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EvilRhino
02-13-2013, 16:35
Time to strike back. To hell with crossing our fingers that they might see the light after 12 hours of testimony.


I stated last night that I am willing to do a lot of the legwork to set up the recall committee, etc. I have an extremely open schedule.


I'm currently reading up on the state rules but if anyone has experience please contact me.


Major notes:


60 days to gather enough signatures, 25% of the votes they received in the election.
Must be a registered committee once it receives or spends $5,000




state link (http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/CampaignFinance/committee/recall.html)


I don't know if all the signatures need to be from their district. I'd imagine if not, it would be easy to get the signatures by distributing petitions to gun shops throughout the state, reaching out to Magpul, etc.


http://www.sos.state.co.us/CCR/Rule.do?deptID=20&deptName=1505%20State&agencyID=104&agencyName=1505%C2%A0Secretary%20of%20State&ccrDocID=2776&ccrDocName=8%20CCR%201505-6%20RULES%20CONCERNING%20CAMPAIGN%20AND%20POLITICA L%20FINANCE&subDocID=59716&subDocName=Rule%2015.%20%20Recall%20Elections&version=41 (http://www.sos.state.co.us/CCR/Rule.do?<br /><br /><br />deptID=20&deptName=1505%20State&agencyID=104&agencyName=1505%C2%A0Secretary%20of%20State&ccrDocID=2776&ccrDocName=8%20CCR%201505-6%20RULES%20CONCERNING%20CAMPAIGN%20AND%20POLITICA L%20FINANCE&subDocID=59716&subDocName=Rule%2015.%20%20Recall%20Elections&version=41)


Of note:
Q8. What do we have to report?


A8. For contributions of $20 or more, the name and address of the contributor must be reported.


For contributions of $100 or more, the contributor’s name, address, employer and occupation must be reported.


At this point, I'm not even sure what the money would be for. I might be thinking small scale though. Maybe if we were running commercials, etc it would cost more.




More info on the process (http://www.ncsl.org/legislatures-elections/elections/recall-of-state-officials.aspx#Process)


FAQs for recall committees (http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/CampaignFinance/FAQ/recallCommittees.html)


My thought is Rhonda Fields needs to be the primary. Any others? All others? I'll make 10+ committees if I have to.

neversummer900
02-13-2013, 16:45
Best post I've seen thank you for the information. This will be on standby when and if my legislators deny my and everyone else in my districts rights.

Ronin13
02-13-2013, 16:48
Count me the hell in! Finally someone with the time, motivation, and knowledge is stepping up. [Beer]

USAFGopherMike
02-13-2013, 16:53
Well done. I'm interested.

Teufelhund
02-13-2013, 16:57
I was reading a little about this process last night; it looks like you found more than I did. [Alrigh]

As I understand it, the number of signatures needed for the petition in order to start the recall is 25% of the people who voted in the last election, for that particular office. I would be surprised if it were allowed to be voters outside that particular district, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.

There were two successful recalls last year in Colorado; perhaps we could reach out to the folks who participated in those committees for guidance. I'd also be willing to bet we could get assistance from a couple of the Republican Reps on the House Judiciary Committee.

Thanks for taking the initiative to start organizing this process. I am in to help and participate in whatever way I can.

MED
02-13-2013, 16:57
I would focus on legislators who don't vote their districts. For instance; Senator Nicholson from my district who represents West Jefferson and Gilpin Counties. Target all the rural Democrats.

Fields, although dumb as a box of rocks, is in a Democrat stronghold so it is a waste of time to go after her.

Ronin13: you have the same dumbass senator that i have (and one of the most left wing members of the legislature). I am willing to put work into getting here dumb ass out of there.

Ronin13
02-13-2013, 17:12
I would focus on legislators who don't vote their districts. For instance; Senator Nicholson from my district who represents West Jefferson and Gilpin Counties. Target all the rural Democrats.

Fields, although dumb as a box of rocks, is in a Democrat stronghold so it is a waste of time to go after her.

Ronin13: you have the same dumbass senator that i have (and one of the most left wing members of the legislature). I am willing to put work into getting here dumb ass out of there.
Yep... If nothing else we should be riding ourselves but I fear the Obamaton robots have invaded Evergreen and Morrison... so it could be a battle.

MED
02-13-2013, 17:23
Yep... If nothing else we should be riding ourselves but I fear the Obamaton robots have invaded Evergreen and Morrison... so it could be a battle.

She won her seat in 2010 by around 500 votes (I can't remember the exact number) The redistricting map made it worse, but she is so far left that she can be attacked. if nothing else, it would be good to recall her every year just to piss her off and make her work.

Teufelhund
02-13-2013, 17:35
I like the idea of filing a recall petition against every one of these people who are representing only their party or themselves instead of the people, whether there is a chance they will be recalled or not. However, if an official survives a recall election (keeps his/her seat), a new petition for recall cannot be filed against that person for the duration of that term.

MED
02-13-2013, 17:42
I like the idea of filing a recall petition against every one of these people who are representing only their party or themselves instead of the people, whether there is a chance they will be recalled or not. However, if an official survives a recall election (keeps his/her seat), a new petition for recall cannot be filed against that person for the duration of that term.

In the case of Jeanne Nicholson, she has an election in 2014. Recall her in 2013, make her campaign in 2014, and recall her again in 2015.

ColoFarmer
02-13-2013, 17:51
Districts I am in are well represented, so no recall needed here, but I'm game to help out where I can if you guys decide to target a district or two.

Fundraising would come in for the actual recall election, funds for the petition should be very minor (maybe pay for someones gas or lunch, maybe some printing costs...).

