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Skully
02-09-2013, 18:41
So in talking with Patrick today, shooting the shit, I brought up the possibility of doing one of his group buys for maybe 300 BLK. He said it was possible but wanted some specs so he could find out the "possibilities."

Personally I think a lighter grain supersonic such as 110 grain Close tip? I am thinking special loads like V-max or Ballistic tip would be hard. I am not interested in a subsonic yet until I get a suppressor. Although for those that do chime in as well.

Everyone interested in a potential group guy for 300 BLK lets get a consensus, the more people who are interested, the more likely we good possibly get one put together. I put up a poll with 3 variable loads.

20X11
02-09-2013, 18:50
I would be interested in the 110gr supersonics. 110 or 115gr are perfect for plinking/practice/general range rounds. Besides, the new Nikon p-300 scope is designed for 115gr rounds on the supersonic side and I plan to own one of those soon.

Danimal
02-09-2013, 19:36
I might be interested depending on the price. I would be leaning toward the cheapest option possible as plinking ammo. I reload the accurate stuff.

Skully
02-09-2013, 19:39
I might be interested depending on the price. I would be leaning toward the cheapest option possible as plinking ammo. I reload the accurate stuff.

Yes what I was thinking of, a cheaper alternative to SHTF / Plinking stuff. Something along the lines of the 115 UMC stuff that you can not find anywhere. I have a bunch of 147 grain stuff but a little heavy for general use.

sabot_round
02-09-2013, 20:25
I might be interested depending on the price. I would be leaning toward the cheapest option possible as plinking ammo. I reload the accurate stuff.

Yeah me too!! I'm close to finishing my build and I like to get some cheap stuff to start with.

Hoser
02-09-2013, 22:15
Avoid the subs.

What runs 1050 fps in my SBR might be supersonic in a 16 inch gun or it might not cycle it or...

Stick a Sierra 125 MK or a Speer 125 TNT on top of a spoonful of powder and go.

They will run is most everybodys rifle.

bogie
02-10-2013, 00:01
Another vote for 110 to 125 grain cheap plinking stuff. I'd definitely split 1K with somebody else if this gets posted and might go in for 1K if I have the $$.

XC700116
02-10-2013, 00:08
I might be interested depending on the price. I would be leaning toward the cheapest option possible as plinking ammo. I reload the accurate stuff.

^^ This, if one come's up I'd be interested.

Cthulhu
02-10-2013, 01:35
In as long as it's 300 BLK. I can't find the stuff anywhere.

Skully
02-10-2013, 08:11
So far the concensus is showing people want "SHTF/Plinking" stuff, simple 110-115 grain supersonic.

As a reference I had bought some of that cheap UMC 115 CTBT/FMJ and had no issues with what I ran of it. Anyone got some load data for that 115 grain stuff? I can shoot to patrick and he could check to see the possibilities. This whole thing might be us barking up the wrong tree if Patrick cant get it anywho.

[Coffee]

20X11
02-10-2013, 09:02
yeah, the UMC 115gr 300blk ammo is pretty good stuff. Double struck brass (just like NATO spec), sealed primers, etc. I haven't seen anyone selling the 115gr CTFB projectiles, nor have I seen any load data for that projectile. Over the chronograph, the 115gr UMC gets an average of 2325 fps. Of course, that round was developed by Ron Silvers, who developed the 300blk guns for AAC. He also worked with Sierra to design the 125 gr (#2121) bullet specifically for the 300blk application and recommends an OAL of 2.22 for that projectile. Perhaps the group buy manufacturer can leverage some industry contacts to get us what we want/need?

Danimal
02-10-2013, 09:11
I run 125 and 208 grain bullets, but here is some stuff from 300blktalk. I have never tried any of these loads but they look like they are in line with all of the data that I have so far, and could find in other locations. If we can locate a cheap bullet option the rest is pretty easy.

16" SS, 1:8 5R
MagPul PMAG, 30RD
110 gr Hornady V-Max
19.6gr Hodgdon Lil'Gun
LC 5.56, reformed to 300BLK
CCI 450 Small Mag
2.10"
2350 FPS (estimated, manual)

16inch SS, 1 in 8
Magazine Brand/Size: 10 round GI metal
Bullet Used (grain, manufacturer, type):147 grain, GI FMJ BT pulls
Powder Charge and Brand: Lt’Gun, 15.0 grains
Case Used: REM, 300 AAC head stamped and re-formed LC brass
Primer Used: CCI 400
COAL: 2.160 inches
Chronograph Velocity: Average of 1870 FPS, 36 shots at 10 feet.

16inch SS, 1 in 8
Magazine Brand/Size: 10 round GI metal
Bullet Used (grain, manufacturer, type): 110 grain, Hornady V-Max
Powder Charge and Brand: Lt’Gun, 18.3 grains
Case Used: REM, 300 AAC head stamped and re-formed LC brass
Primer Used: CCI 400
COAL: 2.010 inches
Chronograph Velocity: Average of 2204.5 FPS, 43 shots at 10 feet.

16", 1:8 5R
MagPul PMAG, 30RD
110 gr Hornady V-Max
19.6gr Hodgdon Lil'Gun
LC 5.56, reformed to 300BLK
CCI 450 Small Mag
2.10"
2350 FPS (estimated, manual)

16inch SS, 1 in 8
Magazine Brand/Size: 10 round GI metal
Bullet Used (grain, manufacturer, type): 110 grain, Hornady V-Max
Powder Charge and Brand: H110, 19.0 grains
Case Used: REM, 300 AAC head stamped
Primer Used: CCI 400 and Rem factory primers
COAL: 2.000 inches
Chronograph Velocity: Average of 2302 FPS, 25 shots at 10 feet.

Teufelhund
02-10-2013, 20:15
In as long as it's 300 BLK. I can't find the stuff anywhere.

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