Contemplating a MAJOR LIFE CHANGE

[Bailey Guns]

I'm really disappointed in the way the future of living in Colorado is shaping up. I always thought I'd grow old and die in the home where we live but now I'm not so sure. Even my wife, who isn't motivated much by politics, sees the writing on the wall and is growing more and more frustrated by living in a soon-to-be solid blue state.

So, we're seriously contemplating moving to Idaho. As an experienced and highly educated RN with various certifications I have no doubt she can find a good job pretty much anywhere we go. Idaho is a member of the nursing compact (not sure what it's called) so licensing for her in Idaho won't be an issue. I don't have a clue what I would do for employment. Maybe just kick back and enjoy the fruits of marrying well. :)

We're open to pretty much any area of the state but I think I'm leaning to the west side, basically from Boise north to Bonner's Ferry. I've done a lot of research over the past week or so and it appears the cost of living is SUBSTANTIALLY lower in ID than CO on average (12th lowest cost of living of all 50 states). I can't believe how inexpensive nice homes on 10, 20 or even 40 acres are. I also like the idea of living in a state with more moderate winters (in much of the state, anyway) and with a land area about 17% less than Colorado with about 1/3 the population of Colorado. On the whole it seems like a great place to live out our lives.

If you have any insight into living in Idaho, nicer areas, etc...please chime in. In particular I'd be interested to know how much it costs to register vehicles. I've read that it varies by jurisdiction.

The only negative aspect I can see is that Idaho scored 2 points (out of a possible 100) in the Brady rankings. I was hoping for zero but no place is perfect. On the other hand, there hasn't been a democrat-controlled legislature since like 1954-ish.

[SNAFU]

Sister lives in Sand Point,,,way back,,10 acres.
Yellow Jackets,&,flies only bad part.
They're not far from Backcountry Solar either.

[ruthabagah]

Just my 10 cents: I used to work in Boise 1 week every 5 weeks from 2005 - 2007 and the locals were complaining about the "Californication" of their state..... Lots of land where purchased by californians, who will then complain about hunters and shooting range nearby.... Typical.

[twitchyfinger]

I envy you if you do it Carl! I almost did it myself but chose to stay closer to family and stayed in state which I might end up regretting. There is a bunch of info in the survival section here but I do remember I site that had these stats posted.

Idaho

Population: 1.3 million (and about 2.1 million cattle.)
Population Density: 15.5 per square mile (Rank 15 of JWR’s top 19 states).
Area: 83,437 square miles (rank 13 of 50).
Average car insurance cost: $608/yr. (rank 48 of 50).
Average home insurance cost: $326/yr. (rank 50 of 50).
Average Home Price in Clearwater County: $112,725
Average Home Price in Idaho County: $109,500
Average Home Price in Kootenai County: $112,849
Average Home Price in Latah County: $118,325 (skewed because of the large number of 120+ acre farms and ranches)
Crime Safety Ranking: 9 of 50.
Boston T. Party’s State Firearms Laws Ranking: 97%.
Per capita income: $23,727 (rank 41 of 50).
ACT & SAT Scores Ranking: 15 of 50.

Plusses: Low Very low crime rate. (For example, it ranks second from the bottom in car thefts of the 50 states.) Low property taxes. Inexpensive building permits. Minimally intrusive government. Inexpensive car registration ($20 to $50 per year, plus a one-time-only $15 plate fee.) Low car insurance rates. Low health insurance rates. Extremely low home insurance rates. (An average of $326 per year. Ranks #50 in the country!) The most wilderness area in any of the 48 Continental United States. (Only Alaska has more.) 21.6 million forested acres. Minimal gun laws. Class 3 guns (machineguns short barreled rifles and shotguns, and suppressors) are legal to own after the $200 Federal tax and background check. Open carry of handguns is legal and fairly commonplace. CCW (http://www.survivalblog.com/glossary.html#CCW) permits must be issued unless someone has a prior criminal record. (“Non-discretionary.”) No CCW permit is required for concealed carry outside of city limits. Vehicular carry of loaded guns is legal and very common. Automatic knives are legal to own and carry. Minimally regulated home schooling. Low population density. Low elevation portions of the state have a fairly mild climate. Hunting and fishing are excellent in many parts of the state, so there will be no shortage of protein WTSHTF. High ratio of horse ownership, so I anticipate that transportation will be available in the event of a long term TEOTWAWKI. By 2025, Idaho is projected to be the 40th most populous with 1.7 million people. (It is currently the 39th most populous state.) Affordable property: The median home price for all of Idaho is $105,403. One useful web site: Idaho Department of Commerce Community Profiles (http://community.idaho.gov/Profiles/tabid/440/Default.aspx).

