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As for me Rand Paul would be the choice,he is young,honest, has a lot of really great ideas most of which dont cost a dime on the ground the government will not a damn thing. and this father has built a really big movment..
he is very pro gun..
What say you? how do you want?
Singlestack
02-14-2013, 07:09
Rand would be my choice as well. He is a solid conservative without Ron's kookiness. Has great backbone, at least for now, but then Washington does tend to change people into those who do not represent the people very well...
Goodburbon
02-14-2013, 07:18
Something different from what the norm has been. A shorter primary season and all primaries held on the same day.
ETA:
By something different i mean that all the losers are out. They lost to a loser, who lost to a loser 4 years ago.
buffalobo
02-14-2013, 08:49
Not trying to be adversarial, but do you think you really get a say in the matter?
During all the love fests and pissing matches(we call discussions) last fall, how many said Romney was not their first choice, but would support anyway? From my observations a majority on this forum and elsewhere felt this way.
If that were the case, then why was he the nominee?
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Middle America evangelical primary weight. By the time the shit train hits Colorado only the worst smelling pieces are still on board. That's why the primaries should all be held same day.
theboomboom
02-14-2013, 10:18
Rand's dad.
He's as honest and consistent as the day is long, and he's got the strongest grassroots support of any politician I've ever seen. Given a fair shake by the media, I think he's got a chance since he is what lots of folks have been longing for in a Commander-in-Chief.
ghettodub
02-14-2013, 10:30
Rand and Rubio would make a good ticket
Anyone but Clinton. God help us.
jhirsh5280
02-14-2013, 14:44
Allen West would be a good choice. A war hero with a pretty remarkable record, conservative, tea party member, no BS straight forward thinker. Speaks with clear logical an rational statements and a student of the game
osok-308
02-14-2013, 14:53
Rand and Rubio would make a good ticket
My thoughts (and hopes) exactly
Rand and Rubio would make a good ticket
THIS!
Allen West would be a good choice. A war hero with a pretty remarkable record, conservative, tea party member, no BS straight forward thinker. Speaks with clear logical an rational statements and a student of the game
And This too... but it's far less likely than Rand/Rubio... I really can get behind the idea of Rubio swaying a lot of hispanic votes- somewhere Romney got destroyed this last time around. I'm fine with all the suggested, as long as they STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM SOCIAL ISSUES LIKE ABORTION! That's what lost it for us, the GOP vs Women bullshit, the abortion issue, gay marriage, etc... Now all we need is someone smart enough to keep their mouth shut about entitlements and social crap and then when they're elected they can do all their right-leaning appeasement.
The "free press" is already trying to destroy Rubio. Right out of the playbook they've been using for the past 20-30 years.
"He goes in stylistically, he's sweating like Nixon. He goes for the water in a really awkward way which will, quite frankly, be what's most remembered from this," Belcher said. "Style matters. And he fumbled."
(http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/14/cnn-teases-rubio-segment-by-asking-if-water-swig-is-career-ender/#ixzz2KuQQj3Fb)
Rachel Maddow (AKA Harry Potter's ugly older brother) went after him as well apparently.
Oh yeah and this one is great..
"Host Al Sharpton even took a drink from a gigantic Poland Spring jug, just to hammer home the mocking."
What's the problem Al? Don't you have some fake rape case to go after the cops with anymore? Race-baiting a$$clown.
THIS!
And This too... but it's far less likely than Rand/Rubio... I really can get behind the idea of Rubio swaying a lot of hispanic votes- somewhere Romney got destroyed this last time around. I'm fine with all the suggested, as long as they STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM SOCIAL ISSUES LIKE ABORTION! That's what lost it for us, the GOP vs Women bullshit, the abortion issue, gay marriage, etc... Now all we need is someone smart enough to keep their mouth shut about entitlements and social crap and then when they're elected they can do all their right-leaning appeasement.
isnt every issue in some way a socal issue? dont get me wrong, leave abortion and gay people wanting to tie the knot out of the race, its not a real issue, focuse on things we have them dead to rights on the like denfence of the 2nd amendment,securing the border,a fiar tax,school vouchers, limiting 3rd world immigration,ect
Do you think if we retake Congress and with Rand paul in office we could repeal some of the acts of treson other wise know as gun control? I mean if we repeal the Hughes amendment(which was never passed to beign with,long sotry google it) it would be at least 10,000,000 a year in taxes just on the NFA tax alone....
