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Melvin

01-08-2013, 11:38

All those who scoffed at people who said going down the road of "normalizing" fudge packers was a slippery slope may now be swallowing hard trying to eat their words. I love it when the tolerant are made to eat crow.

As Rush said yesterday, try thinking back to the first time you heard someone suggest the concept of gay marriage and your gut reaction. As Ian Anderson sang, "The train keeps going and it wont slow down".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light
Paedophilia: bringing dark desires to light

The Jimmy Savile scandal caused public revulsion, but experts disagree about what causes paedophilia - and even how much harm it causes

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This is radical stuff. But there is a growing conviction, notably in Canada, that paedophilia should probably be classified as a distinct sexual orientation, like heterosexuality or homosexuality. Two eminent researchers testified to that effect to a Canadian parliamentary commission last year (http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=4959361&Language=E&Mode=1), and the Harvard Mental Health Letter of July 2010 stated baldly (http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletters/Harvard_Mental_Health_Letter/2010/July/pessimism-about-pedophilia) that paedophilia "is a sexual orientation" and therefore "unlikely to change".

Ronin13

01-08-2013, 11:50

Dave_L

01-08-2013, 11:56

the best we can do is try and respect others' without infringing upon their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

I love how that's supposed to apply until the dems find something they don't like. Then it's 0 tolerance.

Melvin

01-08-2013, 12:08

Your argument kinda lost traction when you said "fudge packers." Whether you agree with it or not, it's here, it's not going anywhere, and the best we can do is try and respect others' without infringing upon their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

Ah! Political Correctness. Paralyzing western society for 40 years. And do explain how that nullifies the seriousness of the topic? Or is it that the topict is a little too close for comfort?
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Snowman78

01-08-2013, 12:19

Ronin13

01-08-2013, 12:19

I love how that's supposed to apply until the dems find something they don't like. Then it's 0 tolerance.
Yes, but we're supposed to take the higher road and not stoop to their level... IE: "I don't force anyone to buy a gun, but they want to disarm me. I don't force anyone to hunt, but they wanna ban my ability to hunt. I don't force anyone to eat meat, but they push to ban meat. These are lunatics that propose this crap." -Uncle Ted Nugent.

Ah! Political Correctness. Paralyzing western society for 40 years. And do explain how that nullifies the seriousness of the topic? Or is it that the topict is a little too close for comfort?
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When you stoop to a level just above pawn scum you come off as a bigot and intolerant yourself, and thus just proves that your argument is based on blind hate instead of factual reference. And by you insinuating that I'm a homosexual just proves how blatantly ignorant and bigoted you are... For the record, my uncle was a homosexual, and I'd be willing to bet, before he died in 1988, he was 10x the person you would ever dream of being. I don't agree with political correctness, but I'm not a rampant anti-gay, homophobic, bigot like you. If they chose that lifestyle that's their choice, "what another eats doesn't make me shit." So pump the brakes Mel.

Teufelhund

01-08-2013, 12:24

All of our rights come with certain responsibilities. Children do not possess the mental maturity to make these decisions and it is the responsibility of adults (ETA: their legal guardians) to help make decisions for them. This applies in every circumstance. Pedophilia is not the same animal as homosexuality.

blacklabel

01-08-2013, 12:27

All of our rights come with certain responsibilities. Children do not possess the mental maturity to make these decisions and it is the responsibility of adults to help make decisions for them. This applies in every circumstance. Pedophilia is not the same animal as homosexuality.

I was just about to post this. What happens between two consenting adults is their business. This is not the case for a minor and an adult.

Gman

01-08-2013, 12:29

Pedophilia is not the same animal as homosexuality.
For a second there, I thought you were bringing beastiality into the conversation...[oops]

Kraven251

01-08-2013, 12:35

I too believe that the laws surrounding pedophilia should be reviewed. I am a firm believer that those that prey on children should experience a long drop while attached to a short rope. I don't want to study them to find out why it happens or what causes these things to happen, nor do I want to see it become some societal debate about their rights, you steal a child's youth, you forfeit your right to continue breathing oxygen.

