Walmart Threads Merge [Archive] - Colorado AR-15 Shooters Club Discussion Forums

T-Jet

01-12-2013, 20:41

Seems that Walmart HQ is rejecting any new orders on ammo from their stores. They are selling out what the stores have and anything that is in stock in the warehouses.
A buddy of mine in MO was standing there at the counter when the saleslady placed an order for more .223 ammo. She was surprised it was rejected. She said she was told that Walmart is waiting to see what comes of any new legislation.

GlockDog47

01-12-2013, 20:54

Walmart playing both sides. Imagine that, walmart SUCKS

TAR31

01-12-2013, 20:57

Walmart playing both sides. Imagine that, walmart SUCKS

Yep, cause friend of some guy on the internet is a 100% reliable source. No offense to T-Jet.

Rooskibar03

01-12-2013, 20:59

As if ammo isn't already hard enough to find.

They won't need gun regulation, we just won't have anything to shoot eventually.

DavieD55

01-12-2013, 21:00

The only thing i buy from Walmart is ammo.

GlockDog47

01-12-2013, 21:06

The only thing i buy from Walmart is ammo.

+1

brokenscout

01-12-2013, 21:08

I heard they don't order it anymore, they just get what the send them.. There is not enough to go around

sellersm

01-12-2013, 21:08

Where's our local WM contact? The web is all abuzz about this 'issue'... Hard to know what's right or wrong, but some of the forums have the contact # to call @ WM to confirm.

ChunkyMonkey

01-12-2013, 21:29

Geez.. the same rumor has been going around emails and the web for few weeks now. The same crap was said in 2008.

01-12-2013, 21:34

Walmart is the one company that I can almost guarantee would NOT stop selling Ammo due to fear of impending legislative action or possible public outcry.

They are 150% capitalist. There are very few forces in this world that could stop Walmart from legally selling as much ammo as they possible can push through their warehouses and stores.

wreave

01-12-2013, 21:41

The stores may not be allowed to order stuff, especially the high-demand stuff, because there's simply too much demand. They ship out what they get. It's been flowing into the two I frequent, just not in sufficient quantities.

rondog

01-12-2013, 21:59

CO303

01-12-2013, 22:15

Ask SA Friday about this one. He can give you the straight scoop.

TAR31

01-12-2013, 22:16

I'd heard in the past that the stores don't reorder their inventory anyway, that it's tracked by computer and reordered automatically. I could have just had smoke blown up my ass by an employee though.

The little I know about modern retail businesses would lead me to believe this. If every Walmart store manager order 1,000,000,000 rounds of .223 only the first store that ordered would get any this year.

Gcompact30

01-12-2013, 22:19

Well I guess I have know reason to shop there any longer........... I will shop else where.

streetglideok

01-12-2013, 22:27

I had my mom ask my dad about their ammo inventories(he's retired and works for a wally world). She said "Talked with dad about deliveries...it seems the only stores with ammo are the ones who over ordered. The warehouses (where the supplies come from) are empty....will let you know when that changes".

Sparky

01-12-2013, 22:35

Is this your buddy

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1419878_Walmart_ammo__update.html

02ducky

01-12-2013, 22:50

Like me need more fear about our 2A, calling BS on the story.

ezgoinrob

01-12-2013, 22:51

Wife is an assistant manager @ walmart... She says this is TOTAL BUNK!. She also says Walmarts can order whatever they want. Now if the warehouse doesnt have it thats a different story. Just another Walmart slam story. All you Walmart haters need to get a life!

Ez

T-Jet

01-12-2013, 23:19

Yep, cause friend of some guy on the internet is a 100% reliable source. No offense to T-Jet.

None taken. Just my buddy in MO told me after he experienced it himself. He's like us so I consider him 100%. Just thought I'd pass it on. No skin off me as I don't care what you think about it.

Lurch

01-14-2013, 11:27

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/walmart-suspends-ammo-orders-pending-gun-control-decision

I hope this is false. But going to run over right now and see if they have anything.

