View Full Version : TAKE ACTION TODAY! Status of Colorado Gun Control Bills
From Zak Smith:
Here is the update.
SB-196 (AW "Liability" Ban) - Tabled
HB-1226 (No CCW on Campus) - Tabled
HB-1229 ("UBC") - STILL ACTIVE
HB-1224 ("Mag ban") STILL ACTIVE
The final vote on these in the Senate is on Monday.
THIS WEEKEND I need everyone to email, call, and/or meet with their
Senators in addition to these ones in the following list (who may be
"swing" voters).
Senator Angela Giron -SD03- (303)866-4878
angela.giron.senate@state.co.us
Senator Jeanne Nicholson -SD16- (303)866-4873
jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us
Senator Cheri Jahn -SD20- (303)866-4856
cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us
Senator Nancy Todd -SD28- (303)866-3432
nancy.todd.senate@state.co.us
Senator Andy Kerr -SD22- (303)866-4859
andy.kerr.senate@state.co.us
Senator Linda Newell -SD26- (303)866-4846
linda.newell.senate@gmail.com
Senator Gail Schwartz - SD05- (303)866-4871
gail.schwartz.senate@gmail.com
BE POLITE!!!!!
Here is the list of all (D) Senators
angela.giron.senate@state.co.us, gail.schwartz.senate@gmail.com,
john.morse.senate@state.co.us, john.kefalas.senate@state.co.us,
jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us, senatormattjones@gmail.com,
rollie.heath.senate@state.co.us, senatorhudak@gmail.com,
cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us, jessie.ulibarri.senate@state.co.us,
andy.kerr.senate@state.co.us, lotochtrop@aol.com,
mary.hodge.senate@state.co.us, linda.newell.senate@gmail.com,
nancy.todd.senate@state.co.us, morgan.carroll.senate@state.co.us,
pat.steadman.senate@state.co.us, irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us,
mike.johnston.senate@state.co.us, lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us
Here is a list of all (R) Senators. They are all voting WITH US on
these bills but it wouldn't hurt to send them a THANK YOU note, since
they worked their asses off to stop these.
greg@gregbrophy.net, kevin.grantham.senate@state.co.us,
mark.scheffel.senate@state.co.us, ellen.roberts.senate@state.co.us,
steve.king.senate@state.co.us, randy.baumgardner.senate@state.co.us,
senatorlambert@comcast.net, owen.hill.senate@state.co.us,
bill.cadman.senate@state.co.us, senatorrenfroe@gmail.com,
kevin@kevinlundberg.com, vicki.marble.senate@state.co.us,
david.balmer.senate@state.co.us, ted.harvey.senate@state.co.us,
larry.crowder.senate@state.co.us
StagLefty
03-09-2013, 14:45
We especially need to thank those who believe "by the people for the people". Thank you e-mail sent and vote no request sent to the Dems. Thanks JVC
gnihcraes
03-09-2013, 14:53
Just emailed those against, and sent a thank you to the others. Thanks JVC
Sent them all emails. Hopefully something works
whitbaby
03-09-2013, 15:44
JV -
Sure appreciate your efforts in getting/sorting all their email addys. Sure makes it easier to send a mass mailing.
My last one had this:
Dear Senator -
I'm getting the feeling that a certain element in this country are trying to legislate private gun ownership out of existence.
Consider this:
If the Bloomberg's, Obama's and other naive, vote-seeking legislators get their way and private gun ownership is banned, do you really think the police will stop carrying their guns? ... OF COURSE NOT ... because the criminals won't pay any attention to these laws either!
Respectfully,
s/
JV -
Sure appreciate your efforts in getting/sorting all their email addys. Sure makes it easier to send a mass mailing.
My last one had this:
Dear Senator -
I'm getting the feeling that a certain element in this country are trying to legislate private gun ownership out of existence.
Consider this:
If the Bloomberg's, Obama's and other naive, vote-seeking legislators get their way and private gun ownership is banned, do you really think the police will stop carrying their guns? ... OF COURSE NOT ... because the criminals won't pay any attention to these laws either!