Minuses: Has a relatively high state income tax. Sadly, 63.7% of Idaho’s lands are owned by federal government. (Mostly National Forest and BLM (http://www.survivalblog.com/glossary.html#BLM) land.) But at least that provides a "really big back yard" for hunting and cutting firewood. Cold winters at the higher elevations. (Look for property in the low river valleys if you can’t stand snow!) Low wages compared to most coastal states.
JWR’s Combined Retreat Potential Ranking: 1 of 19. (JWR’s top choice!)

Link: http://www.survivalblog.com/retreatareas.html

Some interesting properties can also be found here:

http://www.survivalrealty.com/united-states/idaho/

[jgang]

About 10 years ago, my wife and I agreed to settle in Ft Fun after I retire. I'm as Mountain West as they come (WY native, rancher, die-hard outdoorsman, etc.) and I'm having second thoughts myself. I have a very close friend who retires this fall and they've just bought a place in northern Idaho after extensive research. I can put you in touch with them if you like. I think bought somewhere in the neighborhood of Coeur d'Alene.

[MED]

I'm really disappointed in the way the future of living in Colorado is shaping up. I always thought I'd grow old and die in the home where we live but now I'm not so sure. Even my wife, who isn't motivated much by politics, sees the writing on the wall and is growing more and more frustrated by living in a soon-to-be solid blue state.

So, we're seriously contemplating moving to Idaho. As an experienced and highly educated RN with various certifications I have no doubt she can find a good job pretty much anywhere we go. Idaho is a member of the nursing compact (not sure what it's called) so licensing for her in Idaho won't be an issue. I don't have a clue what I would do for employment. Maybe just kick back and enjoy the fruits of marrying well. :)

We're open to pretty much any area of the state but I think I'm leaning to the west side, basically from Boise north to Bonner's Ferry. I've done a lot of research over the past week or so and it appears the cost of living is SUBSTANTIALLY lower in ID than CO on average (12th lowest cost of living of all 50 states). I can't believe how inexpensive nice homes on 10, 20 or even 40 acres are. I also like the idea of living in a state with more moderate winters (in much of the state, anyway) and with a land area about 17% less than Colorado with about 1/3 the population of Colorado. On the whole it seems like a great place to live out our lives.

If you have any insight into living in Idaho, nicer areas, etc...please chime in. In particular I'd be interested to know how much it costs to register vehicles. I've read that it varies by jurisdiction.

The only negative aspect I can see is that Idaho scored 2 points (out of a possible 100) in the Brady rankings. I was hoping for zero but no place is perfect. On the other hand, there hasn't been a democrat-controlled legislature since like 1954-ish.

I completely understand; I thought I would spend the next 20 years in my home. I had so many plans for this place, but I will leave after my son is done with high school. I have five more years in Colorado and I am gone; I absolutely hate what was done to this place by all the ****ing transplants and their idiotic ideas!

[rockhound]

we love the bear lake area

[Zundfolge]

My wife and I moved out here to Colorado Springs from Wichita Kansas back in aught-two. Boise was a city we looked at before settling here and frankly the main reasons that the Springs won out is because the mountains here are prettier and its "only" an 8.5hr drive back to ICT to visit family.

As things are going, we're thinking about Idaho again.