Kraven251

01-14-2013, 11:40

yay, fuck walmart.

ChunkyMonkey

01-14-2013, 11:49

I spoke to a friend who is a local store GM since we had another thread on this. She said basically the policy reflects on their inventory management. Whenever there is a recall pending, federal law pending and so on, walmart will review and in most cases stop ordering inventory that it may not be able to sell. It has nothing to do with being 'anti-gun.' Translate that whatever you think. SAfriday probably has a better insight.

Ashton

01-14-2013, 12:17

Smart business practices IMHO. Don't buy shit you won't be able to sell.

Aloha_Shooter

01-14-2013, 12:34

Why in God's name would any retail business order accept orders for something they were uncertain about being able to get or sell? Don't attribute to malevolence anything that can be adequately ascribed to neglect or uncertainty.

hollohas

01-14-2013, 12:48

What would make them think they couldn't sell ammo?

BuffCyclist

01-14-2013, 13:07

Little disappointed in Walmart on this, though I understand their reasoning. I've been trying to pickup some ammo for a while now, to take my Fiancee shooting, but Walmart is sold out of everything! The one LGS doesn't have anything beyond SD ammo at ridiculously high prices ($45 for 25rds of Speer Gold Dot 9mm)

Yes, I do have some ammo on hand that she could go shoot, but depending on whatever legislation is pushed through, it may be hard to come by ammo for a while now and I already am lower than normal.

Singlestack

01-14-2013, 13:48

This is disappointing, and seems to me to be an overreaction by Walmart. I'm not hearing anyone suggesting that local ammo sales will be suspended. The proposals I'm hearing are limiting or eliminating online ammo sales.

mtnrider

01-14-2013, 13:49

BuffCyclist

01-14-2013, 13:59

It is smart business sense and I wonder how many others are following suit? Magpul for instance. They have a million 30 round mags on backorder. Do you think they are actually trying to produce them now or waiting to see what happens? If they get banned outright they could be stuck with a lot of inventory.

I don't think thats a fair comparison. As you said, MagPul has millions of mags on backorder, that customers have ALREADY paid for. They will continue cranking out their product UNTIL the mags are banned. At which point they will contact their clients and say they can not fulfill the orders as requested, and those clients will then refund our money (unless they charge at shipping).

Walmart orders ammo to stock it, which isn't sold until someone comes in. If they took backorders for ammo and then stopped ordering it, there'd be major backlash, kind of like with Dick's Sporting Goods and the Troy Carbines.

mtnrider

01-14-2013, 15:32

May not be a apples to apples comparrison but they still have the potential to get stuck with hundreds of thousand of dollars of inventory that they will not be allowed to sell. I guess my thought was if you are a manufacturer do you spend thousands of $ cranking out something that is likely to get mbanned or do you slow roll it until the final verdict comes out? Could make the difference on whether a business survives or not?

I don't think thats a fair comparison. As you said, MagPul has millions of mags on backorder, that customers have ALREADY paid for. They will continue cranking out their product UNTIL the mags are banned. At which point they will contact their clients and say they can not fulfill the orders as requested, and those clients will then refund our money (unless they charge at shipping).

Walmart orders ammo to stock it, which isn't sold until someone comes in. If they took backorders for ammo and then stopped ordering it, there'd be major backlash, kind of like with Dick's Sporting Goods and the Troy Carbines.

jreifsch80

01-14-2013, 15:38

if magpul mags get banned it's not like they couldn't sell them elsewhere, they fill contracts for militaries all over the world. as for walmart what would they do with their inventory that they couldn't sell?

