View Full Version : Giffords buys an AR
scratchy
03-09-2013, 21:25
Incorrectly titled. Should read "Kelly buys an AR" I'm a brain addled old guy.
Can you spell hypocrisy?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/09/Gabby-Giffords-Husband-Buys-AR-15-Announces-He-s-Not-Keeping-It-After-News-Leaks-Out
Mark E. Kelly, gun-control proponent and husband to former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, recently purchased an AR-15 (an "assault weapon," he called it)—which he now says he intended as an illustration of the need for more stringent gun laws.
Kelly reportedly bought the AR-15 and a 1911-style semi-automatic pistol at Diamondback Police Supply in Tucson, Arizona.
Various sources contacted Breitbart News once Kelly made the purchase, and after we began investigating the details surrounding the purchase, Kelly announced on his Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=474203615968235&set=a.215073368547929.71130.163148530407080&type=1) that he was not going to keep the AR-15, which he has yet to pick up from the store.
Days after making the purchases, Kelly wrote on Facebook:
I just had a background check a few days ago when I went to my local gun store to buy a .45. As I was leaving, I noticed a used AR-15. Bought that too. Even to buy an assault weapon, the background check only takes a matter of minutes. I don't have possession of it yet but I'll be turning it over to the Tucson PD when I do.
In February, Kelly told Fox News Sunday's Chris Wallace that lawmakers need to address "assault weapons (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace/2013/02/03/capt-mark-kelly-wayne-lapierre-chances-compromise-gun-control-debate#p//v/2139988959001)." He said the purpose of an "assault weapon" is "to kill a lot of people very quickly," and he lamented that such products were "too readily available."
Kelly has not commented on whether he will also return the .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol he purchased.
Photo: Captain Mark Kelly/Facebook
Kraven251
03-09-2013, 21:28
Color me surprised...
idiot.
blacklabel
03-09-2013, 21:30
What a tool.
ChunkyMonkey
03-09-2013, 21:30
He is definitely an elitist. He can own one but everyone else beneath him... too low to be trusted with the very same tool.
nzachman
03-09-2013, 21:40
Do as I say not as I do.
Troublco
03-09-2013, 21:46
Hard to believe he was a military officer. But I've seen a few real tools in the military, too, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
Flying the space shuttle. So easy a hypocritical liberal fuckstain can do it.
Tinelement
03-09-2013, 21:50
Weren't they just here testifying about how bad these evil weapons are??
No surprise here
BushMasterBoy
03-09-2013, 21:53
A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens. Giffords husband probably has his sights set on a political career...
generalmeow
03-09-2013, 22:06
He bought a gun at a gun store with the intention of dropping it off at the police station afterwards? What is he going to say? "You guys will never believe what I bought at a gun store! Please get rid of this thing!"
A fucking liar. He got caught buying these weapons, and is now backpedaling.
He said the purpose of an "assault weapon" is "to kill a lot of people very quickly," and he lamented that such products were "too readily available."
Then mine are defective as they haven't killed anyone, much less a lot of people.
As for being available, he hasn't been shopping in the same stores I normally go to.
Kelly is entitled to his opinion. I choose to respectfully disagree with him. What happened to his wife was tragic. If he gets what he wants, does he really believe that no one else will ever be victimized by violent criminals?
I wonder why he is wasting his money. I will give him more for that AR than the Tuscon PD will. [Flower]
hurley842002
03-09-2013, 22:22
Amazing! Maybe Mr. Kelly's FB page needs bombarded as well....
blacklabel
03-09-2013, 22:26
what I posted to his FB page:
Congrats on the AR purchase! Isn't America and the right to bear arms an amazing thing?!
BuffCyclist
03-09-2013, 22:26
I wonder why he is wasting his money. I will give him more for that AR than the Tuscon PD will. [Flower]
A fucking liar. He got caught buying these weapons, and is now backpedaling.
And there's your answer. He wanted to buy one before they were banned. Then, when news leaked that he purchased it, he decided to save face by saying he was going to turn it over. If he really wanted no one to know or to prove his point that they're too easy to get, he should have purchased it in a private party transaction where there are no records or simple background checks.
Then again, if he was just purchasing it to get it off the streets, they should raid his house because I'm sure he's got many kilos of drugs there too, that he's waiting to turn over to the police. [facepalm]
There's no shortage of things to be angry about with these people.