Respectfully,
s/
I would not attack Obama in your letters. You have to remember they voted for him and aspire to be like him in many ways so they may take it as a personal attack. Just save it for your thank you letters to repub senators, they will enjoy it.
johngraves2
03-09-2013, 16:17
Done and done.
I'm appealing to their sense of social justice. Making the point that legalizing cannabis is good for taxation, and keeping non-violent drug users out of jail. Allowing civil unions among the gay community so that they can be afforded the same rights as married straight couples, so all that's left to do is to allow ALL law abiding citizens the right to bear arms and not infringe on that fundamental Constitutional right.
Colopatt
03-09-2013, 18:27
Done. Thanks for compiling the addresses.
You are welcome, and I will continue to post useful, actionable information. Your responses prove it is worth it!
osok-308
03-09-2013, 21:06
Just sent them this:
I am a registered voter in Douglas County. Along with being a registered voter, I am also a student at the University of Colorado Denver and a new husband. I believe that any and all further gun legislation will be detrimental to the state, and may in fact make Coloradans less safe, especially HB 1224 and I hope to (briefly) explain why. I purchased a handgun for personal defense back in 2009 at the age of 22. As with many consumers, I looked into all of the options for purchasing one and after long debate, I purchased a Springfield Armory XDM in .40 caliber, I have since shot this gun to increase both my proficiency for self defense and trust it with my life. Now here is the kicker, magazines for the Springfield XDM in .40 caliber are only available in the standard capacity 16-round magazines, no company makes an aftermarket small capacity magazine less than 16 rounds. As a mechanical object my gun is subject to parts wear and breaking. What this legislation will do is make it illegal to fix my handgun should a magazine break and require fixing, leaving my wife and I defenseless. Also, I would be unable to sell my firearm back to a gun store, because it would be useless without it's magazines, the firearm is useless. As I mentioned before, I am married. My wife's family is from California and having traveled there numerous times, I am familiar with their more restrictive gun laws. It may surprise you that these laws appear to have no effect on crime in their state, in fact, other places with restrictive laws are known as the places where crime is most rampant; California, Chicago, New York, DC. Despite Colorado's "lax" gun laws, according to FBI statistics, the murder rate in Colorado is almost half that of the rest of the country. Limiting magazine capacity removes no magazines from criminals and even law enforcement officers have no idea on how to actually enforce this legislation. The only thing this bill ensures is that criminals will be better armed than law-abiding citizens. Please share this with your fellow legislators and let them know that Colorado needs no more gun laws.
Done. Thanks for compiling those addresses.
Rucker61
03-10-2013, 11:45
Thanks for the addresses. Here's what I sent out:
Dear Senator,
I apologize in advance for the length of this missive, especially in this busy time. I’m writing you in reference to three bills currently in the Senate awaiting the third reading on Monday. I’m a husband, father, former military officer and businessman who has voted Democrat for 32 years. I watched all of the House and Senate committee and general discussion online for all of the gun control legislation, so I am aware of all of the discussion and testimony that were available through that means.
I am against violence and crime, as are all good citizens, and I believe strongly in the rights of the citizens of the USA, but I don’t believe that three of the hastily written and seriously flawed bills that you will vote on will accomplish the desired goal of reducing violence in Colorado. I urge a No vote on HB-1224, HB-1228 and HB-1229. I know that voting against the party line will require a significant amount of moral courage, and I trust that you will do the right thing.
HB-1228 – Fee for conducting a background check.
The first major flaw is that there will be insufficient oversight to ensure that the fees remain fair, collecting only the direct and indirect costs. Given the political nature of the office of the head of CBI, it could be all too easy to manipulate the data behind the fee to create barriers to de facto gun control.
Two, the argument that other citizens seeking state or other governmental services pay fees for those services is somewhat valid. I say somewhat in that the fees imposed by this bill can greatly exceed those imposed on similar services. My car tags are good for a year. My driver’ license is good for four years. My wife, who is an educator in this state, pays for her own CBI background check, but that BGC is good for five years. Even the CCW permit has a four year life. This bill, however, requires me to pay a fee, currently unbounded, for every purchase or transfer. That’s patently unfair. If a CCW, which requires a much stricter background check and grants much more authority with regards to legal firearms ownership, presumes that the holder is a law abiding citizen for four years, why would the mere purchase or transfer require a BGC and its attendant fee every time? A BGC is on the person, not the firearm.
