StreetDoctor
02-23-2013, 21:49
Had the pleasure of taking my hunter education class today.... 8 hour one day internet class in Commerce City. If anyone else from here was there maybe you can back me up on this? I'd love to hear your opinion, maybe I was in a worse mood then normal because I have a cold or maybe they were really as dumb as I thought.
30 minutes into the class the instructor who I affectionally referred to as Elmer Fudd said, and I quote, "an old pump shotgun that no longer works is the best self defense weapon you can have. Keep it unloaded and if you hear someone breaking in, just say loudly that you are getting your gun and then rack your (non-functioning) shotgun. If the bad guy still comes in hold it by the barrel and swing for the teeth, if he blocks it you should have an aluminum baseball bat nearby, not a wooden one. Use it to swing at their knees". At that point I almost walked out of the class, and it took an enormous amount of self restraint to not mention that if the would be attacker continued in odds are you and your entire family are now dead because he's probably drugged out with a functioning weapon of his own. I also wondered why a wooden bat wouldn't do?
Continuing on....
His wife (who worked for CPW) was demonstrating how to hand over a rifle and demonstrated checking the chamber and looking down the barrel, then holding the rifle with the action open so the person you were handing it to could see down the barrel too. I thought that was kind of awkward but whatever... I watched the person in front of me muzzle sweep 5 or 6 people trying to hold the rifle so the person she was handing it to could see down the barrel. When it was my turn I asked why it wasn't sufficient to open the action, check the chamber, and hand it off and let that person check the chamber while holding it so they don't muzzle sweep a bunch of people like what just happened? to which she replied, "the rifle could fire". I asked how she expected a rifle to fire with the action open, with there being no round in the chamber and no contact with the bolt or firing pin? She told me "you never know".[Bang]
I also learned you should never walk around with a holstered loaded sidearm because they fire on their own also.... and I forgot to mention the story about the "accidental discharge" when the wife (who I remind you works for CPW) didn't know how to unload a lever gun and fired a round feet away from her husband into a bush... to which he chuckled about. Then he told us about all the tickets he received for not properly unloading his .22lr, and also hunting without a 3 round plug in his shotgun.
Are these seriously the best people they could find to teach hunter safety? I'm not sure the instructor understood the proper terms for different parts of a firearm... Gave me a puzzled look when I said the word "hang fire", and I counted the word "clip" at least a dozen times when they were referring to a magazine. [Mad]
I was afraid to go to the live fire portion in fear of being shot by one of the instructors, luckily I was one of the first people to fire and get the hell out of there. [panic]Not sure I want to be doing any hunting on public land if this is the type of people they are "educating".
I was hoping for a feedback card at the end of the class but no dice on that either... [Rant2]
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30 minutes into the class the instructor who I affectionally referred to as Elmer Fudd said, and I quote, "an old pump shotgun that no longer works is the best self defense weapon you can have. Keep it unloaded and if you hear someone breaking in, just say loudly that you are getting your gun and then rack your (non-functioning) shotgun. If the bad guy still comes in hold it by the barrel and swing for the teeth, if he blocks it you should have an aluminum baseball bat nearby, not a wooden one. Use it to swing at their knees". At that point I almost walked out of the class, and it took an enormous amount of self restraint to not mention that if the would be attacker continued in odds are you and your entire family are now dead because he's probably drugged out with a functioning weapon of his own. I also wondered why a wooden bat wouldn't do?
Continuing on....
His wife (who worked for CPW) was demonstrating how to hand over a rifle and demonstrated checking the chamber and looking down the barrel, then holding the rifle with the action open so the person you were handing it to could see down the barrel too. I thought that was kind of awkward but whatever... I watched the person in front of me muzzle sweep 5 or 6 people trying to hold the rifle so the person she was handing it to could see down the barrel. When it was my turn I asked why it wasn't sufficient to open the action, check the chamber, and hand it off and let that person check the chamber while holding it so they don't muzzle sweep a bunch of people like what just happened? to which she replied, "the rifle could fire". I asked how she expected a rifle to fire with the action open, with there being no round in the chamber and no contact with the bolt or firing pin? She told me "you never know".[Bang]
I also learned you should never walk around with a holstered loaded sidearm because they fire on their own also.... and I forgot to mention the story about the "accidental discharge" when the wife (who I remind you works for CPW) didn't know how to unload a lever gun and fired a round feet away from her husband into a bush... to which he chuckled about. Then he told us about all the tickets he received for not properly unloading his .22lr, and also hunting without a 3 round plug in his shotgun.
Are these seriously the best people they could find to teach hunter safety? I'm not sure the instructor understood the proper terms for different parts of a firearm... Gave me a puzzled look when I said the word "hang fire", and I counted the word "clip" at least a dozen times when they were referring to a magazine. [Mad]
I was afraid to go to the live fire portion in fear of being shot by one of the instructors, luckily I was one of the first people to fire and get the hell out of there. [panic]Not sure I want to be doing any hunting on public land if this is the type of people they are "educating".
I was hoping for a feedback card at the end of the class but no dice on that either... [Rant2]
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