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Singlestack
02-22-2013, 07:17
I was able to pass the Technician and General tests Wed night, and just missed the Extra class license. Have a Baofeng UV-5R handheld arriving in a few days; ought to be fun. I don't really consider myself to be a "ham", per se, but wanted some options to communicate if cell phones and landlines are down in an emergency. Thinking some of these modes might be useful for forum members to stay in Comm.
Congrats! Been studying myself...just can't seem to get time to take the test....long drive for me. This topic came up at this weeks team meet. A lot of interest on the comms angle. Post your call sign when available.
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streetglideok
02-22-2013, 08:00
Congrats on getting your ticket. I passed my tech, then upgraded last year to general, wife has her tech. Even if you don't consider yourself a ham, you'll want to learn how to use the radios effectively, how to get into repeaters if need be, and a basic understanding of nets. You'd be amazed how many struggle setting their radio up for repeater use, and you don't want to find out where you're lacking at when the chips are down.
Damnit I need to do mine. Now that I have finished one of my other certifications I need to knock this out. Thank you for the reminder.
Singlestack
02-23-2013, 11:06
Going to Ham Radio outlet on Iliff in a few minutes. One of the guys who works there (Russ) I think lives in Elizabeth and is the comms expert for the prepper group he belongs to. He suggested the ARRL Technician level study guide for me, which I picked up. He didn't recommend the General book as much - said if I just take the General practice exams on line (EHams, for example), Id be fine if I did a good reading of the Tech book - which I did. If he is there today, going now to ask him what the next step is for me. I really don't care about all of the traditional ham stuff - contests, making friends around the world, etc. More concerned about SHTF comms.
One area that did concern me a bit was about RDF (radio direction finding), which the ham community has some contests around and also uses to track down "offending transmitters". In times of peace, thats all fine and good, but in SHTF has some dangerous applications...nuff said.
I should have my call sign in a week or so, which I'll post.
Congratulations, Singlestack. Not one myself, but can definitely see the value of it.
Singlestack
02-23-2013, 15:26
Thanks Sroz. BTW, becoming a ham is pretty darn cheap. The exam (however many you are able to pass in one sitting) costs $14. The radio (Baofeng UV-5R) with accessories (antenna upgrade, additional high capacity battery pack, rainproof speaker mic with cord, USB programming cable) cost $114. Then this morning bought an up-to-date sheet with all of the state of CO repeaters on it ($3). Thats $131 for everything, including tax and shipping.
Russ at Ham Radio outlet said that he would be happy to talk to any of you guys looking to get into ham and walk you through what you need to do. Although I went the cheap route on the radio, Russ does recommend some better Yaesu models that they carry at the store. I wanted to go cheap, since I didn't want a lot invested if for some reason it wasn't for me.
One thing he suggested was starting a COAR-15 radio net and prepare to use it if SHTF. Might be useful to find out who is interested, and maybe schedule a meeting to figure out how involved people want to get and what the net should be used for.
streetglideok
02-23-2013, 15:55
One thing he suggested was starting a COAR-15 radio net and prepare to use it if SHTF. Might be useful to find out who is interested, and maybe schedule a meeting to figure out how involved people want to get and what the net should be used for.
This is probably a really good idea if you ask me. There are some nets on HF with the arfcom people, that you'd need a general or higher to do. I myself have a pair of 2m mobiles, one of which is mounted in my jeep, and then I have a yaesu ft60r handheld. Once you start using the radios, you'll realize the benefits of having a handheld, and the disadvantages as well. There are several linked repeaters in the area as well, the colorado connection group has a bunch of linked sites. The only bad thing is, and this has come up in ares, they rely on internet service to link the sites. What happens if or when the net goes down? Food for thought.
streetglideok
02-23-2013, 16:11
Also, the FCC can use the same directional finding as well, its pretty basic stuff, and in a shtf situation, something you'd want to know how to do as well. I wouldn't be worried about hams hunting you down, unless you're on the air causing mayhem.
One thing he suggested was starting a COAR-15 radio net and prepare to use it if SHTF. Might be useful to find out who is interested, and maybe schedule a meeting to figure out how involved people want to get and what the net should be used for.
That is a good idea. I'm interested.
Interesting.
I just got a Yaesu VX-170 HT, off another list, earlier this week. No ticket yet.
Not really into the ham culture/society. I had some friends get into 2 meter radios a few years back. I was interested at the time because there was no cell coverage up here. That has changed a little. There is better repeater coverage.
Yaesu definitely isn't the most user friendly radio for a newb. [BooHoo]
Congrats!
Sooner or later I'll take the test.come this summer I want to be able to have my ticket.
Being a former commo chief it shouldn't be all that hard for me.Just have to jar my memory a bit.
I allready have a couple of 2m rigs and a few handhelds(prc 127's ) I would love to get my hands on an Icom 700 series but that'll come later on.
streetglideok
02-24-2013, 20:40
qsl.fm has a database of repeaters that you can look up by state, and then by frequency bands. Denver has a 10m repeater, and three 6m repeaters, as well as the 2m and 440 repeaters. 10m repeaters require a general license to use, but when conditions are right, you can get alot of range with it. I'm no expert, but if we want to put together a net, we'd need permission of the repeater I would guess, perhaps Russ at HRO can help arrange something. Some of us who aren't in range of Denver's repeaters would likely want to participate. Granted, I can hear one of the Denver repeaters in the am here in the springs, but its weak, there's no way I can hit it from here reasonably. If you haven't already, try and get some of the local repeaters programmed in, and see if you can get it to work.
gnihcraes
02-24-2013, 23:13
Great to hear you passed, someday I'll upgrade.
My TIP for the radio setup: Program all local repeater frequencies into the radio that it will hold, and put them in frequency order. Makes it easy to move up or down to different repeaters as needed. Even if you pass into other areas of the state or other states, the repeater frequencies are usually duplicated, only differences would be a PL Tone to access. Include in the frequency list, all the simplex (non repeater) frequencies.
example order:
145.430
145.490- 100PL (denver radio club)
146.520 simplex
146.550 simplex
145.580 simplex
145.625
TIP #2: don't post your callsign on the internet anywhere. Once you do, anyone can find your name, address etc. Once posted on here, they will also have that associated with your user id. (they being = criminals or whoever)
TIP #3: buy a radio that will allow computer programming capability. Much easier to hook the radio to a laptop and download your custom database list of frequencies. Also can use to program a friends radio of the same make/model.
gnihcraes / KB0***
Been a ham since 1993 here. Would love to help AR-15.co guys with this if they have any questions. And yeah, keep your call to yourself. Don't need to let the internet know that you have expensive guns *and* radios. :)
An AR-15.co net would be an interesting thing to organize, hmm...
