CBS RUNS SEGMENT CALLED 'LET'S GIVE UP ON THE CONSTITUTION'

[jhood001]

I am furious and have no words.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/01/27/CBS-Runs-Segment-Calle-Lets-Give-Up-On-The-Constitution

[jackthewall81]

I have no proper wording for how much this scares and pisses me off.

[sellersm]

To use this man's logic, then, we should repeal all "old" laws, legislation, etc. that he doesn't like! So, if we remove the Constitution and it's supporting documents, does he have a right to be on national TV spewing this garbage?

It's an example of the logical end of pragmatism. To be clear, this kind of logic is present in many facets of daily life, politics, gubment and society today, and it's a very slippery slope...

[loveski]

Early on he says it doesn't matter if BHO was born in the US, even though it's in the constitution... Then at the end he says "we would not allow the French or the UK to rule us" No kidding. That's why the constitution says a pres must be born in the US! We don't want to be controlled by foreign countries. There is no use. These people can't even go 3 min without contradicting themselves.

[Kraven251]

Go for it. Toss it out on its ear. We will very rapidly cease to be the United States. Alaska and Hawaii would pretty quickly say fuck you and self govern. Texas, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, pretty sure they would part ways with the new America. Without the Constitution binding them to the Union they'd bail and continue to be fairly self sufficient. The military would be a giant clusterfuck, and general laws, provisions, and expectations would change drastically.

If they go that route, the country many of you fought for, our ancestors, friends, and family fought and died for is simply gone. What remains will be carved up like a Christmas turkey as power struggles develop and a fight for resources goes critical mass.

[Rooskibar03]

I saw it this morning and about lost it. This guy claims to be a professor of constitution and talks like this?

I know when I remodel a home I always tear up the foundation first. You don't like the constitution? Fine 2/3 of the House, 2/3 of the Senate, and 3/4 of the states and you can make changes. Until you have those then shut the fuck up.

[Irving]

I don't think it is as radical of an idea as you guys make it out to be.

[StagLefty]

I was watching that program when he was on and couldn't believe what I was hearing.

[Irving]

I don't think it is as radical of an idea as you guys make it out to be.

Let me clarify, as I guess it depends on who you are. If YOU GUYS threw out the Constitution, the one you'd come up with to replace it would be much the same.

[jhood001]

Let me clarify, as I guess it depends on who you are. If YOU GUYS threw out the Constitution, the one you'd come up with to replace it would be much the same.

And what kind of alternative do you suppose those that are in a position to possibly revise or rewrite it would do?

I am in love with that document because of its intent to guarantee freedoms to a guy like myself. I increasingly find that those that wish to revise it are primarily interested in extending their freedoms at the expense of my own.

[TS12000]

Fuck that clown. And then I started reading the comments....argggghh this country is gone

[Irving]

The Constitution does not grant anything. It talks about the rights that people are born with. Were you bestowed those rights after the publication of the Constitution, or were those rights used to write the Constitution?

If they threw the Constitution out tomorrow, I'd still know what my rights are, and live my life accordingly. Would you guys do anything differently?

[russian]

Sounds like USSR dissolution in 1991. I experience this once before, it was no fun. I remember same BS on TV before it happened. Hope this will never happen to this country.

[jhood001]

The Constitution does not grant anything. It talks about the rights that people are born with. Were you bestowed those rights after the publication of the Constitution, or were those rights used to write the Constitution?

If they threw the Constitution out tomorrow, I'd still know what my rights are, and live my life accordingly. Would you guys do anything differently?

You're comparing your God given rights as you understand them to those that your government affords you. Interesting take and it makes for interesting discussion.


If they threw the Constitution out tomorrow, I'd still know what my rights are, and live my life accordingly.

And you would probably live a week before a government that isn't bound by law comes to eradicate you and the life you want to live the moment your beliefs and its interests conflict.

[Irving]

And you would probably live a week before a government that isn't bound by law comes to eradicate you and the life you want to live the moment your beliefs and its interests conflict.

Isn't that how we got here (America) in the first place? Otherwise, I agree.

[jhood001]

Isn't that how we got here (America) in the first place? Otherwise, I agree.

Absolutely. And again, the point you are making is incredibly valid.

Common knowledge and understanding is the only thing that binds us. Run a campaign of public education long enough and it becomes something that binds all of us behaviorally. Those Mr. Yuck stickers for example. When was the last time you saw one of those? Regardless of their current presence in our lives, we all know what that sticker means when we pick up a bottle of fluid that looks like Kool-Aid and that sticker is present.

Our constitution is a 200+ year old public education campaign that binds us together against the poison of tyranny. We can remove the poison sticker from our government, but a lot of intellectually young are going to die when they take a drink. I'd rather them, being potential allies, know what that sticker means before they have to take a drink and die because of trial by fire.

[sniper7]

I thought the direct democracy comments were amusing. most people pretty much tore that guy a new one!

[Gman]

The Constitution puts limits on government. The government has thrown out the Constitution long ago.

[Dave]

[fail]

[Sawin]

Go for it. Toss it out on its ear. We will very rapidly cease to be the United States. Alaska and Hawaii would pretty quickly say fuck you and self govern. Texas, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, pretty sure they would part ways with the new America. Without the Constitution binding them to the Union they'd bail and continue to be fairly self sufficient. The military would be a giant clusterfuck, and general laws, provisions, and expectations would change drastically.

If they go that route, the country many of you fought for, our ancestors, friends, and family fought and died for is simply gone. What remains will be carved up like a Christmas turkey as power struggles develop and a fight for resources goes critical mass.