MED
02-13-2013, 18:18
Below, I put five Senators that will be vulnerable to gun legislation votes....put a lot of heat on them especially if you are in their district. If they don't listen, recall them.


This was a republican district and should be targeted (you guys up north contact him a lot)

Kefalas, John
(Wife: Beth Helmers)
Larimer
D

Legislator / College Instructor
Cap: 303-866-4841
E-mail: john.kefalas.senate@state.co.us


It is El Paso so go after:

Morse, John P.
El Paso
Executive
Cap: 303-866-6364
E-mail: john.morse.senate@state.co.us

Call Call Call:

Schwartz, Gail
(Husband: Alan E. Schwartz
Chaffee
Delta
Eagle
Gunnison
Hinsdale
Lake
Pitkin
Market Analyst
Cap: 303-866-4871
E-mail: gail.schwartz.senate@gmail.com[/TD]


This one might be good to:
Giron, Angela
(Husband: Steve Nawrocki)
Pueblo
Legislator
Cap: 303-866-4878
E-mail: angela.giron.senate@state.co.us

(angela.giron.senate@state.co.us)
(angela.giron.senate@state.co.us)Nicholson, Jeanne
(Husband: Craig)
Boulder
Denver
Gilpin
Jefferson
Public Health Nurse
Cap: 303-866-4873
E-mail: jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us

CO303
02-13-2013, 18:40
I'm in district 1 in denver. It woould be a waste of time here.

Cthulhu
02-13-2013, 23:28
I'm in.

brutal
02-14-2013, 00:12
Chris Hobart and Ted Harvey represent me, so I just send them praise.

I also get personal responses from Chris and at least a real live aide that responds for Harvey.

Busta Prima
02-14-2013, 07:55
It won't be possible to recall them all and if spread too thin we won't be able to recall any. Just like with vampires, go for the leader (chop off the head, whatever) and the rest will get the message. Go for that John whatever guy, do it loud and public and even if it's not sucessful, getting close will send a message. You don't hear much from that moron Walker in Wisconsin since he almost got ousted.

bryjcom
02-14-2013, 08:11
I'm putting this here so people will be more likely to see it. I saw a Recall effort is being proposed by another member. I think we need to remind them that we will recall them if they vote for these proposed bills.


Put "RECALL" IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF YOUR EMAIL... Something like "RECALL EFFORT UNDERWAY IF YOU VOTE FOR GUN CONTROL"


We need to stop this before we are forced to recall.


Here are some of the house members email:



Cindy.acree.house@state.co.us,
david.balmer.house@state.co.us,
mark.barker.house@state.co.us,
randy.baumgardner.house@state.co.us,
jon.becker.house@state.co.us,
don.beezley.house@state.co.us,
laurabradford55@gmail.com,
jpaul.brown.house@state.co.us,
Edward.casso.house@state.co.us,
Kathleen.conti.house@state.co.us,
don.coram.house@state.co.us,
lois.court.house@state.co.us,
brian@briandelgrosso.com,
crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us,
mferrandino@yahoo.com,
Rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us,
randyfischer@frii.com,
bob.gardner.house@state.co.us,
cheri.gerou@gmail.com,
millie.hamner.house@state.co.us,
dl.hullinghorst.house@state.co.us,
SenatorMattJones@gmail.com,
janak.joshi.house@state.co.us,
repkagan@gmail.com,
john.kefalas.house@state.co.us,
andy.kerr.house@state.co.us,
james.kerr.house@state.co.us,
Jeanne.labuda.house@state.co.us,
pete.lee.house@state.co.us,
Claire.levy.house@state.co.us,
larry.liston.house@state.co.us,
marshalooper@gmail.com,
tom.massey.house@state.co.us,
beth.mccann.house@state.co.us,
wes.mckinley.house@state.co.us,
joe@joemiklosi.com,
murrayhouse45@gmail.com,
dan.pabon.house@state.co.us,
sal.pace.house@state.co.us,
cherylin.peniston.house@state.co.us,
kpriola@gmail.com,
Robert.ramirez.house@state.co.us,
su.ryden.house@state.co.us,
sue.schafer.house@state.co.us,
ray.scott.house@state.co.us,
jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us,
judy.solano.house@state.co.us,
jerry@repsonnenberg.com,
john.soper.house@state.co.us,
amy.stephens.house@state.co.us,
ken.summers.house@state.co.us,
keith.swerdfeger.house@state.co.us,
libby.szabo.house@state.co.us,
nancy.todd.house@state.co.us,
max@maxtyler.us,
glenn.vaad.house@state.co.us,
edvigil1@gmail.com,
mark.waller.house@state.co.us,
angela.williams.house@state.co.us,
roger.wilson.house@state.co.us,
dave.young.house@state.co.us






Senate emails.




Irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us,
bob.bacon.senate@state.co.us,
betty.boyd.senate@state.co.us,
bill.cadman.senate@state.co.us,
morgan.carroll.senate@state.co.us,
joyce.foster.senate@state.co.us,
angela.giron.senate@state.co.us,
kevin.grantham.senate@state.co.us,
lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us,
ted.harvey.senate@state.co.us,
rollie.heath.senate@state.co.us,
mary.hodge.senate@state.co.us,
senatorhudak@gmail.com,
cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us,
mike.johnston.senate@state.co.us,
keith@keithking.org,
steve.king.senate@state.co.us,
senatorlambert@comcast.net,
kevin@kevinlundberg.com,
shawnmitch@aol.com,
john.morse.senate@state.co.us

Dingo
02-14-2013, 08:37
I'm all for writing everybody, and for informing them you'll have a personal and financial stake in defeating them next election if they don't vote pro-2A. But I thinkthe threat of a recall is probably going to be unlikely to persuade - it's long odds, and they know it. Otherwise, they would have listened to the majority of opposition that voiced itself in the committee hearings.

bryjcom
02-14-2013, 08:45
I'm all for writing everybody, and for informing them you'll have a personal and financial stake in defeating them next election if they don't vote pro-2A. But I thinkthe threat of a recall is probably going to be unlikely to persuade - it's long odds, and they know it. Otherwise, they would have listened to the majority of opposition that voiced itself in the committee hearings.

