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StreetDoctor
01-21-2013, 12:31
I have a question for you guys here. I recently bought a Glock from Neves without any issue (3 weeks ago). I called today to check on the background on another new purchase and they said my application failed. He said it was due to incorrect information on it. The only problem is we went over the entire thing 3 times, and it's filled out correctly, and exactly the same as the last one. They resubmitted it and I have 6 days and 20 hours to wait, but what happens if it fails again? I can't see getting a hold of someone on the phone at CBI to be very easy? They said they've had this happen in the past, and second time around it went through. But WTF?
What was the incorrect information? It could be that Neeves typed something wrong when they entered your app into the system.
It helps to use your social security number, which is optional. I had a friend get denied last year because someone with the same name was prohibited. He had to fax in his drivers license and some other documentation, and the issue was resolved in a few months.
StreetDoctor
01-21-2013, 12:41
What was the incorrect information? It could be that Neeves typed something wrong when they entered your app into the system.
It helps to use your social security number, which is optional. I had a friend get denied last year because someone with the same name was prohibited. He had to fax in his drivers license and some other documentation, and the issue was resolved in a few months.
They didn't say, just that CBI said some information was incorrect. My SS# was on both applications. All info was correct.
CrufflerSteve
01-21-2013, 12:42
I don't like using my sosh security # but I have a very common name and I'm sure some person with the same name somewhere would be denied. Probably input error somewhere.
Some people think by not including their SS# that it makes them more anonymous. Anybody in IT knows that all of the information at the governments's disposal is a simple query away. :p
Probably the cheap contractors that they have helping with the load. Maybe they outsourced it to India.
spittoon
01-21-2013, 13:14
Probably the cheap contractors that they have helping with the load. Maybe they outsourced it to India.[ROFL1] good one
StreetDoctor
01-21-2013, 13:26
either way I'm pissed. I have aftermarket sites, and 500 rds waiting for my new gun! Was supposed to go shoot tomorrow dammit.
either way I'm pissed. I have aftermarket sites, and 500 rds waiting for my new gun! Was supposed to go shoot tomorrow dammit.
Maybe someone finally said you were mental.. you know from when you peed in the corner during kindergarten
jackthewall81
01-21-2013, 14:04
We will all begin to magically fail cbi checks...
KestrelBike
01-21-2013, 14:08
What was the incorrect information? It could be that Neeves typed something wrong when they entered your app into the system.
It helps to use your social security number, which is optional. I had a friend get denied last year because someone with the same name was prohibited. He had to fax in his drivers license and some other documentation, and the issue was resolved in a few months.
A few months? That's fabulous. Guilty until proven innocent indeed.
The dude at Neves could have fat fingered something as simple as your address or the spelling of your middle name. It happens.
I failed it once. Turns out my drivers license was expired by a couple of days so they no longer considered it a "valid form of identification".
You did play by their silly rules and didn't abbreviate things, right?
ChunkyMonkey
01-21-2013, 14:33
Call the CBI hotline.. It happened to me when they entered an old address instead of the new one in the back of ID. Not sure why that matter, but apparently you cannot change residency within the last 3 months and purchase a gun. I had to forward them 3 month worth of XCEL energy bill.
I had to forward them 3 month worth of XCEL energy bill.
I'm happy you were green enough to get approved. Twisty bulbs for the win!
stevelkinevil
01-21-2013, 15:09
Keep in mind that 80+% of CBI denials are overturned on appeal
Early on with the system I was delayed for 3 days, then delayed for 5 days, then outright denied. I was given a form to fill out and mail in. On it, it stated that with their reply and decision I would be told why I had been denied to begin with. I filled it out and mailed it in and the denial was overturned BUT they never did state why I was denied to begin with.
Fill out the forms and refute the denial. It will probably be overturned.
trlcavscout
01-21-2013, 15:52
I failed it once. Turns out my drivers license was expired by a couple of days so they no longer considered it a "valid form of identification".
You did play by their silly rules and didn't abbreviate things, right?
I had a denial a couple years ago because they said my license was expired, it wasnt. I think its like any job, someone wanted to coffee shop a couple and get out of some work so he could IM that hot blonde down the hall [Beer]
OneGuy67
01-21-2013, 15:59
You should have received information from Neve's to file an appeal. The CBI has one complete section of Instacheck that only does appeals. In 2010, the statute changed from the buyer being required to prove why they shouldn't be denied to the CBI having to prove the buyer should be denied. I don't know if the denial overturn rate is 80% as someone else suggested, but mistakes do happen and you could be one of them.
dogbreath650
01-21-2013, 16:41
We will all begin to magically fail cbi checks...
This ^^ worries me, especially if its not transparent as to what is causing the failure...
DavieD55
01-21-2013, 17:08
We will all begin to magically fail cbi checks...
We've gotta make sure the mentally ill dont fall through the cracks of those backround checks.
Not directed at you StreetDoctor.
StreetDoctor
01-21-2013, 17:21
Funny I laughed and told the guy that. I just finished getting processed for a fire department job. In the last 2 months I've passed: background, polygraph, and psychological exam LOL. I did recently move BUT that was about 6 months ago and the rest background went through fine. Anyone have the hotline # to talk to someone at CBI?
OneGuy67
01-21-2013, 17:34
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDPS-CBIMain/CBON/1251622181735
StreetDoctor
01-21-2013, 17:50
ok talked to CBI lady. Apparently it has to do with my middle name when I updated the address on my drivers license. What a pain in the ass...
I just updated my address a couple months ago and have not bought anything since. I hope that there is not a mess of shit waiting for me the next time that I try.
and psychological exam LOL.
Ther Dems want to make this alone enough to deny you.
...but mistakes do happen and you could be one of them.
I thought that sounded a bit harsh.[Coffee]
OneGuy67
01-21-2013, 18:06
I thought that sounded a bit harsh.[Coffee]
Yeah, my grammar was off on that. No offense to StreetDoctor. I wasn't calling him a mistake!
I know it's maybe not what you want to hear but I had a issue like yours for several years and now I give them my ssn and never had any more problem.
StreetDoctor
01-21-2013, 18:18
Ther Dems want to make this alone enough to deny you.
That's a whole different argument... they even asked me if I had a CCW... during my psych... for a fire department job.
dwalker460
01-21-2013, 19:23
I was denied when I first moved here because someone with the same name was a bad person. Had to prove I was me and not a bad person. Took having records sent from Tennessee to clear it all up. What a PITA.
NightCat
01-21-2013, 20:21
Dont want to start another thread...but besides calling my local store, is there a way to know where I am in line?
strm_trpr
01-21-2013, 20:47
That's a whole different argument... they even asked me if I had a CCW... during my psych... for a fire department job.
was your psych at nicolette? they always ask that.
Dont want to start another thread...but besides calling my local store, is there a way to know where I am in line?
Nope. Just take a poke at 7-8 business days.
StreetDoctor
01-21-2013, 21:04
was your psych at nicolette? they always ask that.
YEP. Interesting... not my first psych or FD job (originally from Chicago and worked there) and I've never been asked that before. Caught me a bit off guard.
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