Dogs shot in Castle Rock

[Ashton]

How the fuck do you not hear gun shots in your BACKYARD. Short of pooping, peeing, or eating my dogs basically follow me everywhere... and I assume most dogs do. [Mad][Mad][Mad][Mad][Mad]

Something smells stinky here... Plus the fucker looks like a dirtbag IMHO.

[Ashton]

Should probably give a link so not so vague as other posts.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/castle-rock/castle-rock-couple-wonders-if-their-2-dogs-were-killed-because-of-their-barking

[clworth22]

Smells like neighborhood justice to me. I can't stand dog owners that let their dogs bark and yap in the yard without yelling at them or trying to curb the barking.

[Bailey Guns]

I don't know these people and I feel sorry for the dogs. But it's obvious from the story, their past history with their dogs barking and their comments these this couple are dirtbags and shouldn't be allowed to own animals. It's a shame you can't shoot stupid people like this instead. And the animals have to suffer because of their owner's lack of concern for them.

[Bailey Guns]

Smells like neighborhood justice to me. I can't stand dog owners that let their dogs bark and yap in the yard without yelling at them or trying to curb the barking.

The dog is just being a dog. If that smells like "justice" to you then you're as bad as the dog owners in the story. Yelling at a dog does not change their barking behavior. FFS.

[Kraven251]

Really depends, if it was a pellet rifle it could easily kill a small dog.

I don't care if you don't like someone's animal barking or carrying on, you talk to the owner and follow the legal process, you do not just kill an animal in someone's yard. I truly dislike little yappy dogs, but I hope these folks find the justice they are looking for in the deaths of their pets.

[GlockDog47]

Well fuck with the dog owners. Dogs bark, not there fault its the damn owner. Some people just need to get on chill pills, people are too up tight.

[Gman]

I don't condone killing the animals, but I can understand someone being driven to that point by incessantly barking dogs. I've had neighbors with dogs that just didn't seem to care nor had any idea how to train or control their animals. Sleep deprivation, etc.

[cofi]

dogs bark.....its what they do

and if your living close enough to your neighbor that you can hear his dog barking inside your house your doing this whole colorado thing wrong imo

[HBARleatherneck]

dogs bark.....its what they do

and if your living close enough to your neighbor that you can hear his dog barking inside your house your doing this whole colorado thing wrong imo

no, they are doing it right. and stay there. there is no more room out here.

[Gman]

Dogs can be trained. If you let them run wild all over you, then yes they will bark at their shadow, the wind, etc.

[josh7328]

Pellet gun or .22 subsonics are pretty quiet.

[10mm-man]

I hope they find the dirt bag and pin his ass! So many things wrong with shooting your neighbors dog. I think a certain LEO was charged with a felony for the same, no?

[clworth22]

Obviously, one neighbor was driven to the point of vigilantism. I'm not saying the dogs deserved to be killed, but dogs are usually an example of their owners training or lack of. Could this incident be handled differently? Yes of course it should have been handled legally. Since there is a police record of the dogs barking it is very possible the owners were talked to by concerned neighbors regarding the barking dog issue before authorities were involved. I myself have heard of this occurring in my lifetime. Definitely not in a urban environment though. Think what you want of me, I don't care one bit. But I guarantee the people that didn't do this crime that live in the neighborhood are all glad they don't have to endure the noise. Not that they would admit it. I love my dog and the dogs I've had before her. But the phrase "Dogs are people too" just pisses me off. As much as we love and care for our dogs they're still just animals, not humans.

[TheBelly]

Dogs aren't people. They don't have the luxury of understanding logic. Therefore, as humans, we have the sacred duty to care for those that have entrusted their care into our hands.

if you have taken a pet, then care for it.

The example I bring is this: every time I deploy for any length of time, I can't explain it to my dog. She just knows that I stopped coming home. My wife tells me that my dog sits at the door that I last walked out. She sits there all day.

These owners didn't care for their pets by training them. There's a special place in hell for whoever did this to those dogs.

[Kraven251]

Something else I was reminded of when my neighbors just let their dogs out...

The Castle Rock area like most of the bottled up neighborhoods have rabbits everywhere. Most dogs that rarely bark at all, will often bark at the rabbits, hard to train out a few thousand years of instinct.

[cofi]

Obviously, one neighbor was driven to the point of vigilantism. I'm not saying the dogs deserved to be killed, but dogs are usually an example of their owners training or lack of. Could this incident be handled differently? Yes of course it should have been handled legally. Since there is a police record of the dogs barking it is very possible the owners were talked to by concerned neighbors regarding the barking dog issue before authorities were involved. I myself have heard of this occurring in my lifetime. Definitely not in a urban environment though. Think what you want of me, I don't care one bit. But I guarantee the people that didn't do this crime that live in the neighborhood are all glad they don't have to endure the noise. Not that they would admit it. I love my dog and the dogs I've had before her. But the phrase "Dogs are people too" just pisses me off. As much as we love and care for our dogs they're still just animals, not humans.

so you think its ok to kill other peoples dogs because they annoy you?

