Ammo & Mags

[waxthis]

Anyone have any inside information as to what the ammo and magazine manufactures are doing considering the recent events? I would think they would be running 24-7 to get product out just in case restrictions are handed down. Just odd that nothing is available, nor does anyone know when it will be.

[hollohas]

They only have so much manufacturing capacity. Most were running at or near capacity before the panic. Nothing was available in 2008 either. Ammo, primers, powder, nothing. That time manufactures made efforts to increase capacity; new buildings, new machines, etc....I suspect people like Magpul won't be doing that this time, at least until they know what they will legally be able to manufacture in the future. Until then, they will just keep running at their current max capacity even if that can't keep up with demand.

[raymill]

Check my 2013 Shot show post, it breaks it down industry wide

[waxthis]

Check my 2013 Shot show post, it breaks it down industry wide

Great post, not sure how I missed it. Thanx!!

[MarkCO]

Prior to the election and Sandy Hook, many of the majors were already 3-6 months backordered. Sandy Hook cleared the shelves, but I still beleive a lot of that was hoarding and profiteering. I have some inside information from a many of the 2nd and 3rd tier suppliers that I deal with or have access to.

Factory ammo from the majors...don't expect the backlog to end until at LEAST 2014 and even then it might not clear. Magazines are starting to show up sporadically, but we won't have pre Sandy Hook stock levels in the LGS until at least a few more months. AR parts...some are coming back into the pipeline slowly. Some high end production is shifting from the lower profit or higher end parts to the mass market and less expensive parts.

Some of the custom builders have shifted their workforce to completing and shipping complete lowers with the plan that they will catch up on uppers later in the year. While some have hired non-essential staff, there does not appear to be a lot of invetment into skilled labor nor machinery.

You have to understand that there are several tiers in the industry as well and there are some major companies behind the scenes that most people would not recognize that make magazines, parts etc. The priming compound production is maxed out and has been for several years now.

The other tiers...Mil and LE orders have increased and they are getting filled first. There are certain groups that are getitng supplied as normal as well either due to advertising or prior agreements.

[sniper7]

They were already running full capacity. I think the dems keep scaring us to help the economy

[Ronin13]

Well I know for a fact that PMAGs have an NSN #, so they can continue to manufacture despite a ban- just hope they get enough business to stay afloat from the DoD... That's what Ofuckface doesn't get, any legislation is likely to hurt jobs and companies within the industry- thus proving he's the WORST president ever when it comes to jobs, among other things.

[KestrelBike]

Well I know for a fact that PMAGs have an NSN #, so they can continue to manufacture despite a ban- just hope they get enough business to stay afloat from the DoD... That's what Ofuckface doesn't get, any legislation is likely to hurt jobs and companies within the industry- thus proving he's the WORST president ever when it comes to jobs, among other things.

He gets it he just doesn't give a shit in the first place about the American economy.

[Gman]

He gets it he just doesn't give a shit in the first place about the American economy.
Doesn't care or is running a plan to do it damage?

If he didn't care, the market would take care of itself. By the repeated meddling in the market, I think what he's doing to the economy is intentional.

[KestrelBike]

Check my 2013 Shot show post, it breaks it down industry wide

For the lazy : http://www.ar-15.co/threads/83157-SHOT-Show-13?p=871249#post871249

[KestrelBike]

Doesn't care or is running a plan to do it damage?

If he didn't care, the market would take care of itself. By the repeated meddling in the market, I think what he's doing to the economy is intentional.

Way ahead of you : http://www.ar-15.co/threads/81075-Resist?p=848777&viewfull=1#post848777
and http://www.ar-15.co/threads/78023-Fiscal-Cliff-Tax-Advice?p=812085&viewfull=1#post812085
[Beer]

[Gman]

Sorry, didn't see your choir robe. [Wink]

[theGinsue]

Okay,this is one of those "a friend of a friend says" posts.

I work with a very active target shooter who says his sister works for Federal Ammunition. Since things has blown up due to the Sandy Hook tragedy, Federal has not been allowed to ship any ammunition. The word is that every shipment must be inspected & approved by a .fed inspector before it can leave the plant. One particular truckload was ready to be loaded when the inspector claimed the packaging was "too dirty". Federal re-packaged the entire shipment & then the inspector denied it out-of-and with no reason provided. Since that point, according to the co-workers sister, the shipments have been backing up and they've run out of room to store it.

I'm curious if there are similar stories with other ammo manufacturers.

[MarkCO]

Sorry, but I think that is myth. I have direct contact a 2 major ammo manufacturers, and James another, no such thing.

[Great-Kazoo]

Sorry, but I think that is myth. I have direct contact a 2 major ammo manufacturers, and James another, no such thing.

This. The Ammo being "held up" by who ever, where ever is similar to the twin tower inside job crap. DEMAND VS SUPPLY, We're demanding and they are unable to maintain a steady Supply.

[Sharpienads]

For the lazy : http://www.ar-15.co/threads/83157-SHOT-Show-13?p=871249#post871249

Thank you. I am one of the lazies.