Here we Go: National ‘assault weapon’ ban coming Thursday

[SuperiorDG]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s office confirmed that she will be introducing in the Senate Thursday a new version of the so-called assault weapon ban. A spokesman said the full text will be released at a press conference on Thursday.
The California Democrat intends to expand on the ban that expired in 2004, by including handguns and shotguns, in addition to rifles. She would decrease from two to one the number of cosmetic features on a gun to have it be considered an “assault weapon.”
Furthermore, instead of grandfathering in current firearms, she would create a national gun registry for the government to track lawful gun owners. Magazines would again be limited to 10 rounds.
The Clinton-era bill was not renewed by Congress after the Federal Bureau of Investigation and law enforcement agencies reported that it was ineffective in reducing crime.
President Obama said that a top priority is to get “an assault weapons ban that is meaningful” passed this year.
A summary of Mrs. Feinstein’s legislation is below.
Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:


120 specifically-named firearms;
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:


Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test;
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.

Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:


Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment;
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.

Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:


Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.



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[lowbeyond]

fuck that cunt

[82ndShooter]

I concur ^^^^

[mtnrider]

So has anyone seen verbiage on how this will be implemented? (assuming it goes through which I am betting it does)
Are they going to require a $200 stamp for each firearm that falls in this category? Time limits to get this done? Our Sheriff has a 3 month wait for CCW appointments now. If this goes into effect it will be over a year wait for sign offs I bet?

Maybe that haven't thought all of that out but just wondering if anyone has seen any thing on it?


Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:



Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.

[asmo]

So what are we going to DO about it?

Besides bitch and whine and moan...

[Ghosty]

Yeah, fuck that cunt. Getting fingerprinted like a criminal for what they consider "scary", what a crock. Thankfully it won't pass the House.

[SuperiorDG]

So what are we going to DO about it?

Besides bitch and whine and moan...

Yea, and if it passes I'll come over in the middle of the night and bury all my shit in your back yard.

[Great-Kazoo]

Yeah, fuck that cunt. Getting fingerprinted like a criminal for what they consider "scary", what a crock. Thankfully it won't pass the House.

Thankfully the Fienswine AWB info hasn't been posted here, again.
We all know she and ChuckU Schumer among others are after all guns. Call , write, e-mail, fax then do it again. Ruger has a nice form letter. WHICH is already stickied on the board you can click on and fill out.

[Teufelhund]

So what are we going to DO about it?

Besides bitch and whine and moan...

Unconstitutional laws are not laws. That's as much as I'll say here to respect the house rules. You can glean from my previous comments on the subject what my stance is.

[DOC]

A protector of the Bill of Rights she is not. A steward for the people we could ask for better. A poster child for poor gun safety and to scare children into going to sleep. Well she has got us on that one.

[BPTactical]

It is a pile of shit she is flinging at the wall to see what sticks.
The majority of it will be thrown out before it ever comes up for vote.

[DeusExMachina]

Yea, and if it passes I'll come over in the middle of the night and bury all my shit in your back yard.

If it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them back up.

[ray1970]

If it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them back up.

[Awesom]

[Great-Kazoo]

If it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them back up.

If you feel the need to bury your guns, you are way beyond needing them.

[DOC]

We are unorganized red necks trying to live out lives. That is an easy target for them.

[hatidua]

We are unorganized red necks trying to live out lives. That is an easy target for them.

One of the most unfortunate things about gun owners is each subgroup only seemingly worrying about their own little corner of the sport. A pheasant hunter who owns Purdey shotguns isn't the least bit bothered by AR's being banned - those rifles are of no use or interest to him. Similarly, benchrest competitors probably don't particularly care if 3-gun is done away with entirely. There's precious little unity across the shooting sports.

Sadly, I don't think any sector of the discipline is immune from the anti-gun folks. Sooner or later, they are after each and every type of firearm.

[BuffCyclist]

I thought this was supposed to have been introduced today, 1/22. Perhaps I am mistaken, but I've been scouring news websites today looking for any info on the reaction after it was introduced. Guess I'll have to wait 2 more days.

[Adawg38]

Ha! This is what I say to this [pileoshit]! If they sign it they are [pileoshit]! If they want them they can't have [pileoshit]! This bitch is a big pile of [pileoshit]!

