Law Enforcement “Requested” Shooting Targets of Pregnant Women

[10mm-man]

I know it's infowars but the MSM isn't going to report it......


Mod edit (foxtrot) I'm removing the infowars links.. Again, the more people link to AJ the more it helps his credibility. Lets not hurt our own cause. For DMCA issues after removing links, I had to remove content. I'm not locking the thread. If anyone cares, they can go to AJ's site and search for the article. This is the same guy reporting on "Super Thermite" WTC conspiracy garbage. Sorry to be a pain in the ass, its somewhat unofficial rule. If you can find any other link to a site not associated with AJ feel free to post it-- Foxtrot (http://www.infowars.com/law-enforcement-requested-shooting-targets-of-pregnant-women/)

[lpgasman]

Where is the outrage?! That is very disturbing.

[blacklabel]

Well that's kind of jacked up.

[Tinelement]

Real nice! Little boy has to be wearing a Badgers hoodie!

Dont really see the issue. Anyone at anytime can be a threat. Distasteful, yes.

[merl]

if you think about it, there may not be a baby in that lump but 30# of C4. Though thats the kind of training they need in Pakistan, not here.
Just remember this next time you hear news vilifying human silhouette targets.

[KestrelBike]

if you think about it, there may not be a baby in that lump but 30# of C4. Though thats the kind of training they need in Pakistan, not here.
Just remember this next time you hear news vilifying human silhouette targets.

+ check out those dreadlocks. Stoner for sure!

[Troublco]

I really don't see a legitimate need for these, unless you're trying to desensitize the FEMA corps...or finish desensitizing them.

[Fmedges]

Somebody's kid got an awesome modeling job hahahahaha

[Jesus-With-A-.45]

Save a tree & shot a liberal.


j/k, why can't we all just get along........peace, love, free sex, drugs & all that jazz.

[68Charger]

I'm disturbed by " infow###.com" being in the URL...

Alex Jones is a liar/propagandist in the other direction- but no better than the Administration... when he's willing to be honest and logical about his "conspiracies", then I'll stop ignoring them.

[sniper7]

I find the whole thing racist that they are all white people.

[Flatline]

I find the whole thing racist that they are all white people.

Something something.... no hesitation as it is... something

*the above is not indicative of my personal beliefs

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

I find the whole thing racist that they are all white people.

Stole the words out of my fingers.

If I had a shooting target it'd look just like...

[275RLTW]

if you think about it, there may not be a baby in that lump but 30# of C4. Though thats the kind of training they need in Pakistan, not here.
Just remember this next time you hear news vilifying human silhouette targets.

Only a matter of time...Nice to see PD finally taking steps to better train officers with these targets. The first time they see a threat like that and have to fix their OODA loop, it shouldn't be in a real house. Now for them to start using role players like that in FoF scenarios and other training events.

[Kraven251]

If you see two of those targets, you are probably already shot.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Does that "older man with shotgun" look somewhat similar to a member on this forum?

[sellersm]

Infowars is just repeating the story, it's all over the Internet.

Here is LETarget's response:

"The subjects in NMH targets were chosen in order to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training. I found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty). This hesitation time may be only seconds but that is not acceptable when officers are losing their lives in these same situations. The goal of NMH is to break that stereotype on the range, regardless of how slim the chances are of encountering a real life scenario that involves a child, pregnant woman, etc. If that initial hesitation time can be cut down due to range experience, the officer and community are better served."

Here's another source: http://www.tennesseesonsofliberty.com/2013/02/no-more-hesitation-police-targets.html

[mobbs]

Personally, I prefer targets of toddlers and infants. But pregnant chicks will do for now.

[bryjcom]

There nothing better than a day at the range, shooting targets of 6 year old boys. Man... makes me wish we had some targets of some mentally retarded kids to shoot. That would be even more fun.

Ohhh!! I know. How about an infant or even a fetus. That would be good shooting...

[theGinsue]

I really don't see a legitimate need for these, unless you're trying to desensitize the FEMA corps...or finish desensitizing them.
BINGO! We have a winner.

[zteknik]

There nothing better than a day at the range, shooting targets of 6 year old boys. Man... makes me wish we had some targets of some mentally retarded kids to shoot. That would be even more fun.

Ohhh!! I know. How about an infant or even a fetus. That would be good shooting...

After all if it saves just one child......

[275RLTW]

There nothing better than a day at the range, shooting targets of 6 year old boys. Man... makes me wish we had some targets of some mentally retarded kids to shoot. That would be even more fun.


Shooters in Active Shooter events are not limited to just adults that are not pregnant or old. Do you think Jeffco S.O. had to rethink their practices and training methods after Columbine and having kids as targets? Of course they did. I pray that an officer never has to see a target like these however when an officer does have to get a sight picture on a threat like this, he doen't have to think about it and solves the problem. It may be my kids, or yours that depends on it. No one had any issues with pictures of Sadam, UBL, or even putting up pictures of POTUS as "threats" even though they would never go to the middle east. Now people here of all places, are bitching about the realities of possible current threats here? Hypocrites. Go back to playing with your unicorns and dining with Hickenlooper.

[10mm-man]

Shooters in Active Shooter events are not limited to just adults that are not pregnant or old. Do you think Jeffco S.O. had to rethink their practices and training methods after Columbine and having kids as targets? Of course they did. I pray that an officer never has to see a target like these however when an officer does have to get a sight picture on a threat like this, he doen't have to think about it and solves the problem. It may be my kids, or yours that depends on it. No one had any issues with pictures of Sadam, UBL, or even putting up pictures of POTUS as "threats" even though they would never go to the middle east. Now people here of all places, are bitching about the realities of possible current threats here? Hypocrites. Go back to playing with your unicorns and dining with Hickenlooper.


