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bogie
02-10-2013, 13:34
Love 'em or hate 'em... This kicks @ss!


PHOENIX – The self-proclaimed "America's Toughest Sheriff" joined forces this weekend with action movie star Steven Seagal to train volunteer armed posse members to defend Phoenix-area schools against gunmen.
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced the controversial plan in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting that left 27 people dead, including the gunman and 20 first-graders.
The exercise took place Saturday at a closed school site in suburban Fountain Hills, outside Phoenix, where sheriff's SWAT members acted as shooters and teenagers played the part of students during mock scenarios involving up to three gunmen.
Seagal, best known for his roles in movies such as "Above the Law" and "Under Siege," planned to lead training on hand-to-hand defense tactics, among other techniques, drawing from his expertise in martial arts, according to a sheriff's office news release.
Arpaio's office didn't respond to requests for comment Friday and Saturday, and Seagal representatives also did not return telephone messages from The Associated Press.
When faced with criticism in January about the school posse plan, Arpaio snapped back, "Why would people complain about my posse being in front of schools to act as prevention?"
He boldly announced the plan on the grounds of an elementary school, saying at the time he wanted the patrols publicized.
"I want everyone to know about it for the deterrence effect," Arpaio said, adding that no taxpayer money would be spent on the patrols and volunteers will be supervised over the radio or telephone byar about the initiative.
"A lot of people sit around and watch these things happen, watch key signs and no one wants to do anything about it," she said when Arpaio announced the plan. "Nobody wants conflict, nobody wants to be out in the limelight. And he doesn't care. He wants to do the right thing."
Andrew Sanchez, however, a town council member in Guadalupe, said he wants nothing to do with posse members patrolling schools in his community, which spends about $1.2 million annually for Maricopa County sheriff's patrols.
"We are paying him to have certified deputies here, not to bring a circus and not to use our town as a political platform," Sanchez has said.
The volunteers, dressed in uniforms and driving patrol vehicles, some authorized to carry guns after training, won't go onto school grounds unless they spot danger, but will instead patrol around the facilities, Arpaio said.
Seagal is already a volunteer posse member in Maricopa County and has been deputized with sheriff's offices in New Mexico, Texas and Louisiana, where a film crew followed the actor on ride-alongs with Jefferson Parish sheriff's deputies for the reality TV show "Steven Seagal: Lawman."
Arpaio says other notable people also have joined his more than 3,000-strong volunteer armed posse, including "The Incredible Hulk" star Lou Ferrigno and actor Peter Lupus of TV's "Mission: Impossible."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/10/seagal-sheriff-train-arizonans-to-guard-schools/?test=latestnews#ixzz2KWheYAXM

CO Hugh
02-10-2013, 13:59
Right on, we need that in Colorado.

bogie
02-10-2013, 14:49
Right on, we need that in Colorado.

Who could we get?

I think Charlie Sheen lives in one of those mountain towns doesn't he? He knew how to handle his MP5 in "Navy Seals" and his M16 in "Platoon" and best of all his chicken arrows in "Hot Shots"

275RLTW
02-10-2013, 14:56
Just when you thought his acting couldn't get any worse...what a publicity stunt. He needs to realize that he's not in fairyland there and the bad guys use real bullets. What an ass clown.

275RLTW
02-10-2013, 15:17
Right on, we need that in Colorado.

No, we don't.

There are numerous options for active shooter training with much better credentials and reputation than washed out actors. DHS provides grants for all local agencies that provides free active shooter training. I know there are uually 1-2 active shooter courses being hosted each month in CO alone. We don't need more publicity stunts taking up our valuable oxygen.

hurley842002
02-10-2013, 15:43
No, we don't.

There are numerous options for active shooter training with much better credentials and reputation than washed out actors. DHS provides grants for all local agencies that provides free active shooter training. I know there are uually 1-2 active shooter courses being hosted each month in CO alone. We don't need more publicity stunts taking up our valuable oxygen.

I have mixed feelings about this. I like the fact that sheriff Joe is stepping up and giving his normal I don't give a crap what the .gov thinks approach, and Steven Seagal definitely does the job of making it high profile. However I agree that if he's going to be serious about training, he needs to use means other than this bafoon. As stated above, there are grants available, and much better suited instructors for the job.

275RLTW
02-10-2013, 15:56
I have mixed feelings about this. I like the fact that sheriff Joe is stepping up and giving his normal I don't give a crap what the .gov thinks approach, and Steven Seagal definitely does the job of making it high profile. However I agree that if he's going to be serious about training, he needs to use means other than this bafoon. As stated above, there are grants available, and much better suited instructors for the job.

Sheriff Joe has been offered numerous amounts of training for free in the last 3-4 years from lots of private companies and various federal agencies (including the alphabet ones), most of which he accepts. He is as much involved in this stunt as Segal is.

HBARleatherneck
02-10-2013, 16:12
stegal came out to 29 Palms and did some training with us before we deployed. im guessing he does this kind of thing alot.

bogie
02-10-2013, 16:33
stegal came out to 29 Palms and did some training with us before we deployed. im guessing he does this kind of thing alot.

Was it useful or just a clown show?

HBARleatherneck
02-10-2013, 16:40
if it wasnt hundreds of guys with one guy doing the training, it would have probably been good. if his stuff was incorporated into our regular training schedule. but, it seemed (as i remember it) to be mostly a good will thing for him. i dont remember any cameras or press.

Kraven251
02-10-2013, 16:43
Despite his Hollywood career he is an accomplished and accredited Aikido instructor. I don't know what his real personality is like now, but everything I saw of him pre-movie star he was a pretty easy going stand-up guy.

bogie
02-10-2013, 16:52
if it wasnt hundreds of guys with one guy doing the training, it would have probably been good. if his stuff was incorporated into our regular training schedule. but, it seemed (as i remember it) to be mostly a good will thing for him. i dont remember any cameras or press.

That's cool that he did that, and didn't publicize it. Personally I think that pro2A causes, and movements for personal responsibility can use all the help they can get.

DomEOD
02-10-2013, 18:10
I have a strange feeling you guys don't know that Seagal has been a LEO for over 20 years.. (just throwing that out there)

275RLTW
02-10-2013, 20:28
I have a strange feeling you guys don't know that Seagal has been a LEO for over 20 years.. (just throwing that out there)


I lived just down the street from him in S. Florida. He's been a conceited epitome of a douche for over 30 years. No, he has not been LEO for over 20 years. He took a "reserve deputy" course in CA once but has NEVER been a LEO. Even his time in New Orleans on TV is staged. He is a fake and does nothing that doesn't pad his wallet. I would be more comfortable with Tom Cruise teaching our pilots how to dogfight!

DomEOD
02-10-2013, 20:47
I lived just down the street from him in S. Florida. He's been a conceited epitome of a douche for over 30 years. No, he has not been LEO for over 20 years. He took a "reserve deputy" course in CA once but has NEVER been a LEO. Even his time in New Orleans on TV is staged. He is a fake and does nothing that doesn't pad his wallet. I would be more comfortable with Tom Cruise teaching our pilots how to dogfight!

Well i recant.. I did not know that was staged.

vossman
02-10-2013, 20:54
Chinese Star........