Well, maybe if they start getting a couple of hundred emails a day with "RECALL" in the subject line they might think twice....

I ain't over till the fat lady signs....

Great-Kazoo
02-14-2013, 08:45
I'm putting this here so people will be more likely to see it. I saw a Recall effort is being proposed by another member. I think we need to remind them that we will recall them WHEN they vote for these proposed bills.


Put "RECALL" IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF YOUR EMAIL... Something like "RECALL EFFORT UNDERWAY IF YOU VOTE FOR GUN CONTROL"


We need to stop this before we are forced to recall.


Here are some of the house members email:



Cindy.acree.house@state.co.us,
david.balmer.house@state.co.us,
mark.barker.house@state.co.us,
randy.baumgardner.house@state.co.us,
jon.becker.house@state.co.us,
don.beezley.house@state.co.us,
laurabradford55@gmail.com,
jpaul.brown.house@state.co.us,
Edward.casso.house@state.co.us,
Kathleen.conti.house@state.co.us,
don.coram.house@state.co.us,
lois.court.house@state.co.us,
brian@briandelgrosso.com,
crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us,
mferrandino@yahoo.com,
Rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us,
randyfischer@frii.com,
bob.gardner.house@state.co.us,
cheri.gerou@gmail.com,
millie.hamner.house@state.co.us,
dl.hullinghorst.house@state.co.us,
SenatorMattJones@gmail.com,
janak.joshi.house@state.co.us,
repkagan@gmail.com,
john.kefalas.house@state.co.us,
andy.kerr.house@state.co.us,
james.kerr.house@state.co.us,
Jeanne.labuda.house@state.co.us,
pete.lee.house@state.co.us,
Claire.levy.house@state.co.us,
larry.liston.house@state.co.us,
marshalooper@gmail.com,
tom.massey.house@state.co.us,
beth.mccann.house@state.co.us,
wes.mckinley.house@state.co.us,
joe@joemiklosi.com,
murrayhouse45@gmail.com,
dan.pabon.house@state.co.us,
sal.pace.house@state.co.us,
cherylin.peniston.house@state.co.us,
kpriola@gmail.com,
Robert.ramirez.house@state.co.us,
su.ryden.house@state.co.us,
sue.schafer.house@state.co.us,
ray.scott.house@state.co.us,
jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us,
judy.solano.house@state.co.us,
jerry@repsonnenberg.com,
john.soper.house@state.co.us,
amy.stephens.house@state.co.us,
ken.summers.house@state.co.us,
keith.swerdfeger.house@state.co.us,
libby.szabo.house@state.co.us,
nancy.todd.house@state.co.us,
max@maxtyler.us,
glenn.vaad.house@state.co.us,
edvigil1@gmail.com,
mark.waller.house@state.co.us,
angela.williams.house@state.co.us,
roger.wilson.house@state.co.us,
dave.young.house@state.co.us






Senate emails.




Irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us,
bob.bacon.senate@state.co.us,
betty.boyd.senate@state.co.us,
bill.cadman.senate@state.co.us,
morgan.carroll.senate@state.co.us,
joyce.foster.senate@state.co.us,
angela.giron.senate@state.co.us,
kevin.grantham.senate@state.co.us,
lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us,
ted.harvey.senate@state.co.us,
rollie.heath.senate@state.co.us,
mary.hodge.senate@state.co.us,
senatorhudak@gmail.com,
cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us,
mike.johnston.senate@state.co.us,
keith@keithking.org,
steve.king.senate@state.co.us,
senatorlambert@comcast.net,
kevin@kevinlundberg.com,
shawnmitch@aol.com,
john.morse.senate@state.co.us

Cthulhu
02-14-2013, 08:46
It is a long shot but I'm willing to try anything at this point.

bryjcom
02-14-2013, 08:51
Well, I think its a recall-able offense.

bryjcom
02-14-2013, 08:52
People...

Please feel free to add email links to specific congress critters. I don't have them all and a couple of them are old ones that are no longer in office

Dingo
02-14-2013, 08:53
Hell, I'm in. Just finished cleaning out my inbox of the last round of canned drivel the excreted in response to my letters... may as well let them fill it up again. :-)

robertcolorado2009
02-14-2013, 09:40
They are all directly responsible for Magpul's move out of Colorado and the loss of many many jobs in Colorado. It sits squarely on their shoulders. Something they shouldn't be proud of.

mahabali
02-14-2013, 09:49
Anyone have a sample email to put in the body of the email?

Dingo
02-14-2013, 10:00
Anyone have a sample email to put in the body of the email?

Dead "Elected" Swine,

You fucked up.

Hugs,
The Voting Populace

rlpguy720
02-14-2013, 10:05
As somebody who has actually showed up at the hearings this week, you need to take a clue. The Republicans are all on the side of the angels on this. They've ALL voted against these bills. NONE of them have sponsored the legislation. You need to direct your fire at the democrats that aren't in Boulder and Denver. A recall isn't a threat, you won't get enough signatures. What will get their attention is that you aren't sitting out the next election, that you're going to give money, walk doors and make calls AGAINST THEM.

