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Kraven251
01-10-2013, 11:52
Was linked to this off of FB, and I felt that it was important that it made it here too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIGzj6eIwWU

HBARleatherneck
01-10-2013, 12:08
im at 8 minutes now. does it get any better? its just rambling.

Kraven251
01-10-2013, 12:09
It gets better, and it gives perspective

GlockDog47
01-10-2013, 12:39
Good video, and he's right 100%

Cthulhu
01-10-2013, 12:42
Thanks for posting this. Very well thought out and articulated. I didn't find it rambling at all so much as impromptu and heartfelt. He's coming from a perspective that those of us who haven't seen how bad it can get will truly never understand.

buckeye4rnr
01-10-2013, 12:49
Watched it this morning, it's a great video.

lowbeyond
01-10-2013, 13:17
fantasitic

asmo
01-10-2013, 13:26
There is a reason why I thourougly enjoy training with this guy. He is dead on accurate.

Its all about perspective. People need to take a long hard look at what they have -- and how fast it can be gone.

But that requires serious introspection and educated thought and a willingness to admit your own weaknesses... no one does that anymore.

Ronin13
01-10-2013, 20:45
Finally got the time to sit and watch- great video! That's why I love Travis, he's just a good dude! And that scenario with the gun, cell and cryptic note is perfect! I'm going to present that scenario to the people I know who are anti-gun/protectionist (love that term). Plus, I like how he refuses to call it PTSD (saw an interview with him and he says he hates the D part of PTSD so he doesn't call it PTSD) and instead uses the term "Soldier's Heart." Great share Kraven! [Beer]

blacklabel
01-10-2013, 22:14
I appreciated Haley for his skills but this video made me respect him as a man. Seems like an unbelievable man.

TS12000
01-10-2013, 22:55
A very lethal Mr. Mackey

In all seriousness though that was a good video. I often find myself slipping and have to retrack and remember how easy things really are here. With freedom comes complacency I guess.

stevelkinevil
01-10-2013, 23:41
Fan fuckin tastic, I still dont want to run my Scar "like a boss" but that was well worth my time and then some.

Ronin13
01-10-2013, 23:53
A very lethal Mr. Mackey

In all seriousness though that was a good video. I often find myself slipping and have to retrack and remember how easy things really are here. With freedom comes complacency I guess.
Yeah, that did give me some great perspective... I've gotten frustrated and angry many times recently, and this just taught me better that I do need to keep myself in check! He's just one helluva good dude with lots of wisdom to share!

Troublco
01-11-2013, 09:34
Awesome. He hits the nail on the head.

Funny thing to me was hearing him talk about the kids in Africa...not long ago I watched some kids over there playing with a stick and a string. I watched a guy with no legs, who moved around on a little cart made of a piece of plywood with four little casters under it, who lived by begging on street corners but who was always smiling, always appeared happy, and always had a kind word and a blessing for those who would pass, even if they didn't give him a thing. How many people in this country could be positive under the same circumstances? Where this guy was, there is no social security, no welfare, you don't get squat unless you're lucky enough to have a job to earn it or someone gives it to you. A good monthly income was $120 US! Most got along on less than that, and they live 6-10-14 people to a little hut with no power, water, or anything else. The police make extra money by shaking down motorists who look like they may have a few bucks that the officers can slap a fine on them for. You can own guns there...if you can afford them. The cheapest, crappiest little rifle that sells for $120 here costs triple that, or more, there. So to them, it costs more than the currently overpriced SCARs and ARs here now would to us, comparatively. And that's assuming the police don't confiscate it from them once they buy it.

I'm sure there are other vets on here who've seen stuff like this too. I just wish there was a way for the rest of our country to get a good, up close and personal look at how a lot of the rest of the world lives so that they could appreciate what they have, as opposed to living the entitlement and whining about little BS that, in the end, doesn't mean a thing.

Cthulhu
01-11-2013, 09:44
This morning I ate an banana right side up (African style) and thought about easy/good I've got it.

Kraven251
01-11-2013, 09:59
I'm sure there are other vets on here who've seen stuff like this too. I just wish there was a way for the rest of our country to get a good, up close and personal look at how a lot of the rest of the world lives so that they could appreciate what they have, as opposed to living the entitlement and whining about little BS that, in the end, doesn't mean a thing.

