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Wondering if there is a way around getting rid of any existing hi-cap by either plugging them or riveting them to make them not hold more than whatever limit they come up with if it comes to that. Just like shotguns that can hold more than 3 rounds but are legal to hunt with if you have a plug in them.
I am hoping there is a legal way to alter a mag in the eyes of the bill.
Maybe some of you Calif guys have come up against this question before.
If SHTF day ever comes and the Space people come to take us over or Zombies rise then the rivet(s) can be driven out or the plug removed.
R2Chief2
02-16-2013, 10:19
Just buy more 10 round mags and save the 30 rounders.
I thought the 30 round mags would be grandfathered in anyway
Well some people are saying they "may" be but then you would need to prove that you bought them prior to the bill and there is really no way to do that if there are not serial numbers on each one and you kept the receipt for each and everything you bought.
newracer
02-16-2013, 11:52
WTF are you talking about? The current Colorado bill allows you to keep your current mags no matter the capacity.
Or just send them to me.
Great-Kazoo
02-16-2013, 12:00
WTF are you talking about? The current Colorado bill allows you to keep your current mags no matter the capacity.
Or just send them to me.
No shit. The needless panicking because no one knows how the law is going to read in it's final version is insane. keep what you have DO NOT alter anything. By doing so you not only cave in to an unenforceable law you also show a mentality that leans towards COMPLIANCE / no issue with it.
I'm not panicking :) I have been reading in the General forum though and not everyone seems to think the same way. This was more of a non panic thread. Why you wouldn't even need to worry about it if they didn't let you keep them if you could easily alter them and still be okay.
Busta Prima
02-16-2013, 12:37
No shit. The needless panicking because no one knows how the law is going to read in it's final version is insane. keep what you have DO NOT alter anything. By doing so you not only cave in to an unenforceable law you also show a mentality that leans towards COMPLIANCE / no issue with it.
I agree 100%
About the hunting part though, I believe a physically blocked mag satisfies the law. If you're stopped by a conservation officer and they can fit one round over the limit in your mag, you're in deep kimshee. I don't believe they care what it holds without the block. Disclaimer: This is info from many years and many states ago so check first to be sure.
If its a pmag that's should be enough proff
This shit still needs to pass the state Senate and then the Govenors desk to become law. Like the others have said, if you're freaking out now about your 30rd mags, don't fuck them up give them to us.
Actually its not just about my AR-15 mags. And once again, I'm not freaking out and I'm not planning on leaving the state either like some others are talking about :)
Are you planning on hunting with some of these higher cap mags?
Hmm, maybe I should have asked a different question. I am planning on going to Calif. I only have one magazine for my SR9 pistol and its larger than 10 rounds. If I plug it by taking the mag apart and placing a plug in it then is that legal since it now takes disassembly to make it capable of holding more than 10 rounds. There isn't a category for SR9 magazines on here so thought I would ask here.
hghclsswhitetrsh
02-16-2013, 15:27
What's a hi cap mag?
Well in Calif its anything more than 10 evidently.
Great-Kazoo
02-16-2013, 18:40
Well in Calif its anything more than 10 evidently.
Only if you are a resident or have intent to sell in CA. Your biggest mistake was posting on line your intent to bring a hand gun to CA.
I am hoping there is a legal way to alter a mag in the eyes of the bill.
^This is what you asked regarding the new law. ^
Yeah, the answer I was hoping to get is no different no matter what state you are talking about or what firearm you are talking about. Taking an "approved" pistol to Calif to attend a class or use in a match is still legal as far as I know.
Only if you are a resident or have intent to sell in CA. Your biggest mistake was posting on line your intent to bring a hand gun to CA.
I am hoping there is a legal way to alter a mag in the eyes of the bill.
^This is what you asked regarding the new law. ^
To answer the original posters question-
It will depend on what the law says. The provision of the lapsed federal law that banned mags over 10 or 20 rounds was written so that the manufacturers could not make a magazine that could be converted to the larger capacity. It did not permit removable plugs or rivets or similar things. I don't remember if it was different for an individual to legally convert a mag to a lower capacity.
For speculating right now I would look at both ways of converting mags, permanent irreversible changes and easily reversible reduction methods. We won't know what the laws will be until they are passed and signed into law. This is at both state and federal level.
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