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The man got arrested. This is the stuff we need to avoid. However, what kind of reaction do the politicians expect? They all know what this issue stirs up, the kind of emotion behind it. Unfortunately, I think we'll see more of this stuff if/when it passes.
http://kdvr.com/2013/02/25/man-arrested-for-threatening-rep-rhonda-fields-over-gun-legislation/
10mm-man
02-25-2013, 14:46
The man got arrested. This is the stuff we need to avoid. However, what kind of reaction do the politicians expect? They all know what this issue stirs up, the kind of emotion behind it. Unfortunately, I think we'll see more of this stuff if/when it passes.
http://kdvr.com/2013/02/25/man-arrested-for-threatening-rep-rhonda-fields-over-gun-legislation/
Strength in numbers- Bozo should have got about 20,000 people gathered and went after her with feathers and tar. Jim said he has an ample supply!!
Hmmm...I'd like to know what he said that was considered to be threatening. If he truly threatened her then this is exactly what we DO NOT need. It's things like this that give the left fuel to propose more legislation under the guise of public safety.
jackthewall81
02-25-2013, 15:03
Just wait until after this legislaton passes.
BPTactical
02-25-2013, 15:08
Maybe she just cant handle it......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYQzQcVuof0
Aloha_Shooter
02-25-2013, 15:10
It hurts us if he really did threaten her. You know the antis are going to magnify any incident they can to try to characterize us as deranged whackos to anyone who is even on the fence. We need to stay mad but stay cool.
Kraven251
02-25-2013, 15:11
Just wait until after this legislaton passes.
^^^The wackadoodle population will make their case for them.
And while the rest of us are scrambling to get behind legal action and the civil pathways to get this stuff fixed we'll be dealing with all of the fallout if someone takes non-legal measures.
Things have already started to spiral, albeit slowly, anything that causes the descent to pick up more speed will make the crash harder and harder to avoid. I still think it is avoidable, but we could find ourselves thrust into a bad spot very quickly if the "unstable" contingent doesn't settle down.
Man, it's amazing how there seems to be a "death threat guy" for practically every situation. Wonder this one is a member here...
Hmmm...I'd like to know what he said that was considered to be threatening. If he truly threatened her then this is exactly what we DO NOT need. It's things like this that give the left fuel to propose more legislation under the guise of public safety.
I was thinking that... what if it was this guy threatening to push for her to be recalled, or not elected again in '14? What if there was no viable threat on her life? If that's the case then we're in deep doodoo...
Kraven251
02-25-2013, 15:26
I was thinking that... what if it was this guy threatening to push for her to be recalled, or not elected again in '14? What if there was no viable threat on her life? If that's the case then we're in deep doodoo...
Agreed.
He was arrested for "attempting to influence a public official."
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that. He should have known better than to use words for that. Money is the only thing that works...and gets overlooked. ;)
I was thinking that... what if it was this guy threatening to push for her to be recalled, or not elected again in '14? What if there was no viable threat on her life? If that's the case then we're in deep doodoo...
In any case they will use this to make us all look like violent psychopaths bent on destruction and chaos. The control the left has over the media to spread propaganda is truly amazing. Sadly, most people have broken "bullshit detectors".
I did not see anything in the article that explains what kind of threat he made other than saying left voice messages and sent emails. No meat and taters I could see. I'm thinking this one is total BS
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newracer
02-25-2013, 16:00
I wonder if the increased protection for her includes firearms with magazines greater than 15 rounds.
Bailey Guns
02-25-2013, 16:01
Officially, and for the record, I don't condone threatening politicians.
Having said that, I don't give a rat's ass what happens to some tyrannical politician intent on subverting the Constitution and my liberties and freedoms as an American.
I need to be sure to state it up-front - THIS IS PURELY A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION! (that follows). I am in NO WAY suggesting ANY actions to ANYONE, but am curious about something.
Disclaimer now stated.
What would be the reaction to having some targets printed up with photos of our 'favorite' Dems in place of the normal photos?
If someone were to take videos of target practice on such modified target, would it (could it) be perceived as a threat of any sort?
I think of it as the contemporary equivalent of pasting a photo on a dart board - BUT - with all the paranoia running rampant, I wonder if LE would consider it harmless or threatening?
Is there any precedent?
Byte Stryke
02-25-2013, 16:18
correct me if I am wrong, but as the United States was declared a Battlefield by the 2012 NDAA (http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/senators-demand-military-lock-american-citizens-battlefield-they-define-being), aren't we shooting traitors under Article I?
As far as I know, wartime suspends article III trials (Constitutional) regarding treason.