[hollohas]

Boise is nice but getting overcrowded. I much prefer the northern part of the state. The area in and around Sandpoint is great. I little more mountain feeling. Post Falls is a nice little growing town not too far from either the larger city of Spokane and the very nice resort town of Coeur d' Alene.

But if you can find work somewhere in the middle of the state you will mostly have the place to yourself, not a whole lot of population through there.

[ChadAmberg]

Water and air quality rankings are also MUCH lower in Idaho than here if that's a problem for you.

My wife is also keeping an eye out on properties in Idaho and other free states. Can't move right now, but it's something we have considered also.

[jackthewall81]

I am leaving. But to the south. Idaho is beautiful and would be a great place to live.

[Aloha_Shooter]

<sigh> ... and of course the departure of reasonable folks will just make the liberalization of Colorado all-the-more inevitable and extreme. [Rant1]

[baglock1]

I have a couple of friends who live in Moscow (south of Coeur d'Alene). One has lived there for ~15 years. The other just moved there last year after getting out of the military (but grew up in Idaho). If you're interested, I can forward any specific questions you have over to them.

[Dave]

Been thinking about moving to Wyoming after the youngest graduates in two years. Never gave Idaho much thought until now.

[Bailey Guns]

About 10 years ago, my wife and I agreed to settle in Ft Fun after I retire. I'm as Mountain West as they come (WY native, rancher, die-hard outdoorsman, etc.) and I'm having second thoughts myself. I have a very close friend who retires this fall and they've just bought a place in northern Idaho after extensive research. I can put you in touch with them if you like. I think bought somewhere in the neighborhood of Coeur d'Alene.


I have a couple of friends who live in Moscow (south of Coeur d'Alene). One has lived there for ~15 years. The other just moved there last year after getting out of the military (but grew up in Idaho). If you're interested, I can forward any specific questions you have over to them.

I'm not quite at that point yet...but I'll keep the offers in mind. If I can get all my loose ends tied up I might be ready to go by the end of the summer. Then the search for a new home will move into high gear.

[jackthewall81]

Been thinking about moving to Wyoming after the youngest graduates in two years. Never gave Idaho much thought until now.
Montana would be my choice if I moved north.

[KestrelBike]

Just my 10 cents: I used to work in Boise 1 week every 5 weeks from 2005 - 2007 and the locals were complaining about the "Californication" of their state..... Lots of land where purchased by californians, who will then complain about hunters and shooting range nearby.... Typical.

It's a curse being from CA in terms of being associated with the liberals. The first thing I did when I moved here was get my plates changed and a CO drivers license so I could get my CCW and start purchasing firearms I've always wanted that were "illegal" in CA. I sometimes feel like there's resentment when I tell people that I've moved from CA but I really don't blame them. It was a dream of mine to leave CA and move here to CO for half a decade before I finally did. It's going to sound really f'ing corny, but to paraphrase Dances with Wolves, "I wanted to see America before it was all gone". California is truly not America anymore. Immigration from down South and Politics from Up North have absolutely ruined it. I really don't give a F anymore about accusations of racism when I mention the immigration stuff anymore, because all I need to do is point out what a s***hole mexico is as a country, and then point out that all the people moving up north from there are A) at poverty level and uneducated and B) bring the gov. dependence with them C) combine all of those, and it's a recipe for crime creation from the poverty. They're not here to be Americans, they don't give a shit about American tradition (if they did they'd fly American flags from their used-car dealerships, not Mexican flags, and yes I've seen it with my own eyes), they're here to escape Mexico and vote their prejudices.

I hear stories of how CO used to be and I can compare to how I see it now, and if I was a Native I'd be plenty damned pissed. I can tell you that it's definitely going to get worse, too. My GF's sister and BIL want to move to CO as soon as they can to raise their new family, and even though they're from the midwest, they've been working in CA for the past few years up in San Francisco (where they fit in PERFECTLY). It's really ironic because they want to move to CO from CA because of the problems that decades of democrat-politics and policies have done to the state, and now they're going to move to CO to do their part to mess it up, too. It's honestly a big issue between my GF and me.

