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Mtn.man
02-05-2013, 16:02
Legal experts expressed grave reservations Tuesday about an Obama administration memo concluding that the United States can order the killing of American citizens believed to be affiliated with al-Qaida — with one saying the White House was acting as “judge, jury and executioner

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/05/16855539-judge-jury-and-executioner-legal-experts-fear-implications-of-white-house-drone-memo?lite

Jesus-With-A-.45
02-05-2013, 17:01
Please ignore the man behind the curtain. Keep drinking your lattes, taking your prozac and worring about your hair.........we are in control.

Ronin13
02-05-2013, 17:10
I'm just curious- and I'm not in disagreement with the OP, but isn't this something Bush started? If a Republican was doing the same thing, would most on here feel the same way? Granted, I don't think Obeyme should have sole authority for this, there needs to be incontrovertible evidence that the person being targeted is in fact a terrorist, and there needs to be checks and balances- like the two man rule with SSBNs.

Byte Stryke
02-05-2013, 17:16
I'm just curious- and I'm not in disagreement with the OP, but isn't this something Bush started? If a Republican was doing the same thing, would most on here feel the same way? Granted, I don't think Obeyme should have sole authority for this, there needs to be incontrovertible evidence that the person being targeted is in fact a terrorist, and there needs to be checks and balances- like the two man rule with SSBNs.

are we really going to argue about which side of the turd smells more?

CO303
02-05-2013, 17:19
It's not restricted to Al-Qaida. It's terrorists.

Rucker61
02-05-2013, 17:22
It's not restricted to Al-Qaida. It's terrorists.

Then it wasn't Bush, or it would be "turrists".

merl
02-05-2013, 17:27
bush started bombing folks suspected of terrorism.
O was the first to use that process on Americans. Bush just threw em in solitary.
(thats how I recall it)

Dont worry it is just happening to the bad people, you know the terrorists... those crazy militias... those protesters.. :)

Ronin13
02-05-2013, 17:32
are we really going to argue about which side of the turd smells more?
No, I'm not advocating that- I was just asking...

DavieD55
02-05-2013, 17:42
This is a very dangerous slippery slope. People better wake up and be damn concerned about this.

Cthulhu
02-05-2013, 18:11
The John Warner Defense Appropriation Act ( (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._5122_(2006))H.R. 5122) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._5122_(2006)) is pretty scary too. At least H.R. 5122 was brought to a vote before Congress and not by Executive fiat in the form of a memo. We've been on a slippery slope for a long time unfortunately. It's gotten to the point that Berry doesn't even pretend to work within the system.

Gman
02-05-2013, 18:30
Our government is becoming a monster? That was predicted when it was founded. Why are people surprised?

Jackrabbit
02-05-2013, 18:57
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/04/16843014-exclusive-justice-department-memo-reveals-legal-case-for-drone-strikes-on-americans?lite

ANADRILL
02-05-2013, 19:01
Fbo

Fmedges
02-05-2013, 19:04
A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S.

Wow, sounds horrible.

SideShow Bob
02-05-2013, 19:08
Mtn Man beat you to it...................



http://www.ar-15.co/threads/86885-WTF-communism-socialism-or

CO303
02-05-2013, 19:10
Didn't DHS say most Vets were terrorists?

BushMasterBoy
02-05-2013, 20:13
Soon they will pack mini drones with high explosive and fly them into your head...


http://news.sky.com/story/1047004/mini-drones-army-deploys-tiny-helicopters

dwalker460
02-05-2013, 20:46
Sweet, so we get to return fire?

R&S
02-05-2013, 20:50
that is why the founding fathers put the 2nd amendment in, it a shame that more people in the US don't realize that.

Mtn.man
02-05-2013, 21:22
And for those here that think it is OK because they might be terrorists FUCK YOU.
This was America, but now it is not.
Government regardless of the letters D or R has gone to the extreme and it is time to read what the constitution said we have a tyrannical government.

Jackrabbit
02-05-2013, 21:54
The definitions are so loose, anyone could be a target.
This is a very bad thing.

HoneyBadger
02-05-2013, 22:37
So... do we get to have stinger missile launchers and missiles?

bryjcom
02-05-2013, 22:38
So... do we get to have stinger missile launchers and missiles?

Nope... We will have to "acquire" them by other means.

Or we can just say we are the Muslim Brotherhood and we'll get them for free.

Uberjager
02-05-2013, 22:43
God bless America!

dwalker460
02-05-2013, 22:52
Screw the shoulder fired missiles, I want to mount a pair of CIWS on the front porch and on the rear deck, and one in the bed of each truck. that way I can defend against drones AND the dark suit and sunglass gang

CIWS- http://www.bombshock.com/weapons_combat/firearms/phalanx-gatling-gun-ciws.html

theGinsue
02-06-2013, 00:17
Merged

Cthulhu
02-06-2013, 00:27
So... do we get to have stinger missile launchers and missiles?

If so, where do I sign up to get one? [pick-me]

I've never fired a stinger but I just KNOW I'd be good at it.

bryjcom
02-06-2013, 00:43
Funny how the slope has already been slipped

Uberjager
02-06-2013, 01:20
And for those here that think it is OK because they might be terrorists FUCK YOU.
This was America, but now it is not.
Government regardless of the letters D or R has gone to the extreme and it is time to read what the constitution said we have a tyrannical government.

It's definitely scary. Those who support anything close to it are neck deep in their own colon.

rockhound
02-06-2013, 08:15
Slope? What slope? I did not see any slope if they had drones at the time you can bet ruby ridge and the waco group would have been test subjects for their usefulness

scratchy
02-06-2013, 08:20
Rucker61: Then it wasn't Bush, or it would be "turrists".

Isn't killin turists illegal? (cue up caddyshack)