Flatline
03-09-2013, 22:50
Hard to believe he was a military officer. But I've seen a few real tools in the military, too, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
It seems to me that the military isn't a big fan of private firearm ownership. Try taking a gun on post sometime.
Idiot, typical. He has bodyguard for him as well. Caught in he act and like many of you say he obviously got caught is not back-peddling. I have am idea. Stay out of Colorado and stop your double standards.
scratchy
03-09-2013, 23:01
Even if he did turn it in to Tuscon PD, that's Arizona. Don't they resell back to the market anyway? He could have just written a check. What a tool.
One of my favorite comments on his FB page:
"Please pack your ass up and move to NY!"
He bought a gun at a gun store with the intention of dropping it off at the police station afterwards? What is he going to say? "You guys will never believe what I bought at a gun store! Please get rid of this thing!"
A fucking liar. He got caught buying these weapons, and is now backpedaling.
Given his history as someone who engages in fairly slimey behavior I think you nailed it on the head.
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Sharpienads
03-09-2013, 23:14
It seems to me that the military isn't a big fan of private firearm ownership. Try taking a gun on post sometime.
I don't think that has anything to do with the military. I thought that was a federal law.
So, basically Kelley is a straw purchaser for Tucson PD?
I hate to break it to him, but he didn't purchase an assault weapon. Those are controlled by the ATF.
robertcolorado2009
03-09-2013, 23:15
What was he trying to prove???? He is the biggest ass I have ever been aware of. WHY? What is he trying to prove?To begin with he had NO right to testify in Colorado about OUR laws! His wife was assaulted in Arizona, what in God's name does that have to do with Colorado???? How does this reflect OUR laws!!! This Democrap movement is the biggest example of tyranny I have EVER witnessed. How can we stand here without wanting to(hypothetically of course) decapatate the head of the snake. NO one said anything(that I remember) about this out of state interloper and wife(I'm sorry she's had enough sympathy from Colorado) and the right she/he has to say one FUCKING word about our state laws! They might have had Bloomberg/Biden himself testify here. I have not ever witnessed a more unjust round of aloofness by those democraps than what took place Friday. I am so disgusted by the "process" that I almost want to move to Swaziland(which I don't think exists anymore)(i.e. just any off the grid country that does exist).
BuffCyclist
03-09-2013, 23:25
So, basically Kelley is a straw purchaser for Tucson PD?
Oh yea, I thought of this too but forgot to mention it in my earlier post. Its definitely a straw purchase if he plans to turn it over to someone else.
I don't think that has anything to do with the military. I thought that was a federal law.
The military has additional rules, which vary between bases at the Commander's whim. When I was in, no-one under E5 was allowed to have a private firearm in on base housing, even a single-shot .22 rifle.
What was he trying to prove???? He is the biggest ass I have ever been aware of. WHY? What is he trying to prove?To begin with he had NO right to testify in Colorado about OUR laws! His wife was assaulted in Arizona, what in God's name does that have to do with Colorado???? How does this reflect OUR laws!!! This Democrap movement is the biggest example of tyranny I have EVER witnessed. How can we stand here without wanting to(hypothetically of course) decapatate the head of the snake. NO one said anything(that I remember) about this out of state interloper and wife(I'm sorry she's had enough sympathy from Colorado) and the right she/he has to say one FUCKING word about our state laws! They might have had Bloomberg/Biden himself testify here. I have not ever witnessed a more unjust round of aloofness by those democraps than what took place Friday. I am so disgusted by the "process" that I almost want to move to Swaziland(which I don't think exists anymore)(i.e. just any off the grid country that does exist).
At least he is a citizen. What about that guy from Canada testifying.
Jefe's AR
03-09-2013, 23:49
Maybe he thought he could flip it on Armslist for a profit.[Coffee]
Katastrophic
03-10-2013, 00:05
If one is so against guns, why support the market? It's like buying puppy mill dogs - the more people buy, the more they make.
Sharpienads
03-10-2013, 00:22
If one is so against guns, why support the market? It's like buying puppy mill dogs - the more people buy, the more they make.
Good point. Also, if he passed the background check, why shouldn't he be able to own the rifle?
His whole excuse is so full of holes. I smell [pileoshit]
68Charger
03-10-2013, 00:47
propaganda- added to a few posts on his page... Law-abiding citizens SHOULD be able to buy these without resistance- does he think himself a criminal? I love the straw purchase comment- Federal law doesn't state who the other party is...