Except FEMA is the one who ordered $2million dollars worth along with, M16's, Billions of rounds, coffins, etc..... Just doesn't smell right!

[275RLTW]

Except FEMA is the one who ordered $2million dollars worth along with, M16's, Billions of rounds, coffins, etc..... Just doesn't smell right!

Remember Hurricane Katrina & the chaos in N.O. afterwards? I remember being required to have people pulling security on locals while I pulled bodies out of the water. Desperate people will do desperate things, regardless of age, physical condition, or pregnant. People bitched about Blackwater being on the ground there to keep personnel & food safe; all paid for by FEMA. They are just doing their job and preparing for the next crisis based upon their past experiences and cutting out the security companies and outside labor everyone was complaining about.

[lead_magnet]

Holy shit, I may agree with ColoCCW on something. Dividing by zero. . .

I read this story yesterday and this is old news, a lot of those targets, especially the pregnant gal have been around forever. Here's my short response.

So. F**kin. What.

I fielded those VERY targets this weekend for a CQB class to help teach discrimination skills using drill I learned at CSAT back in 2009. I paint the hands grey then replace them with full color props such as cell phones, beer bottles, tools, guns, flashlights, knives, etc. The target may also have badges on neck chains or clipped to the belt.

This teaches the student to look at the whole person, then hands, waistline and immediate area/demeanor before firing.

As Paul points out, a 10yo with an unzero'd AK can kill you just as dead as a steely eyed soldier. Danger comes in a lotta forms, including females, old, young and even psycho pregnant women. These targets have tremendous teaching value. Loosen your tinfoil, its cutting off circulation.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PREGNANT CHICK IS HISPANIC. There are also black and other ethnic targets as well.

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^This

I remember encountering a pregnant woman target while I was in the academy. My wife was pregnant at the time which is kinda weird. She was pointed a revolver at me so I shot her, oddly enough I remember thinking "just don't shoot the belly" and both my rounds struck her in the chest slightly higher than center of mass. It didn't cause me to hesitate, everything flowed correctly, saw a person, looked at the hands and saw the threat as I was "sighting in" for lack of a better term I made a semi-conscience decision to avoid the belly.

The purpose of the target is to get your out of the mindset that all bad guys will look like two pac or a hell's angel. They even used the same targets with different objects in the hands so you couldn't make your decision based on the person, you had to chose based on what they were doing.

If you always use the same evil looking guy for a target you might have trouble shooting someone who looks "normal"

Think about what you guys are REALLY saying when you call these targets out of line. It's along the lines of "it doesn't matter what the person is doing, it's all about what they look like, or if they have a medical condition". So cops shouldn't train to shoot kids? Who tends to do the school shootings, herm...lemme think...students the same age of the other KIDS you're trying to save.

Yeah the cold hard truth hurts, but don't hide your eyes from it.

[clublights]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRXNNqNfQBs

[68Charger]

Except FEMA is the one who ordered $2million dollars worth along with, M16's, Billions of rounds, coffins, etc..... Just doesn't smell right!

Its the "billions of rounds" that didn't smell right... Jones is either really bad at math, or running a propaganda campaign[dig]

Investigated it myself, he manipulated the numbers on a RFQ for 240,000 rounds into 21.6 MILLION... So the 1.8B number he's throwing around now is more like 20M... But that's not scary enough to get his listeners to panic.
That story has been run elsewhere, too... But I usually am able to trace it back to something related to Mr. Jones.

For the record, I do think this one is legit, I'm just tired of lies.

[n8tive97]

I really don't see a legitimate need for these, unless you're trying to desensitize the FEMA corps...or finish desensitizing them.

I agree, I think you nailed it.

[alxone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRXNNqNfQBs[ROFL2][Beer]

[rondog]

Hey, if you're gonna train your stormtroopers to make war on The Citizens, you need targets of Citizens, yes? I bet Hitler and Stalin would have LOVED to have Citizen targets to use, but they would have all been unarmed, of course.

[Dave_L]

I have lots of different targets for practice. Anything ranging from bad dudes hiding behind a couch, someone with a hostage up to a police officer. Like others said, I want to practice target control. Not just "see something move and shoot at it". Scan, recognize, neutralize.

[TDYRanger]

The targets are called "no more hesitation targets" the are specifically designed to train cops to not hesitate to pull the trigger on any one any age. It should scare the shit out of us that cops are being conditioned to kill anybody without hesitation. The Army doesn't even use shit like that.

[275RLTW]

The Army doesn't even use shit like that.



Yes they do & have been for years... We use females for FoF with the Air Force now (Yes, I know...Air Force. They do scream like a little girl when they get hit witn sim rounds.)

[10mm-man]

Don't be alarmed people, take the tin foil off! Nevermind Obama's mentor talked about it in the past;

http://www.naturalnews.com/039177_gun_range_targets_pregnant_women_Homeland_S ecurity.html



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[10mm-man]

we don't need this ass-clown having any more $ or respect and showing up on news reports with quotes such as (his actual quote to the news when 3 Phili cops were murdered by a paranoid idiot.)

@ questions;

1.Why?

I never listened to him but are you saying he isn't credible at all? And if so once again why?

Edit; started at the back didn't see you erased the front link. So I read it and understand why you did it.

Can you put this link in place of it? Or does it need to be from a "credible" source like CNN, FOX, CBS?

http://www.naturalnews.com/039177_gun_range_targets_pregnant_women_Homeland_S ecurity.html

Thanks,