I work in Denver, and it feels just like Southern California, if not worse. After Aurora and Sandyhook and people were (are?) afraid that a Colorado-AWB was going into affect, I really felt like I was in the Twilight Zone because I spent a lot of time and money to escape that crap in CA and here it is happening all over again. Right now with the economy it's difficult to command a good wage that lends itself to saving, but I've thought that if I get the money or if I can get the work-skills to support myself, I'd move to ID or MT or WY, and not just because I read Patriots and that's the best place to survive TEOTWAWKI or some fantasy, but because it's hopefully the last place to be swallowed by the hordes of ignorant entitle-lists. Unfortunately, CO is as rustic/rural/sparsely-populated as my GF is willing to get and one day I'm going to have to make a choice.

Shit what a depressing thread.

[hollohas]

Montana would be my choice if I moved north.

Ditto.

[USAFGopherMike]

My wife is from the Springs originally and a bunch of her family is still there. Her Dad is way right, loves to shoot, rides a Harley, spent some time in the Army, and hates libs.... especially Obutthead. Her brother and his wife are cool, but they're big gay libs that drink the koolaid. As long as we're drunk and/or watching sports, we get along. She and her father always talk about how CO used to be before all the criminals, illegals and transplants moved in. I wish I could've seen it. I'm originally from the burbs of Chicago (not something I'm proud of from a political standpoint) but our neighborhood was very conservative. The military brought me to CO and I love it. Rather than have good people move from a beautiful state, we need a grass roots conservative movement to push out the hippies, illegals, and liberal agenda touting politicians.

[Ah Pook]

My limited time in Boise was pretty boring. There was lots of stuff outside of town for the outdoor oriented. Not much in the way of food options and local micro brews. The terrain reminds me of WY. This was back in '95, so things could have changed.

There is still a Mormon presence in the southern half of the state. The land prices and lack of crowds is definitely a plus. Sounds like the Kali infestation is everywhere.

If a well stocked town doesn't blow your dress up, this might be a good area.

[BlasterBob]

I'm originally from the burbs of Chicago (not something I'm proud of from a political standpoint) but our neighborhood was very conservative.

We moved to CO from the Chicago burbs too, back in 1995. Wanted to get away from the HIGH crime rate, stupid firearms restrictions ,HIGH humidity, damn HIGH cost of living, crowded streets etc., etc., etc.... We found Trinidad to be a really a nice, slow paced little burg so that's where we decided to retire to. Back then, it was still very common to see many folks in this town still wearing cowboy hats, rifles in the back window rack of pick ups and even an occasional horse rider right in town. Back then, we'd meet folks on the sidewalk in town and they greet us with a "Hi, how yawl doing"... None of that anymore. But, it's still a hell of a lot better than being back in Naperville, IL. [blaster]
I feel that the entire State of Illinois is a pile of [pileoshit] .......

[motorep]

We're thinking along the same lines. but Montana is probably going to be the final destination.

[Dryfli]

I am on the same page and have plans to move out of state as well. This isn't the same state I grew up in,it's almost to the point that its embarrassing to say I'm from colorado. Idaho is beautiful and the people are very friendly and almost no traffic. I have a lot of family around the Idaho falls area and its a outdoorsman paridise. We are defiantly looking in the area of western Wyoming (north of I-80) SE Idaho or central utah. I travel a lot with work, drove a pick up 57000 + miles last year and as long as I'm in the areas I listed I can live anywhere and still keep my same job. I can't see this state getting better any time soon and most of the people I talk to that are like minded have asperations if not plans to leave this state. I'm 11 months and counting down....

[HoneyBadger]

How do Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana compare? Politics? economy? climate?

Anyone with any firsthand knowledge or experience, please chime in!

[XC700116]

I lived in Livingston, MT for a short time and I can tell you, Montana is getting infested at a faster rate than CO, but thankfully it's in smaller pockets as there isn't any real big cities in the state. But yes it is getting nearly as bad as CO and it's all West coast liberals from CA, OR, and WA metropolis type areas. Bozeman, Helena, and Missoula are the targeted areas for the libtard invasion, ie all the best areas to live of course and they are all getting very expensive to live in (real estate wise)

UT is very much like ID, Very conservative, outdoorsman's paradise, ect.