I need to be sure to state it up-front - THIS IS PURELY A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION! (that follows). I am in NO WAY suggesting ANY actions to ANYONE, but am curious about something.
Disclaimer now stated.
What would be the reaction to having some targets printed up with photos of our 'favorite' Dems in place of the normal photos?
If someone were to take videos of target practice on such modified target, would it (could it) be perceived as a threat of any sort?
I think of it as the contemporary equivalent of pasting a photo on a dart board - BUT - with all the paranoia running rampant, I wonder if LE would consider it harmless or threatening?
Is there any precedent?
Ignoring the amount of win in that theory, I think it'd be bad right now. The lefties have the media in their corner and they get to say how things look. A simple headline makes the sheeple start marching to their tune. "Gun nuts pretend to gun down state reps". Not good.
However, Youtube can be powerful. A video where people that, purely by coincidence, look just like our dem leaders are shooting up copies of the constitution while laughing could become viral. Of course, it'd be best to make it an infomercial for us too. Show all the true statistics of gun violence (or lack there of) and pick apart all the arguments that are plastered on the left's media outlets.
10mm-man
02-25-2013, 16:22
I need to be sure to state it up-front - THIS IS PURELY A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION! (that follows). I am in NO WAY suggesting ANY actions to ANYONE, but am curious about something.
Disclaimer now stated.
What would be the reaction to having some targets printed up with photos of our 'favorite' Dems in place of the normal photos?
If someone were to take videos of target practice on such modified target, would it (could it) be perceived as a threat of any sort?
I think of it as the contemporary equivalent of pasting a photo on a dart board - BUT - with all the paranoia running rampant, I wonder if LE would consider it harmless or threatening?
Is there any precedent?
Kinda like the ones posted of; pregnant women, old guys, kids? i thought about this also; include some DHS Agents, FBI, politicians, U.N peace keepers, etc..... $$$ maker million dollar idea there! Like stated above how about add a target with the Constitution on it.... Shit were does one stop with the possibilities!! [Bang]
Zundfolge
02-25-2013, 16:28
I need to be sure to state it up-front - THIS IS PURELY A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION! (that follows). I am in NO WAY suggesting ANY actions to ANYONE, but am curious about something.
Disclaimer now stated.
What would be the reaction to having some targets printed up with photos of our 'favorite' Dems in place of the normal photos?
If someone were to take videos of target practice on such modified target, would it (could it) be perceived as a threat of any sort?
I think of it as the contemporary equivalent of pasting a photo on a dart board - BUT - with all the paranoia running rampant, I wonder if LE would consider it harmless or threatening?
Is there any precedent?
That is such an unbelievably bad idea I'm surprised some anti gun groups haven't staged such videos yet and posted them on youtube (Racist rednecks with guns shooting Rep Fields in effigy! Film at 11!)
Hell, Republicans were pilloried for using posters with gun sights over targeted congressional districts in other states and said posters used to blame them for the shooting of Gabby Giffords.
For Chrissake, I wouldn't be surprised to see Democrat activists murder their own Democrat politicians as a means of discrediting conservatives, libertarians and the gun rights movement.
We certainly don't need to feed the beast with our own discussion of even thinking about symbolically shooting pictures of Democrat politicians.
A crime? Shit you should be mandated to threaten politicians at every opportunity that is presented, maybe they wouldn't be so cocky if they had to abide by the laws they pass, people could carry a gun around them without being prosecuted, etc.
T.rexford
02-25-2013, 17:36
I won't pass any judgement until they put up what was written. At this point in time I don't trust a single one of the polticians.
/snip
Hell, Republicans were pilloried for using posters with gun sights over targeted congressional districts in other states and said posters used to blame them for the shooting of Gabby Giffords.
For Chrissake, I wouldn't be surprised to see Democrat activists murder their own Democrat politicians as a means of discrediting conservatives, libertarians and the gun rights movement.
/snip
The ends justify the means. This is how the Democrats (CPUSA) operate. Anything, and I mean anything will be done to further their agenda.
I won't pass any judgement until they put up what was written. At this point in time I don't trust a single one of the polticians.
Good idea, this guy could be a plant by the (D) to garner sympathy and strength for their anti-constitutional activities.
they just said on koaa ch.5 that they had just received the arrest report and there were several and explicit threats and racist remarks threatening her and obama, they would have more on tonights news after they went through it. below is a cut and paste from some of it. it don't make him or us look good if it is true.