Rucker61

01-08-2013, 12:38

Ah! Political Correctness. Paralyzing western society for 40 years. And do explain how that nullifies the seriousness of the topic? Or is it that the topict is a little too close for comfort?

Well, I love you, man.

Dave

01-08-2013, 12:41

Pedophilia is not the same animal as homosexuality.

I can not stress this more. And it's the problem I have with a lot of anti gay rhetoric, trying to say that all gay men are out to rape little boys. Or the ones who point out homosexuality is against God's word in the Bible, Leviticus 18:22. But yet trim their hair in violation of Leviticus 19:27, get tattoos even though Leviticus 19:28 says not to. Leviticus 19:19 says not to wear clothing woven of two materials, so say goodbye to poly/cotton blends. If you really believe the word of the Bible, you can't pick and choose which rules to follow.

Teufelhund

01-08-2013, 12:45

For a second there, I thought you were bringing beastiality into the conversation...[oops]

Dude. . . that's just wrong. What a man and his goat decide to do in the privacy of their own home. . . nevermind.

Melvin

01-08-2013, 16:43

When you stoop to a level just above pawn scum you come off as a bigot and intolerant yourself, and thus just proves that your argument is based on blind hate instead of factual reference. And by you insinuating that I'm a homosexual just proves how blatantly ignorant and bigoted you are... For the record, my uncle was a homosexual, and I'd be willing to bet, before he died in 1988, he was 10x the person you would ever dream of being. I don't agree with political correctness, but I'm not a rampant anti-gay, homophobic, bigot like you. If they chose that lifestyle that's their choice, "what another eats doesn't make me shit." So pump the brakes Mel.

In case you hadn't noticed this country is going to hell thanks to "tolerance". I am sure you have got to be the first person I have ever known who calls "Chumlee" scum. If you actually took time to read what I wrote vs projecting your reality on what you want my OP to have said you might have realized that I provided an in depth article from a well established news organization as opposed to offering an opinion.

Again I never said nor implied that you were hoimo. I said maybe you throwing up your straw man was your way of deflecting from the subject of the OP because that was a little too close to home. I have yet to see anything you have said that expresses any disgust with the premise of the OP.

No you are not anti gay. You are a rampant anti-normal, heterophobic bigot. You don't have a corner on the slur market. (although your brand of slur, distraction and deflection is straight out of Alinsky's little debate guide for libs)

Rucker61

01-08-2013, 17:01

Ronin13

01-08-2013, 17:08

In case you hadn't noticed this country is going to hell thanks to "tolerance". I am sure you have got to be the first person I have ever known who calls "Chumlee" scum. If you actually took time to read what I wrote vs projecting your reality on what you want my OP to have said you might have realized that I provided an in depth article from a well established news organization as opposed to offering an opinion.

Again I never said nor implied that you were hoimo. I said maybe you throwing up your straw man was your way of deflecting from the subject of the OP because that was a little too close to home. I have yet to see anything you have said that expresses any disgust with the premise of the OP.

No you are not anti gay. You are a rampant anti-normal, heterophobic bigot. You don't have a corner on the slur market. (although your brand of slur, distraction and deflection is straight out of Alinsky's little debate guide for libs)
There is a big difference between tolerance and being respectful. Yes, I do think pedophilia is disgusting and wrong. No it's not close to anywhere with me (home, work, or parts unknown), never has been, never will be, so yes I do find the subject you posted about to be disgusting, vile, and intolerable... However, that's the UK, same place where stellar examples of the absolute worst of humanity (Piers Morgan) come from.

I didn't project any false reality, I simply stated that by using hateful, and inflammatory words unnecessarily hurts your credibility... which I see now you never had to begin with. Your "anti-normal, heterophobic bigot" remark was sad and ignorant to put it nicely. You need to make up words to better suit your vitriolic rebuttal? And claiming I in any way, shape, or form follow a Socialist hack like Alinsky is just in poor taste. You're new here, so I'll help fill you in, these attacks are sophomoric at best, and I suggest, for fear of reprisal from the MODs, you cool it a bit. I was only saying that we should be more apt to taking the higher road instead of resorting to childish, ignorant, and stupidly hateful remarks like "fudge packer." Then again, if I had to wager a guess, a lot of this went over your head since I can surmise you have yet to graduate the 12th grade.