The "free press" is already trying to destroy Rubio. Right out of the playbook they've been using for the past 20-30 years.
"He goes in stylistically, he's sweating like Nixon. He goes for the water in a really awkward way which will, quite frankly, be what's most remembered from this," Belcher said. "Style matters. And he fumbled."
(http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/14/cnn-teases-rubio-segment-by-asking-if-water-swig-is-career-ender/#ixzz2KuQQj3Fb)
Rachel Maddow (AKA Harry Potter's ugly older brother) went after him as well apparently.
Oh yeah and this one is great..
"Host Al Sharpton even took a drink from a gigantic Poland Spring jug, just to hammer home the mocking."
What's the problem Al? Don't you have some fake rape case to go after the cops with anymore? Race-baiting a$$clown.
they have to..they dont have any real solutions for any problems...they need opponents because they dont have the abilty to solve any of the problems they have created over the last 120 years(the progressive marxist)
ChunkyMonkey
02-20-2013, 19:28
Rand's dad.
He's as honest and consistent as the day is long, and he's got the strongest grassroots support of any politician I've ever seen. Given a fair shake by the media, I think he's got a chance since he is what lots of folks have been longing for in a Commander-in-Chief.
As consistent as he is against the UN then later whine to the UN about his name dot com?
Jesus-With-A-.45
02-20-2013, 19:38
My thoughts (and hopes) exactly
X's 2
Jesus-With-A-.45
02-20-2013, 19:40
The "free press" is already trying to destroy Rubio. Right out of the playbook they've been using for the past 20-30 years.
"He goes in stylistically, he's sweating like Nixon. He goes for the water in a really awkward way which will, quite frankly, be what's most remembered from this," Belcher said. "Style matters. And he fumbled."
(http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/14/cnn-teases-rubio-segment-by-asking-if-water-swig-is-career-ender/#ixzz2KuQQj3Fb)
Rachel Maddow (AKA Harry Potter's ugly older brother) went after him as well apparently.
Oh yeah and this one is great..
"Host Al Sharpton even took a drink from a gigantic Poland Spring jug, just to hammer home the mocking."
What's the problem Al? Don't you have some fake rape case to go after the cops with anymore? Race-baiting a$$clown.
They all go up against the wall first.
Sharpienads
02-20-2013, 20:14
Randubio.
+1
But what I would really love is state legislators and governors in all 50 states that have the testicular fortitude to make the federal government as insignificant as the Constitution designed it to be.
THIS!
And This too... but it's far less likely than Rand/Rubio... I really can get behind the idea of Rubio swaying a lot of hispanic votes- somewhere Romney got destroyed this last time around. I'm fine with all the suggested, as long as they STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM SOCIAL ISSUES LIKE ABORTION! That's what lost it for us, the GOP vs Women bullshit, the abortion issue, gay marriage, etc... Now all we need is someone smart enough to keep their mouth shut about entitlements and social crap and then when they're elected they can do all their right-leaning appeasement.
Rand/Rubio would be awesome...I think. I don't recall any GOP contenders bringing up abortion and gay marriage and all the other devisive issues. It seems to me, the media brings those issues into the fold because they know we'll get killed on them. Incidentally, as a Christian, I am against those things like millions of other people. Those of us who are conservative, are being marginalized and portrayed as fringe lunatics, to minimize our influence. It's a fine line, to stand for your conservative principles, and not lose the support of less conseravative, non-liberals. Actually, I believe anyone who is to the right of the radical left, is being portrayed as right wing, extremist, loonies. We are the mainstream Americans! The left does such an awesome job of demonizing us to the rest of the world, that we haven't got a chance to win elections it seems. We need to fight the image that they have created for us.
