View Full Version : Hudak to rape victim "The stats are against you."
WTF!? Seriously, I think being nice is starting to wear me down and it's time to take the gloves off... This just outrages me beyond belief.
State Sen. Evie Hudak, D-Westminster, has come under fire for comments she made to a rape victim during a committee hearing concerning a bill banning concealed carry weapons from college campuses.Amanda Collins, 27, of Reno, Nev., testified against House Bill 1226 before the Senate State, Veterans and Military Affairs Committee at the Colorado on Monday.
Collins, a victim of rape, shared her story with the committee and said had she been permitted to carry a concealed gun, the incident may have ended differently.
Hudak disagreed.
"I just want to say that, actually statistics are not on your side even if you had a gun," Hudak said. "And, chances are that if you would have had a gun, then he would have been able to get that from you and possibly use it against you."
"The Colorado Coalition Against Gun Violence says that for every one woman who used a handgun to kill someone in self-defense, 83 were murdered by them," Hudak said.
Collins said those comments were shocking and disturbed her deeply.
"I had a hard time falling asleep because I couldn't stop thinking about what she said to me," Collins said.
Aside, Hudak apologized to Collins, but Collins questions the senator's motive for doing so.
"I don't know how genuine it really was," Collins said.
The remarks have drawn criticism.
"It was outrageous," said Dave Kopel, a professor at the University of Denver law school and author of a law-school textbook on firearms law and policy.
Kopel said Hudak's statement displayed the senator's "self-righteous, ignorant bigotry."
After the 3-2 party line vote moving the bill forward, Hudak said the testimony was incredibly powerful, but her job was to keep the safety of all college campus students in mind.
"I feel so horrible for what some of these people have endured," Hudak said. " I am actually really looking out for their best interest."
The odds of a perpetrator of a sexual crime — especially a larger male — getting the gun away from a woman are high, Hudak said.
Collins said that Hudak's comments while painful, were not incorrect.
"The stats are against me," Collins said, "but I am going to fight because of my experience."
Read more:Colorado senator's comments to rape victim drawing criticism - The Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22721762/colorado-senators-comments-rape-victim-drawing-criticism#ixzz2Mhw6aUvH)http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22721762/colorado-senators-comments-rape-victim-drawing-criticism#ixzz2Mhw6aUvH
Hudak= [pileoshit]
BPTactical
03-05-2013, 16:47
Her voicemail is mysteriously full......
liberty19
03-05-2013, 16:48
Hudak is a disgrace to women and was very rude to Ms. Collins.
Indeed... Hudak = [pileoshit]
ChunkyMonkey
03-05-2013, 17:06
She is worse than pile of shit!
"I'm sorry you were raped, but statistically speaking, you would have been raped anyway and probably would have been killed if you had a gun."
Does that about sum up Senator Hudak's statement?
I like to ask gun control advocates this question: If someone attacks you and they are armed with a knife, would you want to have a gun? Yes or No, are the only answers I will accept. If they answer Yes, the follow up is to ask why would they limit others to the things they want for themselves. If the answer is No, I discontinue the conversation. Talking to liars is not productive and not worth my time.
Be safe.
BPTactical
03-05-2013, 17:13
Your trying to apply logic to the scenario Cstone.
Fail
I feel it would be entirely appropriate for ShePig Hudak to experience the same terror, fear, degradation, shock, pain and horror Miss Collins was subjected to.
She can only use a piece of paper with statistics on it to defend herself.
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
03-05-2013, 17:26
I have never wished rape on anyone until now. To bad she is such a troll https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRK93s2Jy2b_QzxG08khwIGGl0_cPg0D fG5JMQMy91je4k16cUz
Too bad the perpetrator of this crime already had a gun. Way to listen to the testimony. Typical government trash.
lowbeyond
03-05-2013, 17:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl0MS7Z-Sjc
lowbeyond
03-05-2013, 17:47
Be sure to be respectful to these people. That makes all the difference ! [ROFL2]
rockhound
03-05-2013, 18:47
we lost this battle at the last election. it wont matter what we desire or the testimony that is provided. your rightd wer on their way out the day after the election, this is just the beginning.
.455_Hunter
03-05-2013, 18:54
Good old Evie "Jabba the Hutt" Hudak...
Just look at the pictures.
Hey, she apologized for it. That makes it ok.
/sarcasm.
http://theeviehudakreport.com/node/310
According to the article, Hudak "got into a heated argument with 14-year-old girl over the fact that the girl’s mother replaced a Hudak yard sign with one of Hudak’s opponents."