BigBear

01-08-2013, 17:12

...If you really believe the word of the Bible, you can't pick and choose which rules to follow.

I hate all this "double standard" type rhetoric we always get from Bible haters and Bible Thumpers. Go back and Re-read it, study the customs, history, and culture of the time and the audience the books were written too/for. Leviticus is part of the OT. Jesus paid the price for the OT Law that no man could follow. OT laws and rules are no longer applicable Jesus is your savior, etc. I don't want to get into a theological debate because it will never get anywhere. Know thy self. Know you're own moral obligations, standards, ethics, etc. Love others as you love yourself (Mark 12), etc. We CAN pick and choose because we have free will. Is it right? Only you and your God can answer that.

Love ya Dave, not bashing or calling you out. Just stating my own personal feelings etc. This post is not directed at you even though you're qouted. Not wanting to change/challenge thread.
Thanks.

brokenscout

01-08-2013, 18:14

I like Leviticus, its awesome..[rules]

Dave

01-08-2013, 19:12

I was raised Catholic, OT rules still apply when the Church says so.

KestrelBike

01-08-2013, 19:28

I was just about to post this. What happens between two consenting adults is their business. This is not the case for a minor and an adult.

Unless its a male student and a hot female teacher........

blacklabel

01-08-2013, 19:30

Unless its a male student and a hot female teacher........

That honestly creeps me out as much as straight diddlin' little kids.

hatidua

01-08-2013, 20:17

No you are not anti gay. You are a rampant anti-normal, heterophobic bigot. You don't have a corner on the slur market. (although your brand of slur, distraction and deflection is straight out of Alinsky's little debate guide for libs)

Melvin is making about as nice an entrance as that FIRM & haggle boy a week or two back [Whacko]

hammer03

01-08-2013, 20:29

Ronin13

01-08-2013, 20:55

Melvin is making about as nice an entrance as that FIRM & haggle boy a week or two back [Whacko]
I guess someone doesn't realize, this isn't prison, you don't come in swinging on your first day.

Special Ed

01-08-2013, 21:18

Three pages of posts and I still haven't figured out the link between chocolatiers and pedophiles. What am I missing [Dunno]

[LOL]

Rucker61

01-08-2013, 22:00

Three pages of posts and I still haven't figured out the link between chocolatiers and pedophiles. What am I missing [Dunno]

[LOL]

http://pitweston.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/freecandy.jpg

UncleDave

01-08-2013, 22:06

It should be a cargo van. ^^^

Special Ed

01-08-2013, 22:28

http://pitweston.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/freecandy.jpg

Ohhhhhhhhhh...NOW I get it. I guess you could pack a lot of fudge in that van (especially if you installed shelves).

ben4372

01-08-2013, 23:14

I'm trying to loose my holiday weight. I cut out sweets. All the fudge talk is making me hungry.

Melvin

01-09-2013, 00:42

Your "anti-normal, heterophobic bigot" remark was sad and ignorant to put it nicely.

but I'm not a rampant anti-gay, homophobic, bigot like you.

Tell me who died and appointed you Czar of slurs? You want to dish but can't take it when it is served back. You are a classic post 70s product that has been programmed with what the PC position is on every social issue out there. Taught what to think, not how to think. You can't hoodwink a society that thinks for itself. The puppeteers figured that out.

If you want to discuss the subject of the ilk you stand with promoting the agenda of normalizing yet another crime against nature, let's talk. If all you want to do is sit and throw your pathetic bombs, I am done with you. There are far more interesting and accomplished people on this forum from whom I can learn.

In case you are confused as to where I stand, let me help.

Animal liberationists = pro abortionists = gun grabbers = tree huggers = anti capitalists = anti tobacco = pro weed = anthropomorphists = feminists = anti Christians = vegans = race pimps = glbtpb = greenies = LIBS

This is the same motley crew that will stand in solidarity with the pedophiles. But then if you had read any history you would know that.