It’s entirely unnecessary. CBI duplicates efforts by the FBI.
For these three reasons, I ask for a No vote on HB-1228, as it combines with HB-1229 to set an undue and unfair burden on legal gun owners in this state.
HB 1229 Universal Background Checks
It’s unenforceable. The collective Sheriffs of Colorado testified multiple times that there is no way to enforce it without a gun/owner registry. As we don’t currently have one, and it is illegal according to federal law to create one, we’re left with a law that our law enforcement officials cannot enforce. True, the various Police Chiefs said that they were in favor of this bill, but they never said why, and in what manner they would enforce this law. The Sheriffs were very specific in how the law wouldn’t work.
It doesn’t stop criminals from purchasing firearms. It saddens me that the oft-debunked claim that 40% of gun sales don’t go through a licensed FFL and background check is still used as a justification for this bill. According to The Washington Post, the contentious statistic (actually 35.7 percent) comes from a 1994 survey of 251 people that was cited in a 1997 Institute of Justice report. The report's claims were revived in a 2011 study by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg's office, which claimed that “40 percent of guns are sold through private sellers.”
Most of the survey covered sales before the Brady Act instituted mandatory federal background checks in early 1994. Included in that 35.7 percent of sales or transfers conducted without background checks are firearms given as inheritances or as gifts among family members, which would remain exempt under Obama's universal background checks system.
According to economist and author John Lott, "unless you include family inheritances and gifts as 'purchases,' [the 40 percent claim] is simply false." He maintains the "true number of guns 'sold' without check is closer to 10 percent."
Criminals will purchase from other criminals without using the background check system.
Proponents cite that a large number of people were denied purchases due to failing a background check, keeping them from buying firearms.
Actually, it only kept them from buying those particular firearms. Unless they were incarcerated, and I think you’ll find that the levels of incarceration were statistically insignificant, those denied were free to purchase a weapon on the black market.
How many of these were actually false positives?
How many false negatives did we have? The killers at Aurora and Virginia Tech easily passed their BGCs. Unless we strengthen the check to filter out those mentally disturbed individuals, they will continue to have access to firearms, criminals will continue to purchase on the black market, and we will have create an undue burden on our citizens.
This bill doesn’t account for the necessary infrastructure outside of the State’s system. For a mandated maximum fee of $10 (note: the State isn’t so limited), the FFL may, not must, conduct the transfer with the associated BGC. Testimony from at least one gun shop owner included seemingly ignored problems.
FFLs aren’t staffed for this increase in BCGs and associated tasks
FFLs aren’t adequately remunerated for this increase. Time and staff doing transfers aren’t selling for-profit goods, and ten dollars may not cover their direct and indirect costs.
FFLs don’t have the storage for this increase. The firearm(s) being transferred are required to remain in the control of the FFL until the transfer is complete, and the transfer records are required to be stored for 20 years.
FFLs aren’t actually required to do this. Citizens may find it difficult to legally transfer firearms if there are insufficient FFLs available and willing to participate in this program.
Criminalizes common, non-dangerous behavior.
The entire transfer amendment is not aimed at criminals; it’s directly aimed at citizens. The disallowing of a trust transfer is an obvious tip-off, as criminals won’t spend the $1000 to create a trust to purchase a $400 handgun.
It would require a background check and fees to loan a hunting rifle to my best friend for a period longer than 72 hours, and the same upon its return.
If I loan a hunting rifle to my best friend for the exempted less than 72 hour period, and for some reason (illness, weather, etc.) he is unable to return it in time, he has committed a Class 1 Misdemeanor, which would prevent him from owning firearms for two years if convicted.
