Newspaper's publication of gun owners tied to burglary

[spqrzilla]

Posted on New York State Senator's page (http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/breaking-news-attempted-gun-burglary-tied-journal-news-gun-maps).

[sroz]

Just think. Had the homeowner been carrying and used it instead of having it locked up, the libs would have reported that a gun-owning wing-nut shot an underprivileged criminal who was entitled to the homeowner's gun.

[theGinsue]

There will be plenty more yet to come.

[wreave]

An EVP I used to work for told me something once - about a mentor of mine that really got screwed. He said, "No one wants to be the guy in the rocket that blows up on the pad. But when it does, they figure out what went wrong, and no one else gets hurt. Small consolation for the guy who's on the rocket that blew up, but still some consolation if something good comes from it."

All those gun owners who got outed by the paper were in that rocket, but the lawmakers are turning around and doing the right thing with some better legislation. I'm thankful Colorado has it right already, but there are still others at risk. This is the kind of federal gun safety law that's needed - this information should only be available to law enforcement.

[rondog]

This is the kind of federal gun safety law that's needed - this information shouldn't even be available to law enforcement.

Fixed that for you.

[sniper7]

Fixed that for you.

nobody needs to know nothin.

[BPTactical]

I get the feeling that this stunt is going to be very costly for the paper.
Rightfully so.

[hurley842002]

nobody needs to know nothin.

^^^

[DavieD55]

I can't believe the stupidity involved with the state of NY and that newspaper for putting all those people in harms way.

[T-Jet]

I hope this bankrupts the paper. Only bad things will come from this for the paper. And rightfully so...

[sroz]

I hope this bankrupts the paper. Only bad things will come from this for the paper. And rightfully so...

I agree. Let's just hope bad things don't come to the law-abiding citizens.

[Ghosty]

I agree with this guy, wow NY actually has a legislator with common sense? No way!


“The same elitist eggheads who use their editorial page to coddle terrorists and criminals are now treating law abiding citizens like level three sexual predators. These bills are critical to keep folks safe and fundamentally protect their inherent right to privacy. I hope all of these bills will be brought to the floor for an up or down vote, and allowed to fail or pass on their own merits and not as part of a large, overarching gun-control package. This is not about the Second Amendment; these bills are simply about commonsense and personal privacy.

Of course assholes like Gawker.com & Jalopnik.com claim it's all "fully 100% legal through the freedom of information act, etc." Yeah, that's all fine, BUT IF a criminal needs help, do you find that you really NEED TO HELP THEM ALONG? It's pathetic, it's like these guys are doing this just so they say they can, regardless if it's hurting someone.

Guess what, even if it's legal through the freedom of information act, THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO!!! Pisses me off to no end. Have some common decency fuckfaces.

[wreave]

I'm thankful Colorado has it right already, but there are still others at risk. This is the kind of federal gun safety law that's needed - this information should only be available to law enforcement.


I'm thankful Colorado has it right already, but there are still others at risk. This is the kind of federal gun safety law that's needed - this information should not even be available to law enforcement.


Fixed that for you.


nobody needs to know nothin.

In Colorado, I was referring to concealed carry permits. That information is available to LE and will continue to be. General firearm purchase data, no. In NY, you have to have a permit to just own a handgun. You know that so long as they require permits, that info will be available to LE. Basically, anything you have to get a permit for is going to be available for LE.

[rondog]

Can you spell "class action lawsuit"?

[Geology Rocks]

Can we arrest all those involved with printing the gun owners information and charge them with aiding and Abetting?:D

[Ridge]

Ya know, the release does not cite any actual break in, let alone that it was tied to the newspaper. It's just him saying it happened. And all politicians lie...

[Cthulhu]

In Colorado, I was referring to concealed carry permits. That information is available to LE and will continue to be. General firearm purchase data, no. In NY, you have to have a permit to just own a handgun. You know that so long as they require permits, that info will be available to LE. Basically, anything you have to get a permit for is going to be available for LE.

In Arizona you have the right to carry a gun if you're a law abiding citizen. Constitutional carry I believe it's called. I'm very leery of the government having records when it comes to firearms. Just saying.

[jreifsch80]

In Arizona you have the right to carry a gun if you're a law abiding citizen. Constitutional carry I believe it's called. I'm very leery of the government having records when it comes to firearms. Just saying.

wyoming has constitutional carry as well

[rockhound]

Lets print the names of everyone who is unarmed

[Troublco]

This newspaper has the same problem as so many other organizations, and people for that matter. They get so caught up in their agenda, and so focused on the idea that they can do something, that whether they should do it or not never enters the equation. (I'm sure these idiots wouldn't have cared, even if the subject came up.) There's a big difference between being able to do something, and whether you should; as Ghosty mentioned.

One of my former Chiefs (E-9's) once asked me during a promotion board, "What's the difference between doing things right, and doing the right thing?" Even if something is done right (Legally or with the appearance of) doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Our leadership wanted to make sure that our senior NCO's understood the difference. It's a shame our country's leaders seem to have a hard time with this.

At the same time, every year our unit had an Induction Ceremony for those who had been promoted to Senior NCO the prior year. The year I had mine, our speaker was a retired Army Sergeant Major. What he spoke of was the need to do the right thing, even if it came with consequences; and how important it was to recognize when you needed to do the right thing AND that you had to be willing to understand and accept the consequences that may come with it.

I think these things go along with the idea of Freedom as it should be; part and parcel of the same thing(s). I think that the idea of true freedom scares people, as it involves responsibility. Firearms ownership carries with it responsibility, and of the same type. The responsibility to take care of your family, yourself, is YOURS and not something handed to you by someone (or something, as in the Govt) else. Like living out on the prairie 150 years ago with the need to provide food, shelter, and security to your family resting on YOUR shoulders. People in this country don't understand true poverty, after you see how people live in some other countries you'd know what I mean. And with that lack of understanding, you start to lose perspective. I think that, and the liberal movement, have given us a lot of what we have today.

Basically, I think this sort of behavior is a symptom. A symptom of a system that is failing; or being deliberately undermined.