[Gman]

The Castle Rock area like most of the bottled up neighborhoods have rabbits everywhere. Most dogs that rarely bark at all, will often bark at the rabbits, hard to train out a few thousand years of instinct.
Then have some consideration for your neighbors and bring the dogs inside....or be an inconsiderate asshat and see what happens. The dogs are the owners RESPONSIBILITY.

[clworth22]

so you think its ok to kill other peoples dogs because they annoy you?
I never said that.

[clworth22]

Have consideration for your neighbors. Train your dogs, pay attention to your dogs. But there will always be that one neighbor that is a complete asshole.

[Kraven251]

Then have some consideration for your neighbors and bring the dogs inside....or be an inconsiderate asshat and see what happens. The dogs are the owners RESPONSIBILITY.

right, but these folks let them out so they can shit, and then back in they go ...which is what the scenario was with these dogs that were shot. If they stayed outside all day and night barking their ass off I would have issues, but if they make a cumulative 30 minutes of noise a day that I might hear if I was near the window closest to their yard, not sure I'd give a shit.

[wreave]

It's hard to condone shooting the dogs, but it's completely understandable. Four nuisance complaints over the barking dogs. The owners obviously didn't care about their dogs or their neighbors.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but I understand people being pushed to point where they snap.

[Gman]

right, but these folks let them out so they can shit, and then back in they go ...which is what the scenario was with these dogs that were shot.No, the owner admitted to the police that the dogs were out for an hour before they checked on them. It was likely that it wasn't just an hour. Your scenario is what should have happened to them.

If you've seen the burden of proof that's put on complainants in Douglas County, you'd understand that this problem was significant and ongoing.

[theGinsue]

Castle Rock couple wonders if their 2 dogs were killed because of their barking

If they have to even ask that question, they've already got their answer.

I do not prescribe to harming of animals (I'm a hunter, not an animal rights freak), but unfortunately the system tends to fail neighbors of nuisance animals more often than not. I've got 3 neighbors with adjoining fences where the dogs (at least one yard has multiple dogs) "fight" each other through the fence. Their "fighting" is nothing more than barking and scraping against the fence, but once one starts barking, they all start barking. This goes on for hours sometimes at all hours of the day or night. It's loud and I hear it easily inside my home. Frankly, it bothers the shit out of me, esp. when I have to turn the volume up on my tv to compensate for it. The dogs are just being dogs, but the owners don't give one shit about the effects their animals are having on others in the area. I haven't (won't) confront them and at this point I don't intend to call animal control to complain either as the animals would ultimately pay the price, not the homeowner. But, it does piss me off.

[TheGrey]

The breed of the dogs says something about this scenario. Maltese and toy poodles are companion dogs, not guard dogs. They're indoor animals. At best, when they're let outside to play or whatnot, you need to keep an eye on them because coyotes, owls or other predators are attracted to them. It's a sad thing that someone took it upon themselves to shoot them, but there's no proof that the people that complained did the shooting. I doubt they did, actually- they're the ones that followed the law and lodged complaints. Now that the crime has been committed, they're suddenly in the spotlight. I suspect someone else shot the dogs; lots of punks in Castle Rock. The fact that there were complaints against the owners and that they were due in court the following week makes me think these people didn't know how to properly care for the dogs.

Ankle-biters are noisy, and notoriously hard to train unless you know what you're doing and actually take the time to do it right. I hope they don't replace the dogs with more noisy little yappers to annoy their neighbors again.

[DavieD55]

That is pretty F999ed up! Hope they catch the whoever is responsible.

[DavieD55]

It's hard to condone shooting the dogs, but it's completely understandable. Four nuisance complaints over the barking dogs. The owners obviously didn't care about their dogs or their neighbors.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but I understand people being pushed to point where they snap.


It is not completely understandable in my view...Could be that the neighbors in this story are complete sh!theads too. Look at where society is going. You dont shoot your neighbors dogs because the barking annoys you, That is BS.

[rondog]

I've read that a lot of dogs bark a lot because they're hungry, have no water, or are lonely. Dogs are social and need/crave a pack or family to "belong" to and associate with. They need attention to be content. Dogs that are kept alone outside all the time or, God forbid, tied up to something, they're gonna bark all the time. Our Beagles have their own doggie door so they can come and go, and they're as content as can be.