As an example of how this bill would work in practice, let me demonstrate a personal concern. I work for a large, international company and frequently travel to Asia for work. These trips are in excess of ten days. As I have 10 guns in my safe, and my wife will need access to those guns to protect our family, we will need to transfer them. Since I'm fully expecting to retain ownership of those guns upon my return, I can't bona fide gift those to her, and even though the sponsor in committee said to “temporarily gift” them, that is a Class 1 Misdemeanor. So, we have to go to an FFL, with all my guns, and transfer them, at a cost of both the FFL transfer fee and the CBI BGC fee. Nothing prevents the FFL from charging per gun, and given that this transaction is a negative margin transaction for the FFL, a smart FFL will charge by the gun. That’s $200+ to allow my wife to protect herself using her 2A rights. Upon my return we do the same thing all over again in reverse, paying another $200 to the FFL for the pure purpose of retaining my constitutionally protected rights. I travel multiple times per year, so this bill would require me to pay over $1600 per year to keep my property and protect my family.
Please vote No on HB-1228 and HB-1229
HB-1228 and HB-1229 would work and approach fairness if a BGC was good for an extended time, perhaps with the issuance of an ID card similar to a CCW. It seems ludicrous that we the people trust a CCW holder to carry an concealed weapon, without concern, for four years, but the mere transfer of a firearm to from one citizen to another requires a BGC every time. I know from conversations among other firearms owners that we would embrace the ability to avoid a BGC with the possession of a CCW or blanket BGC ID card as is common in other states. This is common sense gun law.
HB 1224--Limiting the size of magazines
It doesn’t have an effect on gun violence. While it’s commonly stated that a smaller magazine capacity will make us safer, studies show that it isn’t true. The killers at Virginia Tech and Eric Harris at Columbine both had firearms with magazines that would have been legal under this bill. It is frequently cited that in the Gifford shooting, the killer was subdued while reloading, and that this single incident justifies this law. I’d say that this a dangerous supposition, as it presupposes that future incidences will depend on brave bystanders tackling an attacker during reloading. It didn’t work in Sandy Hook, as six year olds are notoriously poor tacklers. It didn’t work at Columbine, it didn’t work at Virginia Tech and it didn’t work in Aurora for either of the well-known incidences. In one of those Aurora tragedies, accurate return fire ended the incident with much lesser loss of life.
It doesn’t make us safer as this ban will not and cannot prevent a criminal from buying from illegal sources, out of state legal sources or simply making them himself through advancing 3D printer technology. There are already millions of these in circulation, and without confiscation, these will remain available. Magazines are durable goods, and frequently last 20 years or more. Vietnam War era magazines are still in use.
As reported by the Sheriffs, this bill would be unenforceable. As the possession of these magazines is grandfathered, and it is not a requirement that data codes accompany the manufacture of a magazine, there is no way to tell if a magazine was acquired legally prior to the ban or illegally post-ban.
It will ensure that criminals will be better armed than the citizens of this state, should the citizens actually comply with this bill.
As a hopefully unintended consequence, it does make nearly every magazine in existence illegal, even those that meet the capacity limitations quantified in the bill, as the language including “easily convertible magazines” would include nearly every magazine currently in production. This in turn makes the firearms that use these legal turned illegal magazines equally proscribed, resulting in a de facto gun ban.
I urge you to vote no on HB-1224.
I understand the desire to use your power as an elected official to keep our citizens safe, and that you feel a great urgency in the light of the recent tragedies to do some now. However, the mantra of “we need to do something” only works if you do the right thing. As has been pointed out many times, including in this letter, these laws won’t increase public safety as written. According to FBI statistics, 95% of all homicides are committed using means other than rifles, and 95% of homicides result in the death of 3 or fewer victims. According to CDC data most of the killers and most of the victims fall into the demographic of young minority males. None of this legislation is aimed at protecting that demographic from itself, and none of this legislation is aimed at preventing mentally disturbed people from acquiring firearms. Have we simply given up on those people?
I can be reached at 970 xxx-xxxx for any discussion or questions.