Been a ham since 1993 here. Would love to help AR-15.co guys with this if they have any questions. And yeah, keep your call to yourself. Don't need to let the internet know that you have expensive guns *and* radios. :)
An AR-15.co net would be an interesting thing to organize, hmm...
Allways remember OPSEC..
A coar15 net would be kinda neat!You could probably run a small scale one wthout a repeater.
I know some repeaters use to allot some net time to certain clubs/organizations,dunno if they do that out here.
We could allways start our own repeater...(nice to dream :) )
USAFGopherMike
02-25-2013, 03:22
I was into HAM radio as a kid on a small scale (novice) with my Dad but let my ticket lapse. Would it be possible to get my old callsign back? Have the requirements changed for testing? Back in the day, I struggled with the morse. I heard it's not required anymore. Is Kenwood still making radios? Icom rings a bell. There's a guy on 14 with a huge tower setup I pass on my way out to my sites. I'd love to get back into it.
streetglideok
02-25-2013, 07:58
They've redone the tests, no morse code for any of the licenses now. They don't issue the novice anymore, the only ones out there are grandfathered, just like the advanced, so I don't see you getting your old sign back. Study up for the tech, and general if you can, and find a test session. Takes a week from the time you pass, and you have your new callsign.
gnihcraes
02-25-2013, 23:37
I personally would shy away from a CoAR15 ham net, especially if talking mostly about guns. Again, thieves listen in and gather up callsigns and magically your stuff disappears. Sucky thing about a public callsign. Hopefully they will change it somehow and keep things more private.
Singlestack
02-26-2013, 07:19
gnihcraes - I was thinking the net details don't appear here. Instead, those who are interested meet face-to-face somewhere and figure out under what conditions the net is established, frequencies/repeaters, and type of information communicated. No association with COAR-15 on the net. So if someone outside the group was either listening in or on this forum, they wouldn't be able to connect the two.
What would be ideal is something like eXRS, but with greater reach to include more of the state: http://www.trisquare.us/company.htm
streetglideok
02-26-2013, 08:13
One can use a PO box if there is a worry about thieves listening in. Singlestack, you are dead on, in that we should meet in person to plan out the net, and any other associated language. As for eXRS, there is Dstar, but there are limits to that as well, in that if there is a breakdown of the internet, you lose the linking.
USAFGopherMike
02-26-2013, 20:29
We need some secret code..... and a handshake.
streetglideok
02-26-2013, 20:45
We need some secret code..... and a handshake.
Put together a meeting, preferably a sunday, and we can discuss in person. Only suggestion, keep the invited list limited to active members, and if you guys are serious, lets move this to PMs
USAFGopherMike
02-26-2013, 20:53
Good idea. count me in.
gnihcraes
02-26-2013, 22:33
gnihcraes - I was thinking the net details don't appear here. Instead, those who are interested meet face-to-face somewhere and figure out under what conditions the net is established, frequencies/repeaters, and type of information communicated. No association with COAR-15 on the net. So if someone outside the group was either listening in or on this forum, they wouldn't be able to connect the two.
What would be ideal is something like eXRS, but with greater reach to include more of the state: http://www.trisquare.us/company.htm
Interesting radio's. My first glances at them and the radio band, makes me question the distance and reliability of it. 1 watt digital? 900mhz ISM Band? Interesting though. Worth messing with depending on the price of radios.
I'm down for a meet and greet most likely, just depends on location and time etc.
streetglideok
02-26-2013, 22:48
From what I've seen of the eXRS, they only work with each other, and not much power.
Singlestack
02-27-2013, 11:30
Interesting radio's. My first glances at them and the radio band, makes me question the distance and reliability of it. 1 watt digital? 900mhz ISM Band? Interesting though. Worth messing with depending on the price of radios.
I'm down for a meet and greet most likely, just depends on location and time etc.
I think of the eXRS as an improved FRS radio, and nothing more. They are short range radio with good private conversation capabilities. More of a tactical walkie talkie...
Sunday would work the best for me, as well.
streetglideok
02-27-2013, 12:34
PMs sent btw
enthusiast
02-27-2013, 14:32
I would be interested as well.
ChadAmberg
02-27-2013, 18:28
I'm in for a radio op meeting too...
I would definitly be interested!
Sunday would also work best for me as well.
The guys at the Springs could meet up and carpool in.
streetglideok
02-27-2013, 22:55
Theres a few of us in the Springs, and some in the Denver area, and the Ft Collins area. I think the metro area would be good central location, though I'm not sure what kind of numbers we are looking at, to figure out an exact location. So a sunday, in the denver area, with 10-15 people or thereabouts. I'm open to any suggestions or input.
Theres a few of us in the Springs, and some in the Denver area, and the Ft Collins area. I think the metro area would be good central location, though I'm not sure what kind of numbers we are looking at, to figure out an exact location. So a sunday, in the denver area, with 10-15 people or thereabouts. I'm open to any suggestions or input.
If it's on a Sunday I can probably travel as far as Fort Collins,providing that it's not held too early.
Around Denver sounds like a good central place.
And if you get bored during the week hit me with a pm.I'll be home most the week and I have a 2m setup that I need to punch in some freqs.
streetglideok
02-28-2013, 10:09
I'm off today actually, got some reloading to do some time today. Will have to flip on the radio in a bit.
Ok for those interested, I believe *******. Thats a week from this sunday. Scratch the 10th, too soon/other obligations. Is that going to be enough notice for everyone? Please PM me with ideas for a place to meet.
So far, I have these people interested:
Singlestack-newly minted general
gnihcraes- licensed ham
streetglide- licensed general
zteknik- interested
ChadAmberg-interested
enthusiast- interested
driver - interested
USAFGopherMike- interested
Anyone else?
I have a huge honey do list today but I'll be sure to fire the rig up anyways. ;)
I wont be able to make it on the 10th,prior engagements..