WY is much the same with the exception of the Jackson area which is overrun with rich libtards. There's also a very contentious good ole boy network in the conservative side of things and they have a ton of back room dealing to screw over the little guy. But overall seems to be really good.

As for me, if I can ever pull it off, I'm shooting for ID too. It's been a dream of mine for a long time, but I will have to completely change my profession or at least the company in order to do it and it's not going to be easy to pull off at this point in my life. I've also considered just selling EVERYTHING but a few of my guns, my truck and trailer and some personal possessions to get 100% debt free and have a few bucks in my pocket, and just bailing and see what I can find up there.

[Dryfli]

All are conservative, last I heard Wyoming had negative unemployment. Winters can suck in all of the above but I've never run into traffic in any of those states like we have here. Also generally speaking more friendly people except Gillette wy....

[Ridge]

Quitter

[jhood001]

My aunt and uncle are up in Orofino. They moved up from New Mexico. 10 acres. Built a cabin on it and they haven't looked back. Their one and only complaint is the lack of sunshine in the summer. It is constantly over-cast there like it is in the midwest.

Also, my aunt is a nurse there as well. She does the traveling nurse gig out of state for a few months out of the year. I'm not sure if it is because pay there is low or because she just wants to earn more. I can ask her.

[wARmachine15]

I moved here in 2000 from St Louis. Did it for the outdoors and to get away from the insane crime. Now I'm trying to get to Texas. Mostly because I know no Californian will ever want to live there. Hell, even going back to St Louis sounds good to me these days.

Go for it man.

[BlasterBob]

Forty years ago, we lived in Amarillo. Wonder what it's like now???????

[JMBD2112]

Funny cause me and my soon to be wife were having the same talk, we're not going to raise our son anywhere near the denver area....I'm from southeast Tennessee and there's been talk of us moving back east.

[T-Jet]

Been planning on moving for some time now. The way the states gone for the last couple of years has only cemented our decision. Probably Wisconsin is what is shaping up for now.

[dwalker460]

I absolutely want to move back to the South, TN/GA I think.

[beast556]

+1 me and the wife have been talking about moving to another state also. We moved out here from Commieforina 3 years ago and we were so happy to be free. It seems like every dumb shit liberal and peice of shit From CA/NY/IL/MA, and every other liberal state are moving here to Colorado and fucking thing up.

To answer OP question My Dads best friend lives in Idaho and I have been there a few times. Every one owns guns and for the most part seem like good people. It is Cold as shit in the winter no matter what. Tons of outdoor stuff to do especially if you like fishing, seemed like every person I talked to and met was BIG time in to fishing. My dads friend would get pissed when he went to go get in the truck and the door was locked, no one locks there doors up there. Last time I talked to my dads friend he was having a very hard time finding a job and had to move to Bosie to get work.

[jackthewall81]

I absolutely want to move back to the South, TN/GA I think.
Tennessee, Georgia, or South Carolina for me.

[battle_sight_zero]

Have to agree with Bailey. My ancestors who settled Colorado in th 1860s must be rolling in their graves as Colorado turns blue. This 5th gen native is also thinking about moving to Wyoming or Idaho once I can file my 30 year state retirement in 5 years. I never I thought the day would come that being someone like me who leans right, a veteran, owns firearms, serves his community, speaks his mind would be thought of as a loon, a criminal , white trash you name it by the majority of this state. Personaly I don't have a problem with gay marriage, or pot smoking but I find it utterly disturbing that our local government wants to reward illegals with reduced college tution and other perks. This state has gone insane.

[palepainter]

I moved here 6 years ago from AZ. I sometimes think it was a mistake. We home school our daughter, I live in farm country. Everyone around me is conservative minded. I am here to stay, to fight the good fight with them and others who refuse to give in.


