View Full Version : Just wanted to reiterate...
Bailey Guns
03-11-2013, 21:53
...a big FUCK YOU to all of you "pro gun" democrats who voted these tyrannical bastards into office.
Nice work.
sniper_tim
03-11-2013, 21:54
+1
Mountain Man
03-11-2013, 21:57
Lots of recall elections. Need to happen.
hghclsswhitetrsh
03-11-2013, 21:58
+3
bigshane
03-11-2013, 21:59
Agreed...
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dwalker460
03-11-2013, 22:02
Im sorry, could you repeat that a little louder please? Pelosi might not have heard you...
Lippy Laroux
03-11-2013, 22:03
Pothead vote
Rooskibar03
03-11-2013, 22:04
Like.
(For the Facebook crowd)
trlcavscout
03-11-2013, 22:05
Fuck pelosi, obama, and all the other dumb shits. May they stop breathing in their sleep.
Yup big FU from me too, bullshit!!
Democrats you can kiss my ass, not on the right cheek, not on the left cheek, but right in the middle.
10mm-man
03-11-2013, 22:08
+1 Funny the ones who voted that way (and said it wouldn't happen) haven't been around.... Fags
Did you decide to move or ya gonna stay?
Bailey Guns
03-11-2013, 22:12
Fuck pelosi, obama, and all the other dumb shits. May they stop breathing in their sleep.
I don't really care if they're sleeping or not.
+1000 who would of ever thought the day would come in colo. that you could smoke pot at your gay wedding totally legal and accepted, but if you have a 20 round mag on your floorboard you would go to jail.... what a fucking joke. Im glad I work in N.M. and travel to Minnesota by car twice a year. I can still pick up anything I need, and I will not comply with any of this horse shit.
+1000 who would of ever thought the day would come in colo. that you could smoke pot at your gay wedding totally legal and accepted, but if you have a 20 round mag on your floorboard you would go to jail....
You beat me to the punch. If you had a time machine, and went back in time to tell you grandpa this was the future.......he'd punch you in the balls and call you a liar.
motohooligan
03-11-2013, 22:55
You beat me to the punch. If you had a time machine, and went back in time to tell you grandpa this was the future.......he'd punch you in the balls and call you a liar.
I leave the state for 6 years and this is the shit I come home to (while voting absentee). The thing that gets me is that we've already tried this BS. It didn't work then, and it won't work now. Definition of INSANITY I guess. Doing the same thing expecting diff. results and all that. But I guess now we all have an insanity plea.
...a big FUCK YOU to all of those pro-gun, pro-2A Republicans who stayed home last election. That is right... you can try and blame the Dems all you want but it is YOUR damn fault we are in this mess. But we got out and voted, you say? No... with many of the elected officials only receiving about 25% of the vote from eligible voters... that shows about 50% of you stayed home! Oh I'm sure you had a GREAT excuse! "My vote doesn't count", "I had to work", "I didn't have time", "I was out of the state"... I don't want to hear it! Was it worth it? I hope you think so! Well here is your fucking reward! Congrats!!!
I never imagine how much I can hate the democrats, a year ago I don't understood anything about republicans and democrats but in the last days I just want to punch a democrat in they're face for every 2 hours
Great-Kazoo
03-11-2013, 23:34
Not to burst your bubble. But if i don't well i wouldn't be me.
ANYWAY if you truly believe Mitt would have not broached a gun ban of some sort you're naive.
I will concur the fact Had the Dem's not won as much as they did, their empowerment would not have us where we are today. Couple it with those sensible democrat gun owners. Who for some reason their names slip my mind...................................
Good old Willard didn't put these Colorado representatives and senators in place. The people of Colorado did! I find it somewhat comical that the pro-gun Dems are being the whipping post when I'm sure we can probably all agree that there were exponentially more pro 2A Republicans that did NOT vote than there were pro 2A Dems who did. So who REALLY is to blame here? Those who got the vote out? Or those who were too damn lazy to get out and vote! I mean think about it... REALLY!
Lets take Hickenlooper as an example. When he signs these things in to law... we will see "oh thanks a lot Democraps!" Hick won with LESS than 26% of the vote from eligible CO voters. Where were the other 74% of voters? Some of them voted against him but roughly HALF of them stayed home! They are the ones that are responsible. They are the ones who should be ashamed! The freaking Dems got the vote out! Was everybody else too busy watching Duck Dynasty or something? What was going on that was so important to where they felt like they didn't need to vote?
clublights
03-11-2013, 23:47
Meh i'd lay the blame on 3rd party voters......
so many close races that could have gone -R if the 3rd party voters had not "wasted" the vote...
theGinsue
03-11-2013, 23:49
What's done is done. We can't turn back time and redo the election. What we can do is move forward. Turning on one another isn't going to solve anything.