Intereste can't make the 10th. Let my liscense expire long ago. Dug my old ft 101 e out last weekend and decided to get back into it. Might have to get somenew equip sounds like cw is dyeing
Singlestack
02-28-2013, 14:59
In Kalifornia on the 10th, but any other Sunday doable 4 me.
streetglideok
02-28-2013, 15:07
No problemo, scratch the 10th. Hows march 17th look?
No problemo, scratch the 10th. Hows march 17th look?
Blurry.
I'll give you a sec to think about it.
10mm-man
02-28-2013, 18:37
<p>
You all know that in an "Emergency " situation you don't the license to operate a ham or any FFC regulated radio correct?</p>
10mm-man
02-28-2013, 18:44
I'm off today actually, got some reloading to do some time today. Will have to flip on the radio in a bit. Ok for those interested, I believe *******. Thats a week from this sunday. Scratch the 10th, too soon/other obligations. Is that going to be enough notice for everyone? Please PM me with ideas for a place to meet. So far, I have these people interested: Singlestack-newly minted general gnihcraes- licensed ham streetglide- licensed general zteknik- licensed ham ChadAmberg-interested enthusiast- interested driver - interested USAFGopherMike- interested Anyone else?
Add me please...
I'm off today actually, got some reloading to do some time today. Will have to flip on the radio in a bit.
Ok for those interested, I believe *******. Thats a week from this sunday. Scratch the 10th, too soon/other obligations. Is that going to be enough notice for everyone? Please PM me with ideas for a place to meet.
So far, I have these people interested:
Singlestack-newly minted general
gnihcraes- licensed ham
streetglide- licensed general
zteknik- licensed ham
ChadAmberg-interested
enthusiast- interested
driver - interested
USAFGopherMike- interested
Anyone else?
Just to clarify and not misrepresent myself,I am not licensed as a ham yet.
Kind of classify me as an enthusiast,with experiance from the military(commo chief)
But I would like to get my card soon[Coffee]
streetglideok
02-28-2013, 20:28
<p>
You all know that in an "Emergency " situation you don't the license to operate a ham or any FFC regulated radio correct?</p>
In an emergency situation, and no other means exists that would get you help, then you don't need a license to request assistance on whatever frequency is most likely to get you help. Catch of that is, if you don't know how the things work well enough during non-stressful times, whats going to happen when its a real panty pissing emergency?lol.
I've allways had a rig in my vehicle.Even though I don't have a callsign I use it more like a scanner and listen in.
One time I broke down in the middle of no where and my cell was useless,so I got up on the net and did a general distress call,sure enough they were able to lend a hand and commended me on propper radio procedure :)
Even if you don't have a license yet it's still good to have a rig tuned in to listen how things work.After a while you do get the hang of it and when you do get the callsign it makes things a bit easier.
streetglideok
03-01-2013, 21:44
Well heck. I doubt we can throw a meeting together this sunday, unless someone wants to work on a location tommorow(I'll be at work). Otherwise, we can either disregard blarney stones and wear green on the 17th or push it out another week(march 24th).
We can discuss the pro's and cons of CBs, FRS, Ham, etc., as each has its good points and weak points. I have FRS as well as 2m radios here, and somewhere in storage in another state, a radio from my truck driving days, just as an example. I think if we can get a meeting together, we can develop some sort of plan that will work for us. If any of you are interested in getting a ham license, or after we meet you get the itch, then we can help you get there relatively painlessly.
hollohas
03-01-2013, 22:38
Guys, Why do they require a test and license?
Also, the book Patriots has some very detailed, LONG chapters on radio/ham/direction finding and how the Feds will use it to their advantage during SHTF.
gnihcraes
03-01-2013, 22:58
Guys, Why do they require a test and license?
Similar reasons there is a license for other things. Keeps the riff raff out and makes you have some knowledge of proper operations and use of the equipment. It's more for an emergency situation use, and it helps that everyone is educated to a specific level. (not that you remember it 15 years later...)
CB Radio was once licensed. My fathers call for CB was KAIJ5759 I believe.
streetglideok
03-01-2013, 23:03
Guys, Why do they require a test and license?
Also, the book Patriots has some very detailed, LONG chapters on radio/ham/direction finding and how the Feds will use it to their advantage during SHTF.
Because with the license, your regulated to up to 1500 watts on alot of the frequencies allowed. You can fry alot of brain cells if you aren't doing it right. You're also dealing with alot of frequency spectrum, and again, if you don't know what you are doing, you are going to cause interference. You're also in some cases, dealing with frequencies that propogate well past national borders, and there are international treaties that all parties abide by. If you dont want a license and want to play, FRS and CB is likely more your speed. Fox hunting is nothing new. Its a game to hams to sharpen their skills in finding violators. I believe its also on the test. It doesnt take much, heck I've done it with a CB in my semi to find an annoying trucker in a truck stop. Anyone with a basic understanding of radio can fox hunt. As long as you understand that, and how it's done, in a SHTF situation you can make it harder on them to find you.
ChadAmberg
03-02-2013, 11:30
Because with the license, your regulated to up to 1500 watts on alot of the frequencies allowed. You can fry alot of brain cells if you aren't doing it right. You're also dealing with alot of frequency spectrum, and again, if you don't know what you are doing, you are going to cause interference. You're also in some cases, dealing with frequencies that propogate well past national borders, and there are international treaties that all parties abide by. If you dont want a license and want to play, FRS and CB is likely more your speed. Fox hunting is nothing new. Its a game to hams to sharpen their skills in finding violators. I believe its also on the test. It doesnt take much, heck I've done it with a CB in my semi to find an annoying trucker in a truck stop. Anyone with a basic understanding of radio can fox hunt. As long as you understand that, and how it's done, in a SHTF situation you can make it harder on them to find you.
Also, there aren't enough feds with DF equipment to do crap now about violators, pirate radio stations, etc., let alone in a SHTF. Pirate radio stations stay online for months. Jackholes with illegal radios block frequencies for hours on end just to be a pain in the ass, there's hundreds of complaints, and yet in the entire country you find just 3-4 actions a month. In a SHTF, you would of course want to maintain radio discipline and not just shoot the shit for hours if you're trying to hide, but occasional quick transmissions for necessities is very unlikely to get you noticed unless you're doing many other things to get you noticed.
Singlestack
03-02-2013, 17:07
Say, do any of you guys have a CHIRP image file for a UV-5R with lots of the Colorado repeaters in it? That could save me a ton of time....