Kraven251

01-14-2013, 15:57

last time I was in the local walmart they weren't having any problem at all moving ammo. The only thing I saw were some shotgun shells, and about 20 boxes of various hunting rounds (.243, 30-06, 25-06 etc.). All of their pistol ammo was gone, all .308 and .223 gone. Pretty sure if they got it in, they could move it.

not to mention some of the most common ammunition in the world is .223/.308

SA Friday

01-14-2013, 16:34

Fuck that. At the rate we are selling the would never get caught holding the check. Complete chicken shit move. The one thing I know about Walmart is they will buckle to customer response. Call and email corporate a lot.

hurley842002

01-14-2013, 17:13

While I wouldn't put ANYTHING past this joke of an administration we have, where would Wal-Mart have gotten the idea that they may not be able to sell ammo in the future? I'd like to think I keep myself well informed on current issues, but did I miss something in regards to potential legislation? I realize an AWB, mag cap, and possibly online ammo sells to private parties may be an issue, but none of that has anything to do with Wal-Mart buying or selling ammo.

mtnrider

01-14-2013, 17:21

Didn't a Wal Mart rep meet with Obama last week? Maybe he got a enough info to make him think they might not be able to sell ammo any more?

While I wouldn't put ANYTHING past this joke of an administration we have, where would Wal-Mart have gotten the idea that they may not be able to sell ammo in the future? I'd like to think I keep myself well informed on current issues, but did I miss something in regards to potential legislation? I realize an AWB, mag cap, and possibly online ammo sells to private parties may be an issue, but none of that has anything to do with Wal-Mart buying or selling ammo.

Kraven251

01-14-2013, 17:32

Didn't a Wal Mart rep meet with Obama last week? Maybe he got a enough info to make him think they might not be able to sell ammo any more?

or that it would become cost prohibitive to sell it

SA Friday

01-14-2013, 17:48

There's a bill floating around about ammo sale background checks. Don't know it's status though.

BTW. Corporate.walmart.com/contact-us. The email contact point for these douche bags. Their asses clench when they get a lot of emails saying a customer won't shop there anymore.

ChunkyMonkey

01-14-2013, 17:52

Thx for the link... Will send my concern in a few and forward this to others

Madusa

01-14-2013, 22:21

It's my understanding Walmart doesn't pay for it's inventory tell it sells. (consignment) They can stock there store with what ever and return it to the manufacture when ever they want. They just sell merchandise for the manufacturer they don't own it. If they don't sell ammo it's because they don't want too.

wreave

01-14-2013, 22:23

I have been a proud Walmart shopper for years. Currently, I buy almost all of my groceries from Walmart and Sam's, as well as the majority of my household products. I spend $5-7k annually at Walmart, plus another $500 in ammunition. Last year, I bought a rifle at Walmart, and was planning to buy another this year.

It is my understanding that Walmart has stopped ordering ammunition to stock its stores. Given how popular this item is, and in general what a high-performing product segment firearms and ammunition have been for Walmart in recent years, it is hard to see this as anything but a capitulation to political pressure.

Across the country, firearm owners have been voting with their wallets against those who are proposing further restriction on firearm ownership. Will Walmart support its customers? Or will it allow politicians to win in back-room deals without even bringing their issues to the legislature?

How well do you know your customers? There are a lot of people in the USA who wouldn't be caught dead shopping at Walmart. Those are the people who are pushing for new restrictions on firearms and ammunition. WIll you support those people at the expense of your customers, or will you stand up for the people who put cash in your registers?

Choose wisely, and choose quickly. There are 80+ million gun owners in America, and a lot of them are Walmart shoppers... or at least they were, before you forgot who paid the bills.

ezgoinrob

01-14-2013, 22:36

ezgoinrob

01-14-2013, 22:49

I have responded to almost all the Wal-Mart hate posts but thought I would start one too...

My wife is an Assistant Store Manager and has worked for Wal-Mart for 20 years.

The Ammo issue...
They HAVE NOT stopped ordering ammo. They are having a hard time filling orders because they have sold so much ammo lately. They are working diligently to restock but can’t keep it on the shelves or in the warehouses. Also their suppliers have raised prices, that is the only reason they have raised theirs. They are not gouging they just are charging more because it is costing more. They have not made any “global” changes to what they have been doing for years!!! Some store managers have taken it upon themselves to make changes to these rules, which they have the power to do, but Wal-Mart as a whole has not changed ANY of their ammo policies.