Let's pull it together folks. What we can do is devise a strategy we can put into effect come our next couple of election cycles (it'll take more than 1 election to clean out these douchebags - including the Governor and our Federal officials. We can work and push recall election efforts. We can get people in office that will work to repeal these illegal measures.
We can't do any of this if we remain divided. We've got to get on the same page. We've got to get our friends, family and every other person we come into contact with into this fight with us. The only way we'll send the message we need to send - as loudly as we need to send it - is to drop the standing on principles bullshit and find the candidates who have the realistic chance to win and reinstate our Rights.
So, let's quit the bickering and find the common ground and common mission to dictate our future actions.
clublights
03-11-2013, 23:52
What's done is done. We can't turn back time and redo the election. What we can do is move forward. Turning on one another isn't going to solve anything.
Let's pull it together folks. What we can do is devise a strategy we can put into effect come our next couple of election cycles (it'll take more than 1 election to clean out these douchebags - including the Governor and our Federal officials. We can work and push recall election efforts. We can get people in office that will work to repeal these illegal measures.
We can't do any of this if we remain divided. We've got to get on the same page. We've got to get our friends, family and every other person we come into contact with into this fight with us. The only way we'll send the message we need to send - as loudly as we need to send it - is to drop the standing on principles bullshit and find the candidates who have the realistic chance to win and reinstate our Rights.
So, let's quit the bickering and find the common ground and common mission to dictate our future actions.
Damn it Ginsue.............
Stop being logical.
theGinsue
03-11-2013, 23:53
Merged 2 practically identical threads. Let's keep it together folks.
Damn it Ginsue.............
Stop being logical.
Sorry, it's just what I do.
Meh i'd lay the blame on 3rd party voters......
so many close races that could have gone -R if the 3rd party voters had not "wasted" the vote...
Could you tell me which races those were? I hear a lot of that talk but I never see any data. Not saying your wrong just curious to see myself.
mahabali
03-11-2013, 23:55
...a big FUCK YOU to all of you "pro gun" democrats who voted these tyrannical bastards into office.
Nice work.
Agreed x87!
...a big FUCK YOU to all of you "pro gun" democrats who voted these tyrannical bastards into office.
Nice work.
Morse only won because the Reps and Tea Partyers couldn't get along so they split their vote. And didn't something similar happen in Ft Collins?
theGinsue
03-12-2013, 00:02
Could you tell me which races those were? I hear a lot of that talk but I never see any data. Not saying your wrong just curious to see myself.
Last election - CO anti-gun Senate President John Morse defeated the Republican candidate by approximately 1% of the vote. Meanwhile, the Libertarian candidate got a whopping 4.7% of the vote. Those votes for the Libertarian candidate with no chance of winning could have kept Morse out of office.
That could have been enough to have kept all of this from seeing the light of day.
I find it interesting though that of all places Morse was elected in Colorado Springs.. Did the evangelicals stay home that night?
clublights
03-12-2013, 00:14
Could you tell me which races those were? I hear a lot of that talk but I never see any data. Not saying your wrong just curious to see myself.
I'm pretty sure hudak was one ...
http://data.denverpost.com/election/results/state-senate/2012/
Teufelhund
03-12-2013, 00:14
I like how all last year the hardcore (R)s around here were screaming, "Libertarians shouldn't be going for the brass ring of POTUS, they need to start with local elections first." Then the (R)s went and put up shit candidates across the board, can't seem to keep from alienating most of the voting populace with their "morality via legislation" platform, and suddenly it's the Libertarians' fault for voting their party in local elections.
jhood001
03-12-2013, 01:57
Divide and conquer.
Byte Stryke
03-12-2013, 04:03
in the same thread... how bad BOTH parties candidates were and would have had the same results,
but that a third party is to blame...
[Bang]
Wow... I work 4 shifts, and this is what I get for checking in on my lunch break. As far as the bills go, I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. As far as the rest of it... I understand the frustration, but name calling, blame-pinning, and the endless "yeah... recall these mofos for sure" isn't going to change a fucking thing. We need to start focusing early on 2014, and thinking of some constructive, proactive ways of making the liberal blight disappear with the next round of elections. Ways of damaging their reputations in the community, ways of bolstering their opponents, and ways of fixing/improving the image of gun owners in the voting public's mind.