Say, do any of you guys have a CHIRP image file for a UV-5R with lots of the Colorado repeaters in it? That could save me a ton of time....
I dont have any,but you might be able to search for a torrent for one.
gnihcraes
03-02-2013, 22:02
Say, do any of you guys have a CHIRP image file for a UV-5R with lots of the Colorado repeaters in it? That could save me a ton of time....
I have a file for the original VX-5 Yaesu, not sure if it would help any? cut and paste maybe? I think I could create a text file list from mine.
streetglideok
03-03-2013, 09:49
Don't know if you guys have seen this site, but go to qsl.fm , it has repeaters by state.
Also as an update, has anyone given any thought about March 24th for a meeting?
How realistic would it be to have a station at home, then a mobile set-up in your vehicle?
gnihcraes
03-03-2013, 13:28
Don't know if you guys have seen this site, but go to qsl.fm , it has repeaters by state.
Also as an update, has anyone given any thought about March 24th for a meeting?
QSL isn't always accurate though, I believe it relies on the clubs to update them with any changes. Best to hit the local ham club wesites and pick up their listings.
CCARC is a great source too - they manage the frequencies in the state.
http://www.ccarc.net/wordpress/
They also have an updates PDF of the state repeaters:
http://www.ccarc.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/CCARC-Map-April-2009.pdf
examples...
Aurora Repeater Assoc
Rocky Mountain Radio League
Boulder Radio Club
Denver Radio Club
streetglideok
03-03-2013, 13:35
How realistic would it be to have a station at home, then a mobile set-up in your vehicle?
I have a 2m mobile mounted in my jeep, a handheld ham radio, and then a 2m radio at home for use here, so pretty easily. Now some guys have the bigger base station radios that cover alot more frequencies at home, and one in their vehicle too. Not sure what kind of radios you would like to run, but there's nothing keeping you from multiple stations, except your wallet. In the case of a ham license, it goes with the user, not any one station. Hopefully that helps?
It does help, thank you. Could you use your mobile to communicate with someone in your vehicle?
streetglideok
03-03-2013, 15:37
Yep. My wife, who has her license as well, routinely talks to me, as I drive home from work at night. She uses the radio at home, or her hand held, and I use the radio in the jeep. All one has to do is dial in to the same repeater on both radios, or if close enough or where terrain permits, the same frequency for direct(simplex) communications. If colorado connections or colorado repeater association has their uplink working, I could turn it on right now and hit you on the radio.
streetglideok
03-04-2013, 12:40
Yeah the 160 machine down here is up and running now. Don't know if the link with Conifer mtn is working though.
I'm good with the 24th. Still good with the 17th but that doesn't sound like it's happening.
http://www.w0cra.org/new/
That page shows 145.160 is back up. I threw my antenna on my pick up this morning. I think 145.160 is programmed into my radio still. I'll try it on the way home tonight.
The 24th sounds good to me.I should be free that day,but depending on finances I don't know if I will be able to make it (still waiting on start day for work)
Does anybody have a link to the local repeater freqs. so I can try and reprogram my 2m?
streetglideok
03-04-2013, 16:47
Yeah I can help you with that.
http://www.qsl.net/cmrg/ cheyenne mtn repeater group.
http://www.colcon.org/ colorado connection repeaters
and the CRA, colorado repeater association, the link for that is in your last post, in the quote.
145.160 and 145.130 were both linked with Denver, but dont know if its working or not. 160 just came back online, so not alot of activity on it. You'll hear some on the cmrg 345 machine, and some on the CC 130 machine.
Thanks[Beer]
Now to find where I put my manual for my rig..[Dunno]
streetglideok
03-04-2013, 19:51
I'll see what I can do for a place march 24th then in the Denver metro area when I'm off this week. As soon as we have a place, I'll send a PM out, so please make sure your boxes have room.
gnihcraes
03-04-2013, 20:33
It does help, thank you. Could you use your mobile to communicate with someone in your vehicle?
Yep. Long as everyone has their license.
baglock1
03-05-2013, 15:10
This is something (get my license) that I've been meaning to do for awhile now. Can anyone recommend a good study guide available online for free? Conversely, do any of you guys have a recent study guide you'd be willing to sell?
streetglideok
03-05-2013, 20:24
ARRL puts out some study guides, and there are some online study guides as well. There used to be a decent one for the tech test online, but it looks like its gone now.
I actualy found my books at Barnes and Noble.
gnihcraes
03-05-2013, 22:37
Ham Radio Outlet will have a good selection of books, and good help to say which ones work best usually.
Always a good time drooling over the radios on display. "Candy Store"
HRO
8400 E Iliff Ave #9, Denver, CO 80231
(303) 745-7373
Does that place carry regular CB radio stuff as well? I've got to pick up a spring locally before this weekend.
Singlestack
03-06-2013, 14:17
Yahoo! Just saw my call sign posted on fcc.gov!!! Now to try a first transmission with my cheapo Baofeng UV-5R!!
I'm good for meeting any Sunday beginning with 3/17.
streetglideok
03-06-2013, 15:20
Yahoo! Just saw my call sign posted on fcc.gov!!! Now to try a first transmission with my cheapo Baofeng UV-5R!!
I'm good for meeting any Sunday beginning with 3/17.
Congrats. Hopefully you got an easy one to remember. At this point, it looks like the 24th, for meeting. I'm going to try and find a place to meet tomorrow, but if you know of a place, send me a PM. Have you figured out how to punch in repeaters, the tones, etc yet?
Singlestack
03-06-2013, 18:50
Congrats. Hopefully you got an easy one to remember. At this point, it looks like the 24th, for meeting. I'm going to try and find a place to meet tomorrow, but if you know of a place, send me a PM. Have you figured out how to punch in repeaters, the tones, etc yet?
I think so; the Yahoo UV-5R group was very helpful and broke down what I needed to do. Manual repeater entry is a PITA on the UV-5R, but the CHIRP S/W seems easy enough to set up. Of course, I'm not quite sure what the best repeaters are - all I know is who operates them and where they are by city. I probably have about 50 entered of the 128 total slots available.
gnihcraes
03-06-2013, 22:07
Yahoo! Just saw my call sign posted on fcc.gov!!! Now to try a first transmission with my cheapo Baofeng UV-5R!!
I'm good for meeting any Sunday beginning with 3/17.
