Tinfoil Hats - "We Broke the NRA"

[BuffCyclist]

Okay, so long story short, the San Diego Police Chief says if Obama does his part and plays it right, we can disarm Americans within a generation.


San Diego Police Chief William Lansdowne is fully supportive of the Obama/Feinstein gun grab, and says if lawmakers play it right Americans can be completely disarmed within "a generation (http://www.washingtonguardian.com/top-cops-get-political-guns)."

Lansdowne has gone on record saying: "I could not be more supportive of the president for taking the position he has. I think it's courageous with the politics involved in this process. [And] I think it's going to eventually make the country safer."
He made it clear that it may take "a generation," but new laws could eventually take all guns off the streets.
This is quite a departure from other law enforcement personnel we've seen around the country--particularly Sheriffs--who've come out firmly against any infringement on the 2nd Amendment. We've cheered those officials for standing with the people, and now Lansdowne has taken a position completely opposite them.
Moreover, Lansdowne has also been slamming the NRA in interviews. And he seems overtly thrilled at the money the NRA is being forced to spend to get their message out in the wake of the crime at Sandy Hook Elementary. "We broke the NRA," says Lansdowne.
Breitbart News contacted Lansdowne's office about these statements but received no comment.


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/27/San-Diego-Police-Chief-If-Obama-Plays-It-Right-We-Can-Disarm-Americans-Within-A-Generation

Okay, so the tinfoil hat comes in here: The Newtown tragedy was really a government run operation and it was meant to stir emotions of all americans so they can finally introduce gun control legislation. The biggest part though, was to make the NRA spend themselves broke trying to counter every single argument/proposal made by politicians.

I know this isn't the first mention of Newtown being a government cover up, but this seems to make the most sense so far. Also, does anyone want to guess which police chief WONT be reelected?

[ChunkyMonkey]

In response to Chief Police William Lansdowne , many surveys align the majority of LEO with the following...


There is an excellent article on all this at PoliceOne.com, covering a hard-hitting presentation by Lt. Colonel Dave Grossman (http://www.policeone.com/active-shooter/articles/2058168-Lt-Col-Dave-Grossman-to-cops-The-enemy-is-denial/). Here's a particularly compelling excerpt from the article:

The challenge for law enforcement agencies and officers, then, is to overcome not only the attacks taking place in schools, but to first overcome the denial in the minds of mayors, city councils, school administrators, and parents. Grossman said that agencies and officers, although facing an uphill slog against the denial of the general public, must diligently work toward increasing understanding among the sheep that the wolves are coming for their children. Police officers must train and drill with teachers, not only so responding officers are intimately familiar with the facilities, but so that teachers know what they can do in the event of an attack.

"Come with me to the library at Columbine High School," Grossman said. "The teacher in the library at Columbine High School spent her professional lifetime preparing for a fire, and we can all agree if there had been a fire in that library, that teacher would have instinctively, reflexively known what to do.

"But the thing most likely to kill her kids -- the thing hundreds of times more likely to kill her kids, the teacher didn't have a clue what to do. She should have put those kids in the librarian's office but she didn't know that. So she did the worst thing possible -- she tried to secure her kids in an un-securable location. She told the kids to hide in the library -- a library that has plate glass windows for walls. It's an aquarium, it's a fish bowl. She told the kids to hide in a fishbowl. What did those killers see? They saw targets. They saw fish in a fish bowl."

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038391_gun_confiscation_executive_orders_cops.html #ixzz2JJl6GDMX

[Kraven251]

hmm, I think there is a Cyndi Lauper song about this...

[BuffCyclist]

Yea, and here's a police chief that REALLY gets it:


‘I NEED YOU IN THE GAME’: WIS. SHERIFF TELLS RESIDENTS TO LEARN HOW TO USE A GUN TO DEFEND THEMSELVES




Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke Jr. has a message for residents: learn how to use a gun.

