Status of gun industry...from Valley Guns in WV

[whitbaby]

Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 7:25 PM





Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia:



Status of gun industry

Attention F.B. fans: to follow will be several IMPORTANT Info updates about the status

of the gun industry currently, followed by an INVENTORY UPDATE: We traveled to

Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.

Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols.

They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.

RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.
Remington-Maxed out!
Armalite: Maxed out.
DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.
COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.
LWRC:Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get enough gun quality steel
to make barrels.
Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.
AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all
calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of
1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are
third in line.
MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.
RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo
FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things
get caught up.
Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned,
we'll keep you posted...
Related commentary from Bob Owens:
They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to
pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn’t come close to keeping up with
market demand. It wasn’t just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs
that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands,
M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-
Nagants—of which every gun store always seems to have 10-220—were gone.
So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone.
This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned.
This is a society preparing for war.
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Barack Obama, Dianne Feinstein and the rest of the Statists have done more to promote gun
ownership than the NRA

[bnred9]

Thank you for the update, 6-9 months before things get caught up rather sucks BGDD.

[robertcolorado2009]

Just sent this to all of our reps in Denver and DC

[hurley842002]

Status of ammo industry.....

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/02/je7ahynu.jpg

Sportsmans as of 10:30 this morning

[USAFGopherMike]

Jesus.. I need a shopping list. Just wrote to my Rep in Florida also.

[sellersm]

In those immortal words, "it's deja vu all over again!". [Coffee]

[wreave]

Status of ammo industry.....



Sportsmans as of 10:30 this morning

I did the Sportsman's Friday morning run once.

ONCE.

[lowbeyond]

[dig][panic]

[KestrelBike]

I just can't believe that there's no .22lr to be found.

[Drucker]

Yep, not alot of that going to Mil or LEO

[Danimal]

I did not compile this information, it was taken from a post on arfcom, so I can not speak to its authenticity. But here it is:

StagArms: Out. 2 year backordered. See here: "Currently we have approximately two years of backorders for rifles, upper halves, and lower receivers" (http://info.stagarms.com/)

S&W: Running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.

RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.

Remington: Maxed out!

Armalite: Maxed out. Asking customers and dealers to not call. See here: LINK (http://www.armalite.com/default.aspx)

DPMS: Can’t get enough parts to produce any more product. Parts are backordered 12-18 months. (See here: Back Ordered (http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/599363_DPMS_Lead_Time_for_New_Orders_.html))

COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by lack of bolt carrier’s.

LWRC: Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can’t get enough gun quality steel to make barrels. "Back Ordered 75,000 guns" (http://forum.lwrci.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=13268)

Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.

AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/over 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line.

MAGPUL: Behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon. Review here: LINK (http://gunssavelives.net/gear/magpul-pmag-backorders-allegedly-top-1-million-units-full-panic-buying-in-effect/#)

RELOADERS: ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra’s for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we’ll keep you posted... Related commentary from Bob Owens: They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers are running full-bore, but can’t come close to keeping up with market demand. It isn’t just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that are sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, and Enfield .303s are gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants—of which every gun store always seemed to have 10-20—are gone. So is their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I’ve never seen anything like it. Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years is gone.

[Fmedges]

repost

[HBARleatherneck]

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/86053-Status-of-gun-industry-from-Valley-Guns-in-WV?highlight=industry+update

[hatidua]

I just can't believe that there's no .22lr to be found.

.22 completely disappeared post'08 election as it has done this time, and as it will do after the next election.

[KestrelBike]

.22 completely disappeared post'08 election as it has done this time, and as it will do after the next election.

You're already predicting hillary's 8 :'( (I took the time to go back and lowercase the h in her name that autocorrect performed)

[cofi]

time to get back into cars for the rest of the year

[Skully]

.22 completely disappeared post'08 election as it has done this time, and as it will do after the next election.
Holdest thou tongue MARK.................do not curse us yet.


Is it time for all of us to pitch in and buy ourselves an island somewhere?

[zzzippper]

I cannot vouch for this but I believe it. This came in an email today:








Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia :

Status update
INVENTORY UPDATE:
We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings
concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.

Smith & Wesson:
Is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly
M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the
shortages.

RUGER:
Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH:
Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.

Remington:
Maxed out!

Armalite:
Maxed out.

DPMS:
Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.

COLT:
Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.