EvilRhino
02-14-2013, 10:09
It won't be possible to recall them all and if spread too thin we won't be able to recall any. Just like with vampires, go for the leader (chop off the head, whatever) and the rest will get the message. Go for that John whatever guy, do it loud and public and even if it's not sucessful, getting close will send a message. You don't hear much from that moron Walker in Wisconsin since he almost got ousted.

We'd have 60 days to get the signatures and submit them. I think there's also a 6 month from the election deadline, so that puts us at about April for filing new ones. If we try to do the one and see how it's going, then go after any others.

I'm running a similar thread on Arf and someone was nice enough to post election results, including voter totals. The Fields election only had 20,000 voters, so we'd need 5,000 signatures to trigger a recall. Unfortunately, it was almost a 75-25% win for Fields.

I'm putting together a list of questions I plan to approach the Secretary of States office with, but if anyone has any questions or input, please share.

I've noted that even if we get the recall, it doesn't guarantee they won't get reelected, so start thinking of possible candidates to run against these people.

10mm-man
02-14-2013, 10:12
They need to be recalled for even considering it. Fields and 7 other members who sent it through..... Fields would be a great start; she had no clue what was even written.

10mm-man
02-14-2013, 10:14
As somebody who has actually showed up at the hearings this week, you need to take a clue. The Republicans are all on the side of the angels on this. They've ALL voted against these bills. NONE of them have sponsored the legislation. You need to direct your fire at the democrats that aren't in Boulder and Denver. A recall isn't a threat, you won't get enough signatures. What will get their attention is that you aren't sitting out the next election, that you're going to give money, walk doors and make calls AGAINST THEM.

Agree! But please tell me why you think we can't get enough signatures? 4000 needed right?

Ronin13
02-14-2013, 10:23
They need to be recalled for even considering it. Fields and 7 other members who sent it through..... Fields would be a great start; she had no clue what was even written.
It was stated yesterday- Fields fears no threat of recall- her district is very democratic, and getting her ousted would be extremely difficult, if not impossible... Sad but true.

Teufelhund
02-14-2013, 10:27
Fields won by a huge margin in 2012: 73.3% of the vote. 22,362 people voted in that election, which means we would need 5,591 signatures on the petition to recall her, and she has a strong D voter base that may just re-elect her.

We would need 9,658 signatures to recall Kagan, but he just barely won (50.8%) in 2012. Seems like an uphill battle, but not impossible.

If a petition with the required signatures is filed, the incumbent has 5 days to simply resign before having to go through the election process again. I say file them one at a time, starting with the easiest to recall, maybe Kagan, and go down the list. Some of them may just throw in the towel.

10mm-man
02-14-2013, 10:44
Fields won by a huge margin in 2012: 73.3% of the vote. 22,362 people voted in that election, which means we would need 5,591 signatures on the petition to recall her, and she has a strong D voter base that may just re-elect her.

We would need 9,658 signatures to recall Kagan, but he just barely won (50.8%) in 2012. Seems like an uphill battle, but not impossible.

If a petition with the required signatures is filed, the incumbent has 5 days to simply resign before having to go through the election process again. I say file them one at a time, starting with the easiest to recall, maybe Kagan, and go down the list. Some of them may just throw in the towel.

Democraphics would be nice to get a hold of- how many are NRA members, how many carry and have a CCW, etc. Bet there are enough who feel they are being rolled over. With todays technology it might be easier than you think (or not)..

I am done discussing- Action is needed! Meeting, meeting, meeting... We can do what ever we set our minds to and SUCCEED!

EDIT: Very good info in deed!! Thanks for that info..........

I know you expressed interest in meeting also. when your avialable give me a call would ya?

Cthulhu
02-14-2013, 11:03
Fields won by a huge margin in 2012: 73.3% of the vote. 22,362 people voted in that election, which means we would need 5,591 signatures on the petition to recall her, and she has a strong D voter base that may just re-elect her.

We would need 9,658 signatures to recall Kagan, but he just barely won (50.8%) in 2012. Seems like an uphill battle, but not impossible.

If a petition with the required signatures is filed, the incumbent has 5 days to simply resign before having to go through the election process again. I say file them one at a time, starting with the easiest to recall, maybe Kagan, and go down the list. Some of them may just throw in the towel.

Good info. Might be worth going after Fields anyway just to make her life hard. I'm not sure, would she need to spend money to campaign again?

MED
02-14-2013, 11:03
I would highly suggest targeting the legislators who are vulnerable, and not waste time on those who are in urban Democrat strongholds.

Blockhead
02-14-2013, 11:08
Just sent them all a piece of my mind. I've always voted, but have never contacted any politicians before all this nonsense started in December.

rocktot
02-14-2013, 11:15
They have a ONE Democrat majority. All we need is ONE decent Republican and can retract the bills, correct? They have a slim majority in either the house or senate.

10mm-man
02-14-2013, 11:19
They have a ONE Democrat majority. All we need is ONE decent Republican and can retract the bills, correct? They have a slim majority in either the house or senate.


I there such a thing as a constitutional Democrat? A Tea Party Democrat? If not maybe we should run one!

Ok now i am done.... Gotta go.. I will be in Glenwood Springs if anyone wants to meet, i will be in the Hot Springs. Phone number in prior comments.

Teufelhund
02-14-2013, 11:26
Good info. Might be worth going after Fields anyway just to make her life hard. I'm not sure, would she need to spend money to campaign again?