[trlcavscout]

From what the repub congress has said, and the yellow belly dems, wont be no vote. Doubt they could muster enough support.

Yes i have emailed everyone and given what money i could to fight the fight.

[Gman]

The Dems have Senate seats coming in the mid-terms in heavily contested states. They may not even pass it in the Senate. If it does, it's dead in the House.

[Great-Kazoo]

No NFA on AW's NONE. The legal quagmire (that's right i used quagmire) of having gun owners in state's that do not have NFA is a dead deal. Not to mention it will take an act of congress to make an entire section of firearms NFA items.
bad enough Cuomo fuked the LE's in NYS and will face a heller V DC challenge in the state regarding magazine capacity, wait it's a coming.

Tom Fury Knows. This house is in need of protection.

[sniper7]

that shit won't fly at all. She is beyond help. that is the good thing about her; she is far too over-reaching.
I've wrote everyone multiple times, seems like they are all set in their stance. Got one today that said he didn't think it would even make it to the house.

[DavieD55]

Anyone who supports this or goes along with it can suck a wet fart out of my ass!

[Dave]

No NFA on AW's NONE. The legal quagmire (that's right i used quagmire)

Gigitty

Like I've stated before, I doubt it even gets past the Senate and would be doa at the House. The biggest worry is still what Chickenblooper wants to do at the state level now that he has control of the legislature.

[KestrelBike]

Who else is throwing a party when that dumb piece of shit feinswine croaks?

[vossman]

Beat me to it


Gigitty

Like I've stated before, I doubt it even gets past the Senate and would be doa at the House. The biggest worry is still what Chickenblooper wants to do at the state level now that he has control of the legislature.

[mosinnagant577]

So forgive me if this has already been mentioned but say under this bullshit ban if one party wants to privately sell a firearm to another party, they expect both parties to go down to a place with an ffl and have the buyer fill out a background check before he can buy the firearm? Or what? As if the wait for a background isn't long enough already

[Clint45]

So forgive me if this has already been mentioned but say under this bullshit ban if one party wants to privately sell a firearm to another party, they expect both parties to go down to a place with an ffl and have the buyer fill out a background check before he can buy the firearm? Or what? As if the wait for a background isn't long enough already

It would likely be a federal felony, if they have their way. No parole in the federal system, rights gone forever, and the only way to fix things is with a Presidential pardon . . . and you've got a better chance of winning the lottery.

[Great-Kazoo]

So forgive me if this has already been mentioned but say under this bullshit ban if one party wants to privately sell a firearm to another party, they expect both parties to go down to a place with an ffl and have the buyer fill out a background check before he can buy the firearm? Or what? As if the wait for a background isn't long enough already

They shut the fuk up and not advertise what they are doing. The WOD is working so well at keeping H off the streets.

[losttrail]

I would suggest that we write our senators and reps, but Lamborn is the only one that would listen.

Udall and Bennet are idiotic 'yes' men to whatever the DNC puts forth.

[Ronin13]

So what are we going to DO about it?

Besides bitch and whine and moan...
Give Congress a bunch of ropes tied into nooses and say "You know what to do when you find anyone who supports this guilty." Then pressure them to actually do it. No kidding, this is treason DiFi is talking about here- infringing upon the constitution she swore to defend is unacceptable and we need to tell congress that this shit cannot stand!

[DOC]

Udall and Bennet write letters in reply that are word for word the same talking points that the Brandy Bunch put out. They just sign their names to it. They need to go.

[Jer]

Come and take them. You have my address.

[lilpromisedland]

We should all contact our Congressional representatives and (I humbly suggest - politely, so they acknowledge our comments) express our viewpoints. We should do this because it is our right, our privilege, and our responsibility to do so, even if we already think/know they disagree with us. At least then we will have participated in trying to change things, by speaking up to those who can help change the situation. [Flower]

Here is a link to find your reps that is probably already posted somewhere else, just in case it is needed again:
http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx

[Great-Kazoo]

We should all contact our Congressional representatives and (I humbly suggest - politely, so they acknowledge our comments) express our viewpoints. We should do this because it is our right, our privilege, and our responsibility to do so, even if we already think/know they disagree with us. At least then we will have participated in trying to change things, by speaking up to those who can help change the situation. [Flower]

Here is a link to find your reps that is probably already posted somewhere else, just in case it is needed again:
http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx


Little late to the party. There are numerous post regarding letters sent, replies, NRA, RMGO ABCD, LSD CBS & NBC. I hear there a few regarding an AWB.
























insert sarcasm smiley here.

