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whitbaby
02-04-2013, 13:52
In today's Golden Newsletter, the following article was posted. I thought you'd like to know about this and help "broadcast this news" to the "opposition." Can we get a big group together for Tuesday's meeting?


MAUSER TO LEAD ANTI GUN VIOLENCE ACTION TUESDAY

From:Tom Mauser, Saturday, February 02, 2013
[Tom Mauser's son was killed at Columbine]
I'm writing to friends who live here in Jefferson County to make you aware of a great grassroots opportunity to speak out about the issue of gun violence. I'm inviting you to attend a County Commissioners meeting this coming Tuesday at 8:00 in Golden to let your voices be heard.
Jeffco County Commissioner Don Rosier (R) is introducing a resolution that "strongly urges" Congress and the Colorado legislature not to "entertain consideration of any new legislation that would infringe on the constitutionally protected rights under the Second Amendment through any means, including restrictions on lawful firearms and accessories; or on possession, use, sale or transfer of legitimately owned firearms."
In other words, like the NRA, he wants no new gun laws. Period. Lest there is any doubt about Mr. Rosier's beliefs, the resolution also cites the danger of a tyranny that will dominate a disarmed population and expresses that paranoid warning against United Nations treaties that would infringe on our Second Amendment rights--as if the U.N. can somehow do so. I could go on and on.
A similar resolution passed in El Paso County (Colorado Springs). We cannot let it happen here. We have GOT to speak up in opposition. Many in this country are calling for a conversation about gun laws. Don't we owe it to the many victims of these recent shootings to have one?!? We shouldn't allow gun activists to shut down the conversation before it even beguns in earnest. Even if you don't fully agree with me on the need for stronger gun laws, surely you'd agree we need to talk, not stifle the conversation.
This awful resolution is on the agenda for this coming Tuesday's County Commissioners meeting at the "Taj Majal" in Golden, on the first floor at 8:00 a.m. As of yesterday there were only two items on the agenda--their consent agenda (which should go quickly) and the resolution. I plan to be there and will ask to speak. I'm not asking you to speak up, only to SHOW up! I'd like to make a show of force of reasonable Jeffco residents who oppose this resolution, and will ask people to stand up at some point in a show of support. If you're able to get away, I'd really appreciate you being there. I'm sure Rosier will have some pro gun supporters there, so we need to outnumber them!
One group in Golden is likely to bring a number of people. Likewise, if you know of friends who might be interested in this event, please share this with them. However, be careful--please don't broadcast this news broadly--we don't want to inform opponents by accident and do something that stirs up gun activists and increases their numbers. A PR person will inform the media of the event but not well in advance--for the same reason.
I have no reason to think the resolution won't be on the agenda, but if something happens that changes the event (e.g., Rosier postpones the resolution after hearing that we'll be there in numbers), or if we need to inform you of anything else, I'll send you all an email Monday evening and ask that you pass it along to anyone you informed of the event.
I really think grassroots pressure can make a difference here.
[GAPS members will be there with badges you can pin on.]


The following was written to Judy Denison, who sends out The Golden Newsletter:

Judy -

I don't know how to respond to this, except to send my response to you. In your Golden Newsletter today Tom Mauser made the follow ludicrous statement:

However, be careful--please don't broadcast this news broadly--we don't want to inform opponents by accident and do something that stirs up gun activists and increases their numbers. A PR person will inform the media of the event but not well in advance--for the same reason.

While I sympathize with Mr. Mauser and his loss, this is not how things are done in a democratic society. You don't hide information so that someone with an opposing view won't be informed. Luckily, this article did inform this gun owner and I will try to be there to support this resolution. I wish that our society didn't have crazy people who abuse their rights and harm others, but limiting the rights of law-abiding citizens will do nothing to stop the crazies. Even Joe Biden has now conceded this. We need to move the focus away from the guns and try to find away to detect the potential for violent behavior in individuals before it occurs. Sadly, there will probably always be people who will find a way to do harm to others, but limiting my right to protect my home and family will only lead to more innocent people being harmed. I support Commissioner Rosier's resolution and I hope it passes. Thank you for "broadcasting this news broadly". I would not have know about this had I not read it in your newsletter. Maybe Mr. Mauser should have requested that you poll your readership on this issue to make sure you weren't broadcasting this news to the "opposition." I will sure try to be there on Tuesday to add to the increase in numbers of "gun activists". (A questionable and biased misnomer in my opinion. I'm not a "gun activist" - just a concerned gun owner who will stand to defend my right to protect myself and my family.)