The last election, we kept hearing about this "War on Women". Where did they get that? They throw something...anything against the wall and it will stick. Why don't we say the left is waging a "War on the Constitution" and "War on Freedom" and "War on Marriage"...ok maybe not that last one. "War on Normalcy"? Heck I don't know.
Busta Prima
02-20-2013, 20:57
THIS!
. I'm fine with all the suggested, as long as they STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM SOCIAL ISSUES LIKE ABORTION! That's what lost it for us, the GOP vs Women bullshit, the abortion issue, gay marriage, etc... Now all we need is someone smart enough to keep their mouth shut about entitlements and social crap and then when they're elected they can do all their right-leaning appeasement.
Actually not just keep their mouth shut but drop the whole issue from the platform permanently. That's the only way. Otherwise this pendulum swing will NEVER STOP. The problem with the two parties has always been trading one right for the other. The simple, well proven fact is a majority of Americans are pro gun AND pro choice. The first of the two parties to realize that and honestly change their rights grabbing ways will destroy the other . . . until they go back on their word, of course.
hammer03
02-20-2013, 22:01
Someone electable. The dumbasses to keep their mouths shut and stay out of the media.
Mostly, some wins. And a President. Maybe even someone with some backbone and brains.
Someone electable. The dumbasses to keep their mouths shut and stay out of the media.
Mostly, some wins. And a President. Maybe even someone with some backbone and brains.
Honestly, I am not sure that sentence 1 and 5 are mutually exclsuive.
Is Ross Perot still alive? How about Ted Nuggent?
brianakell
02-20-2013, 23:25
Rand would be great, but if it happens, Ill eat a shoe with ketchup.
Who the the GOP will pick:
Someone real middle of the road. A real pansy. A pretend spine.
Someone the GOP can manipulate like warm silly putty in the summer sun.
Someone completely useless, with absolutely no care for the constitution, the People, taking responsibility or standing up for anything.
Someone to dance around like a puppet, and yet still get no closer to an improvement of any situation in this country, and still fail to get anything done to get a budget put together.
In short, same ol junk we've had for.... hmm..... yeah I think the last real prez was before I could vote.
How about a young guy out of Colorado, who happens to post on this board. His vp wold be Ted Nugent. Together we would make shit happen!
theboomboom
02-21-2013, 12:43
As consistent as he is against the UN then later whine to the UN about his name dot com?
This has been explained...
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/132275.html
You may not like the UN either, but if you had a claim to chunkymonkey.com and it was registered by an Australian, they'd be the only arbitrating body to go through. It's not like he's a congressman any more, as a private citizen using his own resources, he has the same legal status and protection available as you and I.
How about a young guy out of Colorado, who happens to post on this board. His vp wold be Ted Nugent. Together we would make shit happen!
Sorry, I'm not of eligible president age yet... [Coffee]
I'd be up for Chris Holbert... you're talking about him, right?
Why is everyone so amped for Rubio, just because he might capture some Latino votes? Personally I think the GOP needs a strong woman that is super-smart, NOT hyper-evangelical, and not a train wreck of gaffes like Palin, in at least the VP role. Just my opinion on the getting the best chance against Billary or whoever the Dems put up.
generalmeow
02-21-2013, 14:23
I would prefer no one from the GOP in 2016 , because I don't believe in the GOP any more. Every single election they tell us what we want to hear, and then spend their term doing the opposite. I don't know about you guys, but they're not fooling me one more time.
GOP grows the government only at a slightly slower pace than the Democrats.
How many times can you bear to watch the Harlem Globetrotters vs Washington Generals before you figure out it's rigged?
Professor Frink
02-21-2013, 15:12
How about someone with balls for a change.
I would prefer no one from the GOP in 2016 , because I don't believe in the GOP any more. Every single election they tell us what we want to hear, and then spend their term doing the opposite. I don't know about you guys, but they're not fooling me one more time.
GOP grows the government only at a slightly slower pace than the Democrats.
How many times can you bear to watch the Harlem Globetrotters vs Washington Generals before you figure out it's rigged?
