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mcantar18c
01-20-2013, 15:12
I'm considering finally getting my first can next month, and every damn post on SilencerTalk says something different and often times contradictory.
It'll be on a .300WinMag with a 28" barrel. My primary goal is sound reduction, recoil reduction is a bonus, I don't care much about flash and weight is a non-issue (the lighter the better but I'm not willing to pay more than $100 extra purely for weight savings). I don't want a QD.
So, the suppressor a I've been seeing that fall into the 300WM category always say "up to .300WM." To me that means I'm at the top end of the limits of the can, and it won't perform as well as it would on say a .308. Given that sound reduction is my main concern, would I be better off going with a .338LM can? Would that even work, and would the benefits be significant enough to justify the extra cost? Is there a certain can regarded as the end-all-be-all of .300 magnum cans?
The opening will be bigger on the .338 cans. The volume will be higher tho. It could go either way. Bigger isn't always better. Example the 9Osprey from silencerco wat shortened 1in and it got quieter. Not much but quiter none the less. If you really want a good can try Stalking Rhino Ind. They do custom NFA items. The could build you a can and they usually are very resonable for what you get. Matt the owner really knows his stuff.
islandermyk
01-20-2013, 20:59
I'm no expert, but just thinking that a can with more baffles would be quieter... I would think...
I know those .338 cans are long... longer than'em .308 cans... I would like to say it would probably shut a 300wm up just as sufficient with the more baffles on board regardless the diameter.
... but I could be wrong.
I would really like to know and see how it turns out if you go to this .338 can route [Beer]
DeusExMachina
01-20-2013, 21:04
If you're planning on getting a 338 and want to only buy one can, get a 338 but know it will be bigger and heavier and may have worse sound reduction. But on a big, supersonic caliber, sound isn't the main benefit of the can. It's reducing blast, felt recoil, dust signature and muzzle jump. I can't speak on how well a 338 can does on a 300wm, and it's manufacturer specific.
TBACs are known to be one of the top cans for accuracy and they're just over the border in WY.
islandermyk
01-20-2013, 21:08
If you're planning on getting a 338 and want to only buy one can, get a 338 but know it will be bigger and heavier and may have worse sound reduction. But on a big, supersonic caliber, sound isn't the main benefit of the can. It's reducing blast, felt recoil, dust signature and muzzle jump. I can't speak on how well a 338 can does on a 300wm, and it's manufacturer specific.
TBACs are known to be one of the top cans for accuracy and they're just over the border in WY.
I heard these were great cans as well... I think they have these group buys on snipershide you should probably check out (I'm not completely sure of the details) if your thinking about going this route..
I run an AAC Titan SS on my 300WM and it supresses very well for something that is supersonic. What you lose by having a larger bore diameter you make up for, within a few db, with a larger volume (longer) can. The AAC Titan's in both Stainless Steel and Titanium are a good value for a .338 can but the TBAC is definitely the cat's meow and probably easier to find right now. It has an MSRP of $1695 but is titanium and only weighs 25 oz.
TriggerHappy
01-21-2013, 11:31
I have a TBAC 30p-1 on my 308 bolt gun, it is good for up to 300wm. I don't see any issues running it on a 300 and don't see it being a limit for the can, just the size of the round exiting the end. If there was TBAC would come up with another model. I am having some issues with POI (point of impact) shift, but otherwise very happy (still a very accurate group, with awesome repeatablilty). I would definitely buy another one and they are located in Cheyenne, which is a plus. Also, felt recoil and noise suppression is amazing.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/jake82/E6EE8818-92B9-4BBA-B3DC-CD4CA8A03730-5919-0000074FE7F0B731.jpg
DeusExMachina
01-21-2013, 11:50
I have a TBAC 30p-1 on my 308 bolt gun, it is good for up to 300wm. I don't see any issues running it on a 300 and don't see it being a limit for the can, just the size of the round exiting the end. If there was TBAC would come up with another model. I am having some issues with POI (point of impact) shift, but otherwise very happy (still a very accurate group, with awesome repeatablilty). I would definitely buy another one and they are located in Cheyenne, which is a plus. Also, felt recoil and noise suppression is amazing.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/jake82/E6EE8818-92B9-4BBA-B3DC-CD4CA8A03730-5919-0000074FE7F0B731.jpg
Hanging a pound off the muzzle is going to affect POI regardless. If it's repeatable is what matters. It is the shooter's responsibility to know and document the shift when shooting suppressed and unsuppressed.
Shooting a smaller diameter bullet through the can does not always mean less suppression . My 260 is quieter than my 308 through my 30P .
The 30P's are GTG with cartridges up to the powder capacity of 300WM , they size the tubes and baffles by the gas volume of the burnt powder . There are guy's I shoot with running all the way down to 223 through their 30P's with good suppression .
TriggerHappy
01-21-2013, 12:16
Hanging a pound off the muzzle is going to affect POI regardless. If it's repeatable is what matters. It is the shooter's responsibility to know and document the shift when shooting suppressed and unsuppressed.
It is repeatable and I do have dope for both suppressed and unsupressed. TBAC has had good custy service about this this as well, otherwise I wouldn't have recommended them or want another one. It may have something to do with them re-threading the can for me, when I bought it, it was a metric thread for an AI and I needed a standard NATO thread. Phil, thanks for pointing this out. It just has a little more shift than about 5 of my other cans. Rob, is just as baffled as I am.
DeusExMachina
01-21-2013, 13:40
How much are we talking?
Darth Stang
01-29-2013, 00:23
Might I also Suggest Liberty Suppressor, a solid firm that has given me absolute top notch customer service. Their cans are built like tanks and usually handle full-auto fire. They have one designed for 300 Win mag and it will handle lower calibers as well. I have one of their Mystic multicaliber cans and I absolutlely love it!
http://libertycans.net/Freedom_Mag.html (http://libertycans.net/Freedom_Mag.html)
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