God bless America!

Colorado_Outback
02-04-2013, 14:28
Just curious.. What do you consider appropriate attire for this event?

jtav
02-04-2013, 14:36
Just curious.. What do you consider appropriate attire for this event?

A wife beater and some cut offs........I mean no matter what you wear that is how you will be remembered, we are just a bunch of hicks clinging on to our guns right? I wish I could make it but i have a job and will be at work, as do most of us I assume.

Danimal
02-04-2013, 14:40
Hmmmm, I have the day off tomorrow...

whitbaby
02-04-2013, 15:08
Just curious.. What do you consider appropriate attire for this event?

I was expecting this...

You know how the liberal media seeks out the most irresponsible looking mouth-breathers for their sound/video bites thus insinuating these few individuals as typical of those supporting our side of the cause. We don't need this image, we have to appear as responsible as possible.

I'm not suggesting jackets and ties (I won't be wearing one)...just something where your mother wouldn't have to deny recognition.

Fmedges
02-04-2013, 15:15
No matter what you say they will find the person they are looking for. No matter how you dress, it's not going to change peoples mind. If I saw an occupy person in a suit I'd still want to punch them in the face.

hatidua
02-04-2013, 15:18
In your Golden Newsletter today Tom Mauser made the follow ludicrous statement:

However, be careful--please don't broadcast this news broadly--we don't want to inform opponents by accident and do something that stirs up gun activists and increases their numbers. A PR person will inform the media of the event but not well in advance--for the same reason.

Wow, that's fairly impressive....

whitbaby
02-04-2013, 15:20
No matter what you say they will find the person they are looking for. No matter how you dress, it's not going to change peoples mind. If I saw an occupy person in a suit I'd still want to punch them in the face.

Yeah, me too, just have to make sure the cameras aren't rolling.
Maybe I can distract the newsies while you punch 'em out.

[mop]

Great-Kazoo
02-04-2013, 17:54
In today's Golden Newsletter, the following article was posted. I thought you'd like to know about this and help "broadcast this news" to the "opposition." Can we get a big group together for Tuesday's meeting?


MAUSER TO LEAD ANTI GUN VIOLENCE ACTION TUESDAY

From:Tom Mauser, Saturday, February 02, 2013
[Tom Mauser's son was killed at Columbine]
I'm writing to friends who live here in Jefferson County to make you aware of a great grassroots opportunity to speak out about the issue of gun violence. I'm inviting you to attend a County Commissioners meeting this coming Tuesday at 8:00 in Golden to let your voices be heard.
Jeffco County Commissioner Don Rosier (R) is introducing a resolution that "strongly urges" Congress and the Colorado legislature not to "entertain consideration of any new legislation that would infringe on the constitutionally protected rights under the Second Amendment through any means, including restrictions on lawful firearms and accessories; or on possession, use, sale or transfer of legitimately owned firearms."
In other words, like the NRA, he wants no new gun laws. Period. Lest there is any doubt about Mr. Rosier's beliefs, the resolution also cites the danger of a tyranny that will dominate a disarmed population and expresses that paranoid warning against United Nations treaties that would infringe on our Second Amendment rights--as if the U.N. can somehow do so. I could go on and on.
A similar resolution passed in El Paso County (Colorado Springs). We cannot let it happen here. We have GOT to speak up in opposition. Many in this country are calling for a conversation about gun laws. Don't we owe it to the many victims of these recent shootings to have one?!? We shouldn't allow gun activists to shut down the conversation before it even beguns in earnest. Even if you don't fully agree with me on the need for stronger gun laws, surely you'd agree we need to talk, not stifle the conversation.
This awful resolution is on the agenda for this coming Tuesday's County Commissioners meeting at the "Taj Majal" in Golden, on the first floor at 8:00 a.m. As of yesterday there were only two items on the agenda--their consent agenda (which should go quickly) and the resolution. I plan to be there and will ask to speak. I'm not asking you to speak up, only to SHOW up! I'd like to make a show of force of reasonable Jeffco residents who oppose this resolution, and will ask people to stand up at some point in a show of support. If you're able to get away, I'd really appreciate you being there. I'm sure Rosier will have some pro gun supporters there, so we need to outnumber them!
One group in Golden is likely to bring a number of people. Likewise, if you know of friends who might be interested in this event, please share this with them. However, be careful--please don't broadcast this news broadly--we don't want to inform opponents by accident and do something that stirs up gun activists and increases their numbers. A PR person will inform the media of the event but not well in advance--for the same reason.
I have no reason to think the resolution won't be on the agenda, but if something happens that changes the event (e.g., Rosier postpones the resolution after hearing that we'll be there in numbers), or if we need to inform you of anything else, I'll send you all an email Monday evening and ask that you pass it along to anyone you informed of the event.
I really think grassroots pressure can make a difference here.
[GAPS members will be there with Big Yellow Stars you can pin on the gun owners.]