She would have to spend money to campaign for the recall election, but if she wins re-election, she is reimbursed for the campaign expenses from the State Treasury.

Cthulhu
02-14-2013, 11:28
She would have to spend money to campaign for the recall election, but if she wins re-election, she is reimbursed for the campaign expenses from the State Treasury.

Well scratch that then. She'd just be reimbursed with our new "universal back ground check" money.

rocktot
02-14-2013, 11:32
Ok, you need to take 2 names out of the House email list, as the CC only takes 25 names!

brobar
02-14-2013, 11:34
I was just about to post those addresses as well, but you beat me to it OP. Here is a comma delimited list so it should be paste friendly right into the "to" section of your email:


john.buckner.house@state.co.us (john.buckner.house@state.co.us), perrybuck49@gmail.com (perrybuck49@gmail.com), kathleen.conti.house@state.co.us (kathleen.conti.house@state.co.us), don.coram.house@state.co.us (don.coram.house@state.co.us), lois.court.house@state.co.us (lois.court.house@state.co.us), brian@briandelgrosso.com (brian@briandelgrosso.com), tim.dore.house@state.co.us (tim.dore.house@state.co.us), crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us (crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us), justin.everett.house@state.co.us (justin.everett.house@state.co.us), thomas.exum.house@state.co.us (thomas.exum.house@state.co.us), mferrandino@yahoo.com (mferrandino@yahoo.com), rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us (rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us), randyfischer@frii.com (randyfischer@frii.com), mike.foote.house@state.co.us (mike.foote.house@state.co.us), leroy.garcia.house@state.co.us (leroy.garcia.house@state.co.us), bob.gardner.house@state.co.us (bob.gardner.house@state.co.us), cheri.gerou@gmail.com (cheri.gerou@gmail.com), joann.ginal.house@state.co.us (joann.ginal.house@state.co.us), millie.hamner.house@state.co.us (millie.hamner.house@state.co.us), chris.holbert.house@state.co.us (chris.holbert.house@state.co.us), dl.hullinghorst.house@state.co.us (dl.hullinghorst.house@state.co.us), rephumphrey48@yahoo.com (rephumphrey48@yahoo.com), janak.joshi.house@state.co.us (janak.joshi.house@state.co.us), repkagan@gmail.com (repkagan@gmail.com), reptracy29@gmail.com (reptracy29@gmail.com), jeanne.labuda.house@state.co.us (jeanne.labuda.house@state.co.us), lois.landgraf.house@state.co.us (lois.landgraf.house@state.co.us), polly.lawrence.house@state.co.us (polly.lawrence.house@state.co.us), steve.lebsock.house@state.co.us (steve.lebsock.house@state.co.us), pete.lee.house@state.co.us (pete.lee.house@state.co.us), claire.levy.house@state.co.us (claire.levy.house@state.co.us), jenise.may.house@state.co.us (jenise.may.house@state.co.us), beth.mccann.house@state.co.us (beth.mccann.house@state.co.us), mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us (mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us), jovan.melton.house@state.co.us (jovan.melton.house@state.co.us), diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us (diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us), dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us (dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us), murrayhouse45@gmail.com (murrayhouse45@gmail.com), clarice.navarro.house@state.co.us (clarice.navarro.house@state.co.us), dan.nordberg.house@state.co.us (dan.nordberg.house@state.co.us), dan.pabon.house@state.co.us (dan.pabon.house@state.co.us), cherylin.peniston.house@state.co.us (cherylin.peniston.house@state.co.us), brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us (brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us), dianne.primavera.house@state.co.us (dianne.primavera.house@state.co.us), kpriola@gmail.com (kpriola@gmail.com), bob.rankin.house@state.co.us (bob.rankin.house@state.co.us), paul.rosenthal.house@state.co.us (paul.rosenthal.house@state.co.us), su.ryden.house@state.co.us (su.ryden.house@state.co.us), lori.saine.house@state.co.us (lori.saine.house@state.co.us), joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us (joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us), sue.schafer.house@state.co.us (sue.schafer.house@state.co.us), ray.scott.house@state.co.us (ray.scott.house@state.co.us), jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us (jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us), jerry@repsonnenberg.com (jerry@repsonnenberg.com), amy.stephens.house@state.co.us (amy.stephens.house@state.co.us), spencer.swalm.house@state.co.us (spencer.swalm.house@state.co.us), libby.szabo.house@state.co.us (libby.szabo.house@state.co.us), max@maxtyler.us (max@maxtyler.us), edvigil1@gmail.com (edvigil1@gmail.com), mark.waller.house@state.co.us (mark.waller.house@state.co.us), angela.williams.house@state.co.us (angela.williams.house@state.co.us), james.wilson.house@state.co.us (james.wilson.house@state.co.us), jared.wright.house@state.co.us (jared.wright.house@state.co.us), dave.young.house@state.co.us (dave.young.house@state.co.us)

This is just the House, not the Senate. I emailed them earlier this morning. I focused on how if they are true to their word and they find it worth it if they can save just ONE life... they won't vote for these measures because they put thousands if not millions of lives in danger. These are dangerous measures that have the potential to cost lives because of them. If they want to save even just ONE life, they will vote NO against these measures.


The first few responses I have received:

I will be supporting your 2nd Amendment rights and working hard to oppose any legislation that violates your liberties and rights.


Thank you for your email. I will be voting no on these gun control measures, that attack the second amendment instead of addressing the few people who miss use firearms.


Thank you for contacting me about gun issues. We are considering various options and I appreciate your input. Best of luck with your education.
McCann's would be a "screw you" to me since I mentioned having to give a lot of thought of where I went to law school if I were not allowed to carry on campus.