With budget cutbacks putting a strain on law enforcement, simply calling 911 might not cut it in a life-or-death or situation, Clarke said in a new radio ad (http://county.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cntySheriff/Audio/MilwaukeeCountySheriffsOffice-1.mp3) this month. Safety is “no longer a spectator sport,” he says. “I need you in the game.”
“With officers laid off and furloughed, simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option,” Clark adds. “You can beg for mercy from a violent criminal, hide under the bed, or you can fight back. But are you prepared?”
“Consider taking a certified safety course in handling a firearm so you can defend yourself until we get there. You have a duty to protect yourself and your family. We’re partners now. Can I count on you?” he asks.
The spot has quickly earned criticism, including from the Milwaukee Deputy Sheriffs’ Association and Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett.
Milwaukee Deputy Sheriffs’ Association president Roy Felber told the Associated Press it sounds like a call to vigilantism, while Barrett’s spokeswoman said it sounded (http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/sheriff-clarke-urges-residents-to-arm-themselves-with-guns-o38h47h-188375091.html) like Clarke was “auditioning for the next Dirty Harry movie.”

But Clarke told the AP he simply wants people to know what their options are in protecting themselves.
“I’m not telling you to `Hey, pick up a gun and blast away,’” he said. “People need to know what they are doing if they chose that method – to defend themselves.”
He said self-defense may not be for everyone, but that people who want to know how should be trained properly. After budget cuts forced him to lay off 48 deputies last year, he realized he had an “untapped reserve” — the public.
“People are responsible to play a role in their own safety, with the help of law enforcement,” Clarke said. “I’m here to do my part, but we have fewer and fewer resources. We’re not omnipresent, and we have to stop giving people that impression.”

James Fendry, director of the Wisconsin Pro Gun Movement, praised the ad, telling Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/sheriff-clarke-urges-residents-to-arm-themselves-with-guns-o38h47h-188375091.html): “It’s never been a great option (calling 911). Unless you can take care of yourself, you’re kind of SOL.”

[buffalobo]

Surprise, surprise, another scumbag in public office.

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[jslo]

Aren't most police chiefs appointed though? Just following their Mayor's lead. Need to target the Mayors.

[Justin]

Okay, so the tinfoil hat comes in here: The Newtown tragedy was really a government run operation and it was meant to stir emotions of all americans so they can finally introduce gun control legislation. The biggest part though, was to make the NRA spend themselves broke trying to counter every single argument/proposal made by politicians.

I know this isn't the first mention of Newtown being a government cover up, but this seems to make the most sense so far. Also, does anyone want to guess which police chief WONT be reelected?


Let's pretend for a moment that Newtown might have been a government conspiracy in order to quickly force draconian gun control on the US.

If so, why would you schedule the shooting to happen on December 14th, the same day that the Senate adjourned for holiday? Were you trying to orchestrate a conspiracy to ram gun control through, you'd want the shooting to happen while the Senate is in session, not on the day when they're all flying home for a holiday break.

The Senate didn't reconvene until January 3rd, and even then they had several days of pomp and circumstance to get through before they could get down to the business of forcing gun control on a nation too dazed to do anything about it.

The simple fact of when the shooting occurred is a pretty authoritative argument against it being a pre-meditated conspiracy theory.

[Danimal]

It is not a matter of cover up or conspiracy, it is a matter of exploitation and using current events to skew public opinion and through emotion further political agendas. Now when the ban "assault weapons" then it is a waiting game before another shooting happens with a pistol. Then it will be ban pistols, and on and on until you reach where Great Britain is and you are banning knives but you still have over 3 times the violent crime rate of the US. It is incremental and it is strategic, but it is not a conspiracy. The plan is to demonize and bankrupt the NRA, and that is proving to be a harder task than they initially thought due to the millions of supporters. This is why it is so important to financially support the NRA. They may not do everything right, but they have the voice and the weight to do something and actually compete with the .gov at their own game. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

[Zundfolge]

As Thomas Sowell once said (I'm paraphrasing) "In a country of almost 350 Million people, someone is bound to do something crazy every once in a while".