The following was written to Judy Denison, who sends out The Golden Newsletter:

Judy -

I don't know how to respond to this, except to send my response to you. In your Golden Newsletter today Tom Mauser made the follow ludicrous statement:

However, be careful--please don't broadcast this news broadly--we don't want to inform opponents by accident and do something that stirs up gun activists and increases their numbers. A PR person will inform the media of the event but not well in advance--for the same reason.

While I sympathize with Mr. Mauser and his loss, this is not how things are done in a democratic society. You don't hide information so that someone with an opposing view won't be informed. Luckily, this article did inform this gun owner and I will try to be there to support this resolution. I wish that our society didn't have crazy people who abuse their rights and harm others, but limiting the rights of law-abiding citizens will do nothing to stop the crazies. Even Joe Biden has now conceded this. We need to move the focus away from the guns and try to find away to detect the potential for violent behavior in individuals before it occurs. Sadly, there will probably always be people who will find a way to do harm to others, but limiting my right to protect my home and family will only lead to more innocent people being harmed. I support Commissioner Rosier's resolution and I hope it passes. Thank you for "broadcasting this news broadly". I would not have know about this had I not read it in your newsletter. Maybe Mr. Mauser should have requested that you poll your readership on this issue to make sure you weren't broadcasting this news to the "opposition." I will sure try to be there on Tuesday to add to the increase in numbers of "gun activists". (A questionable and biased misnomer in my opinion. I'm not a "gun activist" - just a concerned gun owner who will stand to defend my right to protect myself and my family.)


God bless America!

i thought his kids sneakers gave out after him beating to death (no pun intended) his AGENDA.

TheGrey
02-04-2013, 18:26
I have confidence that you will represent us well, folks! If I didn't have to work, I'd be there- even thought I'm not a Jeffco resident.

whitbaby
02-04-2013, 19:35
Just curious.. What do you consider appropriate attire for this event?

Uh, the distinguished looking gentlemen in your avatar would not be my first choice for an event like this.
Woodstock maybe, occupiers maybe...but not this. ;->

[facepalm]

whitbaby
02-04-2013, 19:37
i thought his kids sneakers gave out after him beating to death (no pun intended) his AGENDA.

Yeah, he's just been the compensated poster boy for the Brady Bunch since Columbine.
His son's death was indeed tragic but he's been exploiting it ever since.

sniper7
02-04-2013, 19:41
If I was home I would go in uniform. Everyone show up in what they wear to work. let them know (like fight club) that we are the people who make their food, transport them, stock their groceries, deliver their mail, clean up their streets, enforce their laws, teach their children.

Colorado_Outback
02-04-2013, 22:27
Uh, the distinguished looking gentlemen in your avatar would not be my first choice for an event like this.
Woodstock maybe, occupiers maybe...but not this. ;->

[facepalm]

It took you an extra 4 hours to think of that?

Again, just curious :)

Great-Kazoo
02-04-2013, 23:11
It took you an extra 4 hours to think of that?

Again, just curious :)

Took as long to get a pepperoni pizza delivered [LOL]

Colorado_Outback
02-04-2013, 23:22
[ROFL1]

Thank you Jim.

whitbaby
02-05-2013, 07:51
It took you an extra 4 hours to think of that?

Again, just curious :)

Yeah, I was away from the keyboard that long...picking out my Brooks Brothers wardrobe...I'm a slave to fashion.

;->

whitbaby
02-05-2013, 07:56
Mauser says:

"[GAPS members will be there with badges you can pin on.]"


I think we should all accept their badges...and wear them upside down.

;->

whitbaby
02-05-2013, 16:27
Hey I just heard the vote was held and was passed, without modification 2 to 1.!!

I sat through 3 hours of 'testimony' by concerned commenters and just couldn't last long enough to hear the commissioners consider alternatives.

I think some of our troops were there as some of the comments were much more substantive than the parroting whiners.

;->

The entire Resolution can be seen here:

http://www.nraila.org/media/10866553/jefferson_county_resolution_in_defense_of_2nd_amen dment_rights.pdf

I particularly like the inclusion telling our Congress to tell the U.N. Arms treaty sheeple and their ilk to F---Off!