The gun issue…
Same thing… They have not made any “global” changes to what they have been doing for years!!! Some store managers have taken it upon themselves to make changes to these rules, which they have the power to do, but Wal-Mart as a whole has not changed ANY of their gun policies.

Please try to use common sense people!!! Wal-Mart is a BUSINESS!! In business to MAKE MONEY!!! If they are selling things that make them money they aren’t just going to stop because some people don’t like it.

If you have ANY questions about Wal-Mart PM me before posting BS. I will get you the REAL answers!!

Thank you for your time,
Ez

SideShow Bob

01-14-2013, 22:52

You sou d really firm on that subject..........[LOL]

dwalker460

01-14-2013, 22:54

I found that missing "n" for ya SSB...

ezgoinrob

01-14-2013, 22:55

You sou d really firm on that subject..........[LOL]

Looks like from your sig you would know the definition LOL...

bside303

01-14-2013, 23:07

I heart walmart!

beast556

01-14-2013, 23:13

Thank you for some real info and not some BS rumors.

sroz

01-14-2013, 23:15

No complaints from me EZ. Thanks for posting.

01-14-2013, 23:16

Good to hear. Though I still don't find this post 'ez goin'.

SideShow Bob

01-14-2013, 23:27

Looks like from your sig you would know the definition LOL...

Nasal congestion, from a cold......[ROFL2]

HoneyBadger

01-14-2013, 23:29

Good to hear. Though I still don't find this post 'ez goin'.

J, what happened to your post count?! [LOL]

01-14-2013, 23:29

I like to keep you all on your toes!

sniper7

01-14-2013, 23:43

I'd still shop there even if they didn't sell ammo honestly. It is a major bonus to walk through the sporting goods section and be able to browse the ammo prices, pick up some 12 gauge for hunting, get all the groceries etc etc. The biggest reason I would still shop there....I hate target and a lot of the stuck up looking idiots walking around like they are better than the people at walmart. they make me laugh...but then again, people like this at wal mart make me laugh too:
http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/people-of-walmart-10.jpg

sniper7

01-14-2013, 23:44

I like to keep you all on your toes!

that is some serious undoing!

01-14-2013, 23:46

Yup. And it counts upwards (less negative) now.

Ghosty

01-14-2013, 23:50

I hate target and a lot of the stuck up looking idiots walking around like they are better than the people at walmart. they make me laugh...but then again, people like this at wal mart make me laugh too:
You gotta admit, there is way more hot milfy eye-candy at Target, than at Walmart though. Walmart IS good for this though:

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

SA Friday

01-15-2013, 01:17

I have already called BS on this in a different post.. Again my wife is 20 yr vet Asst Mngr at Walmart. She said they just ordered OVER 5K in ammo TODAY!!! All this is just more WalMart hate crap... Got any Walmart questions or want me to find out.. just PM me I will get the TRUTH not this bullshit!!

EZ
Wow. Interesting. They've shut down all ammo ordering at my store. The system won't even let us do it. Same at the Highlands ranch and castle Rock and Elizabeth store. They sent out a message stating they are filling stocking requests based on sales records. Same thing happened in 2008. I was literally standing there less than 8 hours ago visually seeing it with my own eyes.

I don't hate walmart at all. They pay my bills. But, considering these news reports have been all over the news today from multiple sources and Walmart hasn't said a word sure doesn't look like they're trying to refute bad press.

Give it a week. We will be able to tell then.

Punkface

01-15-2013, 01:21

Sigh. Ammo gets harder and harder to find every day.

jerrymrc

01-15-2013, 06:32

Sigh. Ammo gets harder and harder to find every day.