I actually have a few small ideas, but will have to post them later today as work's getting crazy again here...
BPTactical
03-12-2013, 05:33
The Colorado GOP has some culpability in this Romeo Foxtrot as well. They rode many lame horses in critical battles, were too ignorant to realize the machine they faced and were too pussy to take the gloves off when they needed to.
jerrymrc
03-12-2013, 05:55
I find it interesting though that of all places Morse was elected in Colorado Springs.. Did the evangelicals stay home that night?
That is a good question. In my area the dem soundly beat the incumbent R. And what a piece of crap ol tony is. Bidens puppet. [fail]
Kraven251
03-12-2013, 07:37
That is a good question. In my area the dem soundly beat the incumbent R. And what a piece of crap ol tony is. Bidens puppet. [fail]
Redistricting : The carbon monoxide of the democratic process ...by the time you realize there is a problem you are either dead or have a headache for days.
Teufelhund
03-12-2013, 09:54
Wow... I work 4 shifts, and this is what I get for checking in on my lunch break. As far as the bills go, I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. As far as the rest of it... I understand the frustration, but name calling, blame-pinning, and the endless "yeah... recall these mofos for sure" isn't going to change a fucking thing. We need to start focusing early on 2014, and thinking of some constructive, proactive ways of making the liberal blight disappear with the next round of elections. Ways of damaging their reputations in the community, ways of bolstering their opponents, and ways of fixing/improving the image of gun owners in the voting public's mind.
Good sentiment. Good luck defeating the Colorado Model (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/14577-reaping-the-whirlwind-the-colorado-model-and-gun-control).
In covering the bills for the Associated Press, Ivan Moreno noted that “the vote [on] Monday in Colorado’s gun control debate is part of the shift in the region’s politics to the left.”That shift has been going on at least since 2004 when four rich liberals, Tim Gill, Rutt Bridges, Jared Polis, and Pat Stryker, decided to fund the Colorado Model (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/316nfdzw.asp?page=1), a low-profile strategy deliberately designed to turn “red states blue” according to Erik Erikson (http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/12/28/the-colorado-model-the-lefts-stratagem-for-turning-red-states-to-blue/), a blogger at Redstate.com. As explained by Erikson, the Colorado Model is “one of the left’s most effective stratagems … when combined with the tactics of Saul Alinsky and his disciples, the Colorado Model is akin to a Soviet platoon armed with AK-47s mowing down a militia armed with slingshots.”
Good sentiment. Good luck defeating the Colorado Model (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/14577-reaping-the-whirlwind-the-colorado-model-and-gun-control).
As long as they're not coming door to door for people's guns, I'm willing to be stubbornly and unrealistically optimistic about our chances of defeating them thru legal and political means. I'm with you, I don't think it will ultimately do a damn bit of good (mainly because I think it's all just small parts to a larger, entropic spiral downwards to the end times) but I wouldn't feel I had a right to bitch about it if I just rolled over. :-)
In the same line of thought as those mad at so many staying home and not voting (not saying I don't completely agree with Carl here though- I agree 100%, and consider "Pro-gun Democrat" to be a major oxymoron), I blame the A-64 folks, they got all the little pot smoking libs off their asses and in the voting booths. These are people who, for the most part, cast their vote for anyone with a (D) after their names... So yes, blame can be thrown in many directions, but at the end of the day, what can we do to make it so more come out and vote next time around? We need those who know "Shall not be infringed" is not open to interpretation.
Teufelhund
03-12-2013, 10:22
As long as they're not coming door to door for people's guns, I'm willing to be stubbornly and unrealistically optimistic about our chances of defeating them thru legal and political means. I'm with you, I don't think it will ultimately do a damn bit of good (mainly because I think it's all just small parts to a larger, entropic spiral downwards to the end times) but I wouldn't feel I had a right to bitch about it if I just rolled over. :-)
Agreed. I just wanted to point out what an uphill battle it is to fight billionaires who have put in place specific infrastructure to influence all levels of public perception for going on many years now. There are more of us than them here in Colorado. If everyone who is bitching about this injustice gets off their ass and does just a little bit to help, we can turn the tide. If everyone just sits at their computer complaining, we will continue to lose.
