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james_bond_007
01-09-2013, 01:03
Ammunition Background Check Act of 2013Source: http://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/ammunition-background-check-act-of-2013

This month, Senator Blumenthal will introduce legislation to require instant background checks on sales of ammunition.

Under current law, it is illegal to sell both firearms and ammunition to certain groups, including,


felons
fugitives
drug addicts
people deemed “mentally defective” by a court, or committed to a mental institution
persons under a protective order for, or convicted of, domestic abuse

But under current law, firearms and ammunition are not treated the same way. If a felon walks into a store licensed to sell firearms and tries to buy a gun, the store will run an instant background check of an FBI database (National Instant Background Check System, or NICS), and the purchase will be denied. By contrast, if a felon walks into the same store to buy ammunition, he can load up an entire shopping cart with ammunition, pay up, and walk out, no questions asked. The store is not required to run an instant background check for ammo purchases. In fact, the store couldn't run a background check even if it wanted to – because the FBI database is only available for firearms purchases, not for ammo.

Background checks have worked in many cases to keep firearms from falling into the wrong hands.


According to the FBI, over the last decade, more than 100 million background checks have been run on firearms purchases.
The vast majority of checks took about 30 seconds. And approximately 700,000 people under the law were prohibited from purchasing guns – including felons, domestic abusers, and the mentally ill.

The Ammunition Background Check Act of 2013 would require that every buyer of ammunition would undergo an instant background check under the FBI’s National Instant Background Check System (NICS).


Federally licensed gun dealers could simply use their existing system to run checks on purchasers of ammunition (either electronically or by telephone).
Sellers of ammunition who are not federal licensees can continue to sell simply by conducting a background check through an existing licensee or by getting a federal license.

In addition to requiring background checks, the legislation would reestablish recordkeeping and reporting requirements on ammunition sales. Prior to the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act, sellers of ammunition had to track their inventory and keep records of their customers.


The Ammunition Background Checks Act restores these requirements so that law enforcement can ensure that sellers are complying with the law and can use seller records to solve gun crimes.
The Act also requires sellers of ammunition to report to law enforcement when a purchaser buys more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition or when a large quantity of ammunition is stolen.

Finally, the bill bans Teflon-coated bullets and incendiary ammunition. The current federal ban on armor-piercing ammunition exempts certain kinds of Teflon-coated bullets, as well as incendiary ammunition designed to ignite or explode on contact. Both of these kinds of ammunition can defeat body armor, and pose a grave danger to law enforcement. They should be banned.

Byte Stryke
01-09-2013, 05:03
yeah, because this flawed logic is working so well with firearms

speedysst
01-09-2013, 05:09
Im sorry to ask but has there EVER been a shooting where an officer was hit with an incendiary round?

DavieD55
01-09-2013, 06:37
Makes me wonder how reloading supplies would equate into that.

BPTactical
01-09-2013, 07:05
And the ignorance continues

cofi
01-09-2013, 08:24
great getting all those Teflon bullets off the street finally......oh wait I have never even seen a Teflon bullet

and background checks for ammo......great how many lists am I going to be on shooting 1000 rounds a month

Kraven251
01-09-2013, 08:39
yes, teflon and incendiary rounds are the only thing that will defeat body armor ...hope no one informs them about rifle cartridges or slugs

"Yes, I would like 999 rounds of 5.56 please, see you in 5 minutes"

Bailey Guns
01-09-2013, 08:44
This is the face of the enemy. Thanks to any/all of you liberal peckerwoods that helped to put ignorant people like this in office. I hope you're fuckin' happy about how that "liberal gun owner" thing is working out for ya.

Special Ed
01-09-2013, 08:53
It's amazing how silly these people are. Perhaps next they'll ban holsters because if the nutjobs were forced to carry their guns in their hands they wouldn't be able to carry as many and, therefore, they could kill fewer people.

Madusa
01-09-2013, 08:53
Once they get this system rolling it will be easy to add all kinds of new restrictions on types and quantities.

vossman
01-09-2013, 09:00
Shenanigans!

I don't see how this will help anything, ever.

Monky
01-09-2013, 09:03
You mean I can get Teflon coated non stick bullets? Won't they keep sliding out of my 'clip'?

Bailey Guns
01-09-2013, 09:04
I don't see how this will help anything, ever.

Right. Like that ever persuaded a liberal.

Monky
01-09-2013, 09:05
Shenanigans!

I don't see how this will help anything, ever.

You just don't have your head far enough up your ass

BlasterBob
01-09-2013, 10:21
You mean I can get Teflon coated non stick bullets? Won't they keep sliding out of my 'clip'?

Yeah and the bullets had better be crimped REAL TIGHT or they'll just fall right out of the cartridge cases.[LOL]

ray1970
01-09-2013, 10:28
That would be awesome right now.

"I'd like one box of 9mm please"

"OK. Fill out this form an we'll get you in the system. There's about 11,000 people ahead of you right now. You can come back in about nine days and pick up your ammo "


Sent without the Tapatalk signature to appease Ah Pook.

Zundfolge
01-09-2013, 10:29
That would be awesome right now.

"I'd like one box of 9mm please"

"OK. Fill out this form an we'll get you in the system. There's about 11,000 people ahead of you right now. You can come back in about nine days and pick up your ammo "

And THAT is the purpose of such a law ... that and the $10 surcharge per box of ammo that would have to be added to cover the expense.

Kraven251
01-09-2013, 10:33
And THAT is the purpose of such a law ... that and the $10 surcharge per box of ammo that would have to be added to cover the expense.

which will encourage buying in bulk, sort of defeating their system ...then again my dabbling in reloading may become necessity

hatidua
01-09-2013, 10:34
Ten years from now, the ban will be on pocket knives. Ten years after that, the government will ban forks. The eventual goal seems to be for everyone to be in a vegetative state getting their nourishment through a straw.

n8tive97
01-09-2013, 10:34
And the ignorance continues

My thoughts exactly!

DavieD55
01-09-2013, 10:41
which will encourage buying in bulk, sort of defeating their system ...then again my dabbling in reloading may become necessity


Im sure they will find some way to include reloading supplies into that somehow. Or they will try to ban reloading.

hatidua
01-09-2013, 10:43
...then again my dabbling in reloading may become necessity

I can't help but wonder if reloading is really off their radar. I hope it remains a viable option for those of you that roll your own but the draconian wish list of things they'd like to do away with would surprise me if that one slipped through.

DavieD55
01-09-2013, 10:46
If it passed it would probably end up with some sort of permit like a CHP only for the purchase ammo.

Gman
01-09-2013, 10:48
Ten years from now, the ban will be on pocket knives. Ten years after that, the government will ban forks. The eventual goal seems to be for everyone to be in a vegetative state getting their nourishment through a straw.
Soylent green is people!!!

If you can't control the guns, go for the ammunition. I'm sure this is what the Founders had in mind. Have the government control the distribution to whom, what type, and how much ammunition the subjects of this once great nation can obtain. Microstamping, tagging, and ballistic fingerprinting didn't work out for them. This is just the next step in their agenda to destroy this country and its founding principles.

Register the weapons now and make them non-transferrable. The people will be disarmed in a couple of generations.

Kraven251
01-09-2013, 10:50
Register the weapons now and make them non-transferrable. The people will be disarmed in a couple of generations.

Or we'll end up like Australia started, a country of felons.

jreifsch80
01-09-2013, 10:51
i guess the cops will grow sick and tired of hearing about me buying either 1080 or 2160 rounds of 5.45. if they do this crap hopefully a c&r ffl is good enough to order ammo to the house hopefully none of this becomes law