To begin with he had NO right to testify in Colorado about OUR laws! His wife was assaulted in Arizona, what in God's name does that have to do with Colorado???? How does this reflect OUR laws!!!
While I understand where you are coming from... I'm glad they didn't disallow non-Colorado citizens from testifying because I believe the testimony of Amanda Collins (and the way she was treated by some of the Senators) was paramount in helping kill that bill!
While I understand where you are coming from... I'm glad they didn't disallow non-Colorado citizens from testifying because I believe the testimony of Amanda Collins (and the way she was treated by some of the Senators) was paramount in helping kill that bill!
+1.. Saving Hudak's ass was the main reason why that bill was withdrawn.
While I understand where you are coming from... I'm glad they didn't disallow non-Colorado citizens from testifying because I believe the testimony of Amanda Collins (and the way she was treated by some of the Senators) was paramount in helping kill that bill!I would take a campus CCW ban over the magazine bullshit any day.
Not that we should be compromising at all.
I would take a campus CCW ban over the magazine bullshit any day.
Not that we should be compromising at all.
I would rather be able to carry 15 rounds while I'm on campus than not be able to carry anything at all. But the part we do agree on is we shouldn't be compromising at all!
Byte Stryke
03-10-2013, 03:35
The Colorado Legislature was duped.
They need to stop letting these clowns come to Colorado spouting "BAN!" and then running home buying the very weapon they wanted to be banned.
BPTactical
03-10-2013, 06:23
Unfortunately the "straw purchase" argument does not work if he "gifts" it to the PD.
Agreed, he wanted one and got caught buying it and now backpeddals.
Drudge, Fox, Beck, Boyles, Brown all should find this of interest.
osok-308
03-10-2013, 07:17
He bought a gun at a gun store with the intention of dropping it off at the police station afterwards? What is he going to say? "You guys will never believe what I bought at a gun store! Please get rid of this thing!"
A fucking liar. He got caught buying these weapons, and is now backpedaling.
+1 This was my exact thought. I wonder if he just waits until the whole issue dies down and keeps it anyways. He's a hypocrite just like Feinstein who owns guns and yet is so against them. Can I also point out that the crime that was committed that turned Feinstein into an anti-gunner was committed with a REVOLVER, and would still be legal even if her ban went through.
Aloha_Shooter
03-10-2013, 07:48
AR-15s are a superb all-purpose rifle so I have no issue with him buying it unless he chose to go buy additional 30-round standard capacity magazines to go with it. On the other hand, this fib about buying it with an intent to turn it into the PD just to make a point about how easy it was for a Navy O-6 astronaut to pass a background check is laughably stupid and should be spread and questioned nationwide.
BREATHER
03-10-2013, 07:59
Dudes, read it all. He claims that after he takes possession of the Ar he will turn it over to the Tucson PD. He may be a smart guy and all but he is a shitstick for climbing on the publicity bandwagon due to his wife being injured. Reminds me of Capn' Dan. Then again maybe he ain't so smart if he only made captain....He was trying to make a point like the rest of the fucksticks in Fast and Furious and we all know how that turned out. At least one hard working, tax paying American was killed because of that fiasco.
Come to think of it I don't beleive our glorious shits in the plantation of DC cares one shoit about the lives of hard working, tax paying American Citizens...
BREATHER
03-10-2013, 08:01
OOpS I should have read all the posts......Sorry
ChadAmberg
03-10-2013, 08:40
A typical political elite.
I'd almost say that him buying an AR was to terrorize his wife, and he should be charged with domestic violence.
Aloha_Shooter
03-10-2013, 08:42
BREATHER, regardless of whether you read all the posts, what's your beef with Gary "Cap'n Dan" Sinise? He does a hell of a lot for troops and firemen and rarely publicizes any of it. He only uses that moniker for his band (created specifically for USO shows) because it's the role troops remembered and bonded with.
BREATHER
03-10-2013, 08:53
Yeah, I was refering to how the character(Capn Dan)acted in the movie, going all nuts... I got no problem with Gary or his band.....
I'm starting to understand why they shut down the space shuttle program. They must have realized it was the only way to purge the system of condescending hacks that are incapable of logical thought. Or maybe Kelly is acting anti-gun to get whoever is running the government and Obama to like him and give him a job.