Idaho is one beautiful state! I have traveled a good portion of it on my bike in early 2000.

[loveski]

I'd pick UT over ID.. There is more to do in UT (as crazy as that sounds). The skiing is better, the shooting is better.. I lived in SLC and could drive 45min in any direction and be on free public land to shoot. It was a paradise. The people are nice (conservative) and it's clean.

[streetglideok]

We came from oklahoma(it went all red during the '08 and '12 elections) in 2010. Down here, its pretty conservative, though there are a few libtards in the area(manitou comes to mind). Seems they almost always drive subarus. I turned down a job at an independent repair shop in denver, partially due to what a chest beating libtard the owner was, and that he demanded I live in Denver. He was almost beating himself off over hickenlooper during the interview. We see the leaning motion to the left by the retards around denver too, and are afraid of what may run thru the pipeline. If we move, sadly it'll probably be back to sooner land, as she has family land down there. Shes an RN as well, so finding work for her is easy, but for me, though work can be found anywhere, the larger towns is where the money is made. I wish I could convince everyone wanting to bail, to stay, so we dont lose this state, but the retards are flocking here.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'd pick UT over ID.. There is more to do in UT (as crazy as that sounds). The skiing is better, the shooting is better.. I lived in SLC and could drive 45min in any direction and be on free public land to shoot. It was a paradise. The people are nice (conservative) and it's clean.

beast556 and i have been talking about UT also. wy is too fukin cold for me at this point in life. southern Ut perhaps, always open to suggestions. The spouse said a month ago, "it's time to leave this liberal shit hole" guess i'll keep her

[battle_sight_zero]

We came from oklahoma(it went all red during the '08 and '12 elections) in 2010. Down here, its pretty conservative, though there are a few libtards in the area(manitou comes to mind). Seems they almost always drive subarus. I turned down a job at an independent repair shop in denver, partially due to what a chest beating libtard the owner was, and that he demanded I live in Denver. He was almost beating himself off over hickenlooper during the interview. We see the leaning motion to the left by the retards around denver too, and are afraid of what may run thru the pipeline. If we move, sadly it'll probably be back to sooner land, as she has family land down there. Shes an RN as well, so finding work for her is easy, but for me, though work can be found anywhere, the larger towns is where the money is made. I wish I could convince everyone wanting to bail, to stay, so we dont lose this state, but the retards are flocking here.


The rejects are flocking here even more with the pot and other left incentives/ enticements. I have to stay for a few more years and I will fight while I am still here. Heck maybe something will happen that is pretty darn good regarding my side.

[gnihcraes]

I know some folks that packed up a few years ago and moved to Idaho. They love it the last I talked to them. Was seriously tired of the type of people moving into Colorado. One reason for their move too, Idaho was very GUN friendly.

[Bailey Guns]

UT is on the list as well...southern UT. I could deal with that, I think. But ID just seems very appealing. I'm gonna take a week and visit up there this spring.

[BPTactical]

Carl, I feel your dillema.
After NY went nutballs on their regulations I posed a statement to the wifey: "North or South"?
Wyoming or Texas?
She said South but said she didnt want to go to Texas.
I have seriously been looking into retiring a couple of years early, cashing out a bit of my retirement and buying some property in NW Texas, maybe Amarillo area.
Property dollars go pretty far, climate similar to Grand Junction.
If the wife doesnt want to go, it looks like I go alone......

As a Colorado native I am disapointed in my state, I never thought Bruce and Jeffy could get married, sit around and smoke dope all day but a firearms owner would be a demon......

[jhood001]

If the wife doesnt want to go, it looks like I go alone......

But... but... WHO GETS THE CAT!?!?!

[Beprepared]

My wife is also a nurse and our five year plan includes either northern Idaho, eastern Oklahoma, or somewhere Texas. I'm in school for health care and need to be in proximity to a hospital. Lewiston, ID is the top of the list so far (never been there), only down side I can see is that it's a college town.

[Goodburbon]

I've been wondering where to go as well. Back to Louisiana? The wife hates humidity.
Wyoming?
Idaho?
Montana?
Alaska?
My job will allow me to live just about anywhere.


