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UrbanWolf
03-10-2013, 22:46
This guy showed up at a party Saturday night. White guy, 21-ish. Doesn't claim to be a veteran but claim to be a current marine. Tattooed up to the face up ear's height, gibbering on about his profecency with the AR-15 not M16 or M4, while drinking and smoking with college kids.
What are the chances of this guy been legit?
Fentonite
03-10-2013, 22:49
I love meeting fellow Marines. Any idea where I can find him?...
Troublco
03-10-2013, 22:49
Pretty damn slim. I'm reasonably sure the Marines have limits on tattoos, and having them up the side of your face would not fall within uniform regulations. Plus, I've never seen a Marine using an AR-15 on duty; and they're usually rather unyielding about weapons and related terminology.
ETA: Looks like Marines follow the same idea as the SEALs do...don't claim to be something you're not! Get 'em, Fentonite...
Kraven251
03-10-2013, 22:50
Sounds like a douche.
I love meeting fellow Marines. Any idea where I can find him?...
We both like meeting fellow Marines, count me in.
Fentonite
03-10-2013, 22:51
We both like meeting fellow Marines, count me in.
We can make this a regular reunion!
UrbanWolf
03-10-2013, 22:51
I love meeting fellow Marines. Any idea where I can find him?...
I didn't learn his name, but he was at a party here in Fort Collins. I bet soon someone i know will add him on facebook, I'll PM you a full name if you are down.
Kraven251
03-10-2013, 22:52
We both like meeting fellow Marines, count me in.
Can I go too? I'll buy the first round and watch you guys catch up [Flower]
Fentonite
03-10-2013, 22:54
I didn't learn his name, but he was at a party here in Fort Collins. I bet soon someone i know will add him on facebook, I'll PM you a full name if you are down.
Post it in this thread![Coffee]
ford_muscle1
03-10-2013, 22:54
Last time I checked they are not allowed to have any tattoos that can be seen in the dress uniform. So I will call bull on this retard. Maybe we could get lucky and he will fall down a flight of stairs or run into some door knobs.
mtnrider
03-10-2013, 22:55
Tattooed up to the face up ear's height,
Yeah, that's a no go right there.
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This guy showed up at a party Saturday night. White guy, 21-ish. Doesn't claim to be a veteran but claim to be a current marine. Tattooed up to the face up ear's height, gibbering on about his profecency with the AR-15 not M16 or M4, while drinking and smoking with college kids.
What are the chances of this guy been legit?
Poser...
All the Gyrenes I ever knew NEVER called their weapon an ar...
10mm-man
03-10-2013, 22:58
We can make this a regular reunion!
Dude I am almost hesitant to say count me in also. One is enough, two is over kill; So I'll just watch and laugh...
We both like meeting fellow Marines, count me in.
Ahhh, Comraderie. Gotta hand it to you Marines...just keeping it in the family. I'm up with buying the beer.
UrbanWolf
03-10-2013, 22:59
Post it in this thread![Coffee]
That violate the rule i think.
I love meeting fellow Marines. Any idea where I can find him?...
Partying with college kids. Duh [hammer]
I met a guy a few weeks ago who claimed he was a scout sniper so I started in with the questions. Couldn't tell me his MOS or where he was stationed, claimed he had a 2 year contract, so I go "Did you train in San Fran?" Just to mess with him, his response, "Duh, all scount snipers train and are stationed in San Fran". I tore his ass apart so bad he bailed and left his GF behind at the party
NightCat
03-11-2013, 01:15
..Can we make this a joint branch venture...I want in on some of this.
I bet he'll tell me all about his time in the 31st Marine Expeditionary US Army Ranger Navy Seal TACP unit....
These idiots need to be called out more often, the fact that they think they can get away with pretending to be in the military with "multiple tours overseas" blows my mind. They all deserve a brick to the face in my opinion. I served in the Australian military so I don't have the same experience some of you do but it still pisses me off that these people think its cool to play pretend soldier for the credit
NightCat
03-11-2013, 01:32
I've called people out on it in public....
Had a a guy come through my work in ACU's, Rank upside down, Patrol cap had no ranks on it, name tapes backwards, longer hair than AR 670-1 would allow rocking a 10th Mtn on his right side and 4ID on his left....I was working with a customer but asked them to give me a minute, went up to him, asked to see an ID...he was confused, so I reiterated myself, "A CAC Card...Common Access Card, Military ID.."