Byte Stryke
03-10-2013, 10:18
my question is, If he was going to turn it in to the PD... why buy extra Mags?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/09/Gabby-Giffords-Husband-Buys-AR-15-Announces-He-s-Not-Keeping-It-After-News-Leaks-Out
According to McCabe, witnesses to the purchases claimed Kelly purchased "high capacity" magazines as well.
Sharpienads
03-10-2013, 10:21
my question is, If he was going to turn it in to the PD... why buy extra Mags?
To show how easy it is to buy something designed to kill! And because they're awesome.
UrbanWolf
03-10-2013, 10:27
What kind of point is he trying to make? He passed the BC on a semi auto pistol, then he can pass on for a semi auto rifle, what's the problem?
The purchases were probably financed by the Brady Bunch anyway. Who the hell would buy guns and "turn 'em over to the police" just to make some stupid point about how easy it was to get them? At least who would do it with their own money?
Saaaayyyy, that kinda sounds like a straw purchase.....
Has anyone ever figured out who paid for his trip to Denver?
SideShow Bob
03-10-2013, 11:13
What kind of point is he trying to make? He passed the BC on a semi auto pistol, then he can pass on for a semi auto rifle, what's the problem?
This is his point, however lame it is, Like the AR is an NFA controlled item or such.
" I noticed a used AR-15. Bought that too. Even to buy an assault weapon, the background check only takes a matter of minutes."
If he would have been buying a gun to prove a point about how easy it is to buy, the cameras would have been there when they bought it, not two days later when they got caught him. And you don't have to buy 30 round mags to prove you can buy a gun. He was going to keep it and got caught, what a POS. I hope they have inflated price there as well so the expense hit him hard in his wallet.
SideShow Bob
03-10-2013, 11:23
If he would have been buying a gun to prove a point about how easy it is to buy, the cameras would have been there when they bought it, not two days later when they got caught him. And you don't have to buy 30 round mags to prove you can buy a gun. He was going to keep it and got caught, what a POS. I hope they have inflated price there as well so the expense hit him hard in his wallet.
Yes, I hope he paid panic prices for that "used AR", and I want to see the cameras rolling when he turns it over to the Local PD. It would probably be a PR sham, in the front door with cameras rolling, out the back door into another one of his vehicles waiting there where there are no cameras rolling.
I want to see it destroyed in front of the cameras.
This is just another case of pissing the wife off because she found out about the new toy he brought home.
Maybe he is a gun guy and his wife is a crazy mind control freak. He got far enough away and the reality of panic naturally kicked in!
Rucker61
03-10-2013, 11:59
How in the he'll was a used AR just sitting there for sale? Haven't seen too many around here.
Fuck him. Keep your politics in your own state. Don't come to mine and tell me what to do. You live in Arizona for Gods sale. Dipshit.
robertcolorado2009
03-10-2013, 12:32
He just got busted. plain and simple. He can thank all of the publicity he craved. I wouoldn't doubt if they get dollars from Bloombooger for staying in the fight.
Sharpienads
03-10-2013, 13:04
This is just another case of pissing the wife off because she found out about the new toy he brought home.
Yup.
BPTactical
03-10-2013, 13:30
This is just another case of pissing the wife off because she found out about the new toy he brought home.
But really, how could you take her seriously when she just says: " Buuutah youuu boughtaaaanuuuuther guuuunn" and drools?
Lord please forgive me and there are starving pygmies in Africa
Sharpienads
03-10-2013, 13:37
But really, how could you take her seriously when she just says: " Buuutah youuu boughtaaaanuuuuther guuuunn" and drools?
Lord please forgive me and there are starving pygmies in Africa
Oh man, that's kinda messed up. I would feel more sympathy for her if she wasn't trying to deny me my rights, though.
Boadie30
03-10-2013, 13:47
But really, how could you take her seriously when she just says: " Buuutah youuu boughtaaaanuuuuther guuuunn" and drools?
Lord please forgive me and there are starving pygmies in Africa
Damn it, im screwed.... Laughing that hard was purely involuntary.... I swear!!
Lord please forgive me and there are starving pygmies in Africa
[facepalm]10 hail mary's and you are forgiven my son [Priest]
Oh man, that's kinda messed up. I would feel more sympathy for her if she wasn't trying to deny me my rights, though.
Yeah, eff her for sticking her nose in CO where it doesn't belong.