Hudak confronted and intimidated the 14 year old girl, even pushing her way into the family home after the teen insisted that her parents were not home.
Political campaigns can be heated, but Hudak was so over the line with her confrontation of the girl that the family filed a police report against her for first degree criminal trespass.
mountainjenny
03-05-2013, 19:15
She is a classless and clueless New Yorker. It is a shame the entire state has to be subjected to her idiocy.
.455_Hunter
03-05-2013, 19:22
Evie Hudak is the result when the Libertarian candidate splits the vote. We COULD have Lang Sias representing us, but by just a few hundred votes, we have Evie!
If she happened to get hit by a train, by her own fault, I would probably stand by and watch. What a piece of shit.
She won her reelection by 585 votes. With a total of 75,848 votes. She is not representing the people of Arvada and Westminster.
She won her reelection by 585 votes. With a total of 75,848 votes. She is not representing the people of Arvada and Westminster.
If that was my district and i voted for Sweeny I'd be sick to my stomach.
State Senate District 19 100% reporting ( 59 precincts )
Candidate or Ballot-Vote
Vote percentage
Vote count
Evie Hudak (Dem)
46.9%
(34,359)
Lang Sias (GOP)
46.4%
(34,027)
Lloyd Sweeny (Lib)
6.5%
(4,823
Daniel_187
03-05-2013, 19:43
A guy at work said the same thing about women and guns, he even fed his teenage daughter the line about throwing shit at your attacker, does anyone have real stats about women with guns?
sabot_round
03-05-2013, 19:55
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRK93s2Jy2b_QzxG08khwIGGl0_cPg0D fG5JMQMy91je4k16cUz
She has no clue because no one wants to rape a fat ugly cow like her!! It is pure and simple ideology at this point.
My bad if it offends anyone here.
If she happened to get hit by a train, by her own fault, I would probably stand by and watch. What a piece of shit.
And by "probably", I think you mean you would shove her in front of it just to make sure. Or that could just be me.
Sharpienads
03-05-2013, 20:02
A guy at work said the same thing about women and guns, he even fed his teenage daughter the line about throwing shit at your attacker, does anyone have real stats about women with guns?
Does it really matter what the stats are? I would rather have a fighting chance, even if the odds were against me.
mountainjenny
03-05-2013, 20:05
A guy at work said the same thing about women and guns, he even fed his teenage daughter the line about throwing shit at your attacker, does anyone have real stats about women with guns?
God forbid, I would ever experience an event like this, but if I do...
I am not taking any option off the table, but it would be much more difficult for me to fling shit at an attacker, like a monkey in a zoo, than it would be to defend myself with a firearm.
Oh boy, getting worked up now! [Mad]
blacklabel
03-05-2013, 20:07
Does it really matter what the stats are? I would rather have a fighting chance, even if the odds were against me.
You can choose to be a victim. Hudak would prefer that her constituents choose to be victims.
That stat is incorrectly stated and being used out of context.
It was posted in the other big thread last night, and I paraphrase, "for every one woman who used a handgun to kill someone in self-defense, 83 women WITHOUT A GUN were murdered by their attackers."
So she's also a lying cunt.
I think we should all thank the libertarians that voted for their candidate instead of the Republican candidate, however unpalatable they may have been.
How's voting your conscience working out for you now? [fail]
dwalker460
03-05-2013, 20:12
Just send Hudak to prison for a week and see how applicable those rape stats are...
A guy at work said the same thing about women and guns, he even fed his teenage daughter the line about throwing shit at your attacker, does anyone have real stats about women with guns?
After all the comments where people say they should just pee or poop or vomit on the attacker....can people actually command this on demand...I mean seriously, do these people walk around with a turtle head poking out or their bladder ready to release on command?
And by "probably", I think you mean you would shove her in front of it just to make sure. Or that could just be me.
i would never consider such a thing!
After all the comments where people say they should just pee or poop or vomit on the attacker....can people actually command this on demand...I mean seriously, do these people walk around with a turtle head poking out or their bladder ready to release on command?
Turtle head [ROFL3]
lowspeed_highdrag
03-05-2013, 20:18
I have nothing nice to say about this, and as Flower would say, I probably shouldnt say anything at all.
mountainjenny
03-05-2013, 20:19
After all the comments where people say they should just pee or poop or vomit on the attacker....can people actually command this on demand...I mean seriously, do these people walk around with a turtle head poking out or their bladder ready to release on command?
I don't think so. [fail]
One in the chamber so to speak.