ChadAmberg
03-12-2013, 10:23
...a big FUCK YOU to all of those pro-gun, pro-2A Republicans who stayed home last election. That is right... you can try and blame the Dems all you want but it is YOUR damn fault we are in this mess. But we got out and voted, you say? No... with many of the elected officials only receiving about 25% of the vote from eligible voters... that shows about 50% of you stayed home! Oh I'm sure you had a GREAT excuse! "My vote doesn't count", "I had to work", "I didn't have time", "I was out of the state"... I don't want to hear it! Was it worth it? I hope you think so! Well here is your fucking reward! Congrats!!!
Don't forget a big fuck you to the Republican leadership for choosing candidates that make conservative and libertarian voters say fuck it and stay home. While the party of evil makes sure they get candidates the the mindless welfare voters vote reliably, the party of stupid manages to nominate wishy washy candidates that do nothing to really inspire voters. There have been several good folks running for the R nomination in the past that basically get tossed out very quickly, only leaving a compromiser like Romney. I'd vote for just about anyone on this forum over who gets the official nomination for Republican, even Ronin!
I've only voted once in my life for a party of evil member, and that was a protest vote against a "Republican" who was basically running to the left of the D candidate. I'll never do it again, I don't care who it is.
I learned to hate the Democrats in '94. I was just as pissed then as I am now, and I spent many many hours of my life volunteering on campaigns to make the '94 election happen. People need to realize that Democrats as a collective will vote for socialism.
Secondly and most importantly,
There is no one group who will take power; in other words, the majority is based on who wins the moderates. If you are determined to make every candidate a Tea Party or Libertarian candidate, then enjoy the minority. I would much rather have a moderate Republican who will vote with their caucus on important issues like 2A, then have a moderate Democrat who will vote with theirs. If a district is a swing district, it is rather pointless to run a conservative candidate who loses the general election every time. The Republican party purged their moderates over the last 10 years, and now they are in the minority.
If we can't come together with everybody right of center, then this crap will continue to happen and get worse! I know what I am talking about; I worked in Congress, think tanks, state legislatures, and campaigns until I got sick of it.
Also, I share the big FU to all gun owning Democrats...this is not the first time the Democrats have attacked our 2A rights and it won't be the last. They should know better!
Not to burst your bubble. But if i don't well i wouldn't be me.
ANYWAY if you truly believe Mitt would have not broached a gun ban of some sort you're naive.
I will concur the fact Had the Dem's not won as much as they did, their empowerment would not have us where we are today. Couple it with those sensible democrat gun owners. Who for some reason their names slip my mind...................................
Not in the first term. Like Oblowme, mitt would have had to worry about the Re-election bid. Thats the same reason why we didn't see anything during the first term from Oblome.
AK47 Ranger
03-12-2013, 11:33
Period
gnihcraes
03-12-2013, 13:15
We're always preaching to ourselves, we're not the ones that need convincing of how to cure the problem. I doubt any of us here voted for the bad folks currently in office.
Do our best to take a non-believer to the range and educate them. I've done this with two folks in the past year, both are more receptive to who and what we are. One person wants to go shooting all the time, if she could find ammo. Both are Females, and one brought her sister in law the 2nd trip to the range. I'm working with one to get her daughter on the range too. She was present, but didn't want to shoot - no pressure from us, she will want to one day after watching Mom and Aunt shoot.
One lady I started on a Ruger MKII, but after twenty rounds, she wanted badly to shoot the 9mm she recently purchased. She had a good time.
Teach the children, yours or not. Girls especially, they bring emotion to the range and voting booth. Just a couple more years and I'll have another voter in the house. Couple after that, another one.
Take your kid to the range, and one of their friends. (if showing interest, with parent permission) If denied, then no pressure. Move along to the next one. Ask the parent to come along, let them shoot a few rounds.
You get the idea.
searching/gnihcraes
I know everyone is bitter, and wanting very badly to blame somoene. And why not? It feels immediately better to place the fault on Group X.
But it does no good in the long run.
Many of us can now state that we are no longer virgins to the sham that it the political arena in this state; where the lobbyists and the legislators already had made up their minds before introducing the public to the dog-and-pony show that passes for "lawmaking" and justification of paychecks at the Capitol. They surprised the Pro-2A group by showing us what politics is REALLY all about, instead of the way we were taught in school and on tv. Politics is ugly, unfair and mercenary at the best of times.
Instead of the movie "Dave," it is more akin to "First Blood."
So, the Democrats woke a sleeping giant. Instead of turning on each other or finding a scapegoat, let us instead beat them at their own game. Let us become Kingmakers.