Regards,
<Rucker61>
Fort Collins
I sent my OPEN LETTER TO THE COLORADO SENATE http://jamesviser.com/?p=460
Eggysrun
03-10-2013, 12:52
I emailed them, summarized I urged them to have courage against the party and outside pressure on these issues and that voting for what they and their voters think is right is more important than voting for or against any bill. That this is a Colorado issue and not a Democrat vs Republican issue.
Party aside, I'd be pretty pissed off at elected officials having their votes being influenced by outsiders.
Dlesh123
03-10-2013, 17:30
Sent Vote NO emails and Thank You emails.
Now we wait and get ready for the next round
Sharpienads
03-10-2013, 22:31
Done. Sent thank yous and encouragements to vote no.
FromMyColdDeadHand
03-11-2013, 07:26
Zak,
Thanks for doing so much to help fight this. With out organizers like you, we wouldn't be fighting the mag ban, they'd be passing the 'liability' law. I sent another round of emails and tried to keep it short. Blomberg's billions will not counter boots on the ground for the next elections.
wctriumph
03-11-2013, 08:04
The bad guys are pulling out all the stops to make Colorado into the newest Criminal Safe Zone, I woke up this morning and found this in my inbox:
Below is an email from Bruce Hoppe, a MoveOn member in Windsor, CO, who created a petition on SignOn.org, the nonprofit site that allows anyone to start their own online petition. If you have concerns or feedback about this petition, click here (http://civic.moveon.org/signon_feedback/?id=64038-25156457-5Zr6JGx&t=1).
Dear Colorado MoveOn member,
Even though I have hunted and fished all my life, I believe that something needs to be done about the proliferation of private arms ownership, which has created a serious public health and safety problem. As drivers, we accept the responsibility for carrying liability insurance. Background checks and limitations on large-capacity ammunition magazines are comparable. We should support these pieces of legislation when they come up for a vote next week.
That's why I created a petition on SignOn.org to the Colorado Legislature, and Governor John Hickenlooper, which says:
Support HB 1224, which prohibits large-capacity ammunition magazines and HB 1229, which requires background checks for gun transfers.
Click here to add your name to this petition, and then pass it along to your friends. (http://www.moveon.org/r?r=287911&id=64038-25156457-5Zr6JGx&t=2)
Thanks!
–Bruce Hoppe
This petition was created on SignOn.org, the progressive, nonprofit petition site. SignOn.org is sponsored by MoveOn Civic Action, which is not responsible for the contents of this or other petitions posted on the site. Bruce Hoppe didn't pay us to send this email—we never rent or sell the MoveOn.org list.
Want to support our work? MoveOn Civic Action is entirely funded by our 7 million members—no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here.
(https://civic.moveon.org/donatec4/creditcard.html?cpn_id=457&id=64038-25156457-5Zr6JGx)
ronaldrwl
03-11-2013, 08:32
emailed all the SOB's, good and bad.
ronaldrwl
03-11-2013, 08:58
First response:
As a supporter
of the Constitution,I will not weaken on any bill that infringes upon our gun
rights. I will be voting no on all.
Senator Larry
Crowder
Republican,
Veteran, and a believer in this nation
This people don't hear, they know that all citizens forget in 4 years. My experience with sending emails is: all Republicans reply me back saying that they don't support any of this bills (obvious) ( some of then now send me emails every week about other political issues ahhhh) and the democrats don't reply me any email, simple!
I imagine that all democrats have programmed an auto-trash service in their emails for the ones that have "vote no", "2enmenment" and other keywords send it to the trash automatically.
osok-308
03-11-2013, 09:09
The bad guys are pulling out all the stops to make Colorado into the newest Criminal Safe Zone, I woke up this morning and found this in my inbox:
Below is an email from Bruce Hoppe, a MoveOn member in Windsor, CO, who created a petition on SignOn.org, the nonprofit site that allows anyone to start their own online petition. If you have concerns or feedback about this petition, click here (http://civic.moveon.org/signon_feedback/?id=64038-25156457-5Zr6JGx&t=1).
Dear Colorado MoveOn member,
Even though I have hunted and fished all my life, I believe that something needs to be done about the proliferation of private arms ownership, which has created a serious public health and safety problem. As drivers, we accept the responsibility for carrying liability insurance. Background checks and limitations on large-capacity ammunition magazines are comparable. We should support these pieces of legislation when they come up for a vote next week.