Sharpienads
03-05-2013, 20:23
After all the comments where people say they should just pee or poop or vomit on the attacker....can people actually command this on demand...I mean seriously, do these people walk around with a turtle head poking out or their bladder ready to release on command?
My CCW is ready to piss and shit lead with just a little squeeze...
i would never consider such a thing!
Your right. That was a terrible thing for me to even mention. I apologize unreservedly.
Byte Stryke
03-05-2013, 20:26
We have the government that we elected.
Sharpienads
03-05-2013, 20:28
We have the government that we elected.
Except that most of the people I vote for don't get elected... Except Sheriff Maketa! Score one for me.
I think we should all thank the libertarians that voted for their candidate instead of the Republican candidate, however unpalatable they may have been.
How's voting your conscience working out for you now? [fail]
Republican politicians' failures to represent the people, can only be blamed on the Republican politicians themselves.
Here's the source of the ridiculous statistic. I don't doubt that the numbers for 1998 are correct but there is no relation between the two. I'd actually be interested in seeing an update even with the same flawed methodology given the much higher number of armed women today.
I'm surprised she didn't use the 302 number instead of 83.
http://www.vpc.org/studies/myth.htm
Sharpienads
03-05-2013, 20:52
Here's the source of the ridiculous statistic. I don't doubt that the numbers for 1998 are correct but there is no relation between the two. I'd actually be interested in seeing an update even with the same flawed methodology given the much higher number of armed women today.
I'm surprised she didn't use the 302 number instead of 83.
http://www.vpc.org/studies/myth.htm
So, all I get from that is that more woman should own/carry handguns.
If few women own guns, but many are killed by guns, it is only logical that more woman should own guns.
mountainjenny
03-05-2013, 21:00
Law abiding women and men both should have the right to choose to carry if they so desire. The government should not be in the business of regulating your self protection.
Bailey Guns
03-05-2013, 21:45
Amanda took our carry class. Needless to say, she was as inspiring then as she was yesterday.
Your right. That was a terrible thing for me to even mention. I apologize unreservedly.
[gohome]Get back to your French model!
[gohome]Get back to your French model!
OUI, and Touche'
If that was my district and i voted for Sweeny I'd be sick to my stomach.
Looking at lang Sias' website it looks like he was likely too moderate to get the die hard republicans off the couch. Not to mention he was a brand new untested name against an incumbent. Looks like a good guy, i would have voted for him.
Reading the comments left on her Facebook, it would seem that she struck a massive nerve. Clearly she's hiding, and hoping we'll have forgotten everything by next week.
onebadfx4
03-06-2013, 01:06
How do these people get voted into office. Scum of the earth.
Reading the comments left on her Facebook, it would seem that she struck a massive nerve. Clearly she's hiding, and hoping we'll have forgotten everything by next week.
Well somehow we let that Salazar pip squeak live down the comments he made not a few weeks ago. Americans have short term memory problems, it seems.
onebadfx4
03-06-2013, 02:25
Well somehow we let that Salazar pip squeak live down the comments he made not a few weeks ago. Americans have short term memory problems, it seems.
THIS...Hopefully the populace remembers when it comes election time.
clublights
03-06-2013, 03:44
Well somehow we let that Salazar pip squeak live down the comments he made not a few weeks ago. Americans have short term memory problems, it seems.
Cuz the Media let him slide... he's a dem .. if he had been a -R .... it would still be headline news. Like Atkins .....( not that atkins didn't deserve it just making a comparison )
DavieD55
03-06-2013, 05:33
Hudak is a worm.
Kraven251
03-06-2013, 07:52
Her voicemail is mysteriously full......
so is she, of shit.
buffalobo
03-06-2013, 08:32
You can choose to be a victim. Hudak would prefer that her constituents choose to be victims.
She in the process of forcing them to be victims.
buffalobo
03-06-2013, 08:38
After her performance and the close vote totals, she should be a good candidate for recall.
Well somehow we let that Salazar pip squeak live down the comments he made not a few weeks ago. Americans have short term memory problems, it seems.
Hey!! Something SHINY!! ;)
jonny450r
03-06-2013, 09:13
Well somehow we let that Salazar pip squeak live down the comments he made not a few weeks ago. Americans have short term memory problems, it seems.
Shit I got blocked from Joe salazar's Facebook page cause of the response I gave him to his comment. Short memory loss the pandemic......most likely. But I'm sure their opponts, if theyre smart, will use these comments to defeat them come elections.
sent from my fancy dancy phone that'll soon be outdated or broken
SuperiorDG
03-06-2013, 09:24
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061009183143/starwars/images/7/75/JabbaPromo.jpg
I posted this on another forum yesterday:
Disgusting. The fact that these idiots think they know so much makes my stomach turn.