You can try the 146.970- repeater in the springs. It's on top of Pikes Peak I believe, and if it works, I can probably talk back to you from Denver. With enough power etc.
streetglideok
03-06-2013, 23:05
146.970 is still down sadly. Really wish PPFM could get it back up and operational. I'm not as familiar with Denver repeaters, and where you're at Singlestack, I don't know if you can hit repeaters here in the springs or not with a handheld. There is a 440 repeater in Monument, but I can barely hit it with my handheld here at home. I have a bunch programmed into my radios, but there's only a few I actually use. Some repeaters work better than others, and some have no traffic on them. If you decide to try the springs repeaters, let me know, I'll listen for you.
10mm-man
03-07-2013, 00:46
I was able to pass the Technician and General tests Wed night, and just missed the Extra class license. Have a Baofeng UV-5R handheld arriving in a few days; ought to be fun. I don't really consider myself to be a "ham", per se, but wanted some options to communicate if cell phones and landlines are down in an emergency. Thinking some of these modes might be useful for forum members to stay in Comm.
How hard was the test? What did you do to prepare?
10mm-man
03-07-2013, 00:49
I'll see what I can do for a place march 24th then in the Denver metro area when I'm off this week. As soon as we have a place, I'll send a PM out, so please make sure your boxes have room.
Are you guys looking for a place to meet? I am in DTC- meeting room can hold 15-20..
10mm-man
03-07-2013, 00:51
panty pissing emergency?lol.
I don't have panies and I don't piss em...... I'm hard core! [Coffee]
Singlestack
03-07-2013, 07:58
How hard was the test? What did you do to prepare?
I thought the tests were easy. The electronics were all freshman electrical engineering (I'm one), so nothing more than a review for me. The antenna/bands stuff was new to me so I had to study that. I bought the Technician class ARRL study guide at Ham Radio Outlet, and read it front to back. Includes the entire 350 or so question pool. For general, all I did was take practice tests on eHam.com until I could regularly score 85% or better. The funny thing is I missed 2 questions on the tech exam - which I was better prepared for - but aced the general test. Took extra, and came up 2 answers short although I didn't study for it. The guys giving the test thought I could pass that with a little more study, but it really isn't very important to me. All of these tests can be passed by rote memorization, if you don't want to study the material. However, I think it is valuable to have a solid basic understanding to be able to problem solve if SHTF and other resources to help aren't available.
streetglideok
03-07-2013, 10:07
Are you guys looking for a place to meet? I am in DTC- meeting room can hold 15-20..
DTC?
streetglideok
03-07-2013, 11:38
Is there any time constraints on the 24th, as in, church in the am, or evening, etc? If everone is ok, I'm thinking mid-day?
Singlestack
03-07-2013, 17:09
works 4 me...
works 4 me...
Second that..[Beer]
gnihcraes
03-07-2013, 23:45
What is the meeting agenda? Just eyeball QSO?
streetglideok
03-08-2013, 08:02
What is the meeting agenda? Just eyeball QSO?
Probably be a variety of things, finding out who has what means, and develop a plan, etc?
streetglideok
03-08-2013, 22:26
Ok, check your PMs for updates. I'm open to any and all suggestions for what we can talk about. [Beer]
I've been trying to follow this thread but haven't been very diligent. Please bare with me if I ask questions that have already been answered.
#1 Is there anyone on this thread that works at HRO?
#2 Can a "newbie" attend the proposed meeting on the 24th?
I'm very interested in getting involved, but I'll admit, I'm a bit intimidated. Civil Engineering/Transportation Surveying background but I get lost when you guys start talking freqs, bands, or "2M" radios. Sorry, I don't know the difference between a 1M, 2M, or 8000M. That probably doesn't exist but I was just pointing to my stupidity on the subject.
Thx - Drew
baglock1
03-10-2013, 11:27
I'm very interested in getting involved, but I'll admit, I'm a bit intimidated. Civil Engineering/Transportation Surveying background but I get lost when you guys start talking freqs, bands, or "2M" radios. Sorry, I don't know the difference between a 1M, 2M, or 8000M. That probably doesn't exist but I was just pointing to my stupidity on the subject.
Hey Drew,
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm not licensed but I can answer some of these questions in a real general manner. Understanding however will only come through actually being involved in it. My knowledge comes from a really strong, albeit shallow, understanding of basic electronics and the RF spectrum.
Freqs refers to the specific frequency one is transceiving on.
Band refers to the specific section of the RF spectrum. For instance, when you are listening to the radio, it might be 102.3 Mhz (the frequency) on the FM band (a range of frequencies). Other bands (designated by their own specific range of frequencies) include HF (High Frequency), VHF (Very HF), or UHF (Ultra HF). These are just a few bands. There are many.
2M or 8M or whatever refers to a radio that is designed to receive/transmit on a specific category of wavelengths (inverse relationship to frequency). A 2M refers to 2 meters or a radio utilizing wavelengths in the 2 meter range (peak to peak of the wavelength is 2 meters long).
It can be confusing but once you start working with it a little it gets pretty easy to understand.
Whoa!!!
Should I get a study guide before I go to HRO or even open the HAM book?
Dang Badger football games on Saturday mornings?!?!!!? No wonder my parents were upset about those 6 years...
get the study book for the test, it does a good job of explaining most of it. You will need to know things like what a resistor looks like in a diagram etc, but it will show you, I believe a few of the books were listed by name earlier in the thread, they can be found at barnes and noble or hro.
Going to HRO this week for sure. Thanks for the input guys.
Can I go to the meeting on the 24th or should I wait until I have a better understanding?
Thx - Drew
streetglideok
03-10-2013, 13:46
Going to HRO this week for sure. Thanks for the input guys.
Can I go to the meeting on the 24th or should I wait until I have a better understanding?
Thx - Drew
Hey Drew,
I'd suggest doing some reading in the study guides, and talk to the guys at HRO as well. It'll help you understand what is being discussed and give you ideas of how you'd like to participate. If all goes well at the meeting, we'll likely have more meetings in the future, etc. and get you involved.