The only way to deal with the mental disease of liberalism is to run over it and then back up to be sure. (I wonder how long it would take for them to introduce a bill to ban pickups?)

[ontopic]

Teufelhund

01-09-2013, 01:24

Just to pick on the most ludicrous parallel you drew (they're all ridiculous), someone who chooses not to eat meat also stands with the pedophiles? That may be the most back-woods, ignorant logical-leap I've heard in a very long time. Grow up.

Drilldov2.0

01-09-2013, 02:47

Okay gentlemen, stop swinging your dicks around around, please. None of you are close enough to hit each other with them anyway.

Let's discuss the article. It attempts to redefine the nature of the term "pedophile". The law already clearly defines it, yet somehow the article wishes to redefine the term. I have a huge problem with this. A child who is not trusted to drive, nor legal to drink certainly does not have the mental aptitude nor judgement to understand or decide whether or not a sexual relationship between an adult and child is either okay. Pedophilia is not a "sexual orientation" It disgusts me that it is even mentioned. How many of you parents would tolerate the redefinition of pedophilia as "sexual orientation" if it involved your child?

GilpinGuy

01-09-2013, 03:40

OK, so some eggheads think that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation". Fine. Then I guess necrophilia is as well? What a[pileoshit].

Rucker61

01-09-2013, 08:14

OK, so some eggheads think that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation". Fine. Then I guess necrophilia is as well? What a[pileoshit].

My takeaway from the article was that according to myriad studies, pedophilia is either a sexual orientation or a learned behaviour, but it is only acceptable as an orientation if it is controlled, ie, never acted upon. Evidently the ability to admit to the desire can help the person and society work to prevent any crimes from occuring. As a father, I think the ability to identify potential child molesters prior to the fact, rather than after, could be a good thing.

wreave

01-09-2013, 08:24

I think people suggesting pedophilia as sexual orientation are simply suggesting it is innate to a person and not something which can be "fixed". This does not, in and of itself, condone it, or suggest that a child has the mental capacity to consent to a relationship with an adult. It just recognizes that a pedophile may be "born that way".

I don't have a problem with that. We already know that people who commit sex crimes against children are likely to do it again. This is why we have sex offender registries (though you could argue they've gone too far).

A crime against a child is still a crime against a child. However, understanding that a person is "born that way" could lead to better treatment options and positive outcomes for society.

The comparison to homosexual relationships is stupid. What two consenting adults choose to do is completely up to them. I don't care and you shouldn't either.

Ronin13

01-09-2013, 17:06

Tell me who died and appointed you Czar of slurs? You want to dish but can't take it when it is served back. You are a classic post 70s product that has been programmed with what the PC position is on every social issue out there. Taught what to think, not how to think. You can't hoodwink a society that thinks for itself. The puppeteers figured that out.

If you want to discuss the subject of the ilk you stand with promoting the agenda of normalizing yet another crime against nature, let's talk. If all you want to do is sit and throw your pathetic bombs, I am done with you. There are far more interesting and accomplished people on this forum from whom I can learn.

In case you are confused as to where I stand, let me help.

Animal liberationists = pro abortionists = gun grabbers = tree huggers = anti capitalists = anti tobacco = pro weed = anthropomorphists = feminists = anti Christians = vegans = race pimps = glbtpb = greenies = LIBS

This is the same motley crew that will stand in solidarity with the pedophiles. But then if you had read any history you would know that.