The grand old party is dead...it died when rommeny lost..now it ths GOP the
Grand Originalist Party neo-cons not welcomed are wanted...
keylay31
02-22-2013, 01:25
I'd be up for Chris Holbert... you're talking about him, right?
Chris Holbert posts on this board?!
Chris Holbert posts on this board?!
He's made a few posts in the past... Smart guy, and I've never heard of him until this whole gun debate came up. Kinda makes me want to move to Parker.
Someone electable.
That'd suffice. Someone "good" is probably too much to ask for, so a simple 'win' would be nice. Oh, and no dynastic candidates: I think the country has had enough Clintons and enough Bushes in the White House.
liberty19
02-26-2013, 10:45
Rand Paul. We need someone who will uphold the Constitution as all have sworn to do. I think Rand is our best bet at this time but I think his odds are not good because he will aggravate the GOP with his good qualities.
milwaukeeshaker
02-26-2013, 10:50
Libertarian candidate, etc. Any candidate EXCEPT the same old Republican/ Democrat thieves, liars, and scumbags.
Goodburbon
02-26-2013, 12:29
If the Republican party brings in True conservative Libertarian candidates I will be brought back in as well.
If the Republican party brings in another religious, anti gay, anti liberty, moralistic character I will watch the party die while pulling the handle for a Libertarian.
If the Republican party brings in True conservative Libertarian candidates I will be brought back in as well.
If the Republican party brings in another religious, anti gay, anti liberty, moralistic character I will watch the party die while pulling the handle for a Libertarian.
This! I fear that's what may happen. O'Reilly was talking about it the other night, that the Republican party wasn't dying... what he doesn't see is that perhaps not, it may not be dying but the libertarian ideals are swelling within the party now. I know more L's that vote R when they have to than D. I think if we can get a Conservative Libertarian in the mix they have a real shot in '16.
Rust_shackleford
02-26-2013, 14:54
GOP is dead
KestrelBike
02-26-2013, 22:34
Rand and Rubio would make a good ticket
I think this is our only hope. Even then, it's going to be one MOFO'in stacked deck against us in the media. 2014 and 2016 will perhaps be the most important 2 years for the country in the past 7 decades.
milwaukeeshaker
02-27-2013, 13:49
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, that's what everybody said about the last election. "Most important election ever", "gotta get a Repub", "can't waste vote on other parties", yadda, yadda, yadda, etc., etc. And, surprize!! Look who we got. It's all B.S. Until the American public gets smart enough to ditch the current two gangs. It will be more of the same. I'm not holding my breath, hell half of you on this site would vote the Repubs in tomorrow!
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, that's what everybody said about the last election. "Most important election ever", "gotta get a Repub", "can't waste vote on other parties", yadda, yadda, yadda, etc., etc. And, surprize!! Look who we got. It's all B.S. Until the American public gets smart enough to ditch the current two gangs. It will be more of the same. I'm not holding my breath, hell half of you on this site would vote the Repubs in tomorrow!
If they stood on the princapals of converstivism, and not a bunch of RINOs then why not?
milwaukeeshaker
02-28-2013, 09:35
If they stood on the princapals of converstivism, and not a bunch of RINOs then why not?
When is the last time you've seen any real conservatism from the Repubs? Name me one time when the Repubs have been put back in power after the Dems were the majority and those same Dems had passed a bunch of unconstitutional laws, tell me when the Repubs even tried to get rid of those laws? No, the Repubs are just Dem light, both parties are really the same, they have the same hidden agenda, when they are in the backroom with the doors closed and cameras off these jerks are clapping each other on the back and shaking hands while they steal our freedom and commit treason every day.
Singlestack
02-28-2013, 11:20
^^^^ This. +1
I can't think of anyone out there at the moment other than Gary Johnson.. He has a proven track record and is not a nut case.
Goodburbon
02-28-2013, 11:57
exactly, republicans never fixed the budget, fixed the illegal immigration problem. they passed the freedom stealing patriot act. they have never fixed anything. they are one in the same with their democrap buddies. all politicians are the devil.