Baglock1 gave you a rundown of what we talk about. When we say 2m radios, we are talking about radios made to operate on the 2meter radio spectrum. The 2m is the wavelength, and is a guide to the frequency being used. In this case, 2m is the 144-146mhz band. The exact range is a little more than that but it puts you in the ballpark. 6m is the 50mhz range, and so on. If you're a mathnut, frequency is 300/wavelength. Its not deadnuts exact on the frequencies used, but close. One band that hams use, is more often referred to by the frequency than the wavelength, and that is the 75cm/440mhz band. Most just call it 440, and same goes with the 220/1.25m band as well, but thats not a real commonly used band. Part of the reason they use wavelengths instead of the frequencies, has to do with how many different bands are available. Its alot easier to say 6m, 10m, 12m, 15m, 20m, 17m, 30m, 60m, 160m than it is to call them by mhz. Read thru a study book, and it'll make alot more sense.
Boadie30
03-10-2013, 14:11
Go to QRZ.com, take the test over and over again... When you come across a question that you do not understand look it up in the book... Does not take very long even for the average person.
streetglideok
03-14-2013, 20:04
Far as I know, we are still on for the 24th just an fyi.
Marked on the callender,just need pm for meeting place and time.[Beer]
streetglideok
03-19-2013, 09:57
Just waiting on the final word from 10mm. Sounds like a few of us will be bringing some equip in, or have it in their vehicles to demonstrate.
gnihcraes
03-19-2013, 21:18
Yep, I can bring a handheld and a mobile setup. I'll see if I can get a mobile setup I loaned to a friend. It's easily mounted/dismounted.
I'm going to try and show up. I know next to nothing, but people can check out the CB radio set-up I have in my truck. It is the most basic of basic.
streetglideok
03-20-2013, 07:15
Sometimes simple and basic is better. But turn on channel 19 near a truck stop, and its an endless amount of insight into childish adults lol
welcome to the ham club you folks that passed! :)
(I'm N0NJY, if anyone has any questions. Amateur Extra Class licensee. Been involved in radios since I was 10 or so in one form or another. Military communications for 26 years. etc).
ChadAmberg
03-21-2013, 08:05
I'm really going to try to make it up there. FYI, I still have a ham rig for sale. More of a premium one than barebones cheapie, but if anyone is interested, I can bring it:
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/72885-FS-Mobile-ham-radio-rig-with-GPS-integration
losttrail
03-21-2013, 08:35
Thanks Sroz. BTW, becoming a ham is pretty darn cheap. The exam (however many you are able to pass in one sitting) costs $14. The radio (Baofeng UV-5R) with accessories (antenna upgrade, additional high capacity battery pack, rainproof speaker mic with cord, USB programming cable) cost $114. Then this morning bought an up-to-date sheet with all of the state of CO repeaters on it ($3). Thats $131 for everything, including tax and shipping.
Russ at Ham Radio outlet said that he would be happy to talk to any of you guys looking to get into ham and walk you through what you need to do. Although I went the cheap route on the radio, Russ does recommend some better Yaesu models that they carry at the store. I wanted to go cheap, since I didn't want a lot invested if for some reason it wasn't for me.
One thing he suggested was starting a COAR-15 radio net and prepare to use it if SHTF. Might be useful to find out who is interested, and maybe schedule a meeting to figure out how involved people want to get and what the net should be used for.
I've got 2 brothers that are HAM's, one in UT the other in ID. They both recommended HRO in Denver.
I like the idea of getting a group of like minded users together just in case. And by 'just in case' I mean when the SHTF, not if.
streetglideok
03-21-2013, 08:54
I'll be going back thru the 11pages on here, and sending PMs today to those who are coming with the info for meeting this Sunday. So please make sure your PM box has room, and keep an eye out.
losttrail
03-21-2013, 10:32
I'll be going back thru the 11pages on here, and sending PMs today to those who are coming with the info for meeting this Sunday. So please make sure your PM box has room, and keep an eye out.
I cannot make a meeting this Sunday. Just got the manual on my Kindle so I can study on my fight to D.C. tomorrow.
streetglideok
03-21-2013, 17:06
Ok PMs sent.
baglock1
03-21-2013, 17:48
I appreciate the invite guys but I'm going to have to pass on this one. Unfortunately (depending on how you look at it), my weekends tend to get pre-planned pretty far in advance and usually not with my input. Any of you with wife and kids can commiserate, I'm sure.
I do intend on studying for and taking the tests (will probably plan on testing for all three) in the next few months. At that time, I would definitely like to practice some hands on skills and get involved with the information sharing network.
streetglideok
03-21-2013, 19:09
I appreciate the invite guys but I'm going to have to pass on this one. Unfortunately (depending on how you look at it), my weekends tend to get pre-planned pretty far in advance and usually not with my input. Any of you with wife and kids can commiserate, I'm sure.
I do intend on studying for and taking the tests (will probably plan on testing for all three) in the next few months. At that time, I would definitely like to practice some hands on skills and get involved with the information sharing network.
No problem just wanted to throw the offer to you.
Looks like I will not be able to make it guys.
The wife has some family issues to deal with and I have to stay home and watch the kids.
Hopefully if the comms meet goes well it can be a regular thing :)
streetglideok
03-22-2013, 22:36
Can totally relate and understand. We'll catch you at the next one
Singlestack
03-23-2013, 07:02
Hey guys - those of you who provided links to Colorado Connections and Colorado Repeater Association - thanks! If any of you guys who use the Colo repeaters can bring along a list of what you think are the best 2m and/or 70 cm repeaters in the state, that would be helpful. I'll bring my paper and pencil and the repeater list I got from HRO. Wifester wants to bake up come cookies for me to bring...
streetglideok
03-23-2013, 07:17
You say cookies? Oh your golden now....
I'll try and bring a list of what I use, but theres hundreds in the state. Some do work better than others, I have found. You got your PM I take it?
Singlestack
03-23-2013, 09:21
You say cookies? Oh your golden now....
I'll try and bring a list of what I use, but theres hundreds in the state. Some do work better than others, I have found. You got your PM I take it?
Sure did - I'll be there! Look forward to meeting other pork products.
I am down for the count with some kind of sickness.. Unless I feel a whole lot better I'm going to have to miss the meeting (which sucks because I really want to go).
streetglideok
03-23-2013, 10:52
Bah, take some nyquil, and you'll feel like new lol
I'll have my kid with me.
Well, our daughter woke up at 4:00 am with a fever of 101.3. I was given strict instructions not to leave the house with her today. To further her point, my wife drove my truck to work today. heh. I'll have to pass on this one.
streetglideok
03-24-2013, 11:04
There's some kind of bug goin around lately. We've done pretty good this winter amazingly, but little ones, poor things are exposed to everything out there. Hopefully she'll get better soon.