It does not. Just go downstairs and pull the handle. [Muaha]

wreave

01-15-2013, 07:19

No offense EZ, but there are a lot of people claiming different things - see SA Friday's note above. The piece in Investment Watch certainly seemed legit - they don't have an ax to grind.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-confirmed-wal-mart-is-not-going-to-order-any-more-ammo/

However, Walmart has responded and says that there is no cutback on ammo sales:

http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/walmart-responds-to-suspended-ammo-story/

I'm not sorry I sent in the email that I did. It will serve as a meaningful reminder if they're summoned to any more meetings with Biden's committee.

Madusa

01-15-2013, 09:44

Anyone else worried about shooting up ammo they can't replace?

mtnrider

01-15-2013, 09:51

Yeah, I'm not shooting a damn thing until this settles down (hopfully) Sucks because I really enjoy shooting [Mad]

Anyone else worried about shooting up ammo they can't replace?

Sawin

01-15-2013, 10:05

Anyone else worried about shooting up ammo they can't replace?

Kind of, but I'm still going to zero a new optic and test some new mags. I can justify shooting a few hundred rounds through a new build to function check and verify some new mags. I'm not going to shoot 300-500 rounds of 9mm a month anymore though. At least not right now.

funkymonkey1111

01-15-2013, 10:27

ezgoinrob

01-15-2013, 16:47

Good to hear. Though I still don't find this post 'ez goin'.

J.. just read it with no inflection :D

wreave

01-15-2013, 16:55

Yes, why wouldn't you send WM an email because some dumbshit spreads a rumor about them on the internet--hell, it must be true. I also heard congress was going to tax emails and if you forwarded certain emails you'll get $50 from Microfsoft and AOL!

If you think that an article in Investment Watch (and elsewhere) is the same as some dumbshit spreading a rumor on the Internet, I feel for you. Well, for your kids, I guess.

But hey, you go right on bashing people who are trying to do something reasonable. I'm sure all your posts on this forum will go a long way towards fighting gun control.

ezgoinrob

01-15-2013, 16:57

@ Wreave,
It is offending when BS is posted that threatens my wife’s livelihood. And when it comes to Wal-Mart it happens every day (granted some are true, but some are false like this one) I am just trying to give you an alternate route to confirm things before posting unfounded rumors. Otherwise just post a bunch of links on here from Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh. :D

@ SA,
Hey man I'm not saying some stores aren't doing what you are saying but it is the call of the store manager, not a corporate policy. Just letting you know :)
And this is why I am standing up to say this is because of people like you and my wife that have to work there and hear this malarkey all the time. We are fighting the same fight against [bulls]

Gman

01-15-2013, 17:00

Anyone else worried about shooting up ammo they can't replace?
Yep. Make 'em count.

Ghosty

01-15-2013, 17:12

Otherwise just post a bunch of links on here from Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh. :D
Hey now, some of those actually have some weight, especially the ones on how to grope nice female ass and the proper method of snorting Oxycontin for maximum effect.

It's the links from Alex Jones that scare me. I put on a leadplated tinfoil hat, BEFORE I dare click on those. :D

ezgoinrob

01-15-2013, 17:22

Hey now, some of those actually have some weight, especially the ones on how to grope nice female ass and the proper method of snorting Oxycontin for maximum effect.

It's the links from Alex Jones that scare me. I put on a leadplated tinfoil hat, BEFORE I dare click on those. :D

[ROFL1]

Ghosty

01-15-2013, 17:40

I should clarify, I'm scared Alex Jones might actually come up with proof on how the Pyramids were built, AND BY WHOM, which will totally freak me out and turn me "to the Dark Side".

funkymonkey1111

01-15-2013, 19:59

If you think that an article in Investment Watch (and elsewhere) is the same as some dumbshit spreading a rumor on the Internet, I feel for you. Well, for your kids, I guess.

But hey, you go right on bashing people who are trying to do something reasonable. I'm sure all your posts on this forum will go a long way towards fighting gun control.
No, what I take is the word of the retailer, not idiots like you

Gman

01-15-2013, 20:13

Jeezums, guys. Why get so personal? It's bad enough that we have forces at work that want to enslave us, can't we at least be civil?