That's why I created a petition on SignOn.org to the Colorado Legislature, and Governor John Hickenlooper, which says:
Support HB 1224, which prohibits large-capacity ammunition magazines and HB 1229, which requires background checks for gun transfers.
Click here to add your name to this petition, and then pass it along to your friends. (http://www.moveon.org/r?r=287911&id=64038-25156457-5Zr6JGx&t=2)
Thanks!
–Bruce Hoppe
This petition was created on SignOn.org, the progressive, nonprofit petition site. SignOn.org is sponsored by MoveOn Civic Action, which is not responsible for the contents of this or other petitions posted on the site. Bruce Hoppe didn't pay us to send this email—we never rent or sell the MoveOn.org list.
Want to support our work? MoveOn Civic Action is entirely funded by our 7 million members—no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here.
(https://civic.moveon.org/donatec4/creditcard.html?cpn_id=457&id=64038-25156457-5Zr6JGx)
you should reply something like this:
Dear gun-grabbing jackwagon,
We license people to drive, because they drive on federal owned roads and there is no constitutional right regarding driving as a right of free people. There is however an Amendment regarding the right to keep and bear arms. It says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". I would argue to tell you that in the wake of the NFA of 1934, that our right has been under attack. and the federal government has been infringing on this right. I would like to invite you to go eat a bag of d*cks.
[Coffee]
Cylinder Head
03-11-2013, 09:47
The bad guys are pulling out all the stops to make Colorado into the newest Criminal Safe Zone, I woke up this morning and found this in my inbox:
Below is an email from Bruce Hoppe, a MoveOn member in Windsor, CO, who created a petition on SignOn.org, the nonprofit site that allows anyone to start their own online petition. If you have concerns or feedback about this petition, click here (http://civic.moveon.org/signon_feedback/?id=64038-25156457-5Zr6JGx&t=1).
Dear Colorado MoveOn member,
Even though I have hunted and fished all my life, I believe that something needs to be done about the proliferation of private arms ownership, which has created a serious public health and safety problem. As drivers, we accept the responsibility for carrying liability insurance. Background checks and limitations on large-capacity ammunition magazines are comparable. We should support these pieces of legislation when they come up for a vote next week.
That's why I created a petition on SignOn.org to the Colorado Legislature, and Governor John Hickenlooper, which says:
Support HB 1224, which prohibits large-capacity ammunition magazines and HB 1229, which requires background checks for gun transfers.
Click here to add your name to this petition, and then pass it along to your friends. (http://www.moveon.org/r?r=287911&id=64038-25156457-5Zr6JGx&t=2)
Thanks!
–Bruce Hoppe
This petition was created on SignOn.org, the progressive, nonprofit petition site. SignOn.org is sponsored by MoveOn Civic Action, which is not responsible for the contents of this or other petitions posted on the site. Bruce Hoppe didn't pay us to send this email—we never rent or sell the MoveOn.org list.
Want to support our work? MoveOn Civic Action is entirely funded by our 7 million members—no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here.
(https://civic.moveon.org/donatec4/creditcard.html?cpn_id=457&id=64038-25156457-5Zr6JGx)
Look at this doozy from one of the recent signers:
There is absolutely no need fro anybody to own a gun. The 2nd amendment does not give any person the right to owe a gun. There are too many guns out there and too many fools owning them.
ronaldrwl
03-11-2013, 11:02
Got this reply:
"Ronald, thank you for your email. Indeed, I completely agree with you. As a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, I will continue to oppose all gun control bills. I already voted “NO’ on all seven Democrat gun control bills. You can count on me to reject any restrictions on your Second Amendment rights.
We were on the Senate Floor Friday for more than 14 hours (9:00 AM to 11:05 PM) with no breaks. The Democrats attempted to cram down 7 awful gun control bills, which I vehemently opposed. Unfortunately, the Democrats passed 5 of the 7 bills on 2nd Reading. Third reading for the these 5 bills will be on Monday. We expect Monday’s session to be just as long. No Republican Legislator has voted for a single gun control bill (every Republican Legislator has voted NO). The Democrats control both the Colorado House & Colorado Senate. Every bill has to pass both chambers with three separate readings.
