NBC Admits No Assault Rifle used at Sandy Hook

[Ghosty]

Sorry if repost, but I searched several times with different keywords including Sandy Hook, NBC, etc.

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/30208-nbc-admits-no-assault-rifle-used-in-newtown-shooting/

Good post from my buddy on CRN:

So they finally had to come out and admit it; now that the Coroner has released some info, along with Police. An AR-15 Rifle (Bushmaster)- the so-called "Assault Weapon" was NOT used in the school shooting. The shooter even tried earlier to buy a Rifle, but was turned down in the background check. So he had to kill his Mother, and steal her rifle. There were initial reports right after the shooting that Police found the AR-15 Rifle in his car, NOT IN THE SCHOOL. The Rifle was not used. The Shooter went into the school with 4 concealed handguns- not an "Assault Rifle", as the media has charged (no doubt because, carrying a rifle would have made his intentions patently obvious) .

Remember in the intitial hours of this shooting, the Police said they found the Rifle in the car. Apparently, the News Media had a Pre-Planned "explanation" already waiting, to support their agenda of banning so-called assault weapons; and jumped on that line of reporting- knowing it was a lie. This includes people like Piers Morgan- who said the shooter used an AR-15 that shoots hundreds of rounds per minute, as if it were a machine gun. What kind of journalists engage in this distorted and dishonest misrepresentation of available facts? This kind of sensationalist, false rhetoric
undermines all credibility, is counterproductive to crafting genuine solutions, and is unworthy of being called NEWS.

The specific 1st Amendment protections afforded the News Media ("freedom of the press") include a sacred responsibility- to serve as the public's watchdog, and to pursue the TRUTH- no matter where it leads. This is yet another example of their utter and abject failure; and more evidence- to question everything that comes out of their mouth. Even MSNBC saw fit to correct the record (a record that was created in an intentionally false rush to judgment):

http://video.today.m...208495#50208495 (http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495)

Fuckers. Sounds to me like the gun-laws, in place, worked.....

[HBARleatherneck]

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/81659-The-Sandy-Hook-thread-I-just-bumped-is-gone-!?highlight=sandy+hook

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/77221-Which-gun-was-used?highlight=sandy+hook

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/78243-AR-s-used-at-Sandy-HS-fact?highlight=coroner

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/84275-No-rifle-was-used?highlight=coroner

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/77241-Hold-on-looks-like-it-was-handguns-and-a-shotgun-in-the-trunk?highlight=coroner

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/78097-So-what-guns-were-used?highlight=shooting

[Bailey Guns]

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/81659-The-Sandy-Hook-thread-I-just-bumped-is-gone-!?highlight=sandy+hook

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/77221-Which-gun-was-used?highlight=sandy+hook

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/78243-AR-s-used-at-Sandy-HS-fact?highlight=coroner

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/84275-No-rifle-was-used?highlight=coroner

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/77241-Hold-on-looks-like-it-was-handguns-and-a-shotgun-in-the-trunk?highlight=coroner

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/78097-So-what-guns-were-used?highlight=shooting

So...you're saying it's a re-re-re-re-re-re-post?

[Coffee]

[Ghosty]

Damn, usually my search criteria is good. FAILBOAT! (sorry) Mods please delete.

[Ah Pook]

R Naw, too easy. :D

[crashdown]

Could the repost enforcer be guilty of a repost if he reposts a repost enforcement from a prior repost?
Just sayin.......

[StreetDoctor]

Sorry if repost, but I searched several times with different keywords including Sandy Hook, NBC, etc.

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/30208-nbc-admits-no-assault-rifle-used-in-newtown-shooting/

Good post from my buddy on CRN:

You aren't very observant. The bottom of the link you posted,

"Editor’s note: Connecticut State Police have confirmed (http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/31221-update-state-police-confirm-weapons-used-in-newtown-shootings/) that Adam Lanza did, in fact, use a Bushmaster .223 high capacity rifle and two hand guns. As far as we can tell, NBC has not issued a retraction."

[StagLefty]

Could the repost enforcer be guilty of a repost if he reposts a repost ennforcement from a prior repost?
Just sayin.......

Only if it's not grandfathered !!

[Waywardson174]

You aren't very observant. The bottom of the link you posted,

"Editor’s note: Connecticut State Police have confirmed (http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/31221-update-state-police-confirm-weapons-used-in-newtown-shootings/) that Adam Lanza did, in fact, use a Bushmaster .223 high capacity rifle and two hand guns. As far as we can tell, NBC has not issued a retraction."