Keep in mind this guy came in with 2 other people who looked somewhat unsavory...
The guy's friend says to me " What? are you navy!" with some flavor of attitude...
And in front of my boss I replied, " No mother fucker I'm a retired Staff Sergeant"
...Nothing really escalated from this, I decided my customer had already waited long enough and that I would get back to my job..
I never saw an ID...but I overheard the guys friend saying his GF fucked up his uniform....likely story.
My Coworker who was helping this guy told me later that he looked like he was about to cry after I busted into him for being all fucked up...
My boss then pulled me aside after I got done and was free...said to me, "I'm glad you said something, cause had you not, I would've"
...my boss is Retired USAF, and my other Coworker Retired USMC...
They just must expect they'll never meet anyone who's ever been in, or they're just that dumb. There needs to be punishment for these people who think they can "play army". Stolen Valor act only goes so far, this is getting ridiculous.
Mick-Boy
03-11-2013, 01:41
I got over calling people out as posers a few years back. At some point it just became more unnecessary drama. I just file them away as lying pieces of shit and move on.
These idiots need to be called out more often, the fact that they think they can get away with pretending to be in the military with "multiple tours overseas" blows my mind. They all deserve a brick to the face in my opinion. I served in the Australian military so I don't have the same experience some of you do but it still pisses me off that these people think its cool to play pretend soldier for the credit
You have the brick portion correct. Fuck this guy and the pieces of shit like him. These guys better hope that I never catch em because after the calling out, the beating into a coma will commence.
I've been told multiple times at parties that people just don't care, but as far as I'm concerned, I will call out anyone who I know is full of shit, I've lost too many friends overseas to let these people convince others that they put themselves out there when in actual fact they just want to pretend so people think better of them.
You have the brick portion correct. Fuck this guy and the pieces of shit like him. These guys better hope that I never catch em because after the calling out, the beating into a coma will commence.
Thank you, I know it sounds like we're being extreme or in a bad mood but these people need to realize that the people they're pretending to be actually put themselves in the shit everyday, not to look good to their friends but because they're fighting for what they believe in. People who choose to steal that credit deserve to have their teeth kicked in.
NightCat
03-11-2013, 01:49
I got over calling people out as posers a few years back. At some point it just became more unnecessary drama. I just file them away as lying pieces of shit and move on.
Good point..
The uniform is not a "costume", I never have understood how low a persons integrity would have to be to "bank" on a real soldiers merits. I never had the ability to serve but hold those who have with the utmost respect. I will gladly buy a round for the pleasure of observing.
Sent from my Otterbox Defended Tactical iPhone using High Capacity "Clips".
I didn't serve in the armed forces. I hate "stolen valor" people. We had a big time liar on another forum and I helped expose that bastard and his lies on NUMEROUS other forums, this guy wouldn't stop spreading his BS. These people have no honor and they need the bright light of truth shown on them.
tmleadr03
03-11-2013, 07:30
Dude I am almost hesitant to say count me in also. One is enough, two is over kill; So I'll just watch and laugh...
Down for peanut gallery comments from the side lines? Cuz I can totally manage that.
BPTactical
03-11-2013, 07:42
I am right with Roberth on this one. I did not have the honor of serving, I was too engrossed in "me" at the time to think of something greater than myself.
When I matured enough to realize it was the right thing to do I had kids and a mortgage.
But as the son of a WWII combat vet(10th Mtn) I have the utmost respect for any veteran, regardless of branch. I wear the 10th Mountain flash on my forearm as an homage to them, but have never claimed it as "mine".
Any person who attempts to further themselves through false honor is one small step above whale shit in the Marianas trench.
If you guys find him and need somebody to hold your jackets while you have your "reunion" I'm in.
Thanks to those that served!
I am right with Roberth on this one. I did not have the honor of serving, I was too engrossed in "me" at the time to think of something greater than myself.
When I matured enough to realize it was the right thing to do I had kids and a mortgage.
But as the son of a WWII combat vet(10th Mtn) I have the utmost respect for any veteran, regardless of branch. I wear the 10th Mountain flash on my forearm as an homage to them, but have never claimed it as "mine".
Any person who attempts to further themselves through false honor is one small step above whale shit in the Marianas trench.
If you guys find him and need somebody to hold your jackets while you have your "reunion" I'm in.