Please forgive the brevity of this reply. As a State Legislator, I do not have any staff. Right now I am receiving over 500 emails a day, and I try to reply to all of them in my district. I spend about 3 to 4 hours a day replying to emails. I’m honored to represent you at the State Capitol.
Respectfully, David
Senator David Balmer
Colorado State Capitol
Republican, Arapahoe County
www.davidbalmer.com (wlmailhtml:{8867EA75-4024-43E1-9714-5B95AF8A566C}mid://00004265/!x-usc:http://www.davidbalmer.com/)
BE AS GOOD AS YOUR DOG
"
JohnnyEgo
03-11-2013, 12:17
I sent the following message to the Democratic Senators listed on the front page. I previously sent a bunch of well-reasoned argument and got nowhere. This time, I went for the 'audacity of hope' approach:
Dear Senator X:
I am asking you to vote ‘no’ on Senate/House Bill 1224, the magazine limitation legislation. The part I object to most is the prohibition on sale or transfer of existing high capacity magazines. Should I wish to sell a firearm that uses one of these magazines, I will not be able to sell a functional firearm, which will diminish the value of my asset. The fact that I can’t transfer these magazines means that I cannot give any of my firearms to my son when he comes of age.
The reason this is important to me is that one day, I want my son to have the option to inherit my firearms. Perhaps he will have the same love of the shooting sports I have. Perhaps he will want to intern with Alvin Ailey or Limon. Either way, I want him to have some recourse to recover the value of my firearms and associated magazines to fulfill whatever dreams he has.
Please vote ‘No’ on HB1224.
Thank you,
JohnnyEgo
Windsor, CO
robertcolorado2009
03-11-2013, 12:34
1229 was passed right before the break
1229 was passed right before the break
That is not effective until July 1st?
clublights
03-11-2013, 19:32
That is not effective until July 1st?
Has to make another round thru the house due to amendments.
And still has to be signed by the gov.
Meanwhile, other Western states move to protect their residents rights. Colorado where art thou?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/12/us-usa-guns-idaho-idUSBRE92B04I20130312
whitbaby
03-13-2013, 10:31
Our liberal CO legislators are too busy with Civil Unions and glorifying marijuana use to do anything truly significant.
Our liberal CO legislators are too busy with Civil Unions and glorifying marijuana use to do anything truly significant.
they happily put those important issues on the back burner to deal with the pressing issue of gun rights.
losttrail
03-13-2013, 11:24
Our liberal CO legislators are too busy with Civil Unions and glorifying marijuana use to do anything truly significant.
Lets not forget granting in-state tuition to illegals, free healthcare to illegals, wanting to give drivers licenses to illegals.
maybe if we all renounce our citizenship we can ignore all the gun laws plus get other peoples money.
whitbaby
03-13-2013, 16:43
Lets not forget granting in-state tuition to illegals, free healthcare to illegals, wanting to give drivers licenses to illegals.
maybe if we all renounce our citizenship we can ignore all the gun laws plus get other peoples money.
Yeah, then if we get CAUGHT doing anything we can scamper south to their border sanctuary.
LigersRCool
03-13-2013, 17:51
http://www.colorado.gov/govhdir/requests/opinion-leg.html
Let the Governor know your opinion
Done, I plagiarized part of rucker61's other post.
Please consider that criminals, by definition, do not obey laws.
Therefore, it stands to reason that the only stated purpose for this bill as enacted is “The general assembly hereby finds, determines, and declares that this act is necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, and safety”, and that the only demographic that will be immediately affected by this legislation are law abiding Coloradans, it is readily apparent that the sponsors and supporters of this bill regard the greatest risk to public peace, health, and safety to be the law-abiding citizens of the State of Colorado, not the criminal and mentally deficient.
I urge you to VETO HB-13-1224
The good people of Colorado will not stand idly by and allow our rights to be stripped without swift and just political consequence.
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