“I guarantee there is not enough law enforcement or military to stop an all-out overthrow of this government if you or that n—– president tries to take our guns,” one e-mail dated Feb. 13 reads. “Guarantee we will make World War I and II look like child’s play, many will die. Be prepared.”
Another e-mail expresses hope that someone would “Giffords” both Fields and Rep. Beth McCann, an apparent reference to the 2011 mass shooting that nearly killed Arizona Rep. Gabby Giffords.
The paper letter attributed to Sain states, “There will be blood! I’m coming for you, n—– b—–.” The letter was postmarked Feb. 16.
Aloha_Shooter
02-25-2013, 18:07
I very much doubt he's a plant but I'll wait to see what exactly the "threats" were before passing judgment.
As far as DHC's hypothetical goes, incredibly bad idea, even posting it as a hypothetical plays into the antis' efforts to label us all as deranged whackos bent on solving differences of opinion with violence. Use your standard bad guy and zombie targets but do NOT put up pictures of political leaders no matter how screwy you think they are. I'm sure some people may have some difficulty telling the difference between a zombie and Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi but just look for the green skin.
That is such an unbelievably bad idea I'm surprised some anti gun groups haven't staged such videos yet and posted them on youtube (Racist rednecks with guns shooting Rep Fields in effigy! Film at 11!)
Hell, Republicans were pilloried for using posters with gun sights over targeted congressional districts in other states and said posters used to blame them for the shooting of Gabby Giffords.
For Chrissake, I wouldn't be surprised to see Democrat activists murder their own Democrat politicians as a means of discrediting conservatives, libertarians and the gun rights movement.
We certainly don't need to feed the beast with our own discussion of even thinking about symbolically shooting pictures of Democrat politicians.
Yeah - probably so. I have those (unbelievably bad idea) from time to time.
Still, I couldn't help but conjure up the image of the dart board I mentioned earlier - only with a thematic twist.
I'll tuck my tail and skulk away now, duly chastised . . .
Edit to Add: For the record, the image I was conjuring had absolutely nothing to do with race or gender. The particular Dem I had in my imagination is the same race and gender as me. Just want to be clear.
xtremesvc
02-25-2013, 18:41
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/police-man-arrested-for-harassing-state-representative-rhonda-fields
Not enough information on what this individual said or did!
dupe
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/91157-Rhonda-Fields-gets-threatened
He was arrested for "attempting to influence a public official."
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that. He should have known better than to use words for that. Money is the only thing that works...and gets overlooked. ;)
Isn't that called a lobbyist?
mdflem51
02-25-2013, 19:00
Just hope it`s the Liberal press at work. I hope the guy does us no damage. If the guy has weapons it won`t be pretty. She`s Colorado`s Maxine Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee rolled in one.
You probably aren't the only person to think of it I bet. Don't skulk too far away.
Yeah - probably so. I have those (unbelievably bad idea) from time to time.
Still, I couldn't help but conjure up the image of the dart board I mentioned earlier - only with a thematic twist.
I'll tuck my tail and skulk away now, duly chastised . . .
Edit to Add: For the record, the image I was conjuring had absolutely nothing to do with race or gender. The particular Dem I had in my imagination is the same race and gender as me. Just want to be clear.
they just said on koaa ch.5 that they had just received the arrest report and there were several and explicit threats and racist remarks threatening her and obama, they would have more on tonights news after they went through it. below is a cut and paste from some of it. it don't make him or us look good if it is true.
“I guarantee there is not enough law enforcement or military to stop an all-out overthrow of this government if you or that n—– president tries to take our guns,” one e-mail dated Feb. 13 reads. “Guarantee we will make World War I and II look like child’s play, many will die. Be prepared.”
Another e-mail expresses hope that someone would “Giffords” both Fields and Rep. Beth McCann, an apparent reference to the 2011 mass shooting that nearly killed Arizona Rep. Gabby Giffords.
The paper letter attributed to Sain states, “There will be blood! I’m coming for you, n—– b—–.” The letter was postmarked Feb. 16.
If he would have left the racist $hit out and used future tense this would have been perfectly civil..
Isn't that called a lobbyist?
Good point.
Well, the silver lining in this story is that my gun protects me from racist idiots like the man in the news story. Personally I like informing women, minorities, and homosexuals that the right to bear arms is an extension of their natural right to self defense. One CAN be a pacifist and armed.
T.rexford
02-26-2013, 00:09
Wow. This guy would be the last guy I would have pegged writing something like what they are accusing him of.
http://www.softecinc.com/management_team.html
CEO of a healthcare IT company that does some work for the .gov.. and his management staff looks fairly diverse.