We pick both a representative and a member of the Senate to introduce and carry a bill next year (or 2015, depending on if we can replace the anti-2A scoundrels with representatives of our own,) removing this nonsense and restoring our rights. In other words, we're in it for the long haul. We can no longer afford to react. We must act and plan and carry it out, instead of jumpng through the hoops that are set before us. We are NOT trained sheep, we are wolves...and it's time to bring our pack together and have an actual say in our future.
buckshotbarlow
03-12-2013, 13:56
x^2
We're always preaching to ourselves, we're not the ones that need convincing of how to cure the problem. I doubt any of us here voted for the bad folks currently in office. Do our best to take a non-believer to the range and educate them. I've done this with two folks in the past year, both are more receptive to who and what we are. One person wants to go shooting all the time, if she could find ammo. Both are Females, and one brought her sister in law the 2nd trip to the range. I'm working with one to get her daughter on the range too. She was present, but didn't want to shoot - no pressure from us, she will want to one day after watching Mom and Aunt shoot. One lady I started on a Ruger MKII, but after twenty rounds, she wanted badly to shoot the 9mm she recently purchased. She had a good time. Teach the children, yours or not. Girls especially, they bring emotion to the range and voting booth. Just a couple more years and I'll have another voter in the house. Couple after that, another one. Take your kid to the range, and one of their friends. (if showing interest, with parent permission) If denied, then no pressure. Move along to the next one. Ask the parent to come along, let them shoot a few rounds. You get the idea. searching/gnihcraes
Someone is actually making sense. We all like to bitch about the outcome (myself included) but the only way to fight gov't funded nanny laws and propaganda against a liberal society is with a dose of reality. No better dose than some range time actually handling the object that they were taught to fear. Only then will logic and reason take hold. Especially important with our pre-college kids as they haven't yet been exposed to college level liberalism.
Bailey Guns
03-12-2013, 14:50
I learned to hate the Democrats in '94. I was just as pissed then as I am now, and I spent many many hours of my life volunteering on campaigns to make the '94 election happen. People need to realize that Democrats as a collective will vote for socialism.
Secondly and most importantly,
There is no one group who will take power; in other words, the majority is based on who wins the moderates. If you are determined to make every candidate a Tea Party or Libertarian candidate, then enjoy the minority. I would much rather have a moderate Republican who will vote with their caucus on important issues like 2A, then have a moderate Democrat who will vote with theirs. If a district is a swing district, it is rather pointless to run a conservative candidate who loses the general election every time. The Republican party purged their moderates over the last 10 years, and now they are in the minority.
If we can't come together with everybody right of center, then this crap will continue to happen and get worse! I know what I am talking about; I worked in Congress, think tanks, state legislatures, and campaigns until I got sick of it.
Also, I share the big FU to all gun owning Democrats...this is not the first time the Democrats have attacked our 2A rights and it won't be the last. They should know better!
Thank you. That's pretty much the point I've been trying to make for the past year.
hurley842002
03-12-2013, 15:21
You cannot be pro 2a AND Democrat PERIOD! You may be pro firearms, but liking firearms and embracing the 2a are two different things. I've got a friend from all the way back in elementary school, that has been a Democrat for as long as I can remember, he loves guns, including the AR15, but yet he continues to vote for candidates he KNOWS will harm the 2a.
You cannot be pro 2a AND Democrat PERIOD! You may be pro firearms, but liking firearms and embracing the 2a are two different things. I've got a friend from all the way back in elementary school, that has been a Democrat for as long as I can remember, he loves guns, including the AR15, but yet he continues to vote for candidates he KNOWS will harm the 2a.
I honestly don't understand this... Either you are complicit and know what you're doing in voting for those with a D after their name, or you are just too damn stupid to actually look at the facts and see that the Democratic party flat out doesn't uphold the 2nd Amendment. Sorry, hurley, you're friend is either evil or incredibly stupid.
n8tive97
03-12-2013, 15:59
Yup this sucks.....
hurley842002
03-12-2013, 16:07
I honestly don't understand this... Either you are complicit and know what you're doing in voting for those with a D after their name, or you are just too damn stupid to actually look at the facts and see that the Democratic party flat out doesn't uphold the 2nd Amendment. Sorry, hurley, you're friend is either evil or incredibly stupid.
No need to be sorry, we don't hang out much these days. He best resembles the elitists that would prefer to pick and choose who gets to own firearms, he's not anti gun, but he's not pro 2a (or at least his actions say he's not).
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