The only way to deal with the mental disease of liberalism is to run over it and then back up to be sure. (I wonder how long it would take for them to introduce a bill to ban pickups?)
Clearly you lack the understanding of the definition of bigot. I was just stating common labels given to people like you- that is, people stuck in the 1940's culture where all is cut and dry, must abide by biblical law. Pedophilia is not, and never will be equal to homosexuality... you may find it to be gross, but the rest of the country realizes that it's gone on (sorry to disrupt your Roman Catholic Utopian dreams) for thousands of years and is perfectly normal. I'm not for PC, but I do respect others for having differing views, and don't "damn them to hell!" like you so quickly do. I'm not promoting some agenda to normalize anything... from the birth of this nation to 1865 it was viewed that black people were property, and that was "normal" for that time. Then in 1920 women were granted the right to vote. Before 1919 it was "normal" to not allow women to vote. I don't see those as wrong, it was the times, and now we're "awakening" if you will, to a time where a once taboo subject (homosexuality, not pedophilia) is actually "normal" and we were wrong and foolish to ever think it was wrong. That's where I draw the parallel, I don't consider one person's choice, albeit against religious norms, to be evil. I agree that liberalism is bad, but would never kill someone because of their political beliefs. If you truly think that way, and that is honestly what you believe, well, I would recommend you seek out help before you act on those impulses. You have an antiquated view on the opposite end of the spectrum than yourself, and that is why I used the term bigot, because that is exactly what it is. Welcome to 2013, we have this wonderful thing called freedom, where people can be vegans and environmentalists and support various causes... Sorry your hibernation took you too far into the future.

Melvin

01-09-2013, 18:16

Clearly you lack the understanding of the definition of bigot. I was just stating common labels given to people like you- that is, people stuck in the 1940's culture where all is cut and dry, must abide by biblical law. Pedophilia is not, and never will be equal to homosexuality... you may find it to be gross, but the rest of the country realizes that it's gone on (sorry to disrupt your Roman Catholic Utopian dreams) for thousands of years and is perfectly normal. I'm not for PC, but I do respect others for having differing views, and don't "damn them to hell!" like you so quickly do. I'm not promoting some agenda to normalize anything... from the birth of this nation to 1865 it was viewed that black people were property, and that was "normal" for that time. Then in 1920 women were granted the right to vote. Before 1919 it was "normal" to not allow women to vote. I don't see those as wrong, it was the times, and now we're "awakening" if you will, to a time where a once taboo subject (homosexuality, not pedophilia) is actually "normal" and we were wrong and foolish to ever think it was wrong. That's where I draw the parallel, I don't consider one person's choice, albeit against religious norms, to be evil. I agree that liberalism is bad, but would never kill someone because of their political beliefs. If you truly think that way, and that is honestly what you believe, well, I would recommend you seek out help before you act on those impulses. You have an antiquated view on the opposite end of the spectrum than yourself, and that is why I used the term bigot, because that is exactly what it is. Welcome to 2013, we have this wonderful thing called freedom, where people can be vegans and environmentalists and support various causes... Sorry your hibernation took you too far into the future.

Yup. I was right. You are a classic example of the generation produced by the liberal progressive machine. Original thought is not acceptable. That is how you mold a society and thus shackle it.

"Give me a child when he's 7 and he's mine forever,"

“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”

“Youth is easily deceived, because it is quick to hope.”

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”

“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”

- Uncle Adolf

blacklabel

01-09-2013, 18:21

Yup. I was right. You are a classic example of the generation produced by the liberal progressive machine. Original thought is not acceptable. That is how you mold a society and thus shackle it.

"Give me a child when he's 7 and he's mine forever,"

“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”

“Youth is easily deceived, because it is quick to hope.”

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”

“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”

- Uncle Adolf

Wow.

ezgoinrob

01-09-2013, 18:48

Your argument kinda lost traction when you said "fudge packers."

Bwahahahaha

Troublco

01-09-2013, 19:40

ANADRILL

01-09-2013, 20:13

Your argument kinda lost traction when you said "fudge packers." Whether you agree with it or not, it's here, it's not going anywhere, and the best we can do is try and respect others' without infringing upon their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

I stand behind calling them fudge packers, fufus, sugar shoes, pink boys, and rainbow brites.. Screw being PC, it's what got us in the mess we are in now...

Rucker61

01-09-2013, 20:28

I stand behind, calling them fudge packers, fufus, sugar shoes, pink boys, and rainbow brites.. Screw being PC, it's what got us in the mess we are in now...

What are you doing standing behind them? Wide stance?