Hopefully there is no fallout and it falls under the radar. We do not need crazies.. we need intelligent people forming intelligent arguments and exposing these politicians for what they are.
Wow. This guy would be the last guy I would have pegged writing something like what they are accusing him of.
http://www.softecinc.com/management_team.html
CEO of a healthcare IT company that does some work for the .gov.. and his management staff looks fairly diverse.
Hopefully there is no fallout and it falls under the radar. We do not need crazies.. we need intelligent people forming intelligent arguments and exposing these politicians for what they are.
Maybe they changed it, or you got some bad info- the guy arrested for the threats on the CO rep was Franklin Sain... not one of the people on that link...
BlasterBob
02-26-2013, 11:20
A shame this happened however I firmly believe this woman is apparently a dingbat. Wonder if her staff has ever made a serious attempt to pass along and update all the negatives of the bills that she is so fired up to pass.
I very much doubt he's a plant but I'll wait to see what exactly the "threats" were before passing judgment.
As far as DHC's hypothetical goes, incredibly bad idea, even posting it as a hypothetical plays into the antis' efforts to label us all as deranged whackos bent on solving differences of opinion with violence. Use your standard bad guy and zombie targets but do NOT put up pictures of political leaders no matter how screwy you think they are. I'm sure some people may have some difficulty telling the difference between a zombie and Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi but just look for the green skin.
http://www.skullbunnie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/zombie-pelosi8-26-10.jpg
Definitely agree that this idiot is not helping the cause. Apparently the threats were multiple and specific, directed at Ms. Fields and her daughter. We need to be very careful how we interact with these idiots, as everything we say, do, or post online is under a microscope.
T.rexford
02-26-2013, 14:39
That website has changed since I posted it. He was/is the CEO of that company. His picture was in the upper right hand corner when I posted it...
The news report even state he was the CEO. Now the guy in the upper left is the new CEO. So the website has been updated to take him off the page..
Maybe they changed it, or you got some bad info- the guy arrested for the threats on the CO rep was Franklin Sain... not one of the people on that link...
OneGuy67
02-26-2013, 14:58
Arrest Affidavit:
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130225075224_AR-M450_20130225_181601.pdf
I won't pass any judgement until they put up what was written.
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Definite threats, and definitely overboard. He was the COO of a Springs company. The only other explanation is that someone is framing him by sending fake emails, who knows. If not, this asshole and those like him are only killing the pro-gun movement though. Springs cybercrime detectives will be able to trace the mails I'm sure.
http://kdvr.com/2013/02/26/englewood-exec-suspended-after-allegedly-threatening-state-lawmaker/
“I guarantee there is not enough law enforcement or military to stop an all-out overthrow of this government if you or that ****** president tries to take our guns,” one e-mail dated Feb. 13 reads. “Guarantee we will make World War I and II look like child’s play, many will die. Be prepared.”
Another e-mail expresses hope that someone would “Giffords” both Fields and Rep. Beth McCann, a reference to the 2011 mass shooting that nearly killed Arizona Rep. Gabby Giffords.
There will be blood! I’m coming for you, ****** bitch!"
Frank Sain is the Chief Operating Officer of SofTec Solutions, who announced Tuesday that he had been “suspended immediately from further duties.”
“We are shocked to learn of these allegations and are taking this matter very seriously,” SofTec said in a Facebook post (https://www.facebook.com/softecinc/posts/475530309180653). “If true, these actions are highly inappropriate and will not be tolerated.”
“SofTec Solutions is a minority-owned, small business and we employ a large diverse workforce. We will absolutely not tolerate any racial, sexual, gender-based slurs or threats of violence by employees,” the statement said.
tmleadr03
02-26-2013, 18:20
I personally find it amusing that Fields now has a protective detail. Wonder how many rounds this mags hold that the protective detail use.
I personally find it amusing that Fields now has a protective detail. Wonder how many rounds this mags hold that the protective detail use.
15, the csp standard issue is the m&p .40
kidicarus13
02-26-2013, 21:57
Prediction: He'll be charged and take a misdemeanor plea allowing him to keep his 100+ magazines and guns.
This guy must feel stupid for being arrested for being all talk.
tmleadr03
02-26-2013, 22:39
15, the csp standard issue is the m&p .40
Lightweights. If I still had my sidearm (tragic boating accident) I would carry at a minimum 17+1.
Ya know, I'm sorry Rhonda Fields' son got killed by gangbangers with guns, maybe he shouldn't have been hanging around with gangbangers. But what the hell qualifies her to become a politician and try to affect the lives of all the rest of us? Was she a Representative before he was killed? Or did she just decide to become one and was elected by "sympathy votes"?