Not to mention, they were voted in on a groundswell of support after the first AWB, and did NOTHING about the AWB until it expired on it's own. You can bet your life that if they had actually had to take positive action against the AWB, and had not had an automatic expiration we would still be living under it.
Gutless, spineless, worthless party that betrays their core principals in order to achieve "compromise": the GOP.
But they're the only alternative if you don't want "O"
Are they really? Or are you all just convinced that they are, fulfilling your own prophecy.
I can't think of anyone out there at the moment other than Gary Johnson.. He has a proven track record and is not a nut case.
ron and rand paul?
SenHolbert
03-02-2013, 05:40
Sorry, I'm not of eligible president age yet... [Coffee]
I'd be up for Chris Holbert... you're talking about him, right?
--
Originally Posted by sniper7
How about a young guy out of Colorado, who happens to post on this board. His vp wold be Ted Nugent. Together we would make shit happen!
--
Ronin13, sniper7, et al,
Thanks for the honorable mention, but I see a couple of problems with me being included. First, my position on protecting Life would very likely frustrate Ronin13. Second, at 52, I'm not all that young ;-}. Third, there are two political offices for which I will never run: Governor of Colorado and/or President of the United States. I don't want to be either, ever. Yeah, the suggestion of Ted Nugent as VP got my attention (Summer of '79 at Mile High Stadium), but... no.
My pick didn't and apparently won't run. That is, Senator Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina), but he left the US Senate and is now running the Heritage Foundation. So... yeah, Senator Rand Paul would probably be my next pick.
Thanks for the mention.
- Chris
Goodburbon
03-02-2013, 07:54
Hahahahahahaha
Ronin13, sniper7, et al,
Thanks for the honorable mention, but I see a couple of problems with me being included. First, my position on protecting Life would very likely frustrate Ronin13. Second, at 52, I'm not all that young ;-}. Third, there are two political offices for which I will never run: Governor of Colorado and/or President of the United States. I don't want to be either, ever. Yeah, the suggestion of Ted Nugent as VP got my attention (Summer of '79 at Mile High Stadium), but... no.
My pick didn't and apparently won't run. That is, Senator Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina), but he left the US Senate and is now running the Heritage Foundation. So... yeah, Senator Rand Paul would probably be my next pick.
Thanks for the mention.
- Chris
I'm not sure your position on protecting life would frustrate me... Besides, in the grand scheme of things, your position on the Second Amendment needs to be infectious... if just a handful of CO Dems in the General Assembly thought the same way you did these bills wouldn't be in the works right now. But I'm glad you have no desire to be Governor or President, it shows you recognize the issues with the job and most probably don't want the job when they really sit and think about it, I know I wouldn't.
ron and rand paul?
They have already been made out to be crazy by the mass media and haven't really done anything other than sit in congress.. Gary has a clean record with the media and as a governor he has clear results of decreasing a deficit, creating a surplus and was re-elected and popular in his home state despite his record number of vetoes and the left's complaints that the sky would/was falling.
PugnacAutMortem
03-04-2013, 11:18
If the Republican party brings in True conservative Libertarian candidates I will be brought back in as well.
If the Republican party brings in another religious, anti gay, anti liberty, moralistic character I will watch the party die while pulling the handle for a Libertarian.
+753,543,536,524
It won't happen, but that is the only way the GOP is going to ever win an election ever again. Basically what is going to have to happen is the GOP and the Libertarian party are going to have to switch places. If every election was Libertarian/Democrat, this country would be a HELL of a lot further along.
If the Republican party brings in True conservative Libertarian candidates I will be brought back in as well.
If the Republican party brings in another religious, anti gay, anti liberty, moralistic character I will watch the party die while pulling the handle for a Libertarian.
+1..
The whackjob R idiot that came out said there is a case for "Legitimate Rape" lost it for the party.. the second that came out it was all over. Sadly, so far I can't even think of a good prominent R in Colorado that could run against Hickenlooper even with the added 2nd amendment issue.
+1..
The whackjob R idiot that came out said there is a case for "Legitimate Rape" lost it for the party.. the second that came out it was all over. Sadly, so far I can't even think of a good prominent R in Colorado that could run against Hickenlooper even with the added 2nd amendment issue.