[Delvehound]

Writing letters, even politely doesn't help if the folks reading those letters don't care. This proposed law blows. It is completely unconstitutional, and most of it will be cut out. But, it wouldn't be the first unconstitutional law to somehow pass... Look at Obamacare... I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather be prepared for the worst possible situation, than to be caught flat footed...

[Gunner]

So is today the day?

[BuffCyclist]

So is today the day?

Supposedly, although I had heard (and assumed before this thread) that she was introducing it on January 22nd, which was Tuesday.


eta: Damit! And with this crappy post, I have now become a High Power Shooter [Weight]. And we can't have that. So, without further ado, I will proceed THROUGH the security checkpoint to receive my new title.




[Metal]

[GoldFinger]

Going on right now:
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/

Making me ill.

[blacklabel]

I'm listening to it at work. No, I don't know why I am.

[BuffCyclist]

Going on right now:
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/

Making me ill.

Thanks for the link. Watching it as well and I'm doing so much [facepalm], my hand hasn't come off my forehead for a few minutes now.


BWAHAHAHA, "WMD's are destroying out neighborhoods"

[blacklabel]

Your AR15 is now a WMD according to the mayor of Philadelphia.

No blame for the perp, only the firearm.

[GoldFinger]

I'm listening to it at work. No, I don't know why I am.

It's like watching a train wreck. So F*&ked that you can't turn away.

[BuffCyclist]

It's like watching a train wreck. So F*&ked that you can't turn away.

I know, its like watching a movie where one person speaks up and everyone jumps on the bandwagon saying they firmly believe in this.



"Wait, we have to go BEYOND just an Assauld Weapons Ban, our streets are plagued..."

WTF?!


"Tell me why these weapons need to be in the hands of civilians... they weren't made for that!"

Yes, as a matter of fact, they ARE made for that! They are semi-auto rifles meant for civilian use. Many people have said that, yet these morons won't listen.


"If a safety lock was installed on the rifle used by Adam Lanza, the shooting wouldn't have been happened!"

Really? What the heck is a safety lock? Does it lock the safety into safe?

[blacklabel]

Phil. Police commissioner wants registration but hey, we're not trying to take your guns.

[Rucker61]

And he thinks that a .223 would totally destroy your hunting prey. He's either too ignorant to be testifying or a blatant liar. Or both.

[BuffCyclist]

There are so many ignorant and blatant lies littered within every single speakers words, I can't type and comment fast enough!

[blacklabel]

50 people were killed at Virginia Tech? What the?

[robertcolorado2009]

i CAN'T WATCH THIS, i GET WAY TOO ANGRY AND HERE AT WORK MY PEERS DON'T WANT TO HEAR ME YELLING AT THE MONITOR. sORRY BOUT THE CAPS.

[Gunner]

Holy shit this is ridiculous

[Gunner]

Cunt face is talking

[blacklabel]

Perlmutter is introducing it to the house. Of course he is.

[BuffCyclist]

Oh my GOD that was painful to watch! They truly do live in their own little world, where laying down laws will ban violent criminal behavior. They TRULY believe the [pileoshit] that spews from their mouths.

[Rucker61]

i CAN'T WATCH THIS, i GET WAY TOO ANGRY AND HERE AT WORK MY PEERS DON'T WANT TO HEAR ME YELLING AT THE MONITOR. sORRY BOUT THE CAPS.

Already caught myself with one outburst. ;)

[DOC]

Didn't they say there wasn't support for this bill?

[Ghosty]

Oh God, I can't watch, no TV at work, but sounds horrifying. But look at the bright side, maybe it's so far overboard there is no way it'll pass, right? (now calling my roommate to hide his "AR-WMD-15" somewhere else)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/SpectralCat/Emoticons/facepalm.gif

P.S. You realize that mentioning WMD in the posts now has filtered through that giant NSA data networking storehouse in Utah, and we are all on the HLS/NSA/FBI "watch lists". (semi-joking)

[losttrail]

I would like any of these idiot jackasses be asked to explain why the majority of the perpetrators are DEMOCRATS!