Followed the link, got here http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/31221-update-state-police-confirm-weapons-used-in-newtown-shootings/

Police confirmed they found the Bushmaster, not that it was used.

[mahabali]

Isnt that video a month old?

[StreetDoctor]

Followed the link, got here http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/31221-update-state-police-confirm-weapons-used-in-newtown-shootings/

Police confirmed they found the Bushmaster, not that it was used.


WOW! Neither are you LOL... Did you even look at the link you posted?


The released list of weapons sets the record straight on an issue that has driven the blogosphere to increasingly speculative lengths: exactly which weapons were used in the shooting? The weapons seized from the attacker Adam Lanza are as follows, according to the State Police:
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber– model XM15-E2S (http://www.bushmaster.com/electronic-documents/operation-manual/opmanual.pdf) rifle with high capacity 30 round clips

#2. Glock 10 mm handgun
#3. Sig-Sauer P226 (http://www.sigsauer.com/catalogproductlist/pistols-p226.aspx) 9mm handgun
Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot:
#4. Izhmash Canta-12 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12) 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot)


As much as we both don't want it to be true he used an AR15. Stop pushing the conspiracy theory bullshit that's making us look like crazies.

[DavieD55]

I dont think the public will ever know what really happened there.

[Waywardson174]

The weapons seized from the attacker Adam Lanza are as follows, according to the State Police


[hahhah-no]

Yes, read it. Looks like you didn't. The police didn't say he used the Bushmaster, just that it "seized from the attacker". You're doing the same thing the reporter in the story did, assume that because it was seized that it was used. I didn't say the Bushmaster was or wasn't used. I said the police have confirmed they seized it. Still no confirmation from the police it was used. The police reports are supposed to be released in March. That's when we'll know. Until then I reserve judgment.

Good try though.

[StreetDoctor]

[hahhah-no]

Yes, read it. Looks like you didn't. The police didn't say he used the Bushmaster, just that it "seized from the attacker". You're doing the same thing the reporter in the story did, assume that because it was seized that it was used. I didn't say the Bushmaster was or wasn't used. I said the police have confirmed they seized it. Still no confirmation from the police it was used. The police reports are supposed to be released in March. That's when we'll know. Until then I reserve judgment.

Good try though.


It says "exactly what weapons were used..." and there is a separate section that says "Seized from suspects car...."

I'm sorry I don't wear a tinfoil hat.

[Bailey Guns]

Like it really fuckin' matters at this point.

[BlasterBob]

Ghosty, thanks for your 1st post in this thread. Apparently I had missed any other threads covering this matter. [blaster]

[Waywardson174]

I'm sorry I don't wear a tinfoil hat.

Congrats on staying hat free. I just got my 30 day chip, but once again you missed my point. The question was what guns were used. The answer given was these guns were seized. The mistake I accuse you and the reporter of making is the incorporation of the subject matter of the question into the answer. The answer denotes seizure and location, but not actual use. The first indication of use we got from the coroner who ID'd the wound channels as consistent with a rifle. Sure we can say with reasonable confidence that the shotgun, being in the car, was not used. But claiming that any one of the firearms found inside was or was not used is beyond the publicly available facts.

I like to read between the lines, yes, but I am hardly a conspiracy theorist. I merely pointed out that the police identified seizure, not actual use. I continue to wait for the full report to come out in March before I say I know what firearms were used. I'm not touting some vast conspiracy, though I do find it very interesting that not one report concerning spent casings has leaked. But that's where it ends for me, interesting, as in, I'll continue to watch for details on this in the future.

[spyder]

You know..... We need five more stupid threads like this. I like all the BS being slung anyway.....

[Squeeze]

+1 for waywardson. Looks like I'll be throwing StreetDoctor on the "block" list. How hard is it to be reasonable towards people when responding to a post and being intelligent about it. Perhaps I'm expecting too much. Davie got it right. None of us will ever know what "really" happened there. I've never trusted the media to get anything right on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, time around - if at all. Bottom line - if you weren't there, you will never know 100% of the facts, ever.

[husky390]

Like it really fuckin' matters at this point.

Hey, that's Hillary's line.

[Adawg38]

Ha ha h I knew it! I called that [pileoshit]! I'm guessing the Anti-Gun are also behind all these Mass Shootings.