I actually think that the party was lost after that 47% comment...
I'm inclined to agree with HBAR- we're beyond bingo fuel right now in terms of voting... And I'm not sure how to fix it, either.
i cant imagine why the 50+ percent who voted for obama twice would ever vote republican again. why would people switch from the democrats to a party that wants to legislate morality in everything? the republican party is dead.
and I cant imagine why the 50+ percent who voted for obama would ever vote libertarian. they obviously think we need government to control all aspects of our lives (except abortion and who we sleep with). why would these people vote to make the government smaller? why would they like less hand outs?
the country is finished. or at least the slide to death is inevitable.
Maybe so but you have to remember that only 57% of all eligible voters went to the polls. Inspire just a fraction of those people to get out of the house and you have it made. It doesn't take a majority percentage to win an election. There will not be any incumbents in the next election so it's a clean slate.
I actually think that the party was lost after that 47% comment...
I'm inclined to agree with HBAR- we're beyond bingo fuel right now in terms of voting... And I'm not sure how to fix it, either.
Yeah, that didn't help at all. :D
They have already been made out to be crazy by the mass media and haven't really done anything other than sit in congress.. Gary has a clean record with the media and as a governor he has clear results of decreasing a deficit, creating a surplus and was re-elected and popular in his home state despite his record number of vetoes and the left's complaints that the sky would/was falling.
You mean the media has a Liberal slant to it? I AM SHOCKED!
Rand Paul is our best bet, lots of fans on that are indapandent, and even alot of left wingers....which would take a lot of win out of what ever leftard is running...
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You mean the media has a Liberal slant to it? I AM SHOCKED! Rand Paul is our best bet, lots of fans on that are indapandent, and even alot of left wingers....which would take a lot of win out of what ever leftard is running...So where is there an unbiased news source? That does not exist, period. You can get to the truth if you are diligent in sifting through the lies and mis-truths, but 99% of people do not care to do that or are too lazy or stupid to bother. And as long as the major 2 keep throwing the ridiculous amount of money at these elections, we are guaranteed to have another puppet running shit into the ground. The only difference will be which issues are under attack while they are there.</p>
valid point..but low and no info voters are a real problem..
Barring some absolute CATASTROPHE Hillary is going to run and its gonna be a mofo landslide unfortunately me thinks.
Sharpienads
03-10-2013, 11:12
Barring some absolute CATASTROPHE Hillary is going to run and its gonna be a mofo landslide unfortunately me thinks.
Ewww, gross.
flan7211
03-10-2013, 12:12
Rand or Cruz.
Barring some absolute CATASTROPHE Hillary is going to run and its gonna be a mofo landslide unfortunately me thinks.
Compared to who we have now she would probably be further to the right than Romney was. At least Bill knows better now than to go after the guns.
lowspeed_highdrag
03-10-2013, 19:19
Rand/Cruz
Barring some absolute CATASTROPHE Hillary is going to run and its gonna be a mofo landslide unfortunately me thinks.
they will have to run on the economey...which will not be better by then..that and the backlash over the debt, and the even greater cluster-fuck the Obamacare will become. what ever dem will come to the ticket will need all the help the liberal media can give them...they will need it..
Rand/Cruz
Cruz was born in Canada, right?
Sharpienads
03-11-2013, 10:35
Cruz was born in Canada, right?
Yes, he was. But his parents are both US citizens I believe. I don't know if that disqualifies him or not. Time to start doing some learnin'.
Yes, he was. But his parents are both US citizens I believe. I don't know if that disqualifies him or not. Time to start doing some learnin'.He was on the radio last week and stated unequivicolly that he was born a US citizen despite being in Canada. Non-issue
Rucker61
03-11-2013, 11:53
Yes, he was. But his parents are both US citizens I believe. I don't know if that disqualifies him or not. Time to start doing some learnin'.
Both of my little brothers were born in Germany while my father was stationed there. Knowing that either of those two are eliglble to become President frightens me.
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