I can't take any more of this. I'll burst a blood vessel.

Going back to listening to Pink Floyd.

[Gunner]

Oh God, I can't watch, no TV at work, but sounds horrifying. But look at the bright side, maybe it's so far overboard there is no way it'll pass, right?...

That's what I'm hoping for...... I think we will see mag bans, no importation, and more in depth back grounds possibly registration and no private party

[blacklabel]

P.S. You realize that mentioning WMD in the posts now has filtered through that giant NSA data networking storehouse in Utah, and we are all on the HLS/NSA/FBI "watch lists". (semi-joking)

We're already on it.


Going back to listening to Pink Floyd.

You should listen to Comfortably Numb and cheer yourself up.

[Gunner]

Jeeze who is this David Chipman tool?

[hatidua]

-very happy I never had children that would grow up in the U.S. as it is headed.

[T.rexford]

I wonder about the number of jobs that would be lost if the ban was passed. Manufacture is not allowed according to what I heard. So I guess that means only .mil and LEO contracts would be allowed to be manufactured.

There is no end to the hypocrisy.

[blacklabel]

I wonder about the number of jobs that would be lost if the ban was passed. Manufacture is not allowed according to what I heard. So I guess that means only .mil and LEO contracts would be allowed to be manufactured.

There is no end to the hypocrisy.

And don't forget about the further debt that the US will go into in order to enforce this crap.

[Ingman]

Is the actual text of the bill available anywhere yet?

[USAFGopherMike]

Is the actual text of the bill available anywhere yet?

Haven't seen it, but watching that CSPan clip scared me.

[Ghosty]

Update today, with good commentary on the latest (unbiased) reasons that the current bill might or might not pass...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/04/assault-weapons-ban_n_2617091.html?1360009978


WASHINGTON -- Barring an unexpected turn of legislative affairs, a ban on military-style semi-automatic assault weapons will not make it into law, top Hill aides and gun policy advocates say.

The ban will get a vote. But the purpose of that vote will be in part to facilitate its demise. The expectation is that there won't be 60 members of the upper chamber to support the bill's inclusion in the final legislative language.

The likelihood that an assault weapons ban ends up in the legislative scrapheap is hardly unexpected -- the Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324761004578282203882922738.html) also reported on the issue on Monday morning. The ban is the most controversial of four major components of the gun control platform that the Obama administration introduced and that congressional Democrats have touted. The other three -- a universal background check for firearms sales, a federal trafficking law, and a ban on high-capacity magazines -- are likely to be part of a final bill, Democratic aides say, though there is growing concern about whether a ban on high-capacity magazines can make it into law.

The maneuvering around the assault weapons ban underscores how delicate the process of putting together a bill has become. Facing legislative hurdles, top lawmakers are gaming out procedural steps to placate both longtime gun control advocates and those more wary of an ambitious package of reforms.
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[ANADRILL]

Who else is throwing a party when that dumb piece of shit feinswine croaks?

Just keep summoning that bitch up from the beyond, just cuz you can, and never let her rest..

[DOC]

She has always been at odds with the constitution. Even when she was in her early 80's and she left Salem after all those people started getting accused of being a witch and she moved on to DC to be a protestor outside the first congressional congress I remember her words then too. "If I could have gotten 7 1/2 votes in the Colony. Mr. and Mrs. New Frontier turn them all in... I would have."
She has been around for a long time living off the flesh of the newly dead to sustain her life a little longer. Before there was a word for it this Tool with a capital "G" she has made her mark all over the US. She was feeding off the buffalo nonstop to maintain her fat levels during the long winters prowling the woods. And in the summer too. She just never lost it. Causing the Native Americans to starve and soon to start dieing off. Which gave her more sustenance to keep on living another 18 decades. She was rumored to have been caught once by the Cherokee Indians but was released after telling some 8 thousand of them where there nearest US Army outfit was hiding. His name was sitting bull. Given that name after jumping on her back during the capture I'm sure.
That is all I remember now since by the time I learned all of this the History Channel was co-oped by the liberal media and all they talk about now is how Aliens were in the bible and they cancelled all the shows that resemble history like Tales of the Gun, Mail Call....
Maybe, someone else can remember better than I and pick up where I left off?