Melvin

01-09-2013, 22:06

Well...ignoring what most of this thread has degenerated into - I find some of what they say in that article disturbing. As has been mentioned, children are not equipped to make decisions regarding sexual relationships, period. I believe that a convicted pedophile (and I am talking about someone who molests/rapes/whatever word you want to use; a prepubescent child, not a 17 year old) has no place in society. There's a substantial difference between someone who thinks about something (although who would want to think about this, I don't know) and someone who acts upon these thoughts. And I agree, you can't compare homosexuality with pedophilia.

I think it's telling that even prison inmates generally won't abide a pedophile or child murderer, or so I'm given to understand.

Hey someone read the article. I think all normal people can agree that any adult who would try and justify this crime against nature is a sick fuck. The problem is the "ostrich with its head in the sand" attitude to recognizing and accepting "progressive creep". I don't care what social upheaval you want to name from the abolitionists to the feminazis to the rainbow nation to the drug addicts, I guarantee you that if you went back in time to just 20 years prior to all these milestones becoming normalized, I would defy you to find 1% of the citizens of the day who would have told you "Oh sure that will happen in my lifetime"

As was once said of the Mafia, "They aren't that good. They're just persistent".

As the article pointed out, the progressive view isn't only across the pond. It is right on our northern border. Filthy warped canucks who have laws on the books that result in stand up comedians being locked up for telling a joke about the testicular delusional circus are promoting the idea that abuse of children should be considered normal.

Regards your opinion of comparing one deviance to another. The word deviant has one definition: To deviate from accepted norm.
I really don't care where a deviant want wants to stick their junk. I am sick to death of morons preaching at me that it is "normal."
This is the same lot that want us to refer to some fool who wants to masquerade as a ugly woman as she/her.
But I guarantee this lot would be the first to call those nice young men in their clean white coats if some guy decided he wanted to
dress up like a baby and walk/crawl around in public dressed in a diaper with a pacifier in his mouth.

Rucker61

01-09-2013, 22:08

Hey someone read the article. I think all normal people can agree that any adult who would try and justify this crime against nature is a sick fuck. The problem is the "ostrich with its head in the sand" attitude to recognizing and accepting "progressive creep". I don't care what social upheaval you want to name from the abolitionists to the feminazis to the rainbow nation to the drug addicts, I guarantee you that if you went back in time to just 20 years prior to all these milestones becoming normalized, I would defy you to find 1% of the citizens of the day who would have told you "Oh sure that will happen in my lifetime"

As was once said of the Mafia, "They aren't that good. They're just persistent".

As the article pointed out, the progressive view isn't only across the pond. It is right on our northern border. Filthy warped canucks who have laws on the books that result in stand up comedians being locked up for telling a joke about the testicular delusional circus are promoting the idea that abuse of children should be considered normal.

Regards your opinion of comparing one deviance to another. The word deviant has one definition: To deviate from accepted norm.
I really don't care where a deviant want wants to stick their junk. I am sick to death of morons preaching at me that it is "normal."
This is the same lot that want us to refer to some fool who wants to masquerade as a ugly woman as she/her.
But I guarantee this lot would be the first to call those nice young men in their clean white coats if some guy decided he wanted to
dress up like a baby and walk/crawl around in public dressed in a diaper with a pacifier in his mouth.

The sexual fetish and deviation discussion forum is that way =====>.

I think you ended up here by mistake. We discuss firearms here.

Brock Landers

01-09-2013, 22:37

Animal liberationists = pro abortionists = gun grabbers = tree huggers = anti capitalists = anti tobacco = pro weed = anthropomorphists = feminists = anti Christians = vegans = race pimps = glbtpb = greenies = LIBS

You have no idea what you're talking about. I am politically liberal (actually I consider myself a moderate but most on this forum would categorize me as a liberal) and I fit into exactly two of the categories you listed. 2/14, well done.

This is the same motley crew that will stand in solidarity with the pedophiles. But then if you had read any history you would know that.

Interesting. Off the top of my head I can name one institution that consistently defends and "stands in solidarity" with pedophiles. I'll give you a hint, it's not a liberal organization.

Melvin

01-09-2013, 23:21

Y

Interesting. Off the top of my head I can name one institution that consistently defends and "stands in solidarity" with pedophiles. I'll give you a hint, it's not a liberal organization.