.455_Hunter
02-05-2013, 16:31
Wow! Great news, especially since Jeffco is Perlmutter country.

BPTactical
02-05-2013, 16:57
Insert totally Awesome icon here.

whitbaby
02-05-2013, 17:10
Insert totally Awesome icon here.

20913

Pancho Villa
02-05-2013, 17:59
Sorry I couldn't make it. Always helps to have a little 'color' in the progun crowd...

That and I am sure Cora would have been fine tagging along, so we could chant THINK OF THE CHILDREN too.

MarkCO
02-05-2013, 18:04
So...what does it mean? Provided I never leave Jeffco, I can go search in the lake for my lost magazines and ARs.

muddywings
02-05-2013, 18:15
http://i.imgur.com/YZzrIkD.png

sniper7
02-05-2013, 20:32
who voted no?

mountainjenny
02-05-2013, 20:40
"Commissioner Casey Tighe, a Democrat who beat John Odom, Republican, in November's election, voted against the measure and introduced an "alternative" resolution he said allowed for future discussions about current and possibly future gun laws."

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22526844/jeffco-commissioners-pass-resolution-supporting-second-amendment

Bowtie
02-05-2013, 21:02
who voted no?

This is area is why Perlmuter won reelection. His area covers I-70 and golden south to Jewel.

whitbaby
02-06-2013, 10:53
"Commissioner Casey Tighe, a Democrat who beat John Odom, Republican, in November's election, voted against the measure and introduced an "alternative" resolution he said allowed for future discussions about current and possibly future gun laws."

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22526844/jeffco-commissioners-pass-resolution-supporting-second-amendment

The whole thing was kind of a CF...
The original Resolution, (9A) was what was to be voted upon after input from commenters.

Tighe proposed his own 9B Resolution at the eleventh-hour. Which was a watered-down version and left most everything open-ended for change.

No one had seen 9B before they walked into the room. I don't think it should even have been considered as it was untimely and not properly submitted.

In the spirit of transparency Chairman Rosier allowed it to be entered. Tighe explained his reasons for the alternative and differences from the original 9A.
In the ensuing discussion and in a conciliatory effort Faye Griffin was considering ways to incorporate a meld of the two. That's when I left.

http://jeffersonco.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=5&clip_id=1169&meta_id=27281

Another of Tighe's concerns was an attempt to use this as a vehicle to increase spending on mental health. Earlier he was wanting the mental health spending cuts to be reinstated and thought this was a way to do it.

(Too bad he didn't also propose spending for 'clairvoyance' to make absolute, no-fail use of it)
I have nothing against mental health spending, but to presume that it would have prevented all the shootings is naive.

Cthulhu
02-06-2013, 11:38
OUTSTANDING! We needed some good news. Now...let's keep up the pressure on the state officials. I'm more concerned that they'll do something stupid than the feds at this point. Not that we should underestimate the stupidity of the feds....

MuzzleFlash
02-06-2013, 11:39
I was there for the whole thing. I got there at 07:40 and was greeted by one of Mauser's minions who handed me some propaganda. I asked for another couple for friends that hadn't shown up yet. Then I walked over to the trash can and threw them away.

The pro-2A folks showed up in good numbers. We had a 5 to 1 advantage.

Apparently Commissioner Tighe is totally on-board with the Hickenlooper ruse that we "need to have a conversation" about violation of people's constitutional rights. Tighe apparently wasn't happy with the 9A resolution because it proposed that no laws be considered that would infringe on the second amendment rights of gun owners and that no laws be considered that would criminalize lawfully owned firearms. So he crafted his own watered down version that sung the praises of 2A but left the door wide open to eviscerate it in a "discussion" at the national and state level. Apparently, this is the new focus group tested mantra of the gun grabbers to package their incrementalism.

From my report to my mailing list:

The new talking points mantra is to pay lip service to the 2A and voice support for the Heller and McDonald Supreme Court decisions. Then immediately segue to your point that magazine and gun bans are perfectly "reasonable" under these decisions. So are limits on the number of guns and the amount of ammunition you can own. Basically, they can ban anything they want as long as they leave us a couple of cap guns to play with and somehow that's not infringement. I remind you that Obama has also said he agrees with these landmark SCOTUS decisions yet he appointed gun hating justices like Sotomayor and Kagen. Since their appointments, they have gone on record wanting to reverse these key civil rights decisions.