BuffCyclist
03-10-2013, 15:09
How in the he'll was a used AR just sitting there for sale? Haven't seen too many around here.
Consignment. People are realizing how ridiculously high ARs are selling for, but they don't want to do a private party transaction, because those are illegal with their lack of background checks!!!
So, they take them into their local gun shop and let them take a cut of the already extreme profit, and keep what they originally paid for the AR. Seems reasonable. [facepalm]
scratchy
03-10-2013, 15:37
Tell him exactly what you think on his facebook page. He's got lots of "fans" now:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=474203615968235&set=a.215073368547929.71130.163148530407080&type=1
BPTactical
03-10-2013, 18:03
Tell him exactly what you think on his facebook page. He's got lots of "fans" now:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=474203615968235&set=a.215073368547929.71130.163148530407080&type=1
It does seem he has gained a completely new following.
DavieD55
03-10-2013, 18:04
Fuck him. Keep your politics in your own state. Don't come to mine and tell me what to do. You live in Arizona for Gods sale. Dipshit.
+1
missionxo
03-10-2013, 18:44
douche
Notice how there's zero reportage on this at HuffPo or Daily Kos. Because of course, he was just doing it to ""make a point"". Sure. sure. If he was trying to "make a point" wouldn't he want the reporting on this to be a bit more widespread?
Bro wanted an AR.
Bro got caught.
"SEE HOW EASY IT IS? I WAS TRYING TO PROVE A POINT. NOW I'M GOING TO TURN IT INTO THE POLICE! WHERE IT BELONGS!"
Cool story, Bro.
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
03-10-2013, 22:10
Yeah turn it over to the police so they can send your gun to the Mexican drug cartels or the Muslim brotherhood, that will show them dumbass.
Shooter21
03-10-2013, 23:02
Sounds like a strawman purchase to me....
StagLefty
03-11-2013, 08:09
Boyles is talking about it this morning. No MSN anywhere that I can find.
Boyles is talking about it this morning. No MSN anywhere that I can find.
http://now.msn.com/mark-kelly-husband-of-gabby-giffords-buys-semi-automatic-gun
Damn it, im screwed.... Laughing that hard was purely involuntary.... I swear!!
I was as well! Thanks a ton BP!
We should start a pool to see how long it takes before Kelly comes clean about how he got caught buying the rifle and mags.
I give it three days and he will release a complete apology for the lapse in judgement while failing to retract any of the dumb things he has said about assault weapons, background checks, and magazines.
We should start a pool to see how long it takes before Kelly comes clean about how he got caught buying the rifle and mags.
I give it three days and he will release a complete apology for the lapse in judgement while failing to retract any of the dumb things he has said about assault weapons, background checks, and magazines.
And he will eventually run for some office anyway and ignorant people will support him.
clublights
03-11-2013, 09:51
I hope this gets brought up during the hearings today ....
StagLefty
03-11-2013, 09:56
http://now.msn.com/mark-kelly-husband-of-gabby-giffords-buys-semi-automatic-gun
Sorry used the wrong acronym.
I hope this gets brought up during the hearings today ....
Was listening to the radio yesterday and I believe it was Greg Brophy (R) who was talking to the host about it, so at least one of them knows.
T.rexford
03-11-2013, 10:59
I just submitted a tip to the Tuscon Police Department about Mark Kelley lying on form 4473 question 11a. It made me feel good.
Sharpienads
03-11-2013, 11:04
I just submitted a tip to the Tuscon Police Department about Mark Kelley lying on form 4473 question 11a. It made me feel good.
Nice.
HBARleatherneck
03-25-2013, 20:38
UPDATE!!!
washed up ass tronaut gets shut down.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/25/gun-store-rescinds-mark-kelly-rifle-purchase-questions-his-intent/
Slapps74
03-25-2013, 21:29
Haha serves the prick right!
sabot_round
03-25-2013, 21:32
This does not surprise me at all...What a piece of shit he is!! An out of town turd like this should've never be able to testify here in CO period. This is a good example of the libtards demonizing the law abiding citizens and making a move towards SOCIALISM!!
BPTactical
03-25-2013, 21:55
Bravo to the shop for showing some integrity[Beer]
How long till they get an audit or compliance check?[Bang]
Mark Kelly can take his Brussel sprout head and stick in in Bloombergs cheesy bullshit. Eff the pair of em!
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