The only "conspiracy" here is that all this gun control bushwah was already typed up and ready and waiting for the eventuality that someone would go all psycho and kill some children or nuns or something.

[BuffCyclist]

Let's pretend for a moment that Newtown might have been a government conspiracy in order to quickly force draconian gun control on the US.

If so, why would you schedule the shooting to happen on December 14th, the same day that the Senate adjourned for holiday? Were you trying to orchestrate a conspiracy to ram gun control through, you'd want the shooting to happen while the Senate is in session, not on the day when they're all flying home for a holiday break.

The Senate didn't reconvene until January 3rd, and even then they had several days of pomp and circumstance to get through before they could get down to the business of forcing gun control on a nation too dazed to do anything about it.

The simple fact of when the shooting occurred is a pretty authoritative argument against it being a pre-meditated conspiracy theory.

Unless thats exactly what they want you to think! [tinhat] Besides, they could get more support for bills if people are exposed to articles/news stories about the children that were killed in cold blood due to evil guns. It would give more time for people to consider it a real threat instead of just a knee-jerk reaction. Brazil just had that night club that burned down and killed hundreds of college students, but if it was a nursery convention and killed 300 babies, they would try to outlaw nursery conventions.

Part of this post was sarcasm, but the article just got me thinking about what if their entire plan was to bankrupt the NRA so they could ram these bills and gun control issues through with no resistance.

[BuffCyclist]

As Thomas Sowell once said (I'm paraphrasing) "In a country of almost 350 Million people, someone is bound to do something crazy every once in a while".

The only "conspiracy" here is that all this gun control bushwah was already typed up and ready and waiting for the eventuality that someone would go all psycho and kill some children or nuns or something.

Exactly, but politicians have all of their failed bills typed up and ready to go, they just wait until the opportune time to ram it through.

Its like sitting at work, waiting to ask for a raise until that one day comes when you land a huge contract (or whatever) that brings in tons of money for the company, then you submit your letter asking for a raise. You don't ask for a raise when you aren't performing or deserving of a raise. And if you ask all the time, they'll stop considering even thinking about giving you one because it comes across that you aren't happy with what you're currently paid but won't do anything to change your work ethic.

[Fmedges]

I grew up in San Diego and honestly I'm shocked that this police chief is not a Mexican. If you lived there then you know as I do the racial hate down there is out of control. If anybody needs guns, then it's down by the border there. Worst place ever.

[asmo]

Outspending the NRA would be fairly difficult.

[mrghost]

He also has personally advocated for a legislative solution that would allow current lawful firearms owners to keep their assault weapons if new sales are banned, but prohibit assault firearms from be passed down to living relatives after death, meaning the weapon would be destroyed when the current owner dies. - from full Washington Guardian article on Lansdowne's opinions.

I love San Diego, but this kind of anti-gun culture is one of the reasons I moved out of CA. I also think this guy's opinions are contrary to a significant number of the SD area population, which is actually fairly gun friendly (it's not San Francisco down there).

[SG1]

Okay, so long story short, the San Diego Police Chief says if Obama does his part and plays it right, we can disarm Americans within a generation.

[Mod removal]


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/27/San-Diego-Police-Chief-If-Obama-Plays-It-Right-We-Can-Disarm-Americans-Within-A-Generation

Okay, so the tinfoil hat comes in here: The Newtown tragedy was really a government run operation and it was meant to stir emotions of all americans so they can finally introduce gun control legislation. The biggest part though, was to make the NRA spend themselves broke trying to counter every single argument/proposal made by politicians.

I know this isn't the first mention of Newtown being a government cover up, but this seems to make the most sense so far. Also, does anyone want to guess which police chief WONT be reelected?