I'm eating lunch, then heading up. Likely will be on the cra repeater(147.225) on the way up, unless they have their net still going. In which case, I'll be on the colorado connection repeater(145.310).
enthusiast
03-29-2013, 19:04
How did it go?
gnihcraes
03-31-2013, 21:12
It was good. It was nice to meet everyone and hopefully we can meet again. I'm working on setting up a radio in my work truck and should be on the air this week.
PM me if you need help testing the radio.
Dang, sorry I didn't see this earlier. About half way through the first ARRL book, and interested in getting together for the next meetup.
Say, do any of you guys have a CHIRP image file for a UV-5R with lots of the Colorado repeaters in it? That could save me a ton of time....
I don't use CHIRP for mine I heard it could brick your radio, I have a .dat file I've been messing with for the program "UV_5R_VIP".
Just passed my Technician Class this morning in Englewood, now the waiting game starts.
Add me to the mass-PMings if you are all still meeting in the future.
Yahoo! Just saw my call sign posted on fcc.gov!!! Now to try a first transmission with my cheapo Baofeng UV-5R!!
Singlestack, did it seriously take a week and a half to get your Call Letters? Most of this process is 'electronical' i would hate to be waiting for the License back when this was all a paper process.
streetglideok
06-05-2013, 19:38
I think it partly depends on how fast your VEs send the info in. It can take 4 days or less, or over a week. The waiting can suck, and wondering if you will get a cool callsign, or a jumble of letters.
I think it partly depends on how fast your VEs send the info in. It can take 4 days or less, or over a week. The waiting can suck, and wondering if you will get a cool callsign, or a jumble of letters.
The anticipation is killing me :-) I went through the ARRL VEC. Very nice group of guys. I think I am going to like this hobby.
streetglideok
06-05-2013, 21:59
I can assure you, it'll have a 0 in it, and prolly a KD
Singlestack
06-06-2013, 06:14
Beau - congrats on passing and welcome to the fraternity of RF geeks! Street is right; depends on the the speed at which the VEC gets the paperwork submitted.
Street - while at NDMS yesterday doing ATV, our site coordinator told me that calls were now in the E's" - "KE0", for example. I don't mind my call, but would have preferred fewer letters. Amazing how many "vanity items" go along with vanity calls - hats, monogrammed shirts, bags, license plates, and (yes) even tatoos!
We haven't done anything since the initial meeting. I think the hang up is really determining the nuts and bolts of a COAR-15 comm plan. I consider myself too much of a newbie to know what to propose, but am going through an education process to understand what is available.
Here are a couple of fotos from NDMS yesterday of a Lakota and a Blackhawk dropping off incoming "patients" at Good Samaritan hospital.
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streetglideok
06-06-2013, 06:59
We were asked to participate in the NDMS, both district 14, and my wife, but for some reason the hospitals here declined to participate in the event, so we more or less stepped out of it. We have a marathon to do sunday that I'm helping in. Making a trip to the candy store Saturday to pickup an antenna for my handheld, so I can hit the repeater better. We'll have to discuss some thoughts sometime in the near future, as we get some play time in the field. I'm not sure, but I think you can get a vanity callsign with a general. If not, I know you can with extra. Thought about about doing what some do, and having them drop the D in my sign. I like the last three letters in mine,lol.
All those helicopters went right over my house out to the exercise, was also listening to the goings on and people talking about it on the radio too on a couple repeaters.
What got me so excited was listening to the radio as I usually do, and hearing the activation process for the Evergreen fire. It was quite nice to hear all the folks volunteering to mann comm vans and just asking if they could be utilized in some way. Very awesome. This is exactly why I am wanting to learn about this. Situational Awareness. EDIT: Well getting into to this gets my inner Techie out.
Singlestack
06-06-2013, 09:55
I agree on a netmeeting to discuss - we should probably get gnihcraes involved, as well. Good luck at the marathon and no matter what - learn to luv your rubber duck!
I switched out my Rubber Duck for a 14" on my handheld, and the quality of the reception is like night and day.
Just showed up a few minutes ago!
KD0***
streetglideok
06-06-2013, 16:23
Now you're on the radar,lol.
Now you're on the radar,lol.
I'm too scared to talk to anyone! [fail]
streetglideok
06-06-2013, 17:24
Bah. Just have to get on the air and do it. Make sure you have the repeaters entered in correctly. The colorado connection and colorado repeater assoc. repeaters are usually well monitored
I think I have been listening to a few of them, I'll program the rest and see if I can successfully get to them to verify I did it right tomorrow.
streetglideok
06-06-2013, 19:07
It wont kill you. Just listen to how they talk on the repeaters. Remember, ID every 10 min or less. It usually helps when talking via a repeater, key up and wait a second before talking. Some repeaters, especially linked repeaters need a short delay, otherwise the first thing you say will be cut off.
I'll try it out LOL.
Trying to get them in my Baofeng now :-D
streetglideok
06-06-2013, 21:10
Remember, 147.00 and higher, positive offset, +600khz. Below 147.00, negative offset, -600khz. Then you have your PL tone. That's it.
Yay, fun with Baofengs. I just missed one of the special purpose nets I might have been able to hear. Might just be me but I don't currently hear anyone.
streetglideok
06-06-2013, 21:20
Theres a crew of people who chat during their am commute in the metro area. Cant remember what repeater they use, but you'll find them around 7-8am. Gives you an idea on how a group carries on a chat. I usually have my radio on in the am and pm commutes, but typically its on the 146.970 machine here in town. Normally you guys up there can ping it, but they are running a temp antenna until the summit house roof is done on the peak. It lacks the sensitivity and range of the original setup.
Did my FIRST radio Check with someone through a 149.867 repeater out in the Castle Rock area. Quite impressed with this little radio. Only upgrades I am using is a 14" antenna and a larger battery. He could hear me just fine.
So excited!
Singlestack
06-07-2013, 10:06
yup, that is a Fail! Congrats and hope you like your call sign - or at least "learn to love it".
streetglideok
06-07-2013, 10:56
Ill be up there tommorow sometime, I'll know later today or tonight about when, to do some toy shopping. Dunno if you want to meet up or have plans for lunch. Also, they are still needing some bodies down here for the hill climb, if any of you are avail that sunday, let me know, I'll forward you to the right people.