I'll vote "No" on any/all gun control legislation.
The Second Amendment exists to protect us from tyranny and I will not compromise on that issue.

If you'd like to learn about my efforts to defend the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens, then please take time to read this recent article:

http://thecoloradoobserver.com/2013/01/gun-rights-backers-rally-at-state-capitol/

You might also enjoy listening to the speech that I offered during the "Guns Across America" rally that was held at the Colorado Capitol on January 19, 2013:

Chris Holbert At Gun Appreciation Day 1/19/2013, Denver CO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0qYp9BNqpc)

There was no doubt in my mind that Chris was on our side! We need more like him!


I assure you that I too respect the Constitutional right to bear arms.
Moreover, data indicate that gun-control legislation does not prevent
tragic shootings.

I fully expected a great deal of pressure from those who want control
over all facets of our lives. Despite many Coloradans' testimony
opposing the gun-control bills, the House committees to which they
were assigned passed them. Perhaps the vote of the full House
membership will be more responsive to Coloradans' views.

Thank you for your message and for your defense of our treasured
Constitution. I encourage you to continue sharing your thoughts and
concerns with me.


Representative Everett is endorsed by RMGO (Rocky Mountain Gun Owners) PAC and is committed to protecting our Second Amendment Rights. I have attached two press articles quoting Representative Everett and referencing his sponsorship of 'Make My Day Better Bill.'Please stay tuned as legislation is introduced, debated and voted.
I encourage you to reach out to additional Representatives to stress your views.
There will be hearings for the public to provide input and we encourage you to participate. Watch for hearing updates on the leg.state.co.us website. I am also attaching the RMGO PAC website which will enable you to track state legislation as it relates to our Second Amendment Rights.

EvilRhino
02-14-2013, 11:42
I called the SoS and got directed to a .pdf on the rules. Lawyer speak (http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/LawsRules/files/Title1Final.pdf) Article 12 is the one regarding recalls. Starts on page 299.


I don't speak legalese, but from what I've read;


The person(s) starting the petition must be registered to vote in the officials district.
Anyone who signs must be registered to vote in the officials district.
The 25% rule we've already covered.
It appears we'd have to WAIT 6 months after the election to file.
File a 200 word or less petition to the SoS for approval explain why the official should be recalled. Once approved, it would be the petition that people would read and then have a signature page attached.


[size=2]IF the official being recalled re-wins the office, any money they put into being reelected is repaid to them by the state treasury[/size=2] Section 1-12-120 So the idea that this will cost them money could backfire.


This was my first reading of it, but it appears that we will need people in the districts to do this. I'm not sure if there needs to be an official rep or committee as long as the $5000 limit isn't reached.

Dave
02-14-2013, 11:42
I'd love to see Fields go away since I believe I'm in her district, but she gets so much sympathy from gun grabbers because of the theater shooting and her kid.

MED
02-14-2013, 12:24
The Senate elections are staggered. Some of the Senators that were elected in 2010 are fair game now. They have four year terms.

brobar
02-14-2013, 13:38
Here is a comma-delimited list of all 35 Senators ready for you to paste right into the BCC line of your email:


irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us (irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us), david.balmer.senate@state.co.us (david.balmer.senate@state.co.us), randy.baumgardner.senate@state.co.us (randy.baumgardner.senate@state.co.us), greg@gregbrophy.net (greg@gregbrophy.net), bill.cadman.senate@state.co.us (bill.cadman.senate@state.co.us), morgan.carroll.senate@state.co.us (morgan.carroll.senate@state.co.us), larry.crowder.senate@state.co.us (larry.crowder.senate@state.co.us), angela.giron.senate@state.co.us (angela.giron.senate@state.co.us), kevin.grantham.senate@state.co.us (kevin.grantham.senate@state.co.us), lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us (lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us), ted.harvey.senate@state.co.us (ted.harvey.senate@state.co.us), rollie.heath.senate@state.co.us (rollie.heath.senate@state.co.us), owen.hill.senate@state.co.us (owen.hill.senate@state.co.us), mary.hodge.senate@state.co.us (mary.hodge.senate@state.co.us), senatorhudak@gmail.com (senatorhudak@gmail.com), cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us (cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us), mike.johnston.senate@state.co.us (mike.johnston.senate@state.co.us), senatormattjones@gmail.com (senatormattjones@gmail.com), john.kefalas.senate@state.co.us (john.kefalas.senate@state.co.us), andy.kerr.senate@state.co.us (andy.kerr.senate@state.co.us), steve.king.senate@state.co.us (steve.king.senate@state.co.us), senatorlambert@comcast.net (senatorlambert@comcast.net), kevin@kevinlundberg.com (kevin@kevinlundberg.com), vicki.marble.senate@state.co.us (vicki.marble.senate@state.co.us), john.morse.senate@state.co.us (john.morse.senate@state.co.us), linda.newell.senate@gmail.com (linda.newell.senate@gmail.com), jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us (jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us), senatorrenfroe@gmail.com (senatorrenfroe@gmail.com), ellen.roberts.senate@state.co.us (ellen.roberts.senate@state.co.us), mark.scheffel.senate@state.co.us (mark.scheffel.senate@state.co.us), gail.schwartz.senate@gmail.com (gail.schwartz.senate@gmail.com), pat.steadman.senate@state.co.us (pat.steadman.senate@state.co.us), lotochtrop@aol.com (lotochtrop@aol.com), nancy.todd.senate@state.co.us (nancy.todd.senate@state.co.us), jessie.ulibarri.senate@state.co.us (jessie.ulibarri.senate@state.co.us)

dwalker460
02-14-2013, 13:47
Fields won by a huge margin in 2012: 73.3% of the vote. 22,362 people voted in that election, which means we would need 5,591 signatures on the petition to recall her, and she has a strong D voter base that may just re-elect her.