BushMasterBoy

01-15-2013, 20:18

The military is going to infilitrate Walmart and make sure it buys American...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/wal-mart-hire-vets-buy-190409052.html

wreave

01-15-2013, 20:28

No, what I take is the word of the retailer, not idiots like you

Nice.

The spouse of a store employee is not "the retailer". In fact, the spouse of a store employee should carry the same weight as a customer who stood there while a store employee called to try to order more ammo.

I was the first person to post "the word of the retailer" when Walmart finally commented, and I still don't think the email I sent was inappropriate. They can file it in the bin of "people who thought we were stopping ammo sales until we made it clear we weren't". On the other hand, at best your ad hominem shows you care more about bitching on here than on a logical discussion, or doing something meaningful.

ezgoinrob

01-15-2013, 22:51

Nice.

The spouse of a store employee is not "the retailer". In fact, the spouse of a store employee should carry the same weight as a customer who stood there while a store employee called to try to order more ammo..

Because your experience was in ONE STORE. And if you read what I said.. Store managers have the option of making their own rules on this kind of thing. I do not doubt what happened to you but again if you read... It is not a corporate global Wal-Mart policy. And yes my word should be considered better than a customer since my wife is a manager with Wal-Mart for 20 years... I think she would know more than you about what is going down at Wal-Mart. If you worked somewhere for 20 years and someone walked in off the street do you think they would know more about the goings on at your work... I think not... C’mon man get real.

BigDee

01-16-2013, 07:58

Because your experience was in ONE STORE. And if you read what I said.. Store managers have the option of making their own rules on this kind of thing. I do not doubt what happened to you but again if you read... It is not a corporate global Wal-Mart policy. And yes my word should be considered better than a customer since my wife is a manager with Wal-Mart for 20 years... I think she would know more than you about what is going down at Wal-Mart. If you worked somewhere for 20 years and someone walked in off the street do you think they would know more about the goings on at your work... I think not... C’mon man get real.

Have you ever worked in retail? I spent several years of my career managing retail stores for a very well known phone company. Every other customer that walked through my doors sure acted like they knew more about the goings on in my store than I did. It was pretty common for people to tell me where I needed to go and what I needed to do with myself. :)

Troublco

01-16-2013, 08:00

I found this, and after digging around didn't see it on the rest of the site so I thought I'd put it here. A little positive news regarding Walmart...

http://www.industryweek.com/companies-amp-executives/wal-mart-buy-more-us-made-goods-hire-100000-military-veterans

relichunter

01-17-2013, 15:45

I talked to an associate in the ammo section of the the North Loveland Walmart about the Ammo hold. He said he heard the rumor then went on the corporate website yesterday and verified that Wal Mart ammo orders are NOT on hold. According to him ammo orders and stock are normal.

relichunter

01-17-2013, 15:55

“That information is inaccurate,” said Ashley Hardie, a spokeswoman located at Walmart’s corporate headquarters in Bentonville. WND then asked whether the retail chain is cutting back on orders of ammunition.
“No,” Hardie said. “We’re continuing to serve our customers as we have in the past.”
She said Walmart’s ammunition sales policy has not changed, even amid talk of gun-control legislation in Washington, D.C.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/walmart-responds-to-suspended-ammo-story/#CrgIBEmTvdbAoceB.99

WND then asked whether the retail chain is cutting back on orders of ammunition.
“No,” Hardie said. “We’re continuing to serve our customers as we have in the past.”
She said Walmart’s ammunition sales policy has not changed, even amid talk of gun-control legislation in Washington, D.C.

SA Friday

01-17-2013, 16:00

ezgoinrob

01-17-2013, 17:07

funkymonkey1111

01-17-2013, 17:21

Walmart put out to mngrs yesterday that they have not suspended ammo orders. Nevertheless I still can't order from my store and my shelves are bare. There are multiple reasons for this result as I see it. All wholesalers are tapped out right now. We will see what the future holds...

Yep Yep.. this is what I have been saying all along.
Ez

What? You mean WREAVE's "investmentwatch" article was full of crap? How can that be?