Thanks to those that served!that about sums it up . i hate people that pretend to be something they are not . the fella in question sounds like a [pileoshit] heal
Kraven251
03-11-2013, 07:58
In a similar boat myself, never served, but I have ZERO tolerance for those that dishonor and are a discredit to those that did.
I know and have known way too many people that have served and most the time you just know when someone is full of shit.
http://youtu.be/bCnzi6L_BsM
UrbanWolf
03-11-2013, 08:19
They just must expect they'll never meet anyone who's ever been in, or they're just that dumb. There needs to be punishment for these people who think they can "play army". Stolen Valor act only goes so far, this is getting ridiculous.
I thought there are law about it already.
Kraven251
03-11-2013, 08:25
I thought there are law about it already.
There is, it is legal as long as you are not in the military. 1A allows you to be a lying scumbag.
UrbanWolf
03-11-2013, 08:33
There is, it is legal as long as you are not in the military. 1A allows you to be a lying scumbag.
So weed-head can show off a fake insignia while talking about how he was a badass US SAS with the SCAR-L in Iraq-stan's battle of Mogadishu, killed a shit bunch of Russian merc and get away with it?
Mick-Boy
03-11-2013, 08:40
Yep.
Almost as funny is messing with boot Marines/military out of A-school/ITB that sit in bars talking a big talk. The only bad part is it requires one to go to said bars.
osok-308
03-11-2013, 08:47
I know a guy in Georgia who got all sorts of Marine tattoos, Eagle and Globe, Semper Fi, etc. and he's never been in the marines. He's a total douche. I've never been in the service, but I have a ton of respect for all of you that have. Knowing that people do this stuff really grinds my gears!
Mick-Boy
03-11-2013, 09:03
Almost as funny is messing with boot Marines/military out of A-school/ITB that sit in bars talking a big talk. The only bad part is it requires one to go to said bars.
We were all there once.
I enlisted fresh out of school when I was 17. After graduating SOI, I was absolutely convinced that I was the baddest thing on two feet... right up until my first Platoon Sgt at 2/2 caught me looking at him sideways and offered to drop blouses with me (I accepted). It was the first in many, many lessons in humility that I've been learning ever since taking up the profession of arms.
Remember, everyone starts somewhere. [Beer]
This stupid bastard was found on base during an air show.
I guess he ran out of room on his service coat for more ribbons & badges!
He doesn't look very happy, does he?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/TennVol/USAF/photo-2_zps3a6f2812.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/TennVol/USAF/photo-1_zps86ada352.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/TennVol/USAF/photo-3_zps7dafeb78.jpg
I didn't laugh out loud till I saw the boots. [ROFL3]
That is so bad it's hilarious. Civilian section 8?
I didn't laugh out loud till I saw the boots. [ROFL3]
I was there when I noticed the presidential unit citation in his personal awards, the desert boots in dress uniform just kept it going.
BPTactical
03-11-2013, 10:14
He's an Admiral right?
The CIB was a dead giveaway[LOL]
It looks like he also has some metal chevrons (rank) on his beret.
Troublco
03-11-2013, 12:15
OMG... He should've checked 35-10 (yeah, I know it's 36-something now) before he went to go play dress-up! Do you suppose he got to earn that purple heart after they found him looking like this? [Abused]
This guy's a walking [fail]
Tattoos don't mean that he is not legit. When I joined in 2002 I only filled out a waiver and bam full sleeves no longer an issue. There was a supply guy with a neck tattoo and he did the same thing with no problems. After 9/11 they needed everyone they could get, and as far as I know non performance related issues do not disqualify you from re-enlisting. Actually I knew more females with head and neck tattoos than males. But when my little brother joined last year they were strict as hell. They said no waivers and kicked a guy from MEPS for a speeding ticket. Things are changing fast. But my point is he could be active duty, probably a douch and probably non combat MOS but you never know. Look him up, I always like meeting other .mill as well.
Aloha_Shooter
03-11-2013, 13:06
How the hell did that moron even get ON base looking like that? He must have been trolling the gun shows and flea markets for weeks to amass all those badges and ribbons.
NightCat
03-11-2013, 13:07
He's an Admiral right?
The CIB was a dead giveaway[LOL]
Oh that makes me mad... I actually have my CIB...
never got to go out for my EIB :(
How the hell did that moron even get ON base looking like that? He must have been trolling the gun shows and flea markets for weeks to amass all those badges and ribbons.
You can buy all that stuff at the "Army Surplus" stores.