We would need 9,658 signatures to recall Kagan, but he just barely won (50.8%) in 2012. Seems like an uphill battle, but not impossible.

If a petition with the required signatures is filed, the incumbent has 5 days to simply resign before having to go through the election process again. I say file them one at a time, starting with the easiest to recall, maybe Kagan, and go down the list. Some of them may just throw in the towel.


Feilds won because Obama was on the ticket, if subject to a recall I do not think she will have the support she had them. Given almost any viable option, she would likely lose.

Morse and Fields would be the prime targets, because they are the instigators. Morse's position is not very solid and he won by the skin of his teeth.

Regardless, just getting the issue of a recall HEARD should be enough, because there is a serious risk these folks will lose, especially if they have to actually talk on points other than " I oppose Romney, I stand with the President etc etc".

jhirsh5280
02-14-2013, 15:00
If word of a recall effort hits the media it might get some legs. If anyone has media contacts I'd advise to use them to make sure the media knows this is happening. Hopefully they will start asking questions of our elected officials and make them sweat a bit.

muddywings
02-14-2013, 17:31
Gotta head home...it's V-Day so this is rushed post!

I went into the CO Legislature page and corrected and cut out the (R)s

Here you go, (D)s only:

Kathleen.conti.house@state.co.us, lois.court.house@state.co.us, crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us, Thomas.exum.house@state.co.us, mferrandino@yahoo.com, Rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us, randyfischer@frii.com, mike.foote.house@state.co.us, Leroy.garcia.house@state.co.us, millie.hamner.house@state.co.us, dl.hullinghorst.house@state.co.us, repkagan@gmail.com, john.kefalas.senate@state.co.us, reptracy29@gmail.com, Jeanne.labuda.house@state.co.us, Steve.lebsock.house@state.co.us, pete.lee.house@state.co.us, Claire.levy.house@state.co.us, jenise.may.house@state.co.us, beth.mccann.house@state.co.us, mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us, Jovan.melton.house@state.co.us, diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us, Dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us, dan.pabon.house@state.co.us, cherylin.peniston.house@state.co.us, Brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us, Dianne.primavera.house@state.co.us, Paul.rosenthal.house@state.co.us, su.ryden.house@state.co.us, Joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us, sue.schafer.house@state.co.us, jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us, nancy.todd.senate@state.co.us, max@maxtyler.us, edvigil1@gmail.com, angela.williams.house@state.co.us, dave.young.house@state.co.us, Irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us, john.buckner.house@state.co.us, morgan.carroll.senate@state.co.us, angela.giron.senate@state.co.us, lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us, rollie.heath.senate@state.co.us, mary.hodge.senate@state.co.us, senatorhudak@gmail.com, cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us, mike.johnston.senate@state.co.us, senatormattjones@gmail.com, john.morse.senate@state.co.us, linda.newell.senate@gmail.com, Jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us, Pat.steadman.senate@state.co.us,


I gave them a short email:
Subject: Vote no on HR 1224/6/8/9

5 sentence short, I hope you will oppose these bills and work on legistation that will keep criminals in jail and work on our mental health care system....blablabla

"how will you vote?" is how I eneded.


I don't think we need waste time with the (R)s other than a nice thank you.


ETA: a few kick backs so I removed them from the above listing

muddywings
02-14-2013, 17:32
Quick reply:

Hi Brian,


You aren't in my district, but you asked a question, so I am answering you -- I am voting yes.


Regards,


Rep. Rosenthal (D-Denver)

hollohas
02-14-2013, 17:33
It's so easy to tell which one of our Representatives are the good guys by their email replies. The bad guys don't give a [pileoshit]what we think.

for example:

Good guy


Thank you for your email and your concern for the Second Amendment.

As a member of the House Committee on Education, I've already voted
"No" on one of the bills. The slate of bills is now scheduled to be
heard on the House floor on Friday, February 15 beginning at 9:00 a.m.
I will vote "No" on all so-called "gun control" legislation.

The Second Amendment exists as our defense against tyranny. I will not
negotiate with your Rights under the Constitution, which means that I
will not compromise on the Second Amendment.

Please, if you are able, come to the Colorado Capitol Friday morning.
Sit in the House gallery and hear for yourself what supporters of such
misguided legislation have to say.

If you have Comcast cable service in the Denver area, then you can
also watch us on channel 165. You can also watch or listen to
proceedings on the House Chambers online at:

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2013A/cslFrontPages.nsf/Audio?OpenPage

It is an honor and privilege to serve in the Colorado House of Representatives.

Respectfully yours,

- Chris

Representative Chris Holbert

Hahaha, I just noticed the email address Rep. Holbert's response came from. <repholbert+canned.response@gmail.com>

Bad guy


Thank you for contacting me about gun issues. We are considering various options and I appreciate your input.

Rep. McCann

centrarchidae
02-14-2013, 20:10
Cherylin Peniston's reply was basically "I support closing the private gun sales loophole and I haven't made up my mind about anything else." Or words to that effect.

Westminster peeps need to lean on her. Although her district is mostly (all?) Adams County, so it may be a safe Dem seat anyway.

Or not. In 1994 everybody thought Dan Rostenkowski (D-IL, inside the city of Chicago itself) was safe as well and we managed to throw him out of office.