I've stated before on the forums that I have never served, something in my life now I have come to regret, but I grew up in a Marine Corps household. I hope to never see the things my old man had seen, or experience some of the hells he experienced but, he taught me a most valuable lesson about what I had, and how lucky I had it, all because I was an American. He rarely spoke of his time in combat or what he had seen or done, but when he did I listened, and he painted a very real picture of a world that the vast majority of the civilian population of this country couldn't begin to comprehend.

Jer
01-11-2013, 10:10
Haley/Costa 2016!

Ronin13
01-11-2013, 10:20
I've stated before on the forums that I have never served, something in my life now I have come to regret, but I grew up in a Marine Corps household. I hope to never see the things my old man had seen, or experience some of the hells he experienced but, he taught me a most valuable lesson about what I had, and how lucky I had it, all because I was an American. He rarely spoke of his time in combat or what he had seen or done, but when he did I listened, and he painted a very real picture of a world that the vast majority of the civilian population of this country couldn't begin to comprehend.
That's what the average Joe doesn't get... I always ask people who never served, have rarely conversed with anyone who has, and never had a family member that served, and always they can't grasp the concept "Do you know what tyranny looks like in the modern world?" It always leads to the disbelief that our government will never go that way. How do they know? In the 1970's that's what the Afghan people thought. Come 1996 and the Taliban is telling you that your wife can't work, your daughter can't go to school, and if you don't follow their twisted form of Islam you're dead! Having been there to see the aftermath, and talking to the people who lived and/or grew up in that kind of society you come to realize that absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. Like Haley said, except I'll go one further: [After the destruction of the 2nd Amendment] what if the government said you will be arrested if you speak out against them and/or their policies? It happened in Iraq, it happened in Afghanistan, it still happens in Iran and North Korea. "But Ronin, that would never happen here in America!" Are you 100% sure. If we're all disarmed, what's to stop the powers that be from passing a law like that? What are you really going to do?

Troublco
01-11-2013, 10:27
I've stated before on the forums that I have never served, something in my life now I have come to regret, but I grew up in a Marine Corps household. I hope to never see the things my old man had seen, or experience some of the hells he experienced but, he taught me a most valuable lesson about what I had, and how lucky I had it, all because I was an American. He rarely spoke of his time in combat or what he had seen or done, but when he did I listened, and he painted a very real picture of a world that the vast majority of the civilian population of this country couldn't begin to comprehend.

I would not wish for anyone to have to deal with combat and the results; but if everyone in this country could see how people in some other countries (Not Germany and places like that, but certain African countries and places like India, Pakistan, and so on) live I think it would make a considerable difference. And I'm not talking a few pictures; I'm talking about being there, seeing it up close and personal. I'm sure there would be plenty who wouldn't be fazed, but I think a lot of people would get it.

Jer
01-11-2013, 11:04
I would not wish for anyone to have to deal with combat and the results; but if everyone in this country could see how people in some other countries (Not Germany and places like that, but certain African countries and places like India, Pakistan, and so on) live I think it would make a considerable difference. And I'm not talking a few pictures; I'm talking about being there, seeing it up close and personal. I'm sure there would be plenty who wouldn't be fazed, but I think a lot of people would get it.

Smelling it. Tyranny, oppression and hopelessness has a distinguishable odor that remains with you.

Ronin13
01-11-2013, 11:52
Smelling it. Tyranny, oppression and hopelessness has a distinguishable odor that remains with you.
To me it smelled a lot like a mix between feet, shit and garbage... oh and the occasional burning garbage covered feet...

Tinelement
01-11-2013, 22:22
Awesome video!!

stenz
01-12-2013, 01:18
I appreciated Haley for his skills but this video made me respect him as a man. Seems like an unbelievable man.


Couldnt have said it better.

AR_ART
01-12-2013, 06:05
Great video! Travis does a great job of setting the parameters around what he wants to discuss. I like how he makes his points without sounding like one of those yelling and ranting folks who while they have good points comes across as crazy. Worth the watch by ANYONE!

jerrymrc
01-12-2013, 06:24
I would not wish for anyone to have to deal with combat and the results; but if everyone in this country could see how people in some other countries (Not Germany and places like that, but certain African countries and places like India, Pakistan, and so on) live I think it would make a considerable difference. And I'm not talking a few pictures; I'm talking about being there, seeing it up close and personal. I'm sure there would be plenty who wouldn't be fazed, but I think a lot of people would get it.

Now with out this thread spinning into the bowl I can tell you I have seen it up close. While I was in Bolivia I got to see an issue between a bunch of farmers and some Soldiers. The Soldiers had Fal's and the farmers had sticks and pitchforks......