time frame) to get the gun back. This could cost you X amount of time and loss of potential sale.

way I see it, you have the money, FFL has the gun. You have sold it, not your problem anymore. The issue is between the buyer and the FFL, who may have just gotten a free gun to resell.

[Byte Stryke]

on the BoS, Stipulate that there is a 50% Restocking fee and a 50% hold fee of the total sale price if the buyer is deemed ineligible to purchase the firearm.
Make him sign it
:D

[Great-Kazoo]

way I see it, you have the money, FFL has the gun. You have sold it, not your problem anymore. The issue is between the buyer and the FFL, who may have just gotten a free gun to resell.

If the buyer gets a DENY the gun is in limbo. The seller migth not want to pay in full prior to sale. A possible 50% down balance upon approval. Either way Unless it's a "tired listing" and no other nibbles on it. I'd shine the buyer on. UNLESS IT'S DDwhatever the fuck his board name is. based on his lack of spine in the other thread he started. DW would be castigated and -1 until the end of time. Of course he would only "Hint" who it was with out actually naming names[LOL]

[ChadAmberg]

As always, Jim cuts right to the heart of the issue. I had thought of my time actually, which is why I recommended my preferred, and convenient for me, locations for his requests, but you hit the unseen nail right on the head- if he fails the BG then I do have to wait, which is a huge PITA for me. This will bear further discussion...

Remember, ownership and possession are two different things.
You sell him the gun when you walk into the FFL to meet him and he pays. You're done. He owns it. The FFL will let him know when he can take possession of the item that the new owner is storing at the FFL. If he fails, well then he can work it out with the FFL to sell it to someone else.