The Call Sign isn't all that bad. I think, however they gave me all the letters of the alphabet that are hard to distinguish over the radio. I'll be doing a lot of phonetic spelling to folks.
The guy I talked to said for the repeater we were using there were no dues required. How can I tell if a particular repeater requires dues? I don't want to be using some repeater and not supporting it like I should.
Sorry Singlestack, i hope I haven't hijacked your thread, if I did just let me know!
Singlestack
06-07-2013, 11:49
Beau - I sort of consider this thread to be "all things ham radio" - which is what you were talking about - so I consider it the same topic.
Street - which Sunday is the hill climb?
streetglideok
06-07-2013, 12:45
Looks like 6/30/2013 singlestack. Needing 10 more people at least from the roster.
Is it worth it to request a vanity callsign, or does everyone just take what they get? I don't have anything in mind, but was wondering if I should bother trying to come up with something...
Great-Kazoo
06-08-2013, 21:10
Thanks Sroz. BTW, becoming a ham is pretty darn cheap. The exam (however many you are able to pass in one sitting) costs $14. The radio (Baofeng UV-5R) with accessories (antenna upgrade, additional high capacity battery pack, rainproof speaker mic with cord, USB programming cable) cost $114. Then this morning bought an up-to-date sheet with all of the state of CO repeaters on it ($3). Thats $131 for everything, including tax and shipping.
Russ at Ham Radio outlet said that he would be happy to talk to any of you guys looking to get into ham and walk you through what you need to do. Although I went the cheap route on the radio, Russ does recommend some better Yaesu models that they carry at the store. I wanted to go cheap, since I didn't want a lot invested if for some reason it wasn't for me.
One thing he suggested was starting a COAR-15 radio net and prepare to use it if SHTF. Might be useful to find out who is interested, and maybe schedule a meeting to figure out how involved people want to get and what the net should be used for.
Just received my UV-5r as a fathers day present from our daughter. She got me the extra battery, usb cord / cd, taller antenna and ear piece for $60. The usb and antenna is in transit. Not to get reading and learning.
streetglideok
06-09-2013, 05:21
Is it worth it to request a vanity callsign, or does everyone just take what they get? I don't have anything in mind, but was wondering if I should bother trying to come up with something...
Some people get vanity signs, some of which are kind of funny, others just fits the holder of the license. I saw one down here that said N0MUD. Yep it was a big 4wd. Sometimes you end up with a cool one. I've had a couple of gamers ask if mine was a vanity. Only reason I'd upgrade to extra and get a vanity, would be to drop a letter from my callsign.
Just received my UV-5r as a fathers day present from our daughter. She got me the extra battery, usb cord / cd, taller antenna and ear piece for $60. The usb and antenna is in transit. Not to get reading and learning.
Jim, if you haven't already gotten a bunch of stuff, what worked for me was to read the book by Gordon West. It was short, to the point, and did not have any extra information in the book to confuse me, plus I am easily bored when I am reading something, so the book was real short and I thought that was good. It started off with a few pages of background, then it got right into each question. Gave the question, 4 possible answers, a brief very brief description along with key words, and finally the answer, then on to the next.
Whenever I had free time in my phone I would take the practive test over and over again at: http://www.eham.net/exams/
I also had flash cards I got from the Ham Store off of Iliff for 20 dollars, and I would carry 20-30 of them around with me. I passed the test pretty easily.
The best upgrade for my Baofeng (I have two and tested all the 'upgrades' side by side) is the 14" antenna which is the best, the extra capacity battery, and the external microphone.
Ohh! And I got a radio belt clip cup holder mount for in the truck. Works really nice.
Singlestack
06-09-2013, 11:06
Hey Jim - nice Dads day present! The tests are really not difficult and you will pass easily if you drill on the practice tests, if nothing else. Welcome to the club. The UV-5R is a very capable dual band HT, and an absolute steal for the $$. Amazing they can create, market, and sell something that awesome for about $50...
streetglideok
06-09-2013, 11:12
Yeah the Chinese have secured a nice little market with the entry radios and the toys for them. Typically, a longer antenna is a must. The Diamond antenna I used this am for an event helped a lot. I bought the AA battery conversion for my yaesu handheld in case I used my radio a lot and ran the rechargeable pack down. Makes it easy to swap and reinstall. Singlestack, I talked to the coordinator today, and he said they'd gladly take you on board to help for the hill climb if interested. It is an all day event he said, being later in the eve before you get off the mountain.
ChadAmberg
06-09-2013, 12:38
Some people get vanity signs, some of which are kind of funny, others just fits the holder of the license. I saw one down here that said N0MUD. Yep it was a big 4wd. Sometimes you end up with a cool one. I've had a couple of gamers ask if mine was a vanity. Only reason I'd upgrade to extra and get a vanity, would be to drop a letter from my callsign.
Thats what I did and picked up K0ZZZ. It'd be a bitch to use in morse code, but on digital modes on HF, I get lots of good contacts because people see an unusual call sign.
I know most of this is about VHF UHF, but yesterday and today on HF digital modes, I talked to Italy, Spain, Netherlands, UK and various spots around the US, including my first FELD HELL contact with a chap up in NY state. That's a pretty interesting mode to use!
streetglideok
06-09-2013, 13:07
HF is pretty important too, and gets overlooked by the newly minted hams. If the cost of a quality rig and a reasonable antenna were lower, a lot of us would likely jump aboard. I really need to get a dual bander in my jeep, then I can focus on an hf rig. Icom 7200,718 come to mind for new rigs, used ones there are a ton of good ones.
Singlestack
06-12-2013, 20:57
Yeah the Chinese have secured a nice little market with the entry radios and the toys for them. Typically, a longer antenna is a must. The Diamond antenna I used this am for an event helped a lot. I bought the AA battery conversion for my yaesu handheld in case I used my radio a lot and ran the rechargeable pack down. Makes it easy to swap and reinstall. Singlestack, I talked to the coordinator today, and he said they'd gladly take you on board to help for the hill climb if interested. It is an all day event he said, being later in the eve before you get off the mountain.
I'm spoken for - both my Mom's and Nieces Bday on the 30th. Thanks tho.
streetglideok
06-12-2013, 22:30
At this point, who knows if the race will go on as scheduled. I would hope that another week or so the fire will be under control down here. They rescheduled the hill climb last year due to waldo.
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