And while I agree with the sentiments of all of you and would like nothing more than to see some faker achieve a permanent limp and suck soup through a straw for 6 months, I feel it necessary to caution that YOU will be the one charged with assault. YOU will be the one taken to jail. YOU wil be the one with the felony on your head. And YOU will be the one that loses your right to own guns and vote.
Dress 'em down verbally all you want, from all sides, the more the merrier. But don't lay a finger on a maggot like that and fuck up YOUR OWN life, it ain't worth that kind of sacrifice.
And FWIW, I never served either, but I sure as Hell don't want to see any of you that DID serve fuck up your lives over some worthless sack of shit poser. Even though they deserve the beatdown and pain, YOU are the one that will ultimately suffer.
Unless you have Ninja skillz, of course, and can remain unidentified. Then have at 'em!
brokenscout
03-11-2013, 13:37
To be honest, who cares.. If some is doing it and trying to gain something ok, but I really think most of these guys need mental health than an as kicking. Theres enough other crap wrong with this Country than to worry about this. The tattoo issue was easy to get around a couple years ago. If some is doing it to try and get girls, it is fun to call them out though:)
10mm-man
03-11-2013, 13:44
I tore his ass apart so bad he bailed and left his GF behind at the party
Should have took his girlfriend; I would have! If she wasn't more than a two bagger...
10mm-man
03-11-2013, 13:57
http://youtu.be/bCnzi6L_BsM
I don't even know whether to laugh or not?? Spot on!
I don't even know whether to laugh or not?? Spot on!
Really? Ten expert bars, SSG rank on the jacket sleeve, 1SG rank on the collar and major rank on his jacket shoulderboards isn't funny? [LOL] Might have needed more reflective belts though.
UrbanWolf
03-11-2013, 14:21
This stupid bastard was found on base during an air show.
I guess he ran out room on his service coat for more ribbons & badges!
He doesn't look very happy, does he?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/TennVol/USAF/photo-1_zps86ada352.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/TennVol/USAF/photo-3_zps7dafeb78.jpg
What's up with thise boots?
What's up with thise boots?
Desert issue boots. I guess he figured that since he has his airborne badge and the 82nd Airborne wears maroon berets and jump boots with their green class a's, he would adapt and wear desert boots in his AF dress up costume.
BushMasterBoy
03-11-2013, 14:46
I think the Air Forgery guy gave the military this idea...
http://www.informationweek.com/security/client/air-force-seeks-fake-online-social-media/229219056
To be honest, who cares.. If some is doing it and trying to gain something ok, but I really think most of these guys need mental health than an as kicking. Theres enough other crap wrong with this Country than to worry about this. The tattoo issue was easy to get around a couple years ago. If some is doing it to try and get girls, it is fun to call them out though:)
I watched the supreme court case closely that dealt with stolen valor. The fact is that all of these people are gaining something from doing this. The specific supreme court case dealt with a guy that was elected to public office and during his campaign claimed to of gotten the medal of honor. Did it benefit him directly? I would argue yes it did. People could of voted for him because of his claims. Other examples I have seen is that stolen valor guys have been given something for being a vet. These assholes wouldn't do this if they didn't benefit from it in some way.
I posted this some time ago. This guy never served in Vietnam.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/nailbomb/Champe-headstone-210x300.jpg
lowspeed_highdrag
03-11-2013, 15:48
Sounds like a real hardcharging snake eater.
Stupid posers.
I just don't get why they want to pose as militant to get women or respect.
Maybe wearing Cisco System or Google uniform will get them more gals at a bar? [Bang]
brokenscout
03-11-2013, 16:12
I agree with that, and political gain is wrong. SOme of these guys in the pic's look like their not all there. I love calling guys out(in front of girls is the best:) ) But for the most part I just laugh
I watched the supreme court case closely that dealt with stolen valor. The fact is that all of these people are gaining something from doing this. The specific supreme court case dealt with a guy that was elected to public office and during his campaign claimed to of gotten the medal of honor. Did it benefit him directly? I would argue yes it did. People could of voted for him because of his claims. Other examples I have seen is that stolen valor guys have been given something for being a vet. These assholes wouldn't do this if they didn't benefit from it in some way.
I posted this some time ago. This guy never served in Vietnam.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/nailbomb/Champe-headstone-210x300.jpg
mcsurveyer1361
03-11-2013, 16:35
We can make this a regular reunion!
Count me in always nice to meet fellow marines or those who claim to have earned the title.