LWRC:
Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get
enough gun quality steel to make barrels.

Springfield Armory:
Only company who can meet demand but are running
30-45 days behind.

AMMO:
Every caliber is now Allocated!
We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months.
All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in
line.

MAGPUL:
Is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of
magpul anytime soon.

RELOADERS:
ALL Remington, Winchester , CCI & Federal primers are
going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes.... it
could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak
news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months.
Stay tuned,we'll keep you posted...

Related commentary from Bob Owens :
They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from
magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore,
but couldn’t come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn’t
just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that
were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era
M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every
last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants—of which every gun store always
seems to have 10-20—were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free
space marked their passing.
I’ve never seen anything like it.

Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years
was gone.

This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because
they fear they may be banned.
This is a society preparing for war.

Barack Obama, Dianne Feinstein and the rest of the Statists have done
more to promote gun ownership than the NRA ever did.

Well done,Democrats!

[zzzippper]

Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia :

Status update
INVENTORY UPDATE:
We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings
concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.

Smith & Wesson:
Is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly
M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the
shortages.

RUGER:
Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH:
Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.

Remington:
Maxed out!

Armalite:
Maxed out.

DPMS:
Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.

COLT:
Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.

LWRC:
Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get
enough gun quality steel to make barrels.

Springfield Armory:
Only company who can meet demand but are running
30-45 days behind.

AMMO:
Every caliber is now Allocated!
We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months.
All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in
line.

MAGPUL:
Is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of
magpul anytime soon.

RELOADERS:
ALL Remington, Winchester , CCI & Federal primers are
going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes.... it
could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak
news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months.
Stay tuned,we'll keep you posted...

Related commentary from Bob Owens :
They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from
magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore,
but couldn’t come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn’t
just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that
were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era
M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every
last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants—of which every gun store always
seems to have 10-20—were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free
space marked their passing.
I’ve never seen anything like it.

Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years
was gone.

This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because
they fear they may be banned.
This is a society preparing for war.

Barack Obama, Dianne Feinstein and the rest of the Statists have done
more to promote gun ownership than the NRA ever did.

Well done,Democrats!

[blacklabel]

I don't need to see the majority of the post to know this is a repost^4.

[muddywings]

here you go...but I'm pretty sure it's repost:


Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia :

Status update
INVENTORY UPDATE:
We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings
concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.

Smith & Wesson:
Is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly
M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the
shortages.

RUGER:
Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH:
Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.

Remington:
Maxed out!

Armalite:
Maxed out.

DPMS:
Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.

COLT:
Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.

LWRC:
Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get
enough gun quality steel to make barrels.

Springfield Armory:
Only company who can meet demand but are running
30-45 days behind.

AMMO:
Every caliber is now Allocated!
We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months.
All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in
line.

MAGPUL:
Is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of
magpul anytime soon.

RELOADERS:
ALL Remington, Winchester , CCI & Federal primers are
going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes.... it
could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak
news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months.
Stay tuned,we'll keep you posted...

Related commentary from Bob Owens :
They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from
magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore,
but couldn’t come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn’t
just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that
were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era
M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every
last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants—of which every gun store always
seems to have 10-20—were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free
space marked their passing.
I’ve never seen anything like it.

Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years
was gone.

This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because
they fear they may be banned.
This is a society preparing for war.

Barack Obama, Dianne Feinstein and the rest of the Statists have done
more to promote gun ownership than the NRA ever did.

Well done,Democrats!

[zzzippper]

It is, thanks. For some reason I can't cut and paste.

[MarkCO]

I've seen that about 5 times now, have been able to verify some of it is wrong...short answer, stop reposting, and yes, we are toast if we don't pressure the democrats under the Golden dome incessantly. I have so many paper cuts on my tongue I had to go to store to buy self sealing envelopes.

Send faxes, write letters, email too.

[HBARleatherneck]

to be fair, you would have to look all the way back to 8pm last night for the last repost. people please try. its not that difficult.

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/86053-Status-of-gun-industry-from-Valley-Guns-in-WV?p=940219#post940219

[ChunkyMonkey]

I wish people would actually use a proper title. Many if the repost could've been prevented.

[Great-Kazoo]

It is, thanks. For some reason I can't cut and paste.

OR USE A SEARCH FUNCTION from the looks of it. Going to go out on a limb here, since you have a low post count. FWIW: there is more than 1 page in each forum


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