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TDYRanger
03-10-2013, 15:10
We stand on the precipice of hard times and are asked to make hard decisions…
You think resistance is futile, that’s what they want you to think. You think if you just take care of yourself, that is enough. That’s what they want you to think. So you make your life safe, and you follow their rules. That’s what they want you to do. And meanwhile, they steal your freedom right from under your nose. And they tell you that they are giving you peace and freedom, and they expect you to buy what they are selling. They are counting on you to be quiet, to listen to their media spin and believe their lies. Are you someone to give them what they want? Are you ready to give away everything for a false sense of safety and freedom? Or is this the new time of Thomas Paine, John Adams, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson…
Is this again the time for us to risk all, to ensure the America we were promised, the America that has been fought and died for, the America dreamt of those around the world thirsting for hope and liberty? Is it that time?

SA Friday
03-10-2013, 15:32
Relax dude. It's all legislation bs until confiscation.

Trigger
03-10-2013, 16:17
Relax dude. It's all legislation bs until confiscation.

+1 take a deep breath no one is getting to fired up yet.

10mm-man
03-10-2013, 16:31
Relax dude. It's all legislation bs until confiscation.

Waiting until confiscation will be to late...... Be proactive.


+1 take a deep breath no one is getting to fired up yet.


It might be time to get fired up a bit.... Shall not be infringed use to mean something. Try this shit just 50 years ago and the outcome would be different.


We stand on the precipice of hard times and are asked to make hard decisions…
You think resistance is futile, that’s what they want you to think. You think if you just take care of yourself, that is enough. That’s what they want you to think. So you make your life safe, and you follow their rules. That’s what they want you to do. And meanwhile, they steal your freedom right from under your nose. And they tell you that they are giving you peace and freedom, and they expect you to buy what they are selling. They are counting on you to be quiet, to listen to their media spin and believe their lies. Are you someone to give them what they want? Are you ready to give away everything for a false sense of safety and freedom? Or is this the new time of Thomas Paine, John Adams, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson…
Is this again the time for us to risk all, to ensure the America we were promised, the America that has been fought and died for, the America dreamt of those around the world thirsting for hope and liberty? Is it that time?

I say get fired up and when ever you want to start the inevitable, "Feel Free!"

SA Friday
03-10-2013, 16:36
Being proactive and burning the bitch down are two different things. McVeigh didn't understand this either.

DireWolf
03-10-2013, 16:38
Try this shit just 50 years ago and the outcome would be different.


If I'm not mistaken, 50 years ago the fucking commies would just dissapear in the night. While I don't entirely agree with that particular approach, it certainly kept those sons-of-bitches in check...

mopar
03-10-2013, 16:43
I agree with Ranger, you have to keep this on the forefront of your mind or else s... will happen before you know it.
People sit back and think it ain't gonna happen, then GUESS WHAT!!!!!

SA Friday
03-10-2013, 16:44
If I'm not mistaken, 50 years ago the fucking commies would just dissapear in the night. While I don't "completely" agree with that particular approach, it certainly kept those sons-of-bitches in check...
Really? The National Firearms Act was enacted in 1934 And the Gun Control Act was 1968. That's 79 and 44 years respectively. Not only would they do this 50 years ago, the did it before AND immediately after 50 years ago.

The sky hasn't fallen in yet. It needs reenforcement though.

osok-308
03-10-2013, 16:48
If you wait until confiscation, it will be too late. I would say this is the time to be vigilant about writing senators, congressmen, and anyone who will listen. Be politically proactive during this time! If we see the tides turning (i.e. federal anti gun laws) we then go through legal channels and file lawsuits and the like. If nothing else works, then it is the time.
Soap Box, Ballot Box, Jury Box, Cartridge box.... in that order.

DireWolf
03-10-2013, 16:52
Unless my history is a little off (always a possibility), wasn't there a short period around 50 years ago when the threat was taken seriously and the commies were dealt with in a fashion appropriate to their intent?

SA Friday
03-10-2013, 16:54
If you wait until confiscation, it will be too late. I would say this is the time to be vigilant about writing senators, congressmen, and anyone who will listen. Be politically proactive during this time! If we see the tides turning (i.e. federal anti gun laws) we then go through legal channels and file lawsuits and the like. If nothing else works, then it is the time.
Soap Box, Ballot Box, Jury Box, Cartridge box.... in that order.

I agree with this. It comes down to the acts the OP are inferring. I read it to be the cartridge box. I see us at the ballot box.

Bailey Guns
03-10-2013, 16:55
This goes further back than 1934. Try the post-Civil War days. Even our own revolution was started in part because the British wanted to round up some guns.

This fight has been ongoing since the early days of our country's founding.

TFOGGER
03-10-2013, 17:10
I believe my "red line" is at the registration stage. Registration has led to confiscation 100% of the time, so it is the final alarm for me.

TAR31
03-10-2013, 17:37
Complacency

SA Friday
03-10-2013, 18:41
Complacency
Who's being complacent? The way is stands, the libs are NOT be complacent but pressing the issue. The conservatives are not be complacent but fighting a minority battle since too many people in this country had a hard on for idiots like Paul and refused to vote. So, Dem's got a lot of seats and now we are reaping what was sewn.

The OP is talking about "risking it all", is it that time again? Hell no. The OP is talking about war. At this point it would come over like McVeigh part two. Politically fighting this is the right venue now. Even our founding fathers sent the Olive Branch Treaty before it all kicked off... [facepalm]

XC700116
03-10-2013, 18:58
IMO unless you've done everything on the list of legal means to see the changes that need to happen, you have no right to even begin talking about revolution, while expecting that anyone follow your lead. Anyone whom starts that talk the first thing out of my mouth is.

Have you written to your representatives?
If you have and not gotten your way, have you donated, campaigned, or otherwise supported candidates with whom you agree?
If you have and still not gotten there, Have you run for office yourself?
If you have and still not gotten there, have you looked at other legal processes like filing lawsuits for judicial recourse?
If you have and still not gotten there, have you "voted with your feet" and moved to a place that better matches your views?
If you have and still not gotten there, Do you have at least 50% of the people in your district, and home state on your side and are you truly being oppressed by a tyrannical govt?
If yes, do you have enough support to actually step up to violence, and will you not be sent packing by the very folks you thought supported you?
If yes, then I still say you have to VERY carefully consider what you are proposing before going off half cocked.

I get that you are discouraged, I am too, it drives me crazy, but keep in mind those that run into the streets with guns before the general climate is right, will be cut down, and even once the time is "right" you're still going to push 90% of the sheep running into the open arms of the government begging them to stop YOU.

brokenscout
03-10-2013, 19:18
Its not just 2A, Its a lot of things. The Constitution use to mean something in this Country.

Kraven251
03-10-2013, 19:28
For the moment it is not that time, it is this time though:

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/93585-Deliberate-Repost-Colorado-Constitutional-Amendment

It's broken but we can fix it.