ChiefBDT
02-26-2013, 23:44
Yea this kind of thing just seems to get these politicians the attention they crave. Now she gets to be the valiant voice that us gun nuts are trying to suppress.
To them Bad Attention is better than No attention.
I think we need to all get behind someone (who has no political aspirations) to go fight for gun rights in her own arena. I think we (gun enthusiasts) have for too long sent people to represent us that don't know how to fight with these people. Imagine if everyone on this forum backed "that guy". Problem is the kind of guy we would want to send, wouldn't want to go. A paradox to be sure!
BlasterBob
02-27-2013, 08:51
I personally find it amusing that Fields now has a protective detail. Wonder how many rounds this mags hold that the protective detail use.
Perhaps the magazines of her protectors contain only BLANKS. [panic]
newracer
02-27-2013, 09:08
Ya know, I'm sorry Rhonda Fields' son got killed by gangbangers with guns, maybe he shouldn't have been hanging around with gangbangers. But what the hell qualifies her to become a politician and try to affect the lives of all the rest of us? Was she a Representative before he was killed? Or did she just decide to become one and was elected by "sympathy votes"?
She entered politics after the shooting.
losttrail
02-27-2013, 09:18
Ya know, I'm sorry Rhonda Fields' son got killed by gangbangers with guns, maybe he shouldn't have been hanging around with gangbangers. But what the hell qualifies her to become a politician and try to affect the lives of all the rest of us? Was she a Representative before he was killed? Or did she just decide to become one and was elected by "sympathy votes"?
While I strongly disagree with Rhonda Fields politics, she has every right to become a politician, just as you or I do. Obviously, even being qualified to become POTUS is not that much of a challenge let alone a Colorado state senator.
BlasterBob
02-27-2013, 10:18
no mags, she didnt want to be a hypocrite, so she requires here detail to use .38spcl revolvers, with no more than 5 rounds. i mean who really needs more than that anyway?
Maybe she requires her bodyguards to use .38S&W because she may feel that the .38Spl could be more hurtful than that ancient old cartridge.... Ship her off to Chicago's Obamaland if she really wants to clean up some "gun violence".
OneGuy67
02-27-2013, 10:35
Ya know, I'm sorry Rhonda Fields' son got killed by gangbangers with guns, maybe he shouldn't have been hanging around with gangbangers. But what the hell qualifies her to become a politician and try to affect the lives of all the rest of us? Was she a Representative before he was killed? Or did she just decide to become one and was elected by "sympathy votes"?
He was a CSU college student who witnessed a suspect kill someone and was willing to testify against that person. He and his girlfriend were then killed by an associate of the original suspect. Both dirtbags are now on death row. She was in corporate America before that happened. She entered politics a couple of years after her son's death and after the trials. Could have been on the sympathy vote. She definitely has personal experience and an opinion on specific topics that many Coloradans have no clue about. She broke from her party and is a vocal death penalty advocate. Given her circumstances, I can understand why. I don't like her bills or her personal ideas that are behind those bills, but I don't see her as a typical politician.
Emotionally driven people do not belong in the legislation process. Facts and logic are needed.
Great-Kazoo
02-27-2013, 11:22
Emotionally driven people do not belong in the legislation process. Facts and logic are needed.
You will Never find one person who fits those requirements.
You will Never find one person who fits those requirements.
I beg to differ. You'll always have emotional driven people, yes. But that doesn't mean you forget your duty to be responsible. Emotion can get a lot of things done. It's a big time motivator. But it's their duty to research, use critical thinking to form laws. Rise above the emotion to make sure you're not making knee jerk reactions. Isn't that what we expect out of any leader?
Great-Kazoo
02-27-2013, 12:20
I beg to differ. You'll always have emotional driven people, yes. But that doesn't mean you forget your duty to be responsible. Emotion can get a lot of things done. It's a big time motivator. But it's their duty to research, use critical thinking to form laws. Rise above the emotion to make sure you're not making knee jerk reactions. Isn't that what we expect out of any leader?
Expect yes, receive never.
Dave Young out of greeley. said he Votes Conscience 1st. Constituents 2nd Consensus 3rd.
Flip the coin. Ask a True Conservative about Abortion and the "emotion factor" takes over.
Expect yes, receive never.
Dave Young out of greeley. said he Votes Conscience 1st. Constituents 2nd Consensus 3rd.
Flip the coin. Ask a True Conservative about Abortion and the "emotion factor" takes over.
Touche, sir. It's just frustrating. Human nature is a powerful force.
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