Our Coco (avatar photo) likes to bay at people and other dogs she sees on the sidewalk or hiking trail, but only because she wants them to come visit and play.

[hatidua]

It's hard to condone shooting the dogs, but it's completely understandable.

Can I apply that logic to my neighbors screaming children? pretty please?!

[cofi]

It's hard to condone shooting the dogs, but it's completely understandable. Four nuisance complaints over the barking dogs. The owners obviously didn't care about their dogs or their neighbors.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but I understand people being pushed to point where they snap.

if a barking dog can push you to the point you gotta grab your gun and go kill something you dont have enough self control to own a firearm

[Gman]

Yet you're obviously assuming that the neighbors did it. Can't anyone wait long enough for the facts to come out?

[Clint45]

How the fuck do you not hear gun shots in your BACKYARD.

Sounds like a high powered air rifle . . . or maybe a .22 rifle loaded with powderless Colibri.

[Ashton]

Yet you're obviously assuming that the neighbors did it. Can't anyone wait long enough for the facts to come out?

Who else did it? The UPS guy driving by?

[Gman]

Could have been punk kids shooting out street lights with an air rifle. Thing is...nobody here knows.

[TFOGGER]

I was ready to go split the head of my shithead drunk of a neighbor a couple of nights ago. Had I not still been recovering from my motorcycle wreck, I probably would have. This jackass will get tanked up, let's his poor dog out late at night, then passes out on the couch before letting the dog back in. The dog gets cold, and barks to be let in. For hours. I first noticed the dog barking at about 23:45, called it in to Aurora PD (this is the fourth or fifth time he's done this and I've had to call it in to the PD over the last 3 years) at about 03:30. I totally blame the owner, as the dog rarely barks otherwise.

[HBARleatherneck]

Who else did it? The UPS guy driving by?


drone?

[brokenscout]

I think it was a Vet(Iraqi) that did it[Coffee].. Owners were about to get in trouble for their dogs then they end up dead? Fishy

[Danimal]

I see a lot of people on here that say that it was wrong to kill the dogs. The people renting the house next door to mine have 3 beagles, a lab, a boxer puppy, 3 chickens and some pot belly Pigs. I have called LE no less than ten times to report their animals being noisy (and I mean incredibly loud) and they have yet to receive a citation. They see the police out their window and call the dogs in, then they do not allow the police into their yard because they have an illegal (well legal now) grow operation going on. They are always on the lookout for cops, and they cannot issue a ticket without witnessing the animals making the noise. There is nothing that I can do to stop it, I just have to sit here while they bark all day and all night. I cannot do anything in the backyard because the dogs bark the whole time loud enough to where a normal conversation is not happening.

With that said I would not shoot the dogs because that is a dumb thing to get in trouble for. I try to reason with the neighbors, and for the most part they make a half ass attempt to help me out and keep the dogs in the house while I have company, but when I bought the house I had no idea the neighbors that would be moving in shortly after. It is the owners fault that the dogs are annoying the hell out of all of the neighbors, but as you can see they just didn't get it. How many citations do they need before they fix the problem? Now they get it.

[BushMasterBoy]

I heard of some people just poison the dogs. Shooting is much more humane, but I don't condone any such illegal behavior. WTF is wrong with pet owners?

[Gman]

Now they get it.
I wouldn't go that far. They may just get some new dogs and repeat the process, like my neighbors.

You can't fix stupid.

[rockhound]

dogs will bark, there is no excuse for not training your pet as well as you can. Dog owners know when their dog is being a a problem. And they know when their neighbors have had enough. Then they are surprised when someone takes it out on the pet. If you are not at least trying to restrain your pets actions then you are also partly to blame.

I am not condoning shooting the dog, but i have honestly had neighbor dogs that I have considered shooting. Never followed through only because of my general good nature, but man the owners have no respect for others

[HBARleatherneck]

they werent shot

http://www.9news.com/news/article/313692/339/Necropsy-shows-dogs-killed-by-animal

moral of the story is shut your dogs up.

and

even wild animals hate barking dogs.

[muddywings]

they werent shot

http://www.9news.com/news/article/313692/339/Necropsy-shows-dogs-killed-by-animal

moral of the story is shut your dogs up.

and

even wild animals hate barking dogs.


EPIC WIN FOR KARMA!!!
barking dogs get put down AND no issues for neighbors who probably wanted to put that thing down themselves!!

[Gman]

Thanks for the follow-up. They cared so much for their pets that they couldn't even hear them being killed in the yard. [facepalm]

It's no wonder the neighbors had a problem. I really couldn't see it being the neighbors as it was so close to the court date. A resolution to the problem was soon at hand.

[SAnd]

There were reports of a neighbor was earier seen walking a dog that had a remarkable resemblence to coyote.