Yep. It would result in the definition of SHTF. Why does it seem the left is set on causing social distress and eventual unrest? I just don't get it?!?!

[mosinnagant577]

Absolutely sickening

[buffalobo]

Another step on the path...

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[Singlestack]

Yep. It would result in the definition of SHTF. Why does it seem the left is set on causing social distress and eventual unrest? I just don't get it?!?!

I believe the far left has an agenda of stirring the pot as much as possible right now, with the goal of raising tensions throughout our culture. On one hand, they empower others on the loony left to speak up with even more outrageous crap (like the recent leftist who said last week more of less "what if abortion is murder"?). On the other hand, they anger and cause fear among those who disagree with them. Some will be intimidated to just be quiet and hope it goes away. Some will be inspired to legal activism. Some (they hope) will be inspired to illegal activism, which the state can brutally put down and perhaps overreach along the way. I do believe there is a strong effort by some to permanently give the left tyrannical power over the rest of the country. I have no idea where it leads ultimately, but fear for the worst...

[Melvin]

What are we told is the correct way to deal with bullies? (I don't want to hear the progressive solution offered) I am talking about what did your parents tell you about dealing with bullies? Anyone who says "Talk to them" I got news for you. You were spawned by a lib.
The reason that these assholes spew this stuff is that they know from experience that the very people who will get pissed off about it are too cowardly to lift a finger. They talk indignantly about it and that is it. Imagine if George Washington had told his guys lets go talk to the poms about this? We already know how well talking worked for Chamberlain.
But here is the problem as to why nobody will lift a finger. Because history shows us that if a brave soul does take a stand, before the lib enemy can say "BOO!" about his actions, the cowards on his side of the aisle will beat them to the punch decrying his actions, selling him out and lamenting how he is bringing negative attention. You only have to watch the comments from all the usual suspects around here every time some guy decides to open carry in public.
It is the same mentality that hamstrings our fighting men in the middle of a war zone. The rules of engagement are dictated by people who are more worried about what the enemy's perception of them is than preserving the lives of their own men or even winning the conflict.

For those who read a lot here but refrain from comment, just sit back and watch the response this comment will receive if you doubt.

[Sawin]

I believe the far left has an agenda of stirring the pot as much as possible right now, with the goal of raising tensions throughout our culture. On one hand, they empower others on the loony left to speak up with even more outrageous crap (like the recent leftist who said last week more of less "what if abortion is murder"?). On the other hand, they anger and cause fear among those who disagree with them. Some will be intimidated to just be quiet and hope it goes away. Some will be inspired to legal activism. Some (they hope) will be inspired to illegal activism, which the state can brutally put down and perhaps overreach along the way. I do believe there is a strong effort by some to permanently give the left tyrannical power over the rest of the country. I have no idea where it leads ultimately, but fear for the worst...

So I think we need to call them out on it, repeatedly, and loudly and make a mockery of their BS. The trouble is the media as a whole, won't do it anymore. They used to keep elected officials accountable, and now they're nearly all cohorts.

[Ronin13]

What are we told is the correct way to deal with bullies? (I don't want to hear the progressive solution offered) I am talking about what did your parents tell you about dealing with bullies? Anyone who says "Talk to them" I got news for you. You were spawned by a lib.
The reason that these assholes spew this stuff is that they know from experience that the very people who will get pissed off about it are too cowardly to lift a finger. They talk indignantly about it and that is it. Imagine if George Washington had told his guys lets go talk to the poms about this? We already know how well talking worked for Chamberlain.
But here is the problem as to why nobody will lift a finger. Because history shows us that if a brave soul does take a stand, before the lib enemy can say "BOO!" about his actions, the cowards on his side of the aisle will beat them to the punch decrying his actions, selling him out and lamenting how he is bringing negative attention. You only have to watch the comments from all the usual suspects around here every time some guy decides to open carry in public.
It is the same mentality that hamstrings our fighting men in the middle of a war zone. The rules of engagement are dictated by people who are more worried about what the enemy's perception of them is than preserving the lives of their own men or even winning the conflict.

For those who read a lot here but refrain from comment, just sit back and watch the response this comment will receive if you doubt.
Quite true! I was always told that if a bully lays his hands on me he's fair game and I had every right to defend myself... I'll teach my kids the same lesson- Never throw the first punch, but as long as you don't start the fight, you better make sure you're the one to throw the last punch. Like you say, the only way to stop a bully is to show him that you're not the one to mess with. And I agree that it is folks from our side who are the first to demonize the one who stands up, and that's just not right. Sometimes doing the right thing isn't "right" in popular opinion. Look at popular opinion right now! Calling the media out on their bias is greatly ignored. Saying Obama and his administration are nothing but liars, and criminals is looked at as either "extreme rightist" or racist. It's a little to late to play nice, and I think hacks like the d-bag that says let's just give up on the Constitution need to be called out, put in the middle of the town square, and tarred and feathered publicly (figuratively speaking).

[Ghosty]

I don't agree with the guy, for many of the same reasons already listed in this thread by jhood001. But I AM curious what his stance exactly (and reasoning) on the 2A is, because he writes:


None of my friends can believe it, but I happen to be skeptical of most forms of gun control. I understand, though, that's not everyone's view, and I'm eager to talk with people who disagree.

And what show was that exactly? I can't watch it at work. Did many of you watch the entire clip?

[Irving]

During the interview with NPR he said that he really liked the Second Amendment and didn't agree with any of the gun control stuff.