It's a shame, I really do enjoy living here.

[Gman]

We've been kicking this around for a couple of years. My folks are retired in WA and I wouldn't mind moving back to TX. At least TX has their own power grid and long growing seasons. A lot of defense contractors in TX. Austin is booming for the Tech industry. My sister's family is currently stationed in San Antonio and I lived there for a few years. Couldn't stand the humidity in the Houston area.

[BPTactical]

But... but... WHO GETS THE CAT!?!?!

We have 4, it will be complicated but there goes my hook up on the gourmet catfood......I will have to go the StagLefty route and go with the cheap stuff I guess[Bang]

[buffalobo]

We have have been kicking around ideas about Wyoming for a couple years. Northeastern part of the state no less.[werdo] Would never have to worry about being too crowded.[Beer] There are a few reasons it is not crowded now.

[Ashton]

North Dakota in the summers. Montana in the winters. or if you stick around here Vail in the winter and just Colorado in the summers. Marrying well or just being privileged has it's upsides....

[Ashton]

I just realized I didn't provide any reasons in my post.

North Dakota summer = In basmarsck not cold, they have a river, everyone is friendly. They also have the best diamond cutters in the world. So it's basically a really rich Boulder with more polite people who aren't fucking hippies and know how to have a good time and spend their money. No one drives a subaru.

Metropolitan Montana is pretty fucking shitty. Montana? Is nice. Not a lot of people. It's Montana though...

[Great-Kazoo]

I just realized I didn't provide any reasons in my post.

North Dakota summer = In basmarsck not cold, they have a river, everyone is friendly. They also have the best diamond cutters in the world. So it's basically a really rich Boulder with more polite people who aren't fucking hippies and know how to have a good time and spend their money. No one drives a subaru.

Metropolitan Montana is pretty fucking shitty. Montana? Is nice. Not a lot of people. It's Montana though...


And like MinneSoda they have mosquito's big enough to fuk a turkey on all 4's.

Montana is slowly dealing with the oil & gas industry. like ND what was once a $45K home & land is now $300K

[Byte Stryke]

its crazy to hear Georgians refer to Colorado as a Blue state...

Commie-rado...

damned shame really...

[Ronin13]

its crazy to hear Georgians refer to Colorado as a Blue state...

Commie-rado...

damned shame really...
Ok, now that's not good... if we have a rep in GA about being blue you know we've fallen too far. And here I thought it was bad enough my TX friends were giving me hell about choosing to live in a blue state!
It's too bad I'm in process to get on the Sheriff's Dept, otherwise I'd been contemplating moving to MT, WY, or ID... Some real nice, inexpensive property in Bozeman.

[jackthewall81]

Ok, now that's not good... if we have a rep in GA about being blue you know we've fallen too far. And here I thought it was bad enough my TX friends were giving me hell about choosing to live in a blue state!
It's too bad I'm in process to get on the Sheriff's Dept, otherwise I'd been contemplating moving to MT, WY, or ID... Some real nice, inexpensive property in Bozeman.
We have voted blue the past 8 years. That'll do it.

[Wulf202]

Im going back to wa in a few years.

If you get to pick your place consider the lewiston - clarckston area. Lots of water terrain and or has no sales tax so going across the river for big grocery runs cuts costs that much more

[MuzzleFlash]