I appreciate the level of bravery displayed by that young woman to reveal a VERY personal part of her life I'm sure she would rather just forget. What that idiot did to her afterward (those 'statistics' she vomited out aren't even related) is disgraceful and had a Republican said the same thing it would be splashed all over the national media before dinner was on the table tonight.
I'm embarrassed that this is an elected representative supposedly representing my best interests and protecting the Constitution. Neither of which are being displayed by that passive aggressive load of horse manure by that single digit IQ'd idiot who doesn't possess the common sense that god gave a door knob.
If she happened to get hit by a train, by her own fault, I would probably stand by and watch. What a piece of shit.
Maybe the correct statement is if she were on fire, I would not piss on her to put her out.
Evie Hudak has been deleting all negative comments from her Facebook page today.. Now when I go there there is no option to leave any comments at all. Did she block it for everone or am I somehow blocked?
I'm sure that statistic would have comforted Ms. Collins when she was forced into the act.
After all the comments where people say they should just pee or poop or vomit on the attacker....can people actually command this on demand...I mean seriously, do these people walk around with a turtle head poking out or their bladder ready to release on command?
These statements of crap yourself, prove the deterioration of the American culture. A nation that settled the frontier, provided heroes such as Hugh Glass, and defeated the nazis and Japanese at the same time, now says don't fight back, crap yourself, its disgusting.
Furthermore, what about the freedom to die fighting back, instead of living with surrender!!
These statements of crap yourself, prove the deterioration of the American culture. A nation that settled the frontier, provided heroes such as Hugh Glass, and defeated the nazis and Japanese at the same time, now says don't fight back, crap yourself, its disgusting.
Furthermore, what about the freedom to die fighting back, instead of living with surrender!!
Exactly! Now we're at the point where we should either degrade ourselves to lower standards than what we treat prisoners of war (and suspected terrorists), or just "let rape happen." No. Fuck the democratic party for even thinking of shit like this!
They over value life. It's as simple as that. They try to put laws into place that "preserve" life. Just lay back, take it and hope you get to live to see another day. Screw that. There are some things worth fighting for in life, even if it means risking your life. They just don't understand that because they're all about "feelings" and everyone's equal.
They over value life. It's as simple as that. They try to put laws into place that "preserve" life. Just lay back, take it and hope you get to live to see another day. Screw that. There are some things worth fighting for in life, even if it means risking your life. They just don't understand that because they're all about "feelings" and everyone's equal.
Unless we're talking about abortion... Which I find they are the most hypocritical of all.
I'm not a staunch pro-lifer, but think that, as with everything else, reason, understanding, common sense, safety for those involved, and the specific situation all have to be taken into considered before making a decision to end a life. Much like CCW...
Rucker61
03-07-2013, 15:15
The Denver Post has hopped on the bandwagon:
http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_22731898/colorado-sen-evie-hudak-disrespected-rape-victim?utm_medium=facebook
Wow, the Denver Post/Pravda even said that? Impressive.
She was supposed to have a Townhall meeting this week and cancelled citing busy legislative duties. The Dems are self-immolating with this shit, and she doesnt win up here by large margins. I think she is toast.
Kraven251
03-07-2013, 16:16
She was supposed to have a Townhall meeting this week and cancelled citing busy legislative duties. The Dems are self-immolating with this shit, and she doesnt win up here by large margins. I think she is toast.
I'd say get the butter, but I am pretty sure she found it already.
Rooskibar03
03-07-2013, 16:21
Isn't it interesting how Progressives proclaim that a woman's body is her own and she is free to choose what happens to the life inside her body yet in the same breath tell that same woman how she can (or cannot) protect her own body.
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Wow, the Denver Post/Pravda even said that? Impressive. Not so fast. http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_22738996/which-gun-bills-should-be-law</p>
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It is no wonder this editorial staff keep approving BS articles of anti-gun propaganda.</p>
XC700116
03-07-2013, 17:31
They over value life. It's as simple as that. They try to put laws into place that "preserve" life. Just lay back, take it and hope you get to live to see another day. Screw that. There are some things worth fighting for in life, even if it means risking your life. They just don't understand that because they're all about "feelings" and everyone's equal.
No they don't, it's all a narative to attempt to get at what they truly value, POWER. They could give 2 shits if you live, die, are raped, disfigured, or drug down the street while on fire. If they see a chance at more power, they go for it.
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