[Coffee]

[kidicarus13]

moral of the story is shut your dogs up.

and

even wild animals hate barking dogs.

Thank you

and

[ROFL2]

[Ronin13]

I'll weigh in on this, because I've had an experience relating to barking dogs. We've had JCSO called on our dogs before (mostly due to us sitting for my cousin and her dog barks if the wind blows). We all work, can't be home 100% of the time, and can't just lock the dogs inside all day (I know, our fault we are lazy and don't want to clean up animal droppings inside our house). So our neighbor called to report our dogs. HOWEVER, the people across the street actually treat their dogs pretty poorly (not my place to call them in or anything like that) and these dogs consistently are barking and howling ever damn morning, but no calls on them?... so who's the asshole? We try to keep our dog from barking, but he's protective and we can't always stop him before he gets out into the yard and barks... but we try. I will tell you this- dogs bark, sometimes people can't be home all the time, and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it- so if you're a sick fvck that harms a dog because it's barking you deserve the same level of harm to befall you by the law of karma- maybe said sick fvck will have a can of paint fall on their head or something.

[Dave_L]

^What Ronin said. I've got 2 dogs. They're pretty chill but when they hear stuff, they go investigate and yes, bark. 90% of the time, they have a reason. Maybe they hear another dog on the other side of the fence, maybe they hear a loud noise, etc. One time, one of them started barking at me and I couldn't figure out why until I looked outside and the other dog was chewing up his food bowl in the yard. Lol. Little narc...Me and the GF can't be home all day. We have work, school, etc. We have a pen set up in the garage with a doggy door to the outside. I can't help things when I'm not at home. If I'm home, I'll make sure they keep it under control. If a neighbor shot one of my dogs, I'd be very, very unhappy. I would find out who did it and press full charges. I'm sure that person would also have an unfortunate series of flat tires...all 4 of them, every day until they moved. Ive lived by people that let their dogs bark non-stop at all hours of the night/morning. It's annoying but I dealt with it. Takes a sad individual to hurt someone's pet.

[Ronin13]

^What Ronin said. I've got 2 dogs. They're pretty chill but when they hear stuff, they go investigate and yes, bark. 90% of the time, they have a reason. Maybe they hear another dog on the other side of the fence, maybe they hear a loud noise, etc. One time, one of them started barking at me and I couldn't figure out why until I looked outside and the other dog was chewing up his food bowl in the yard. Lol. Little narc...Me and the GF can't be home all day. We have work, school, etc. We have a pen set up in the garage with a doggy door to the outside. I can't help things when I'm not at home. If I'm home, I'll make sure they keep it under control. If a neighbor shot one of my dogs, I'd be very, very unhappy. I would find out who did it and press full charges. I'm sure that person would also have an unfortunate series of flat tires...all 4 of them, every day until they moved. Ive lived by people that let their dogs bark non-stop at all hours of the night/morning. It's annoying but I dealt with it. Takes a sad individual to hurt someone's pet.
Exactly... in a case like that where the dog keeps barking, escalate legally- first confront the owners (unlike our d-bag neighbor who just went straight to the Sheriff's Dept.), if that doesn't work, call animal control or the PD. If still nothing, continue to file complaints until the law does something about it. There is no excuse to harm an animal simply because it's barking.

[Aloha_Shooter]

they werent shot

http://www.9news.com/news/article/313692/339/Necropsy-shows-dogs-killed-by-animal

moral of the story is shut your dogs up.

and

even wild animals hate barking dogs.

I would think the moral of the story is to wait until you get the facts before shooting off your yap. [Coffee]

[Aloha_Shooter]

I see a lot of people on here that say that it was wrong to kill the dogs. The people renting the house next door to mine have 3 beagles, a lab, a boxer puppy, 3 chickens and some pot belly Pigs. I have called LE no less than ten times to report their animals being noisy (and I mean incredibly loud) and they have yet to receive a citation. They see the police out their window and call the dogs in, then they do not allow the police into their yard because they have an illegal (well legal now) grow operation going on. They are always on the lookout for cops, and they cannot issue a ticket without witnessing the animals making the noise. There is nothing that I can do to stop it, I just have to sit here while they bark all day and all night. I cannot do anything in the backyard because the dogs bark the whole time loud enough to where a normal conversation is not happening.

Have you talked to the PD about maybe sending someone over in plainclothes? Or would they take surveillance camera footage? You could always put a web camera on your house that just happened to overlook their dogs or maybe videotape yourself taking practice swings with golf club or baseball bat as all the dogs are barking?

[Gman]

I would think the moral of the story is to wait until you get the facts before shooting off your yap. [Coffee]
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
-John Adams