Anyway, if this bullshit comes to a vote and Peniston votes for either 1224 or 1229, I've got the maximum legal donation ($200?) for anybody who runs against her. Ditto my state senator, Steadman.

loveski
02-14-2013, 23:19
There were two successful recalls last year in Colorado; perhaps we could reach out to the folks who participated in those committees for guidance. I'd also be willing to bet we could get assistance from a couple of the Republican Reps on the House Judiciary Committee.

Thanks for taking the initiative to start organizing this process. I am in to help and participate in whatever way I can.
+1 getting help from those who have already gone through the process would be priceless. Who were they? If it was a republican group I'm sure they'd help.

EvilRhino
02-15-2013, 00:05
I called the Colorado GOP today and talked with a gal and she took my info. Said she needed to decide who to give it to to help me. Just stated that I wanted to avoid pitfalls of inexperience, etc. Haven't heard back. At this point I plan on being at the capital for the vote tomorrow. Parking was hell Tuesday.

Teufelhund
02-15-2013, 00:39
+1 getting help from those who have already gone through the process would be priceless. Who were they? If it was a republican group I'm sure they'd help.

The successful recalls last year were:
Saquache County: Melinda Myers
Trinidad: Alfredo Pando

I don't know with which party they're associated.

DOC
02-15-2013, 01:13
I'm in give me something to do.

Ronin13
02-15-2013, 11:53
Nicholson sent me a form letter, she's obviously unable to listen to reason so I sent this to try and inspire a little fear that her job is at stake:

Senator Nicholson,
In light of your response- albeit a form letter- you have proven yourself incapable of actually listening to the mass amount of people in this state, including industry leading, Colorado based company Magpul Industries, regarding this proposed legislation. I am left with little option but to recommend your name be added to a list of other Colorado representatives in a request for recall that a large firearms community I belong to has been setting up. You clearly have no interest in respecting our rights to own and possess arms as outlined by the second amendment to the US Constitution as well as outlined in the Colorado Constitution.
Thank you for your time,
XXXX X. XXXXXXXX

keylay31
02-15-2013, 21:46
I'm in give me something to do.

Ditto. Also see: http://www.ar-15.co/threads/89101-Colorado-Rifle-Association?p=944009#post944009

Aloha_Shooter
02-16-2013, 01:21
Iem'm in a "good" district so unable to file or sign any recall petitions but will assist with time, money and efforts. We need to throw the fear of .... I guess Gaia since most of these pinko swine are Godless ... in them

DOC
02-16-2013, 09:54
I think its Gina as in vagina because they act like one.

Chief_of_Scouts
02-20-2013, 00:10
Guns = Power
In the wrong hands, great tragedies are committed.

Political Office = Power
In the wrong hands, great tragedies are committed.

Great tragedies, like a wrong-minded person, attacking our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. When a person decides to willfully attack us, we have the choice to fight back or give up and accept our role as a victim. Both perpetrators of these heinous acts are committing them with full knowledge of the consequences and results of their actions. The shooter in a school theater, mall or church knows full well the act they are committing is unlawful, yet they don't care about the public's opinion of them or their act. The politician that sponsors or votes for an unconstitutional bill is also aware of the lawful violation they are committing, but they do care about public opinion.

Some politicians believe that it is their right to enact laws that are meant to protect the people from themselves. These politicians feel it is their right. However, it is merely a privilege, granted by the people, to serve the will of the people. What is a right, is the inalienable one granted to us by the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America.

A politician will use all of the tricks of the political trade to ensure they acquire and retain power. District manipulation, disguised bribery, backroom deals and worst of all, removing the means from the people to react to tyrannical authority over the people. When the will of the people is no longer respected, the entrenched politician needs only to fear the people's means to forcibly remove them.

Colorado has suffered some horrific tragedies in our recent history. None have been as tragic as the rogue politicians in office today, that have endangered the citizens of Colorado, with their well meaning legislation. They are using their people-granted power to infringe upon our right to defend ourselves and those we protect. They are also ensuring that as they continue down the path of stripping away our liberties, that we will eventually be powerless to stop them.

Please join me, and the thousands of others in Colorado that are outraged by these recent abuses of power and recall the rogue politicians in office today. We may still have our guns today, but unless we vote, we will lose more than just our right to bear arms.

keylay31
02-20-2013, 00:32
Please join me, and the thousands of others in Colorado that are outraged by these recent abuses of power and recall the rogue politicians in office today. We may still have our guns today, but unless we vote, we will lose more than just our right to bear arms.

Join you how? In voting? I'm confused.

SG1
02-20-2013, 03:54
How are things going? How many people have signed up?

Chief_of_Scouts
02-20-2013, 08:43
Join you how? In voting? I'm confused.

Please read the original post on page 1, regarding the efforts by members of this forum to recall Colorado State Representatives that are out of touch with the people. I believe EvilRhino is spearheading this, I am just supporting the movement.

EvilRhino
02-20-2013, 09:02
I've provided all the info I can find. I never heard back from the Colorado GOP regarding helping with this.

These recalls are limited to constituents in the districts of the rep, which makes sense. At my location in Douglas county, both of mine are R's so no need for recall here. My current recourse, aside from continuing the emails and attending the committee hearings, will be participating in any lawsuit after the fact.

I've reached out to others, gun owners, people in the industry in afflicted districts and have been met with apathy and defeatism, including the idea of the lawsuit if they pass will fail.

Between the 2 forums, James and Keith are doing a much better job of organizing efforts. I'm still willing to help anyone who needs it. My thinking is the first recall petitions should be active before the Senate votes.

Birddog1911
02-20-2013, 09:05
I am more than happy to help with getting John Morse recalled.