Penn State[Dunno]

ANADRILL

01-09-2013, 23:44

What are you doing standing behind them? Wide stance?
The ops right to call them fudge packers.

Melvin

01-09-2013, 23:47

You have no idea what you're talking about. I am politically liberal (actually I consider myself a moderate but most on this forum would categorize me as a liberal) and I fit into exactly two of the categories you listed. 2/14, well done.

"Absurdity is best illustrated with absurdity" - Rush Limbaugh

I merely was following the example from the lib tent. "There’s no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They’re all animals." - Ingrid Newkirk - President of PETA (yet another pommy skank polluting these shores)

William

01-10-2013, 00:03

What are you doing standing behind them? Wide stance?
lmao...

Rucker61

01-10-2013, 00:12

Penn State[Dunno]

Another hint. The boss wears a tall hat.

KestrelBike

01-10-2013, 02:29

Another hint. The boss wears a tall hat.

Abraham Lincoln?

Fmedges

01-10-2013, 02:54

The cat in the hat?

Melvin

01-10-2013, 09:59

Another hint. The boss wears a tall hat.

http://instinctmagazine.com/images/stories/thumbs/L2hvbWUvaW5zdGluY3RtYWdhemluZS9wdWJsaWNfaHRtbC9pbW FnZXMvc3Rvcmllcy9ibG9ncy9qa2F0ei9kb250LWFzay5qcGc= .jpg

Rucker61

01-10-2013, 10:18

http://instinctmagazine.com/images/stories/thumbs/L2hvbWUvaW5zdGluY3RtYWdhemluZS9wdWJsaWNfaHRtbC9pbW FnZXMvc3Rvcmllcy9ibG9ncy9qa2F0ei9kb250LWFzay5qcGc= .jpg

That's not the Cat in the Hat.

blacklabel

01-10-2013, 10:28

"Absurdity is best illustrated with absurdity" - Rush Limbaugh

I merely was following the example from the lib tent. "There’s no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They’re all animals." - Ingrid Newkirk - President of PETA (yet another pommy skank polluting these shores)

Can you post without quoting someone?

Ronin13

01-10-2013, 11:22

Well...ignoring what most of this thread has degenerated into - I find some of what they say in that article disturbing. As has been mentioned, children are not equipped to make decisions regarding sexual relationships, period. I believe that a convicted pedophile (and I am talking about someone who molests/rapes/whatever word you want to use; a prepubescent child, not a 17 year old) has no place in society. There's a substantial difference between someone who thinks about something (although who would want to think about this, I don't know) and someone who acts upon these thoughts. And I agree, you can't compare homosexuality with pedophilia.

I think it's telling that even prison inmates generally won't abide a pedophile or child murderer, or so I'm given to understand.
THIS! I found out just a week before shipping off to Basic that a guy I went to HS with was busted for Statutory rape because he had relations with a 15 year old while he was 22 (I think her parents got involved)... It brought up the subject of is that considered pedophilia or not? At what age is one responsible for their sexual actions without being considered a child? I know of kids who are active at the age of 13. Now myself, I'm not attracted to any women under 21- kind hard to take a girl out and you're the only one who can drink legally... I agree that you have to be one very sick puppy to even think about young children in that way. I also agree that Homosexuality and pedophilia aren't even in the same category, one is a sickness, the other is a lifestyle.

Now, to everyone standing behind the OP on the "fudge packer" comment... do any of you know any gay folks? I do, and they're pretty good people- shit, one of them is a very pro-2A libertarian! I don't agree with his lifestyle, but it's not my place (since I believe in liberty) to tell him he's wrong in being attracted to other men. I am by no means a Progressive (ask DD and NMB), I align more as a Conservative Constitutionalist, but I am able to remove religious stigma and bias from politics, and though raised Christian (again, my dad's brother was gay and my grandparents are very conservative, very religious people but accepted their gay son) I feel I don't align with "mainstream" religion. Much like the teachings of Madison, Jefferson, and Adams- "Religion is the business of the individual, and their methods and means of worship may vary between people following the same faith."