We moved to CO from the Chicago burbs too, back in 1995. Wanted to get away from the HIGH crime rate, stupid firearms restrictions ,HIGH humidity, damn HIGH cost of living, crowded streets etc., etc., etc.... We found Trinidad to be a really a nice, slow paced little burg so that's where we decided to retire to. Back then, it was still very common to see many folks in this town still wearing cowboy hats, rifles in the back window rack of pick ups and even an occasional horse rider right in town. Back then, we'd meet folks on the sidewalk in town and they greet us with a "Hi, how yawl doing"... None of that anymore. But, it's still a hell of a lot better than being back in Naperville, IL. [blaster]
I feel that the entire State of Illinois is a pile of [pileoshit] .......+1 on that worthless state. I remember the illegals taking over Aurora, IL back in the mid 80's. Little did I believe back then that it could go nation wide. I grew up in Nebraska and took a job out of college in Naperville working for Bell Labs. I loved the job, hated the place. Left and moved here in 86 in the middle of the big oil bust. The state was actually shrinking then. Prices were low and we were able to afford owning a house. I just loved Colorado back then and was so happy to start a family here. Today, I live in a small island of conservatives in western Arvada but it's changing too. Jeffco used to be solidly red but no more. Colorado is being Californicated. I'm in the same boat as KestrelBike, my wife of 34 years isn't a gun nut and is not exactly happy about moving out of state when my son goes off to college. If we leave, he'll be stuck with out-of-state tuition. We should just declare him an illegal alien. Sigh.

[Ronin13]

We have voted blue the past 8 years. That'll do it.
Yep, seeing how Denver hosted the DNC in '08 I have been slowly falling out of love with this state... Shame- I was born and raised here and the dirty d-bag libtarded hippies are running me out of my home. [Mad]

[Jer]

I moved here in 2000 from St Louis. Did it for the outdoors and to get away from the insane crime. Now I'm trying to get to Texas. Mostly because I know no Californian will ever want to live there. Hell, even going back to St Louis sounds good to me these days.

Go for it man.

Been to Austin lately?

[bogie]

You can only beat a birth rate with a birth rate. All you fellas quit your postin and get 'a humpin.

I moved here from a swing state and thought '$hit, i'm in another freaking swing state'. Now it appears to be pretty much blue. We're considering a move within 2 years. Maybe back east again. We're thinking TN or western NC. It's a damn shame that we even have to talk about it.

[loveski]

Just saw that Obama's approval rating is lowest in UT of all 50 states.. only 26%.. Next is Wyoming with 28%. Idaho is number 5 with 31% approval, So you'd be among like-minded people.

[10mm-man]

I just want to say; You need to man up and "FIGHT" for the future of Colorado! What are you going to do when it spreads to Idaho? The way i see it, this liberal thinking is like a disease and unless we "JOIN TOGETHER" and fight it, we are always going to be running! My $.02 either way i wish the best for you and your family!

[Bailey Guns]

I just want to say; You need to man up and "FIGHT" for the future of Colorado! What are you going to do when it spreads to Idaho? The way i see it, this liberal thinking is like a disease and unless we "JOIN TOGETHER" and fight it, we are always going to be running! My $.02 either way i wish the best for you and your family!

I figured someone would come along and say something stupid. Congratulations.

[Danimal]

You join a long list of friends and family to leave CO for ID or MT. It is worth it, and if things were a little different for me right now I would already be moving up there myself.

[blacklabel]

You join a long list of friends and family to leave CO for ID or MT. It is worth it, and if things were a little different for me right now I would already be moving up there myself.

My wife's family is in Montana so it's on the short list of places to move to soon. I just wish we were in a place to do it now.

[10mm-man]

I figured someone would come along and say something stupid. Congratulations.


Don't let the door hit ya!

[Bailey Guns]

http://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Danimal http://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.ar-15.co/showthread.php?p=899071#post899071)

You join a long list of friends and family to leave CO for ID or MT. It is worth it, and if things were a little different for me right now I would already be moving up there myself.




My wife's family is in Montana so it's on the short list of places to move to soon. I just wish we were in a place to do it now.

Apparently you two and your friends and family need to "man up", too.

[blacklabel]

Apparently you two and your friends and family need to "man up", too.

I knew someone was going to post something along those lines eventually. Ignore the haters Bailey.

[Beprepared]

beast556 and i have been talking about UT also. wy is too fukin cold for me at this point in life. southern Ut perhaps, always open to suggestions. The spouse said a month ago, "it's time to leave this liberal shit hole" guess i'll keep her

Have some friends in the St. George area; watching the sun set on Zion never gets old. I really liked the land in between Zion and Brice.