Troublco
03-11-2013, 17:15
I posted this some time ago. This guy never served in Vietnam.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/nailbomb/Champe-headstone-210x300.jpg
Due to the old law where anyone who had served at all came under the definition of "veteran", my wife's late stepfather (who was, to be nice, a real piece of crap) who only served a whopping 2 weeks in the Navy (if you count the first 2 weeks of Navy boot) was buried in Ft. Logan. Ok, whatever, it was under the old law. However...I had what could charitably be termed an apoplectic rage when my mother in law announced that he was going to be buried "with honors". I went to the service at the funeral home, and then when we got to Ft. Logan, where my father, my best friend's father, and several close friends of mine rest, I sat in our car and did my best to not come unglued. I explained clearly that I would not participate, and exactly why. And to this day I feel that my selfish, narcissistic bitch of a mother in law (who I get along with pretty well otherwise) dishonored every worthy veteran in that hallowed piece of ground with her need to play the "grieving veteran's wife". My wife feels the same way, and has told her that.
However; if the individual served during the time of a war my understanding is that will be annotated on the headstone.
If you serve during the last 10 years and dont deploy and you put operation enduring freedom on your tombstone no problem. If you put Iraq or Afghanistan on that thing and they need to dig that shit up and destroy both the casket and headstone.
tmleadr03
03-11-2013, 18:42
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_15/371134_Marine_Poser_busted_at_the_airport.html
Birddog1911
03-11-2013, 19:00
Count me in always nice to meet fellow marines or those who claim to have earned the title.
Yep, let's make it a party. Can never meet enough brother Marines.
NightCat
03-11-2013, 19:29
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_15/371134_Marine_Poser_busted_at_the_airport.html
Oh wow....I'm not even, nor have I ever served with USMC, whilst I've been around friends at Military Balls and weddings, etc, even I know that guy is all kinds of fucked up.
Yep, let's make it a party. Can never meet enough brother Marines.
..oh come on guys....Lets make it a JAMFU :D
Maybe those posers are interns at DCIS or something doing undercover training. hahaha
Anyways, I had a real military guys who try to be a poser as well.
When I was working at an airport as a part time job during late 2002, there were few real solider with orders (instead of passport) trying to say they are on a top secret mission. They have sensitive materials with them, and demanded a business class or first class free upgrade.
I ask them "sensitive" , and they said "yes"
I just gave them the shittiest seat, and introduce them to the TSA random check. [ROFL1]
jackedco
03-11-2013, 20:35
Yep, let's make it a party. Can never meet enough brother Marines.
Bunch of Marines and the word "party"...I'm thinking working party...ain't no party like a working party!
tmleadr03
03-11-2013, 20:40
Oh wow....I'm not even, nor have I ever served with USMC, whilst I've been around friends at Military Balls and weddings, etc, even I know that guy is all kinds of fucked up.
..oh come on guys....Lets make it a JAMFU :D
NCO stripe on a LCpl. And did you notice the shoes? Lets not even go there with the belt.
NightCat
03-11-2013, 20:49
NCO stripe on a LCpl. And did you notice the shoes? Lets not even go there with the belt.
I notice the obvious things, like the rank disgrepencies and the shoes...but not some of the other shit some of those guys were sayin.
baglock1
03-11-2013, 20:52
Are those photos of the Air Force guy confirmed as being a legitimate stolen valor idiot? From the looks of it and the game controllers on the table, it looks like some Airmen were just goofing off in the dorms. I'd be interested if this douchbaggery was legit or just a joke.
Are those photos of the Air Force guy confirmed as being a legitimate stolen valor idiot? From the looks of it and the game controllers on the table, it looks like some Airmen were just goofing off in the dorms. I'd be interested if this douchbaggery was legit or just a joke.
When I first saw this about a year ago, it was confirmed. I don't feel like finding that story from that long ago.
BushMasterBoy
03-11-2013, 21:34
http://usafonlineoped.blogspot.com/2011/06/i-once-wrote-story-on-here-about-stolen.html
Rucker61
03-11-2013, 22:13
This stupid bastard was found on base during an air show.
I guess he ran out of room on his service coat for more ribbons & badges!
He doesn't look very happy, does he?
At least he got the haircut right.
See.... These are side effects from hippie liberal pot smoking parents/sitter/teachers who didn't let kids play pretend solider.
Those guys are in 20s and even 30s, and still wanna play solider.
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